Do you support patriarchy?

[Borna]

Do you support Patriarchy as a traditional European value or not?

[Smitty]

Do you support Patriarchy as a traditional European value or not?

I think patriarchy is a traditional human value, actually. Men are, by nature, leaders and protectors. Women are, by nature, followers and in need of protection. Of course, there are exceptions, and of course, neither is superior to the other by virtue of these differences. But the differences do exist, they exist naturally, and I see no reason to flout them in the name of so-called equality.

[wvwvw]

Patriarchy is associated with past centuries, rural undeveloped areas, communities cut off from the rest of the world, dictactoric regimes etc. (Dictactorship or democracy starts at home first). Even if we wanted to have patriarchy today I don't think it would be viable in this globalised era.

[Kastrioti1443]

I support it as a traditional value for thousands of years among my people, fundamental value that kept us alive and unique till this day, even though being in the cross roads of empires and civilizations.

[Desaix DeBurgh]

"Primitive society, like many savage societies of our own time, was probably strictly matriarchal. The mother was the head of the family. ...What masculine authority there was resided in the mother's brother. He was the man of the family, and to him the children yielded respect and obedience. Their father, at best, was simply a pleasant friend who fed them and played with them; at worst, he was an indecent loafer who sponged on the mother. They belonged, not to his family, but to their mother's. As they grew up they joined their uncle's group of hunters, not their father's. This matriarchal organization of the primitive tribe, though it finds obvious evidential support in the habits of higher animals, has been questioned by many anthropologists, but of late one of them, Briffault, demonstrated its high probability in three immense volumes [The Mothers: A Study of the Origins of Sentiments and Institutions]. It is hard to escape the cogency of his arguments, for they are based upon an almost overwhelming accumulation of facts. They not only show that, in what we may plausibly assume about the institutions of early man and in what we know positively about the institutions of savages today, the concepts inseparable from a matriarchate color every custom and every idea: they show also that those primeval concepts still condition our own ways of thinking and doing things, so that "the societal characters of the human mind" all seem to go back "to the functions of the female and not to those of the male." Thus it appears that man, in his remote infancy, was by no means the lord of creation that he has since become."

- Robert Briffault (anthropologist)

[Atvend]

Who wouldn't support teh glorious patriarchy? The opportunity to oppress wimminz from all over the world alone is worth the admission cost. The weekly meetings on the secret lair are just an added benefit.

[Smitty]

Who wouldn't support teh glorious patriarchy? The opportunity to oppress wimminz from all over the world alone is worth the admission cost. The weekly meetings on the secret lair are just an added benefit.

Ah, yes. This is what we're after:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVGcbaoRtqk

[Bezprym]

http://33.media.tumblr.com/741d9a8ededb509e9d285f08a5c03c2c/tumblr_inline_nrsvawhpB61r1jtxd_500.gif

[Jarla87]

Yes I absolutely Support it. Despite of Religion it is also only natural for men being the head of the home. I would not want it else. Have you ever thought that men inherit also a greater will to sacrifice themselves than women?
Sure there are women who would certainly die for their own children, maybe for their husband or Close Family members, but sacrificial love in a fullest sence can only be understood and practized by men. There is a reason why it is demanded in the Bible from men to love their wives as Christ loves the Church (He died for it) but it is in no place demanded that the wives would die for their husbands.
For centuries in Situation of danger when People needed to be saved it was said: "Women and Children first!"

Despite of that women are not suitable for leading roles. -> Lack on objectiveness and reason.
Just read all the Feminist stuff, unbelievable that such women came to power and influenced the mindset of the People in such a terrible way.

[Linebacker]

It is a traditional value,but is has no place in the future of humanity any more.

We can see it as an old bygone cultural trait for the history books.

[Cloudberry]

No.

[Casandrinos]

Yes , with all my heart.

We will restore it. Starting from this forum.

[Hoxhaism]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xKPAEDCuXxRepO/giphy.gif

[Grenzland]

Neutral.

Let the good come up, no matter who it is.

There is no "secret intern rule for all men" to avoid that women come up and there is no need of fear for men having concurrence from women.

[Raikaswinþs]

it isn´t real peepz. There is no such thing as patriarchy. There´s the social arrangements of complex human societies which follow biology to an extent but are also heavily dictated by the geopgraphy and politics of where such societies are settled. There is no unspoken conspiracy to "keep women down". Even in heavily religious societies like Saudi Arabia or the American Bible Belt, the social pact (which is codified in their sacred texts) which has very specific roles designed for the sexes are far from being what ideologues of Social Studies laboratories in western universities define as "The Patriarchy".

Patriarchal? yes, for sure. "The Patriarchy" hhmmm... nope

[Root]

Yes.




Otherwise the society would be turned into a mess

http://brutalmen.ru/public/articles/360_500//5564356e37293.png

http://womanadvice.ru/sites/default/files/mainimage200x200/podkabluchnik.jpg.crop_display.jpg


a man should be a man instead of a woman, a man should be strong and should be able to protect his family

[Rethel]

Do you support Patriarchy as a traditional European value or not?

Naturally...

[Rethel]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xKPAEDCuXxRepO/giphy.gif

A second later...

https://67.media.tumblr.com/d7296b7dac7187dcfa80e56021035c96/tumblr_inline_nkxsi2VeDq1t16ovi.gif

[Seya]

leaders are naturally selected..u can't support a leader that can't impose himself

[Hoxhaism]

A second later...

https://67.media.tumblr.com/d7296b7dac7187dcfa80e56021035c96/tumblr_inline_nkxsi2VeDq1t16ovi.gif

more accurate

http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/woman-hitting-guy-gif-anne-hathaway-jake-gyllenhaal-love-and-other-drugs.gif

[Danaan]

I can't support something that doesn't exist.

[Rethel]

more accurate

:picard2:

Are you a lesbian or another psycho?

[Hoxhaism]

:picard2:

Are you a lesbian?

:picard1:



No.

[Rethel]

:picard1:



No.

Then psycho...

[Casandrinos]

leaders are naturally selected..u can't support a leader that can't impose himself

Patriarchy is God given and natural.

[Hoxhaism]

Then psycho...

http://31.media.tumblr.com/c9149ecfae508b93cc4ce84654113f77/tumblr_mxecujkfaW1t4088no1_500.gif

[Rethel]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/c9149ecfae508b93cc4ce84654113f77/tumblr_mxecujkfaW1t4088no1_500.gif

You can dream only about it... :laugh:

[Seya]

Patriarchy is God given and natural.

http://womanadvice.ru/sites/default/files/mainimage200x200/podkabluchnik.jpg.crop_display.jpg
it doesn't seem so... instead it's something that should be earned

[Hoxhaism]

You can dream only about it... :laugh:

https://68.media.tumblr.com/64390551a60e2e1d6f8ca1a7daff8b4f/tumblr_ncqyzsUIUg1s609pno1_500.gif

[Grenzland]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/c9149ecfae508b93cc4ce84654113f77/tumblr_mxecujkfaW1t4088no1_500.gif

http://68.media.tumblr.com/f34807c054b0141fd489bd8be4ed3815/tumblr_od6frjwj0M1r71yuro1_1280.jpg

Nothing to do with this "discussion". Just wanted to be real cool and answer with pictures.

[Casandrinos]

http://womanadvice.ru/sites/default/files/mainimage200x200/podkabluchnik.jpg.crop_display.jpg
it doesn't seem so... instead it's something that should be earned

What's the picture suppose to mean? That women rule? :icon_lol:

The fact that you want it to be earned shows that it should have never been abolished. But i can agree that a lot of men are pussified nowadays.Guess why...

[Rethel]

https://68.media.tumblr.com/64390551a60e2e1d6f8ca1a7daff8b4f/tumblr_ncqyzsUIUg1s609pno1_500.gif

Do not worry... maybe finally you will find
some freak, who'll like to be beaten by you :laugh:

[Seya]

What's the picture suppose to mean? That women rule? :icon_lol:

The fact that you want it to be earned shows that it should have never been abolished. But i can agree that a lot of men are pussified nowadays.Guess why...

The picture shows that men can be ruled and that leadership is not a gift from God. this is what the reality shows us..is not me wanting it or not. if u wanna know my opinion on this..ok..i don't like the situation at all...but it's real!

[GoneWithTheWind]

The picture shows that men can be ruled and that leadership is not a gift from God. this is what the reality shows us..is not me wanting it or not. if u wanna know my opinion on this..ok..i don't like the situation at all...but it's real!

You like to be ruled or rule?

[Casandrinos]

The picture shows that men can be ruled and that leadership is not a gift from God. this is what the reality shows us..is not me wanting it or not. if u wanna know my opinion on this..ok..i don't like the situation a...but it's real!

Maybe its the men that distant themselves from God that face this reality.

Men "ruling" over women isn't about proving themselves to you though. You have to work on yourself too.

[Rethel]

The picture shows that men can be ruled and that leadership is not a gift from God. this is what the reality shows us..is not me wanting it or not. if u wanna know my opinion on this..ok..i don't like the situation at all...but it's real!

Is real, becasue is artificial. 100 years of brainwashing, coeducation,
forcing profeministic laws, pars and many different affirmative actions
resulted by this as it is. And it was not made by women, but by men,
who had different goals in that. Women, if would be able to do it on
their own, they would do this hundrets of years ago, or at least in
half of societies... But they never ever anywhere did not gain the
power for themselves. If men do not aloow it - it is not happening.

And now, explain to Hoaxsim, why do she should not like it either :laugh:

[Seya]

You like to be ruled or rule?


Maybe its the men that distant themselves from God that face this reality.

Men "ruling" over women isn't about proving themselves to you though. You have to work on yourself too.

Is real, becasue is artificial. 100 years of brainwashing, coeducation,
forcing profeministic laws, pars and many different affirmative actions
resulted by this as it is. And it was not made by women, but by men,
who had different goals in that. Women, if would be able to do it on
their own, they would do this hundrets of years ago, or at least in
half of societies... But they never ever anywhere did not gain the
power for themselves. If men do not aloow it - it is not happening.

And now, explain to Hoaxsim, why do she should not like it either :laugh:
men or women are not pets to be owned...it should be a mutual respect but i do not agree with the equality between sexes. men and women are not equal but different. nowadays the tendency is not going towards equality but towards switching gender roles. nobody should prove anything to anybody cose this is not a war...just stop fighting against your nature. this should be enough...

[GoneWithTheWind]

men or women are not pets to be owned...it should be a mutual respect but i do not agree with the equality between sexes. men and women are not equal but different. nowadays the tendency is not going towards equality but towards switching gender roles. nobody should prove anything to anybody cose this is not a war...just stop fighting against your nature. this should be enough...

No ones gonna take my soul away

[Seya]

No ones gonna take my soul away

that's a message for God

[GoneWithTheWind]

that's a message for God

You Christian?

[Seya]

You Christian?

if you wish...

[GoneWithTheWind]

if you wish...

What do you wish?

[Seya]

What do you wish?

to free my mind of constraints...

[GoneWithTheWind]

to free my mind of constraints...

Same. How is it going so far?

[Seya]

Same. How is it going so far?

amazing

[GoneWithTheWind]

amazing

Keep it up

[Ultra]

Patriarchy is the natural order of things for mankind. This is why all feminist/matriarchal societies are doomed in the long run. You can't win vs mother nature. :icon_lol:

[Hoxhaism]

Patriarchy is the natural order of things for mankind. This is why all feminist/matriarchal societies are doomed in the long run. You can't win vs mother nature. :icon_lol:

Is that why Sweden, with a very feministic society, is named one of the worlds happiest countries?

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/geeg45edkjh/10-australia/

All other countries named on that list too are advanced in women's rights.

Not to mention most competitive european economies, all generally advances in women's rights.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/09/the-top-10-most-competitive-economies-in-europe/

Now lets look at the most patriarchical nations in the world:

http://www.wonderslist.com/10-worst-countries-for-women/

Notice how violent, poor, and the fact that people are risking their lives everyday just to leave these nations.
you call it "nature", but facts have proven otherwise.

[Profileid]

Yes. But only from worthy men.
The Bible states men should be willing to lay down their lives for their women.

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her-Ephesians 5:25

Leadership comes with a price. Something a lot of the bitter lonely fags on here fail to understand. You don't get to call the shots without taking responsibility for it.

[Dandelion]

Yes. But only from worthy men.
The Bible states men should be willing to lay down their lives for their women.
-Ephesians 5:25

Leadership comes with a price. Something a lot of the bitter lonely fags on here fail to understand. You don't get to call the shots without taking responsibility for it.

For pussy 'males' you are very matriarchal in fact.

[Profileid]

For pussy 'males' you are very matriarchal in fact.

Yeah m8. Look how it was in the old times, the kings rode into battle. And risked not just glory,but death as well! The dudes bitching about feminism on here and in general are total pussybitches and don't have what it takes to support a wife/children or lead society.
They may say they want patriarchy,but they're more than happy to instead play video games and jerk off instead of getting a job.

[Dandelion]

Yes.




Otherwise the society would be turned into a mess

http://brutalmen.ru/public/articles/360_500//5564356e37293.png

http://womanadvice.ru/sites/default/files/mainimage200x200/podkabluchnik.jpg.crop_display.jpg


a man should be a man instead of a woman, a man should be strong and should be able to protect his family


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrvMzk1ozE4

[Ultra]

Is that why Sweden, with a very feministic society, is named one of the worlds happiest countries?

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/geeg45edkjh/10-australia/

All other countries named on that list too are advanced in women's rights.

Not to mention most competitive european economies, all generally advances in women's rights.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/09/the-top-10-most-competitive-economies-in-europe/

Now lets look at the most patriarchical nations in the world:

http://www.wonderslist.com/10-worst-countries-for-women/

Notice how violent, poor, and the fact that people are risking their lives everyday just to leave these nations.
you call it "nature", but facts have proven otherwise.
Swedes the most happy? You can shove those "statistics" up your bum. Anyway happiness and economical strength is aside of my point. What really happens with feminism is that whatever tribe embraces it just gets wiped out and replaced by another, due to low birthrates. That is just inevitable. Feminism will simply not survive to the end of this century. :bow00001:

[Magnolia]

Of course not.
The absence of personal freedom and responsibility should be a personal choice.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I support meritocracy.

[Hoxhaism]

Swedes the most happy? You can shove those "statistics" up your bum. Anyway happiness and economical strength is aside of my point. What really happens with feminism is that whatever tribe embraces it just gets wiped out and replaced by another, due to low birthrates. That is just inevitable. Feminism will simply not survive to the end of this century. :bow00001:

lol.

[Grishnack]

I think "Patriarchy" is a made-up word created by lunatic feminists who think that their failure in life is not their fault.
Women and men are not alike. Equal in value? Of course! Should they be equal in oportunities? Of course! But please don't tell me it's "Patriarchy" when you can't find women working on a fucking oil rig in the middle of the Arctic Ocean. I don't believe in Patriarchy. I think women have a lot more worse problems than "mansplaining". In Islamic countries, they are at fault for being raped and not a single feminist bats an eye, thinking it is racist to say a word against Muslims. It's all bullshit. Men and women are equal and should always be equal. But to each their own.

[Rethel]

Is that why Sweden, with a very feministic society, is named one of the worlds happiest countries?


Hapinness is not a good measurment.

For example, drug addicted person is very happy when is druged.
Drunkard is very happy when he is drunk.
Member of a cult is very happy also, not realizing, that is brainwashed.
Guy, who like to be an often guest in brothel is usually very happy also.

So, the thing, that swedish idiots are happy, it doesn;t mean, that the
Country is happy - the more, that will surrvived in such form for ever.

When you will demoralized people, brainwashed them, give them a lot
of free sex, alcohol, and other "good things" they will probably think,
that they are happy, especially, when they are threatend and can't
have a different opinion, and when they are not aware, what they
had missed. Majority of people are idiots, so it is easy to make them
happy - but to turn it back - it is very hard. It is why Sweden must
fall in the near future. Ungodliness is always punished, even by itself.

Ceterum censeo Meccam delendam esse!

[Hoxhaism]

Hapinness is not a good measurment.

For example, drug addicted person is very happy when is druged.
Drunkard is very happy when he is drunk.
Member of a cult is very happy also, not realizing, that is brainwashed.
Guy, who like to be an often guest in brothel is usually very happy also.

So, the thing, that swedish idiots are happy, it doesn;t mean, that the
Country is happy - the more, that willsurrvived in such form for ever.

When you will demoralized people, brainwashed them, give them a lot
of free sex, alcohol, and other "good things" they will probably think,
that they are happy, especially, when they are threatend and can't
have a different opinion, and when they are not aware, what they
had missed. Majority of people are idiots, so it is easy to make them
happy - but to turn it back - it is very hard. It is why Sweden must
fall in the near future. Ungodliness is always punished, even by itself.

Ceterum censeo Meccam delendam esse!

What about the biggest economies in europe being advanced in women's rights?

What about the poorest, most dangerous countries being the mainly patriarchal ones?

[Rethel]

What about the biggest economies in europe being advanced in women's rights?

They were firstly advamnced, and then became feminized, and now they are dying.


What about the poorest, most dangerous countries being the mainly patriarchal ones?

Oh come on, patriarchy it is not everything.
For example the biggest difference is in religion.

Islam is a shit religion, feminine in addition, and is
ruled by machos and faggots. Result must be bad.

If Europe would not be Christian, we wouldnt be so advansed.
Look at chinese and Jews, they are more inteligent, but they
did nothing for themsleves and for others comparing to us.

Chinese btw, are/have also very feminine culture, and Jews,
are similar mixture of feminine features with masculine ruling,
as Muslims. They are 30 points more inteligent than Muslims
but they did almost as well as Muslims. Why? Becasue rules
are bad. And as you see, even in this very feminine cultures
patriarchy came over on the top - becasue it is natural thing.
But mens in feminine clothing can do, and do, terribly...

Indoeuropeans had always different culture, and with Christianiry
made a good mix of ideas, which conquered the World, and created
modern civilisation - IEs were the most patriarchal culture ever, but
was not based on feminine or among feminine features, so was good,
and very beneficial for women also, especially after christianization.

Furthermore I consider that Mecca must be destroyed!

[Aviator]

Is that why Sweden, with a very feministic society, is named one of the worlds happiest countries?

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/geeg45edkjh/10-australia/

All other countries named on that list too are advanced in women's rights.

Not to mention most competitive european economies, all generally advances in women's rights.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/09/the-top-10-most-competitive-economies-in-europe/

Now lets look at the most patriarchical nations in the world:

http://www.wonderslist.com/10-worst-countries-for-women/

Notice how violent, poor, and the fact that people are risking their lives everyday just to leave these nations.
you call it "nature", but facts have proven otherwise.

To be fair, things like Feminism are only explored once a society is prosperous enough to spend time on such luxuries. It's not as though the Western countries became the world's most advanced and powerful nations under Feminism or similar ideologies.

[Grenzland]

Maybe some information from the real world. Bigger companies usually are not even able to hire for example female atom physics with a doctor degree. There are maybe 20 of them. On EARTH!

Stop studying bullshit, maybe that will help feminists.

[Ziveth]

Do you support Patriarchy as a traditional European value or not?

No, not much. I think men and women should be considered equal. Patriarchy belongs more to the past centuries than today.

[Sekarotuinen]

I support God's natural roles for the sexes, but that certainly does not look like traditional male-dominated patriarchies like we had historically almost everywhere.

[Rethel]

I support God's natural roles (...) we had historically almost everywhere.

Interesting, that you see here a contradiction... :picard1:

[Bobby Martnen]

Yes, I do.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I can't see how anything other than a form of patriarchy can work. Women are rarely charismatic and society revolves around charismatic people.

[Rethel]

Yes, I do.

No you don;t. See your posts in genealogical thread.

[Megadorian]

The most skilled/experienced individuals should lead ahead, male or female is totally unimportant

[The Lawspeaker]

Yes.




Otherwise the society would be turned into a mess

http://brutalmen.ru/public/articles/360_500//5564356e37293.png

http://womanadvice.ru/sites/default/files/mainimage200x200/podkabluchnik.jpg.crop_display.jpg



Pretty much and we can see this today.

[Podlachian]

Yes.

[RenaRyuguu]

Yes I do