Compare My Parent's Eurogenes+COA (23andme)

[Figaro]

Some of you may have seen these before from other threads I have posted them in, but I'm interested in how they compare and contrast. To the unfamiliar eye, what parts of Europe would you guess each of them originate? What are the key differences? Eurogenes k13+ oracle (4) will be used as well as the top ten predicted nations listed under 23andme's COA feature.

Dad
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Gedmatch.Com

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.80
2 Baltic 27.95
3 West_Med 12.26
4 East_Med 6.21
5 West_Asian 4.09
6 Red_Sea 2.08
7 Siberian 1.36
8 Amerindian 1.01


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_German @ 5.761071
2 South_Dutch @ 7.277976
3 West_German @ 7.325759
4 Danish @ 7.797540
5 North_Dutch @ 8.020996
6 Austrian @ 8.350258
7 Swedish @ 8.389397
8 East_German @ 8.601172
9 Southeast_English @ 8.867029
10 Norwegian @ 9.288633
11 Orcadian @ 9.385333
12 Irish @ 10.902158
13 North_Swedish @ 11.237629
14 Southwest_English @ 11.265511
15 West_Scottish @ 11.617356
16 Hungarian @ 13.154619
17 French @ 13.580544
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 18.469563
19 Croatian @ 19.356993
20 South_Polish @ 19.581598

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% North_Swedish @ 2.115680


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_German +25% Southwest_Finnish +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.834661


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 North_German + Norwegian + Portuguese + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.625739
2 North_German + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Portuguese @ 1.665949
3 French + Norwegian + Southwest_Finnish + West_German @ 1.739516
4 Finnish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Portuguese @ 1.749798
5 North_German + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 1.763363
6 Danish + Finnish + North_Dutch + Portuguese @ 1.778211
7 French + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_German @ 1.780200
8 Danish + North_German + Portuguese + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.802596
9 Finnish + North_Dutch + North_German + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.810510
10 Finnish + North_Dutch + North_German + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.813811
11 North_German + Portuguese + Southwest_Finnish + Swedish @ 1.818700
12 French + North_Dutch + Southwest_Finnish + West_German @ 1.822011
13 North_Dutch + North_German + Portuguese + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.832227
14 North_German + North_German + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.834661
15 North_German + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.840943
16 Danish + Finnish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.844105
17 North_German + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.846616
18 Danish + French + Southwest_Finnish + West_German @ 1.859388
19 Finnish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.870677
20 Finnish + North_German + Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.875298

Done.

Elapsed time 1.9019 seconds.

23andme COA in descending order (set to 10 cm's):
Greece (based on one 14 cm length match. They appear Greek+some Spanish/Basque ancestry if one of the listed surnames indicates it)
Denmark
Brazil (based on one guy. Will not respond to request for basics in fam history)
U.K
Ireland
Sweden
Russia
Poland
Chile

Mom
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Gedmatch.Com

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.28
2 North_Atlantic 32.84
3 West_Med 11.92
4 East_Med 6.83
5 West_Asian 5.66
6 South_Asian 1.77
7 Red_Sea 1.43
8 Siberian 1.39


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Polish @ 5.615799
2 Hungarian @ 6.944128
3 Croatian @ 7.364062
4 East_German @ 7.437738
5 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.537293
6 Ukrainian @ 8.367209
7 Polish @ 9.347516
8 Austrian @ 9.387593
9 Moldavian @ 11.180273
10 Southwest_Finnish @ 12.414995
11 Southwest_Russian @ 12.811396
12 Russian_Smolensk @ 12.933526
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 13.416420
14 Estonian_Polish @ 13.507435
15 Belorussian @ 13.618048
16 North_Swedish @ 14.169118
17 Serbian @ 15.586457
18 Finnish @ 15.714602
19 Estonian @ 16.162874
20 Kargopol_Russian @ 16.297646

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_German +50% South_Polish @ 2.123548


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Orcadian +25% Romanian @ 1.106264


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Serbian + South_Dutch @ 0.994914
2 French + Hungarian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Russian @ 1.006805
3 Lithuanian + North_Italian + North_Swedish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.031910
4 East_German + Polish + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.041756
5 Estonian + Russian_Smolensk + Serbian + South_Dutch @ 1.048694
6 Estonian_Polish + Hungarian + South_Dutch + Southwest_Russian @ 1.097012
7 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + Romanian @ 1.106264
8 Estonian + Lithuanian + Romanian + South_Dutch @ 1.110855
9 Estonian + French + Lithuanian + Serbian @ 1.130045
10 Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Romanian + Southwest_English @ 1.159342
11 Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Serbian + West_German @ 1.160213
12 Lithuanian + North_Italian + North_Swedish + Southwest_Russian @ 1.169903
13 Estonian_Polish + French + South_Polish + South_Polish @ 1.170097
14 Belorussian + Croatian + South_Dutch + South_Polish @ 1.170770
15 East_German + Russian_Smolensk + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.178339
16 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Hungarian + South_Dutch @ 1.185554
17 Estonian_Polish + Hungarian + Russian_Smolensk + South_Dutch @ 1.188112
18 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + Serbian @ 1.195627
19 Croatian + Estonian_Polish + South_Dutch + South_Polish @ 1.197117
20 Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Romanian + Southeast_English @ 1.197196

Done.

Elapsed time 1.6311 seconds.

COA:
Ukraine
Poland
Russia
Hungary
Romania
Lithuania
Germany
Belarus
U.K
Finland

[Gooding]

I'd say that your Dad is typically Northern European and your mother Eastern European. I think your mother has a strong Slavic component and your Dad a strong Germanic one.

[Figaro]

I'd say that your Dad is typically Northern European and your mother Eastern European. I think your mother has a strong Slavic component and your Dad a strong Germanic one.

I'd agree with that, senor. Ty for your contribution.

[Faklon]

Is your r1a the Scandinavian branch?

[Figaro]

Is your r1a the Scandinavian branch?

I don't know. That info comes to me via 23andme. Said website does not go beyond R1a1a for me. I cannot narrow it down further.

[Guapo]

I don't know. That info comes to me via 23andme. Said website does not go beyond R1a1a for me. I cannot narrow it down further.

try ftdna

[Figaro]

try ftdna

I would, but I'm cheap. It must be the little smattering of Ashkenazi in me.

[Guapo]

I would, but I'm cheap. It must be the little smattering of Ashkenazi in me.

could be the dutch in you as well

[Figaro]

could be the dutch in you as well

Not sure I got Dutch. Would be cool, but I don't see the evidence.

And no, I don't consider getting North or South Dutch on eurogenes evidence. From what I understand, many Brits get Dutch.

[Guapo]

Not sure I got Dutch. Would be cool, but I don't see the evidence.

And no, I don't consider getting North or South Dutch on eurogenes evidence. From what I understand, many Brits get Dutch.

must be the north german in you then

[Figaro]

must be the north german in you then

I guess. My paternal grandfather seems like a mix of N.W and N.E German.

[Guapo]

I guess. My paternal grandfather seems like a mix of N.W and N.E German.

where is the gook side from?

[Figaro]

where is the gook side from?

lol...would have to be my mother. My dad is west euro as fuck, save a Little east German. My mom, on the other hand, is 1/2 Ruthenian/Russian/Polish. Plus my mtdna haplogroup is pretty rare in Europe...

[Guapo]

lol...would have to be my mother. My dad is west euro as fuck, save a Little east German. My mom, on the other hand, is 1/2 Ruthenian/Russian/Polish. Plus my mtdna haplogroup is pretty rare in Europe...

yeah no shit, N1b1b??

[Figaro]

yeah no shit, N1b1b??

appears to be. lol.

Would love to know how that happened.

[Guapo]

appears to be. lol.

Would love to know how that happened.

probably with the indo-european invasions. mine is supposedly indigeous to central europe.

[Figaro]

probably with the indo-european invasions. mine is supposedly indigeous to central europe.

Not sure what N1b1b has to do with Indo-Euros.

It's very rare in Europe and only on the uncommon side in the middle east. If anything, it's something very basil middle eastern.

[Guapo]

Not sure what N1b1b has to do with Indo-Euros.

It's very rare in Europe and only on the uncommon side in the middle east. If anything, it's something very basil middle eastern.

indo-euro men picked up chicks from everywhere, seems like your mt-dna is more common in east europe so that's possible.

[Figaro]

indo-euro men picked up chicks from everywhere, seems like your mt-dna is more common in east europe so that's possible.

What mtdna do most Slavic wimminz get?

[Guapo]

What mtdna do most Slavic wimminz get?

u or k something or other

[Figaro]

Incidentally, n1b1b seems all too under-investigated. I have little idea about it, in a general kind of sense.

What populations have it with highest density?