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Berahthraban
08-15-2015, 09:52 PM
How much native European hunter-gatherer percent does the Sami population have on average? It would be interesting if we could compare it to Scandinavia, Finland and the Baltic countries. If this is the wrong part of the forum for this, please move it.

Linebacker
08-15-2015, 09:53 PM
All of it.

Berahthraban
08-15-2015, 10:13 PM
All of it.

They have at least 10% mongoloid + I have seen much more as well. Do you have any link?

Linebacker
08-15-2015, 10:17 PM
They have at least 10% mongoloid + I have seen much more as well. Do you have any link?

Mongoloid is not farmer.

Mongoloids in the northern steppe(which is the type of Mongoloid Saami have) also live as hunger-gatherers/fishermen.

Thunder_shock
08-15-2015, 10:21 PM
Pure hunter gatherers are extinct. They have some neolithic.

Berahthraban
08-15-2015, 10:25 PM
Mongoloid is not farmer.

Mongoloids in the northern steppe(which is the type of Mongoloid Saami have) also live as hunger-gatherers/fishermen.

Yeah, but it's not the same type of hunter-gatheres that are native to Europe. I am asking how much native European hunter-gatherer the Sami have. I have seen that Swedes score about 45%, if i'm not mistaken, and the Baltic countries have a bit more.

Berahthraban
08-15-2015, 10:26 PM
Pure hunter gatherers are extinct. They have some neolithic.

I have seen in several maps that Swedes score about 45%, or something like that. Just wondering what the Samis have, how much farmer they have would also be interesting to know.

Thunder_shock
08-15-2015, 10:29 PM
I have seen in several maps that Swedes score about 45%, or something like that. Just wondering what the Samis have, how much farmer they have would also be interesting to know.
Probably slightly less, with more ANE and Mongoloid.
Remember, it's impossible for a white European to have no neolithic because that's where the genes required for light skin mutation came from.

Berahthraban
08-15-2015, 10:31 PM
Probably slightly less, with more ANE and Mongoloid.
Remember, it's impossible for a white European to have no neolithic because that's where the genes required for light skin mutation came from.

Alright, I think that makes sense. Would of course still be interested in some kind of research/map that can show this.

Thunder_shock
08-15-2015, 10:33 PM
Alright, I think that makes sense. Would of course still be interested in some kind of research/map that can show this.
I dont know if they've been tested, i would also be interested in the results. Judging from pictures they only look slighty different from scandinavians with the difference being markedly pronounced mongoloid features.
I would say they are scandinavians whom have mixed with Siberian groups somewhere down the line.

Dombra
08-15-2015, 10:48 PM
The same amount as other Scandos. The difference is what is besides the WHG

spanish catalan
08-15-2015, 10:52 PM
http://i57.tinypic.com/21kxme1.png

Berahthraban
08-15-2015, 11:01 PM
http://i57.tinypic.com/21kxme1.png

Yeah I saw that on google, thanks for linking though. Even the most northern parts are predominantly non-Sami, so we woulden't be able to know unless they specifically point out the Sami.

spanish catalan
08-15-2015, 11:03 PM
Yeah I saw that on google, thanks for linking though. Even the most northern parts are predominantly non-Sami, so we woulden't be able to know unless they specifically point out the Sami.

for me sami is the people that comes closest to European indigenous

Berahthraban
08-15-2015, 11:13 PM
for me sami is the people that comes closest to European indigenous

The definition of indigenous Europeans should those that are the most hunter-gatherers, am I right? So I can't agree that they would be most indigenous, not at all, especially since they have very significant mongloid influence. The most indigenous European people are probably those from the Baltic countries, closely followed by Scandinavians and other northern populations. (Unless the Sami have extremely high amounts of HG, which is what I am asking).
http://i60.tinypic.com/znrdpv.png.
I have also seen that a lot of Balkan people have high HG, and it's very common with Haplogroup I

spanish catalan
08-15-2015, 11:17 PM
The definition of indigenous Europeans should those that are the most hunter-gatherers, am I right? So I can't agree that they would be most indigenous, not at all, especially since they have very significant mongloid influence. The most indigenous European people are probably those from the Baltic countries, closely followed by Scandinavians and other northern populations. http://i60.tinypic.com/znrdpv.png.
I have also seen that a lot of Balkan people have high HG, and it's very common with Haplogroup I

yeah, i agree and haplogroup j is the hunter gatherers of west asia

http://i57.tinypic.com/2zphztd.png