Best Admixture Calculator for Mixed Europeans?

[Dylan]

I'm half French, a quarter Irish, and a quarter Italian (roughly half Northern Euro and half Southern Euro)

Which calculators tend to work best for people who are a mixture of north in south euro?

[Maximilian]

The oracle from MDLP World22 is good, especially if your northern component is eastern shifted.

Also EUtest, EUtest V2/K15, and K13 from Eurogenes.

[de Burgh II]

The oracle from MDLP World22 is good, especially if your northern component is eastern shifted.

Also EUtest, EUtest V2/K15, and K13 from Eurogenes.

I would agree upon the calculators in bold especially with MDLP k23b for population approximations via oracle. Eurogenes is especially usually for its break downs as well as its population approximations.

[Gooding]

I would agree upon the calculators in bold especially with MDLP k23b for population approximations via oracle. Eurogenes is especially usually for its break downs as well as its population approximations.
I agree with my countryman. I find that Dodecad World 9 is fairly decent in my case in identifying recent as well as deeper admixtures.

Gedmatch.Com

World9 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 72.75
2 Southern 12.78
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 11.87
4 South_Asian 1.14
5 Amerindian 1.06


Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
9 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mixed_Germanic @ 1.422766
2 Dutch @ 2.214811
3 German @ 2.698524
4 CEU30 @ 3.097475
5 Cornwall @ 3.468958
6 Kent @ 3.658287
7 British @ 3.781049
8 British_Isles @ 4.831080
9 Argyll @ 5.530697
10 Irish @ 5.735110
11 Hungarians @ 5.807720
12 Orcadian @ 5.887471
13 Orkney @ 6.368193
14 French @ 6.786506
15 Ukranians @ 7.041228
16 French @ 7.789320
17 Polish @ 7.842126
18 Belorussian @ 9.843278
19 Norwegian @ 10.448243
20 Swedish @ 10.803402

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mixed_Germanic +50% Mixed_Germanic @ 1.422766


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% French +25% Hungarians @ 1.163843


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lithuanian + North_Italian + CEU30 + CEU30 @ 1.000845
2 French + Orcadian + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.021241
3 Lithuanian + N_Italian + CEU30 + Cornwall @ 1.026601
4 Lithuanian + N_Italian + CEU30 + CEU30 @ 1.026649
5 French + Hungarians + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.044555
6 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 1.049708
7 French + Orcadian + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.064605
8 Mixed_Germanic + Lithuanian + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 1.073299
9 Swedish + N_Italian + Orcadian + Argyll @ 1.081171
10 Lithuanian + North_Italian + CEU30 + Cornwall @ 1.083937
11 Irish + French + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 1.086894
12 Lithuanian + N_Italian + CEU30 + Kent @ 1.101309
13 Dutch + Lithuanian + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 1.102219
14 North_Italian + CEU30 + CEU30 + Lithuanians @ 1.103790
15 British + Lithuanian + N_Italian + CEU30 @ 1.106678
16 German + Lithuanian + North_Italian + CEU30 @ 1.108355
17 Lithuanian + North_Italian + CEU30 + Argyll @ 1.110575
18 Mixed_Germanic + Lithuanian + North_Italian + Argyll @ 1.116713
19 Irish + French + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.117991
20 French + Orcadian + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 1.122811

Done.

Elapsed time 1.1027 seconds.
Neither the North Italians nor the Spanish Cantabrians need worry that I'll start identifying as one of them. I'm obviously Anglo- American. I do find it interesting that on gedmatch I get some Spanish and Italian readings. Total respect to you guys. :thumb001:
Gedmatch.Com


MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 34.73
2 European_Early_Farmers 29.29
3 Caucasian 21.06
4 Ancestral_Altaic 6.43
5 South_Central_Asian 4.37
6 Near_East 1.62
7 South_Indian 1.17


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Belgian @ 3.472064
2 English_Kent_GBR @ 3.531396
3 English_Cornwall_GBR @ 3.856439
4 English @ 3.901693
5 Frisian @ 4.227165
6 Irish @ 4.488826
7 CEU @ 4.715080
8 British @ 4.880589
9 Welsh @ 4.936996
10 North_European @ 4.997134
11 German-Volga @ 6.288247
12 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 6.830882
13 Dutch @ 7.016572
14 South_German @ 7.044467
15 Orcadian @ 7.077938
16 Norwegian_West @ 8.783274
17 French @ 9.238638
18 Icelandic @ 9.311042
19 Norwegian_East @ 9.331839
20 Dane @ 10.730737

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belgian +50% English_Cornwall_GBR @ 2.647670


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% English_Cornwall_GBR +25% English_Kent_GBR +25% German-Volga @ 2.392871


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belgian + English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Cornwall_GBR + German-Volga @ 2.294832
2 English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + German-Volga @ 2.381248
3 Belgian + English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + German-Volga @ 2.386253
4 English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + German-Volga @ 2.392871
5 English_Cornwall_GBR + Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_West + Swede_Saami @ 2.440287
6 English_Cornwall_GBR + Norwegian_West + Spanish_Baleares_IBS + Swede_Saami @ 2.445523
7 Frisian + Norwegian_West + Spanish_Baleares_IBS + Swede_Saami @ 2.447480
8 Belgian + British + English_Cornwall_GBR + German-Volga @ 2.459580
9 Belgian + Norwegian_West + Spanish_Baleares_IBS + Swede_Saami @ 2.464096
10 English_Kent_GBR + Norwegian_West + Spanish_Baleares_IBS + Swede_Saami @ 2.466860
11 British + Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_West + Swede_Saami @ 2.470905
12 Italian_Piedmont + Norwegian_West + Orcadian + Swede @ 2.476393
13 English_Kent_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + German-Volga @ 2.481383
14 Belgian + British + Spanish_Baleares_IBS + Swede_Saami @ 2.481659
15 British + Italian_Piedmont + Norwegian_West + Norwegian_West @ 2.495657
16 Belgian + French + French + Swede_Saami @ 2.506389
17 English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Cornwall_GBR + German-Volga @ 2.509017
18 Belgian + English_Cornwall_GBR + German-Volga + Welsh @ 2.525695
19 English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Cornwall_GBR + Frisian + German-Volga @ 2.528988
20 British + English_Cornwall_GBR + Italian_North + Norwegian_West @ 2.536273

Done.

Elapsed time 106.6250 seconds.

[de Burgh II]

I agree with my countryman. I find that Dodecad World 9 is fairly decent in my case in identifying recent as well as deeper admixtures.

Gedmatch.Com

World9 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 72.75
2 Southern 12.78
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 11.87
4 South_Asian 1.14
5 Amerindian 1.06


Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
9 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mixed_Germanic @ 1.422766
2 Dutch @ 2.214811
3 German @ 2.698524
4 CEU30 @ 3.097475
5 Cornwall @ 3.468958
6 Kent @ 3.658287
7 British @ 3.781049
8 British_Isles @ 4.831080
9 Argyll @ 5.530697
10 Irish @ 5.735110
11 Hungarians @ 5.807720
12 Orcadian @ 5.887471
13 Orkney @ 6.368193
14 French @ 6.786506
15 Ukranians @ 7.041228
16 French @ 7.789320
17 Polish @ 7.842126
18 Belorussian @ 9.843278
19 Norwegian @ 10.448243
20 Swedish @ 10.803402

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mixed_Germanic +50% Mixed_Germanic @ 1.422766


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% French +25% Hungarians @ 1.163843


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lithuanian + North_Italian + CEU30 + CEU30 @ 1.000845
2 French + Orcadian + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.021241
3 Lithuanian + N_Italian + CEU30 + Cornwall @ 1.026601
4 Lithuanian + N_Italian + CEU30 + CEU30 @ 1.026649
5 French + Hungarians + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.044555
6 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 1.049708
7 French + Orcadian + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.064605
8 Mixed_Germanic + Lithuanian + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 1.073299
9 Swedish + N_Italian + Orcadian + Argyll @ 1.081171
10 Lithuanian + North_Italian + CEU30 + Cornwall @ 1.083937
11 Irish + French + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 1.086894
12 Lithuanian + N_Italian + CEU30 + Kent @ 1.101309
13 Dutch + Lithuanian + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 1.102219
14 North_Italian + CEU30 + CEU30 + Lithuanians @ 1.103790
15 British + Lithuanian + N_Italian + CEU30 @ 1.106678
16 German + Lithuanian + North_Italian + CEU30 @ 1.108355
17 Lithuanian + North_Italian + CEU30 + Argyll @ 1.110575
18 Mixed_Germanic + Lithuanian + North_Italian + Argyll @ 1.116713
19 Irish + French + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.117991
20 French + Orcadian + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 1.122811

Done.

Elapsed time 1.1027 seconds.
Neither the North Italians nor the Spanish Cantabrians need worry that I'll start identifying as one of them. I'm obviously Anglo- American. I do find it interesting that on gedmatch I get some Spanish and Italian readings. Total respect to you guys. :thumb001:

I would say its so and so... the validity of the other calculators have me plot closest with Southern English populations samples whereas "Mixed_Germanic" is somewhat vague in foresight... I guess they substitute Southwest Frenchies with "North Italian" and "Iberian (Baleares) ancestry" as reference populations...

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 71.77
2 Southern 14.63
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 11.52
4 Amerindian 1.37


Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
9 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mixed_Germanic @ 2.919389
2 Dutch @ 4.172303
3 German @ 4.592510
4 French @ 4.724650
5 Cornwall @ 4.980955
6 CEU30 @ 5.007759
7 Kent @ 5.158694
8 Hungarians @ 5.236377
9 British @ 5.433869
10 French @ 5.722174
11 British_Isles @ 6.430930
12 Argyll @ 7.579415
13 Irish @ 7.610809
14 Orcadian @ 7.741333
15 Orkney @ 8.149456
16 Ukranians @ 8.825372
17 Polish @ 9.910667
18 Belorussian @ 11.910228
19 Norwegian @ 12.179435
20 Swedish @ 12.671297

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German +50% French @ 1.168042


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% German +25% Argyll +25% Baleares @ 1.118714


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 N_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Cornwall @ 1.062210
2 North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Kent @ 1.075540
3 North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + CEU30 @ 1.078974
4 German + North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.079862
5 N_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Kent @ 1.081249
6 Irish + North_Italian + Orcadian + CEU30 @ 1.086143
7 Irish + North_Italian + Orcadian + Kent @ 1.087027
8 German + North_Italian + Orcadian + Orkney @ 1.093785
9 German + North_Italian + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.102986
10 N_Italian + Orcadian + Orkney + Kent @ 1.109587
11 Irish + N_Italian + Orcadian + Cornwall @ 1.111386
12 German + German + Argyll + Baleares @ 1.118714
13 British + North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.119385
14 British_Isles + N_Italian + Orcadian + Kent @ 1.120519
15 North_Italian + Orcadian + CEU30 + Orkney @ 1.120704
16 British_Isles + North_Italian + Orcadian + Argyll @ 1.123772
17 French + North_Italian + Orcadian + Lithuanians @ 1.126059
18 N_Italian + Orcadian + Orkney + Cornwall @ 1.126382
19 North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Cornwall @ 1.126848
20 Irish + North_Italian + CEU30 + Orkney @ 1.128695