Classify Basque woman (maybe)

[Ibermongr1]

Marian Beitialarrangoitia, how woggy have becomed this celtic basque in the last centuries


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[Raikaswinþs]

Pure Basque. Must be cousins with the fat guy from "Vaya semanita". Basques were not Celtic, but they were still both an Iberian race of mediterranean typology like the rest of Spanish tribes.

And Iberian Celts were likely as Swarthy as the Average Spaniard today.

One theory is that they were celtized natives due to contact with migrating waves crossing the pyriness.

There are other theories too...the truth is probably a combination of all of them.

[Ibermongr1]

Make sanse, just mind that still exist bizarre theories that want us to belive that basque were the original celts...in reality they have the same berid- south med stock of other iberians. Thank you for explanation anyway.

[Deneb]

Make sanse, just mind that still exist bizarre theories that want us to belive that basque were the original celts...in reality they have the same berid- south med stock of other iberians. Thank you for explanation anyway.

False. Berids are far more common in Southern Spain, although they exist in Basque Country too.

[Ibermongr1]

False. Berids are far more common in Southern Spain, although they exist in Basque Country too.

So how you wanna classify this thing? baskid, med, mestiza or what?

[Anthropologique]

So how you wanna classify this thing? baskid, med, mestiza or what?

How about we classify you as a cretin who has no life.

[Sikeliot]

False. Berids are far more common in Southern Spain, although they exist in Basque Country too.

Basques look similar to Keltic-Nordid type Brits as well as to Dinarid types. Berid is rare there.

[Raikaswinþs]

Make sanse, just mind that still exist bizarre theories that want us to belive that basque were the original celts...in reality they have the same berid- south med stock of other iberians. Thank you for explanation anyway.

I have never heard in Spain that Basques were Celts. I have only heard here that misinterpretation of a study made in the UK due to some studies by Oppenhaimer that linked Basque and Cantabric fishermen with the native pre-indoeuropean Britons such as the Welsh (Before even these natives were "celtic")

Now that is a study that has generated quite controversy and other results have contradicted it.

Regardless, Basques are indeed of the same Stock than the rest of Spaniards, and their genetic particularities and slightly separated cluster is due to bottleneck and founding effects due to isolation. The same hold true for the famous Pasiegos of Cantabria.


Now, thee's a chance you maybe mistaking that theory with another theory pertaining celtic languages as having spread northwards from Tartessos (who would be a proto-celtic language) Instead of Westwards from asian indoeuropean migrations. I am not very familiar with this theory nor I pay much attention to it as I don't think it has much support.


Regardless, there's no such thing as "berid", all of that is bro-science which no actual biologist takes seriously (the same applies to all the other "ids" like faelid, dinarid ...lol, all made up by amateurs based on XIX taxonomic outdated theories)

Most Spaniards (and Portuguese) belong to their own variety of Mediterranean phenotypes; the Iberian range, which of course shares some similarities with South West Mediterranean varieties, mostly due to convergent evolution, but in reality there's no direct cluster in lineages.

[Anthropologique]

Basques look similar to Keltic-Nordid type Brits as well as to Dinarid types. Berid is rare there.

The only place in Iberia I ran into Berids was Southern Spain and they were not the dominant type there. Portugal has a few in the Algarve.

[Anthropologique]

I have never heard in Spain that Basques were Celts. I have only heard here that misinterpretation of a study made in the UK due to some studies by Oppenhaimer that linked Basque and Cantabric fishermen with the native pre-indoeuropean Britons such as the Welsh (Before even these natives were "celtic")

Now that is a study that has generated quite controversy and other results have contradicted it.

Regardless, Basques are indeed of the same Stock than the rest of Spaniards, and their genetic particularities and slightly separated cluster is due to bottleneck and founding effects due to isolation. The same hold true for the famous Pasiegos of Cantabria.


Now, thee's a chance you maybe mistaking that theory with another theory pertaining celtic languages as having spread northwards from Tartessos (who would be a proto-celtic language) Instead of Westwards from asian indoeuropean migrations. I am not very familiar with this theory nor I pay much attention to it as I don't think it has much support.


Regardless, there's no such thing as "berid", all of that is bro-science who no actual biologist takes seriously (the same applies to all the other "ids" like faelid, dinarid ...lol, all made up by amateurs based on XIX taxonomic outdated theories)

Most Spaniards (and Portuguese) belong to their own variety of Mediterranean phenotypes; the Iberian range, which of course shares some similarities with South West Mediterranean varieties, mostly due to convergent evolution, but in reality there's no direct cluster in lineages.

The guy you are addressing is a troll.

[Ibermongr1]

How about we classify you as a cretin who has no life.

Said the schizophrenic insecure fool who is stuck all the day on this troll forum. xD

[Cristiano viejo]

The guy you are addressing is a troll.

http://www.sigloxxplaterprestatuak.com/images/platerrak/espaguetis%20-%20spagetiak.jpg

[Anthropologique]

I have never heard in Spain that Basques were Celts. I have only heard here that misinterpretation of a study made in the UK due to some studies by Oppenhaimer that linked Basque and Cantabric fishermen with the native pre-indoeuropean Britons such as the Welsh (Before even these natives were "celtic")

Now that is a study that has generated quite controversy and other results have contradicted it.

Regardless, Basques are indeed of the same Stock than the rest of Spaniards, and their genetic particularities and slightly separated cluster is due to bottleneck and founding effects due to isolation. The same hold true for the famous Pasiegos of Cantabria.


Now, thee's a chance you maybe mistaking that theory with another theory pertaining celtic languages as having spread northwards from Tartessos (who would be a proto-celtic language) Instead of Westwards from asian indoeuropean migrations. I am not very familiar with this theory nor I pay much attention to it as I don't think it has much support.


Regardless, there's no such thing as "berid", all of that is bro-science which no actual biologist takes seriously (the same applies to all the other "ids" like faelid, dinarid ...lol, all made up by amateurs based on XIX taxonomic outdated theories)

Most Spaniards (and Portuguese) belong to their own variety of Mediterranean phenotypes; the Iberian range, which of course shares some similarities with South West Mediterranean varieties, mostly due to convergent evolution, but in reality there's no direct cluster in lineages.

Koch and Cunliffe, among others, support the notion of Celtic languages developing separately in Western Iberia and up through the Atlantic facade. I am have spread through Mediterranean made with the East. It is well known that the European Atlantic facade countries had extensive maritime trading networks with one another since the early Bronze Age. Two recent books that focus on this are Koch and Cunliffe eds. Celtic from the West (2010, 2011) and Celtic from the West 2 (2012).

[Anthropologique]

Said the schizophrenic insecure fool who is stuck all the day on this troll forum. xD

I suggest you find a proper psychiatrist to address your mental condition, clown. Now, kindly go fuck yourself, Untermensch!

[Ibericus]

Another maniac who escaped the madhouse of italicRats.

[Petalpusher]

You can also find that type in Basques, then it's up to anyone to find out which is the most common (at least this one is Basque for sure)

http://s3.postimg.org/497pl0nnn/2954992774_26495695f3.jpg

http://s15.postimg.org/gcselej2j/3951836_640px.jpg

[Anthropologique]

You can also find that type in Basques, then it's up to anyone to find out which is the most common (at least this one is Basque for sure)

http://s3.postimg.org/497pl0nnn/2954992774_26495695f3.jpg

http://s15.postimg.org/gcselej2j/3951836_640px.jpg

Yes, that is the more common Basque phenotype.

[Antimage]

Basques look similar to Keltic-Nordid type Brits as well as to Dinarid types. Berid is rare there.

Do pure basques even exist? I think vast majority of them are mixed with spaniards

[Carlito's Way]

thats a man

[ius semper]

Do pure basques even exist? I think vast majority of them are mixed with spaniards

basques are spaniards.

[Petalpusher]

Do pure basques even exist? I think vast majority of them are mixed with spaniards

The Spanish Basques seems a little more mixed with Spain, which is comprehensible. The French Basques seems unmixed and by that i mean, they didn't mix with Southwest French according to the datas, but SW French are to some extent mixed with Basques (seems it only worked this way)

[Cristiano viejo]

Do pure basques even exist? I think vast majority of them are mixed with spaniards

And they are. But since a lot of centuries ago, nor even recent.

[Raikaswinþs]

Do pure basques even exist? I think vast majority of them are mixed with spaniards

That's like saying that the majority of Umbrians are mixed with the English