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Pony
08-14-2015, 04:19 AM
23andme Results:

99.5% European
77.8% British and Irish
18.7% Broadly Northern European
1.7% French and German
0.6% Broadly European
0.5% Scandinavian
0.2% Broadly Southern European

0.4% African
0.4% West African

<0.1% East Asian and Native American
<0.1% Yakut

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 46.91
2 Baltic 25.43
3 West_Med 15.02
4 West_Asian 8.24
5 East_Med 2.40

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_German @ 5.810843
2 North_Dutch @ 6.077693
3 Orcadian @ 6.142858
4 Southeast_English @ 6.484840
5 Danish @ 6.597621
6 Irish @ 6.689719
7 South_Dutch @ 6.984073
8 Southwest_English @ 7.085914
9 West_Scottish @ 7.796296
10 Norwegian @ 7.909532
11 West_German @ 8.040718
12 Swedish @ 8.911836
13 Austrian @ 12.347555
14 East_German @ 12.692341
15 French @ 13.582640
16 North_Swedish @ 14.709314
17 Hungarian @ 17.870987
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.649982
19 Southwest_French @ 22.233379
20 Southwest_Finnish @ 22.777754

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +50% South_Dutch @ 4.205994


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Moldavian +25% Southwest_English @ 3.433730

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 East_German + Irish + Irish + South_Dutch @ 3.389053
2 Irish + Moldavian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.413677
3 Moldavian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.430844
4 Irish + Irish + Moldavian + Southwest_English @ 3.433730
5 Hungarian + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.476764
6 Croatian + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.495328
7 Austrian + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.498210
8 Croatian + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.504060
9 Croatian + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.507399
10 East_German + Irish + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.520408
11 Irish + Moldavian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.524177
12 Austrian + Irish + Irish + South_Dutch @ 3.524537
13 Irish + Moldavian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.533280
14 Moldavian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.541126
15 Irish + Irish + Moldavian + West_Scottish @ 3.547322
16 Croatian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.549941
17 East_German + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.551828
18 Croatian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.552884
19 Moldavian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.554828
20 Hungarian + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.559687


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.30
2 Atlantic 28.17
3 Baltic 13.08
4 Eastern_Euro 12.38
5 West_Med 9.37
6 West_Asian 6.23

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_German @ 5.770380
2 South_Dutch @ 6.976506
3 Danish @ 8.340039
4 Southwest_English @ 8.346826
5 Southeast_English @ 8.485399
6 North_Dutch @ 9.038358
7 Irish @ 9.045651
8 East_German @ 9.600145
9 West_Scottish @ 9.678809
10 West_German @ 11.224610
11 Orcadian @ 11.756536
12 Norwegian @ 11.786417
13 Swedish @ 12.385559
14 French @ 12.771876
15 North_Swedish @ 12.903606
16 West_Norwegian @ 13.903845
17 Austrian @ 14.200348
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 14.335539
19 Hungarian @ 16.058187
20 Finnish @ 18.393915

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_German +50% Irish @ 4.500952


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.421059


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque + Orcadian + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_Norwegian @ 4.147218
2 Russian_Smolensk + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 4.346233
3 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southwest_Russian + West_Norwegian @ 4.357618
4 French_Basque + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 4.377318
5 Russian_Smolensk + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 4.383005
6 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.421059
7 French_Basque + Norwegian + Orcadian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.426363
8 Russian_Smolensk + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 4.431971
9 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.444614
10 Irish + Russian_Smolensk + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 4.451361
11 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_Scottish @ 4.475881
12 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.478730
13 Orcadian + Russian_Smolensk + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 4.487278
14 East_German + East_German + Irish + West_Scottish @ 4.490097
15 East_German + East_German + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 4.496851
16 East_German + East_German + Irish + Southeast_English @ 4.500531
17 East_German + East_German + Irish + Irish @ 4.500952
18 East_German + East_German + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 4.507126
19 East_German + East_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.512613
20 French_Basque + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 4.520948

Thanks.

Oneeye
08-14-2015, 04:26 AM
British Isles mix? You're not too close to any population.

Petalpusher
08-14-2015, 12:59 PM
American UK all the way, with probably a touch of German. Northing too uncommon in the admix

Neon Knight
08-14-2015, 01:55 PM
The results fit in with being 1/4 or 1/8 German. The GEDmatch calculators seem to have a bias towards German for British/Irish and northern French.

Petalpusher
08-14-2015, 02:14 PM
The hint for German is the lower N.Atlantic than the usual British isles, and slightly higher Baltic.

Pony
08-14-2015, 07:15 PM
so pretty much just British and German then huh.
could anyone tell me how much of it they think is from Scotland, Wales, Ireland, England or no

Petalpusher
08-14-2015, 07:27 PM
so pretty much just British and German then huh.
could anyone tell me how much of it they think is from Scotland, Wales, Ireland, England or no

It's very hard to tell, they are all very close to each others genetically. You could try MDLP K23b there s more British isles samples but it won't give you much more insights, just where you end up close to, if you are a mix of all this (and German)

de Burgh II
08-14-2015, 07:33 PM
Your 23andme results puts you tremendously within the British Isles category with some germanic influences overall. Nonetheless, do you have any French ancestry by any chance?

Your East German ancestry popping up may explain why some slavic influences are being referenced within the calculator.

de Burgh II
08-14-2015, 07:40 PM
You could always click on the single population sharing via oracle to get a break down of the rough percentages to get a good idea of how it roughly correlates within your genetic makeup.

Pony
08-14-2015, 07:47 PM
I do have some French from Alsace ancestry but it's from the late 1700s and early 1800s.
So I'm guessing that Broadly Northern European is probably German then? I didn't know anything about my moms side before 23andme but now it seems she's part British.

here is MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 35.93
2 European_Early_Farmers 28.23
3 Caucasian 20.77
4 South_Central_Asian 7.37
5 Ancestral_Altaic 5.45

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish @ 1.394139
2 Frisian @ 2.666793
3 English @ 2.694093
4 Belgian @ 3.718458
5 North_European @ 3.838361
6 CEU @ 4.087133
7 English_Cornwall_GBR @ 4.122957
8 English_Kent_GBR @ 4.252596
9 British @ 4.540792
10 Welsh @ 4.697783
11 Dutch @ 5.117578
12 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 5.157741
13 Orcadian @ 6.135240
14 German-Volga @ 6.403758
15 South_German @ 6.566329
16 Icelandic @ 7.682288
17 Norwegian_West @ 7.865699
18 Norwegian_East @ 7.874942
19 Dane @ 9.478763
20 North_German @ 9.682476

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 1.394139


Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Irish +25% Irish +25% Irish @ 1.394139

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Dutch + English_Cornwall_GBR + Irish + Irish @ 1.375920
2 Irish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.394139
3 English_Cornwall_GBR + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.421903
4 English + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.426581
5 Frisian + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.429156
6 German-Volga + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.431013
7 German-Volga + Irish + Irish + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.433884
8 English_Cornwall_GBR + Frisian + Irish + Irish @ 1.493553
9 Frisian + German-Volga + Irish + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.533690
10 Dutch + Irish + Irish + Welsh @ 1.540994
11 English + Frisian + Irish + Irish @ 1.560916
12 Frisian + German-Volga + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.570698
13 British + German-Volga + Irish + Irish @ 1.577413
14 Belgian + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.591838
15 Dutch + English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Cornwall_GBR + Irish @ 1.618073
16 British + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.632102
17 English_Kent_GBR + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.634729
18 French + Irish + Irish + Swede_Saami @ 1.637795
19 Dutch + English_Cornwall_GBR + Frisian + Irish @ 1.638065
20 CEU + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.638214

de Burgh II
08-14-2015, 07:57 PM
I do have some French from Alsace ancestry but it's from the late 1700s and early 1800s.
So I'm guessing that Broadly Northern European is probably German then? I didn't know anything about my moms side before 23andme but now it seems she's part British.

here is MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 35.93
2 European_Early_Farmers 28.23
3 Caucasian 20.77
4 South_Central_Asian 7.37
5 Ancestral_Altaic 5.45

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish @ 1.394139
2 Frisian @ 2.666793
3 English @ 2.694093
4 Belgian @ 3.718458
5 North_European @ 3.838361
6 CEU @ 4.087133
7 English_Cornwall_GBR @ 4.122957
8 English_Kent_GBR @ 4.252596
9 British @ 4.540792
10 Welsh @ 4.697783
11 Dutch @ 5.117578
12 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 5.157741
13 Orcadian @ 6.135240
14 German-Volga @ 6.403758
15 South_German @ 6.566329
16 Icelandic @ 7.682288
17 Norwegian_West @ 7.865699
18 Norwegian_East @ 7.874942
19 Dane @ 9.478763
20 North_German @ 9.682476

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 1.394139


Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Irish +25% Irish +25% Irish @ 1.394139

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Dutch + English_Cornwall_GBR + Irish + Irish @ 1.375920
2 Irish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.394139
3 English_Cornwall_GBR + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.421903
4 English + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.426581
5 Frisian + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.429156
6 German-Volga + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.431013
7 German-Volga + Irish + Irish + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.433884
8 English_Cornwall_GBR + Frisian + Irish + Irish @ 1.493553
9 Frisian + German-Volga + Irish + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.533690
10 Dutch + Irish + Irish + Welsh @ 1.540994
11 English + Frisian + Irish + Irish @ 1.560916
12 Frisian + German-Volga + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.570698
13 British + German-Volga + Irish + Irish @ 1.577413
14 Belgian + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.591838
15 Dutch + English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Cornwall_GBR + Irish @ 1.618073
16 British + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.632102
17 English_Kent_GBR + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.634729
18 French + Irish + Irish + Swede_Saami @ 1.637795
19 Dutch + English_Cornwall_GBR + Frisian + Irish @ 1.638065
20 CEU + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 1.638214

I would say this is quite plausible since your overwhelmingly British Isles from your 23andme results so the corresponding reference populations will more or less gravitate most towards British Isles reference populations since this is where the majority of your genetic makeup comes from autosomally.

Graham
08-14-2015, 08:10 PM
You slip into the mix that many Americans are in here. A British/Irish & Germanic mix.. Which means you could match English, Germans, Dutch etc..

The AC itself I'd ignore. There's too much inconsistency.

Neon Knight
08-14-2015, 11:48 PM
Do the 'One to Many' test on GEDmatch and see what kind of surnames come up.

Pony
08-15-2015, 12:08 AM
yup I'm not scrolling through all of them but most of the top matches are Irish/English/Scottish with a couple German, Danish and French ones.
kind of disappointing to me that I'm like a lot of Americans here, I wanted to be European but something I thought was cool.

Jägerstaffel
08-15-2015, 12:09 AM
yup I'm not scrolling through all of them but most of the top matches are Irish/English/Scottish with a couple German, Danish and French ones.
kind of disappointing to me that I'm like a lot of Americans here, I wanted to be European but something I thought was cool.

Irish/English/Scottish with a couple German, Danish and French isn't cool?

Pony
08-15-2015, 12:28 AM
no it's fine and I'm happy with being those things but I did want some Slavic ancestry.

Pony
08-16-2015, 01:44 AM
just a little question.
why is Baltic and Eastern Euro so high on some of the project calculators?
I've noticed most that have it have it in a decent amount for me.