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Szegedist
07-24-2015, 12:07 PM
The very first time Slovakia became a state was when Hitler created the First Slovak Republic in 1939, under the fascist leadership of Jozef Tiso.

Since then, this state has shown nothing but intolerance, chauvinism and hatred towards others, be it Germans, Hungarians, Roma, Rusyns, Slovjaks, Jews and various other minorities. Even nowadays they continue to elect real neonazis (not "neonazis" like UKIP or Jobbik) to their parliament.

It is shocking that Hitler's legacy is still alive in Europe.

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/452085499-marian-kotleba-once-a-chief-of-the-slovak-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QUEEQnZipqNH3EkzMhHSLEjd0xLk q2rrxFwHNMKeHF8Q

http://tmp.aktualne.centrum.sk/soumar/img/1021/31/10213187-slovenska-pospolitost.jpg

http://www.romea.cz/aaa/img.php?src=/img_upload/03ec66ac77713bab242255f6194ad3ff/bratislava-nackove.jpg&w=630


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgHyF8-d_hc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9RraD-T2y0

Stears
07-24-2015, 12:55 PM
The crypto-slovak user antimage will be angry..........

mikhail
07-24-2015, 04:36 PM
Slovaks = confused Czechs, there's no reason why that place should exist.

I hear Czechs write on their resumes that they speak Slovak since Slovak is just a copy of the Czech language.

Slovakia is indeed an artificial creation, born from foreign ideology rather than real nationhood.

Szegedist
07-24-2015, 04:42 PM
Slovaks = confused Czechs, there's no reason why that place should exist.
Historically, the Slovaks were never united or had a "Slovak identity". They were just some communities scattered around the mountains, speaking many different dialects.



Slovakia is indeed an artificial creation, born from foreign ideology rather than real nationhood.
Yes, and actually it was the Czechs and Austrians that made a lot of propaganda and fed it to the people what is today Slovakia.

mikhail
07-24-2015, 04:53 PM
Yes, and actually it was the Czechs and Austrians that made a lot of propaganda and fed it to the people what is today Slovakia.

Yes, to weaken the Hungarian revolution in 1848 and create opponents to the independence movement, that's right.

glass
07-24-2015, 04:54 PM
I would not call Slovakia Hitler's creation. But Slovaks is indeed one artificialy created eastern european ethnicities in late 19 - 20 century. Just like ukrainians, latvians, belarussians and so on.

Antimage
07-24-2015, 04:57 PM
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Antimage
07-24-2015, 04:58 PM
Yes, to weaken the Hungarian revolution in 1848 and create opponents to the independence movement, that's right.

Actually a lot of slovaks supported hungarian revolution of 1848. They started to become anti-hungarian when panslavism became popular

Antimage
07-24-2015, 05:03 PM
I would not call Slovakia Hitler's creation. But Slovaks is indeed one artificialy created eastern european ethnicities in late 19 - 20 century. Just like ukrainians, latvians, belarussians and so on.

what are they then? czech?

glass
07-25-2015, 07:01 AM
what are they then? czech?
Slovaks are now slovaks. But they would have been czech if their slovak 'identity' would not have been invented 100-150 years ago.

RandoBloom
07-25-2015, 07:03 AM
Its understandable considering what they people went trough

Mingle
05-29-2017, 06:09 AM
I would not call Slovakia Hitler's creation. But Slovaks is indeed one artificialy created eastern european ethnicities in late 19 - 20 century. Just like ukrainians, latvians, belarussians and so on.

Latvians? How? Latvians are of Latgalian descent. Or are Latgalians also an artificial thing? The name of Latvia and Lithuania sound very similar in some languages (e.g. Litva and Lotva in Polish) so maybe Latgalians and Lithuanians were the same people, but I haven't heard anyone make this claim. When and how did the split start if Latvians are a recently created ethnicity?

Mingle
05-29-2017, 06:14 AM
Slovaks = confused Czechs, there's no reason why that place should exist.

I hear Czechs write on their resumes that they speak Slovak since Slovak is just a copy of the Czech language.

Slovakia is indeed an artificial creation, born from foreign ideology rather than real nationhood.

Slovaks are the continuity of Moravians whereas Czechs are the continuity of Bohemians (the Moravia region of CR is just a regional designation not an ethnic/tribal one).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravians_(tribe)


The first known mention of the Moravians was in the Annales Regni Francorum in 822 AD. The tribe was located by the Bavarian Geographer (as Marharii) between the tribe of the Bohemians and the tribe of the Bulgarians. In the 9th century Moravians gain control over neighbouring Nitra and founded the realm of Great Moravia, ruled by the Mojmír dynasty until the 10th century. After the breakup of the Moravian realm the Moravian tribe was divided between the Duchy of Bohemia and Principality of Hungary. The western Moravians were assimilated by the Czechs and presently identify as Czechs (see Moravians (ethnic group)). The modern nation of the Slovaks was formed out of the eastern part of the Moravian tribe within the Kingdom of Hungary.[3]

Mingle
05-29-2017, 06:17 AM
Historically, the Slovaks were never united or had a "Slovak identity". They were just some communities scattered around the mountains, speaking many different dialects.


Yes, and actually it was the Czechs and Austrians that made a lot of propaganda and fed it to the people what is today Slovakia.

They had the Moravian identity before, did they not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravians_(tribe)

It was described by foreign sources as a distinct tribe.