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Pallantides
08-21-2010, 10:43 PM
Eugen Arbo's mongoloid types:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2692/manfratrysil.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3115/manfralierne.jpg

same man as the one in the first pictures used as a Teutonic example by Ripley:
http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/ripley112.jpg


Truth be told there is nothing mongoloid about either and I don't know why he classified them as such, he also claimed that parts of Eastern Norway especially the areas around Hedmark had pockets of pure mongoloid racial types.

This Hallingdøl was also mongoloid by Eugen's standards:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6280/halling.jpg

Tomasz
08-21-2010, 10:48 PM
I don't see anything mongoloid in both pictures as well... Very strange classification. :eek:

Pallantides
08-21-2010, 10:58 PM
I don't see anything mongoloid in both pictures as well... Very strange classification. :eek:

How would you classify Carl Oscar Eugen Arbo himself?
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/2567/carloscareugenarbo1.jpg
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1543/carloscareugenarbo2.jpg

Tomasz
08-21-2010, 11:33 PM
How would you classify Carl Oscar Eugen Arbo himself?
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/2567/carloscareugenarbo1.jpg
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1543/carloscareugenarbo2.jpg

To my untrained eye, he would be Cromagnid, eventually Baltid with Nordid influences and possibly some other influx. From which region of Norway he comes?

Also, I don't know about his cephalic index. If he would be brachycephal, I'd have to revise my classification (assume, f.e. Borreby element).

I might be wrong in my classification attempt since I'm still learning. Agrippa and others would probably answer you better. :wink

esaima
08-21-2010, 11:39 PM
How would you classify Carl Oscar Eugen Arbo himself?
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/2567/carloscareugenarbo1.jpg


Mongoloid



joke
In fact maybe Baltid

Pallantides
08-21-2010, 11:41 PM
He was from Skoger in Drammen, Buskerud.


Buskerud:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Norway_Counties_Buskerud_Position.svg/256px-Norway_Counties_Buskerud_Position.svg.png

Drammen's location inside Buskerud:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/NO_0602_Drammen.svg/190px-NO_0602_Drammen.svg.png

Tomasz
08-21-2010, 11:51 PM
Mongoloid



joke
In fact maybe Baltid

You might be right. Of course I mean Baltid. :D

He has somewhat shorter forehead than most of types common in Norway, I don't really know, how to classify him.

Pallantides
08-21-2010, 11:52 PM
His "mongoloids" look more typically Norwegian.:D

Tomasz
08-22-2010, 12:07 AM
His "mongoloids" look more typically Norwegian.:D

How would you define typical Norwegian look? Fair, somewhat robust Cromagnid/Nordid intermediate?

Pallantides
08-22-2010, 12:27 AM
There are many typical Norwegian looks and I don't think there is a standard definition, the answer will be different depending on who you ask and what part of the country they live in.

In my area people like this Norwegian fotball player are quite typical:
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/680/030149499.png


These are the most common phenotypes in my area though:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252311&postcount=1

Agrippa
08-22-2010, 01:37 PM
To me those variants are not really significantly Mongoloid influenced, and you know that I see such influences in the North and North East in specific variants - those are mostly Cromagnoid variants, probably with a certain amount of Eastbaltid-Lappoid, especially the second (eye region).

However, that's at best an influence, you don't detect an influence and say that's Mongoloid.

He himself seems to be Cromagnoid (between Dalofaelid and Borreby) + Nordid, almost 50:50. Typical generalised Nordeuropid, relatively progressive and higher social type obviously.

Tomasz
08-22-2010, 03:01 PM
He himself seems to be Cromagnoid (between Dalofaelid and Borreby) + Nordid, almost 50:50. Typical generalised Nordeuropid, relatively progressive and higher social type obviously.

Ha! So I was right with my classification! :cool: