Question about my Haplogroup.

[Potentia]

My haplogroup is R1b1b2a1a2d
The question that I have is, where did it come from. Because, it is not really common at all in Spain. Also, it is apparently the Celtic haplogroup. Does that mean I am Celtic? My last name comes from the region of Galicia in Spain, which is known to some people as the 7th Celtic Nation. I put a map to show where the haplogroup is most prevalent.

http://cdn.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-S28.gif

[Potentia]

Bump.

Also, could it have anything to do with the Roman expansion?

[Lawalye]

According to the map, that's not too uncommon in Spain, 1-5% of iberian has it and 5-10% on the north-western coast.
It's a celtic haplogroup which is supposedly originated from the alps : R1b-S28 => 3,500 years ago (around the Alps) - Eupedia

What do you know about your most distant patrilineal ancestor ?

[Potentia]

According to the map, that's not too uncommon in Spain, 1-5% of iberian has it and 5-10% on the north-western coast.
It's a celtic haplogroup which is supposedly originated from the alps : R1b-S28 => 3,500 years ago (around the Alps) - Eupedia

What do you know about your most distant patrilineal ancestor ?

In all honesty. I do not really know. Reason being, I am having trouble tracking my Paternal Line through Mexico. But, I am making progress. So, it is Celtic? Can it also be Roman?

[Carlito's Way]

In all honesty. I do not really know. Reason being, I am having trouble tracking my Paternal Line through Mexico. But, I am making progress. So, it is Celtic? Can it also be Roman?

what part of Mexico is your paternal side, potentia?

[Potentia]

what part of Mexico is your paternal side, potentia?

As far as I can tell, Zacatecas is where it is from. I could be wrong though.

[Carlito's Way]

As far as I can tell, Zacatecas is where it is from. I could be wrong though.

check this blog out, you can message Moises(the owner of the blog) and he can help you with information about Zacatecas and also help you trace your paternal side to see who you descend from
http://moisesgarza.com/blog/

[Lawalye]

In all honesty. I do not really know. Reason being, I am having trouble tracking my Paternal Line through Mexico. But, I am making progress. So, it is Celtic? Can it also be Roman?

The haplogroup was spread during celtic expansion so some romans could have carried it too but it has a celtic origin.

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/212477cartemigrations.jpg (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=212477cartemigrations.jpg)

[Potentia]

This map is interesting. My haplogroup is extremely rare.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c7/3e/c9/c73ec94f1560c6049b8767ac0278d477.jpg

[Artek]

The haplogroup was spread during celtic expansion so some romans could have carried it too but it has a celtic origin.

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/212477cartemigrations.jpg (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=212477cartemigrations.jpg)
I doubt that U152 originated within Celts (although U152 definitely made up a nice part of them, aside other branches). It's too old to be just Celtic - http://www.yfull.com/tree/R-U152/ .

Look at the ages, there were no Celts around 2500-2000 B.C. One German Bell Beaker was tested U152.

[Potentia]

Bump.

[sailormoon]

Haplogroup R-S28/U152 is named as the Southern European or alpine R1b haplogroup by Lucotte (2015). Its frequencies peak in Grasse in France (71%), followed by the north of Italy (63%). R1b in southern Europe was most likely to be introduced by Anatolian farmers around 5,000 years ago. Haplogroup R-S28/U152 spread from southern France to other parts of southern Europe and it can be found at 25.0% in Barcelona.



Two hundred and sixty seven subjects (30% of those that are of haplogroup M269) belong to sub-haplogroup R-S28/U152 (Table 1). The most elevated value of sub-haplogroup R-S28 frequencies (71%) corresponds to Grasse in France. Elevated values of R-S28 frequencies are found in the north of Italy (Torino: 63% and Milano: 54%); relatively important values concern the south of France (Montpellier: 55% and Corsica: 53%) and the rest of Italy (Roma: 45%, Calabria: 44%, Sicily: 36% and Sardinia: 31%). Figure 6 shows the R-S28 isofrequency map in West-Europe. Starting from a zone of high S28 concentration in southwestern France and in the north of Italy, frequency of this haplogroup decreases progressively towards north, west and east in the rest of West-Europe. Because the highest S28 values are concentrated in a region located in the European South, we intend to name the corresponding haplogroup “the Southern European R1b haplogroup” (the “alpine” haplotype).
http://file.scirp.org/pdf/AA_2015020314480042.pdf

[Potentia]

Haplogroup R-S28/U152 is named the Southern European or alpine R1b haplogroup by Lucotte (2015). Its frequencies peak in Grasse in France (71%), followed by the north of Italy (63%). R1b in southern Europe was most likely to be introduced by Anatolian farmers around 5,000 years ago.

Yep...

However, my surname comes from Galicia, which is a region in the North-West of Spain. R1b-U152 is not all that prevalent in the Iberian Peninsula.

[Rethel]

Yep...

However, my surname comes from Galicia, which is a region in the North-West of Spain. R1b-U152 is not all that prevalent in the Iberian Peninsula.

Doesn't matter.
In Galicia there is no zero bearers, but few. So you are among few.
Btw, you have common surname, so you can be as well from other
country, not necesserly Galicia (if this is only your guess of course,
not sure knowledge).

[Potentia]

Doesn't matter.
In Galicia there is no zero bearers, but few. So you are among few.
Btw, you have common surname, so you can be as well from other
country, not necesserly Galicia (if this is only your guess of course,
not sure knowledge).

Well, my surname did originate in Galicia. Which means that my Paternal line does eventually lead back to there.

[Poise n Pen]

AKA the deluded homo clade.