Where are your haplogroups (subclade or otherwise) genetically indigenous to?

[Anglojew]

Where are you genetically indigenous to?

Where are your haplogroup subclades indigenous to?

Where did your subclade originate? Where are the majority of todays holders of that subclade?

For instance, it's throught that Q1b originated in Central Asia, while U5 is Mesolithic European.

[Figaro]

N1b1b according to 23andme...N1b1a2 estimated by that jameslick site.

I think it's highest concentration is found in the Middle East.

Y-DNA is R1a1a...R1a is quite Eurasian...my subclade is mostly eastern euro.

[oh-nahhh]

My Y-dna is E1b1o1l1a common in West Africa.

And my m-dna is T1r1o1l1l1o1l1o1l common in Trollmark.

[Anglojew]

N1b1b according to 23andme...N1b1a2 estimated by that jameslick site.

I think it's highest concentration is found in the Middle East.

Y-DNA is R1a1a...R1a is quite Eurasian...my subclade is mostly eastern euro.

I hadn't heard of jameslick but will check it out.

It's interesting N1b is common in the ME. Do you know much about it's migration to Europe (time period etc)?

[Anglojew]

My Y-dna is E1b1o1l1a common in West Africa.

And my m-dna is T1r1o1l1l1o1l1o1l common in Trollmark.

E1b is an interesting haplogroup for a Northern European. Einstein was E1b1b1b2 and Hitler was E1b1b1.

[Kamal900]

My mtDNA is U3, and as far as i know, the haplogroup is considered to be indigenous in the Levant where it's mostly commonly found among the Iraqi Jews and etc(the study from Longbowman). Most of my closest maternal relatives are living in Europe(especially Germany) with one Ashkenazi rabbi from Israel. My haplogroup originated over 12,000 years ago, and it's characterized by the early neolithic farmers that entered the Balkans from Wes Asia.

[wvwvw]

My dad has a proto-Germanic haplogroup uncommon not just in Greece but in the whole Balkans, now beat that ;)

[wvwvw]

Anglojew's ydna is uncommon too though

[Anglojew]

My mtDNA is U3, and as far as i know, the haplogroup is considered to be indigenous in the Levant where it's mostly commonly found among the Iraqi Jews and etc(the study from Longbowman). Most of my closest maternal relatives are living in Europe(especially Germany) with one Ashkenazi rabbi from Israel. My haplogroup originated over 12,000 years ago, and it's characterized by the early neolithic farmers that entered the Balkans from Wes Asia.

Interesting, what about your YDNA?

[Anglojew]

My dad has a proto-Germanic haplogroup uncommon not just in Greece but in the whole Balkans, now beat that ;)

R or I?

[Anglojew]

Anglojew's ydna is uncommon too though

Yes. Most indigenous Central Asians made their way to Europe or South Asia (with the Iranid migrations).

[wvwvw]

R or I?

This

http://www.norwaydna.no/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Haplogroup-R1b-U106-Eupedia.gif

[Longbowman]

They're on my profile. YDNA is indigenous Levantine because I am a troo Judaean, even if it is a little rare these days.

My MTDNA is typical for Ashkenazi Jews and dates to North Italy - but my maternal line is not Ashkenazic Jewish, but rather, Asian Jewish. Mystery! Of course it is probable some Ashkenazi woman moved to Iraq or India a few centuries ago.

[Kamal900]

Interesting, what about your YDNA?

I haven't bought the kit for the Y-DNA kit yet, but hopefully i will buy it soon.

[Kamal900]

They're on my profile. YDNA is indigenous Levantine because I am a troo Judaean, even if it is a little rare these days.

My MTDNA is typical for Ashkenazi Jews and dates to North Italy - but my maternal line is not Ashkenazic Jewish, but rather, Asian Jewish. Mystery! Of course it is probable some Ashkenazi woman moved to Iraq or India a few centuries ago.

I'm confused.

[Longbowman]

I'm confused.

What about

[Kamal900]

What about

Uh, never mind. I reread your post carefully, lol.

[Era]

They're on my profile. YDNA is indigenous Levantine because I am a troo Judaean, even if it is a little rare these days.

My MTDNA is typical for Ashkenazi Jews and dates to North Italy - but my maternal line is not Ashkenazic Jewish, but rather, Asian Jewish. Mystery! Of course it is probable some Ashkenazi woman moved to Iraq or India a few centuries ago.

you can't say "dates' and referr to a place

[Longbowman]

you can't say "dates' and referr to a place

I just did. Problem?

[Petalpusher]

R1b s28/z36 : originated around the Alps cultures (La Tène/Hallstatt) now peaks in N.Italy/Switzerland
H1c : originated in Doggerland, now peaks in Danemark

[Era]

ydna: E-V13 originated in Albania peaks in Albania
mtdna: U4b originated and peaks in Scandinavia

[Anglojew]

I haven't bought the kit for the Y-DNA kit yet, but hopefully i will buy it soon.

Let me know when you do mate.

[Anglojew]

They're on my profile. YDNA is indigenous Levantine because I am a troo Judaean, even if it is a little rare these days.

My MTDNA is typical for Ashkenazi Jews and dates to North Italy - but my maternal line is not Ashkenazic Jewish, but rather, Asian Jewish. Mystery! Of course it is probable some Ashkenazi woman moved to Iraq or India a few centuries ago.

Khazar?

[Anglojew]

R1b s28/z36 : originated around the Alps cultures (La Tène/Hallstatt) now peaks in N.Italy/Switzerland
H1c : originated in Doggerland, now peaks in Danemark

Congrats on your European indigenousness

[Anglojew]

ydna: E-V13 originated in Albania peaks in Albania
mtdna: U4b originated and peaks in Scandinavia

A fellow U.

When did E was originally African of course. Is E V13 only found in Europe?

[Damião de Góis]

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5364/s116k.jpg

I couldn't find any map for my J1c subclade but it's common in Europe going by Eupedia.


J1c
J1c1 : found throughout Europe
J1c1a : found in the British Isles and Finland
J1c1b : found in western and northern Europe
J1c1c
J1c1d
J1c1e
J1c1f
J1c1g : found in western Europe

Both probably originated outside of Europe though.

[Anglojew]

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5364/s116k.jpg

I couldn't find any map for my J1c subclade but it's common in Europe going by Eupedia.



Both probably originated outside of Europe though.

It looks Mesolithic from distribution

[Longbowman]

Khazar?

What?

[Anglojew]

What?

What are the origins of the "Asian-Jews" you said you're descended from?

[Longbowman]

What are the origins of the "Asian-Jews" you said you're descended from?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdadi_Jews

I am like 2-3% EEA though which is way high for even some Russians and I'm only 3/4 AJ so I am clearly the Khazariest.

[Anglojew]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdadi_Jews

I am like 2-3% EEA though which is way high for even some Russians and I'm only 3/4 AJ so I am clearly the Khazariest.

Probably is Khazar/Central Asian. I wonder if it's linked to my Q?

This might mention this:
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131008/ncomms3543/full/ncomms3543.html

[Longbowman]

Probably is Khazar/Central Asian. I wonder if it's linked to my Q?

This might mention this:
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131008/ncomms3543/full/ncomms3543.html

What? that's the old Costa paper, what has it got to do with Khazar stuff? btw it suggest less than 1% Asian input in terms of mtDNA. Your Q1b was in Israel 2,000 years ago as explained, Palis and Sephardics have it too.

[Figaro]

I hadn't heard of jameslick but will check it out.

It's interesting N1b is common in the ME. Do you know much about it's migration to Europe (time period etc)?

I have tried to gander all over the place about it, but there is not as much research into my subclade than a lot others. I'm not really sure what you'd "call" it or how it exactly got to eastern europe (my mother's maternal side is basically Ruthenian and polonized belarussians. There is also some Ashkenazi, but such is probably irrelevant to my deep maternal side).

[Journeyman26]

yDNA: R1b S28 - Highest proportion in Switzerland, N. Italy, S. France. Standard proto Italo-Celt La Tene/Halstatt stuff.

mtDNA: X2d .. very ancient and very rare... haplogroup X has a huge range and is known as "the traveller" but it is always found in very low concentration; subgroup X2d originated on the Eurasian steppe.

http://cdn.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-S28.gif


Not really a good map for X2d as it is a pretty rare form but here is for all forms of X. X2d is the group if you start at Poland and go down to through the Balkans.
http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-X-map.png

[Petalpusher]

yDNA: R1b S28 - Highest proportion in Switzerland, N. Italy, S. France. Standard proto Italo-Celt La Tene/Halstatt stuff.
Did you test further L2? (or do you plan to), there are several subclades U152 is really interesting. Apparently mine is Z36, the "La Tène" specific, but there s plenty, some more Italo-Roman, Italo-Gaulish,..