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Anglojew
09-09-2015, 06:09 AM
BERLIN (AP) — Mohammed Ali Zonoobi bends his head as the priest pours holy water over his black hair. “Will you break away from Satan and his evil deeds?” pastor Gottfried Martens asks the Iranian refugee. “Will you break away from Islam?”

“Yes,” Zonoobi fervently replies. Spreading his hands in blessing, Martens then baptizes the man “in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.”

Mohammed is now Martin — no longer Muslim, but Christian.

Zonoobi, a carpenter from the Iranian city of Shiraz, arrived in Germany with his wife and two children five months ago. He is one of hundreds of mostly Iranian and Afghan asylum seekers who have converted to Christianity at the evangelical Trinity Church in a leafy Berlin neighborhood.

Like Zonoobi, most say true belief prompted their embrace of Christianity. But there’s no overlooking the fact that the decision will also greatly boost their chances of winning asylum by allowing them to claim they would face persecution if sent home.

Martens recognizes that some convert in order to improve their chances of staying in Germany — but for the pastor motivation is unimportant. Many, he said, are so taken by the Christian message that it changes their lives. And he estimates that only about 10 percent of converts do not return to church after christening.

“I know there are — again and again — people coming here because they have some kind of hope regarding their asylum,” Martens said. “I am inviting them to join us because I know that whoever comes here will not be left unchanged.”



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOHy2HxGFdc
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/06/germany-turkish-muslims-pretend-to-convert-to-christianity-to-gain-residency/

Alially
09-09-2015, 06:13 AM
How you can be turkic and Jewish?

Crn Volk
09-09-2015, 06:14 AM
ISIS would kill them for this

Alially
09-09-2015, 06:35 AM
ISIS would kill them for this

If they find someone in their area!
In soon, all syrians will move to europe

Anglojew
09-09-2015, 07:15 AM
How you can be turkic and Jewish?

Lots of Turkic Jewish groups historically and today;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krymchaks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Karaites

Siberian Cold Breeze
09-09-2015, 07:09 PM
Mohammed Ali Zonoobi is Turkish ? :D



too much drama involved

They should follow Turkish Church here instead German church

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BCrk_Ortodoks_Patrikhanesi active since 1924 and has high reputition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocephalous_Turkish_Orthodox_Patriarchate In English

aksakallicocuk
09-09-2015, 07:13 PM
Anglojew finds the most crappy sources.

Turkminator
09-09-2015, 07:33 PM
Stop posting bullshit, Shylock nose.

The article talks about Iranians and Afghans. So, the usual candidates.The Iranian peoples would even sell for money her mother. For Turks, there is no significant reason why they jump from one Abrahamic religion to another.

Turks who renounce Islam, either switch to Tengrism or become Atheists.

Alially
09-09-2015, 08:13 PM
Lots of Turkic Jewish groups historically and today;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krymchaks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Karaites

Are you really part of one of those group?

Böri
09-09-2015, 08:26 PM
This is difficult to believe. Turks wouldn't renounce Islam easily, most difficult after Arabs and not comparable as Iranians, Kurds, Albanians etc who sometimes do, if Turks lose faith they wouldn't become Christian or Jewish

Böri
09-09-2015, 08:34 PM
How you can be turkic and Jewish?

He admires Arslan Israil Yabgu who was Seljuk Khan's son and great grandfather of Kilij Arslan I (founder of Anatolian Seljuk state).

Infinite
09-09-2015, 08:40 PM
Mohammed Ali Zonoobi :coffee:

Siberian Cold Breeze
09-09-2015, 08:59 PM
We have a model here, every two years she changes her religion

She became christian married to a Greek , later buddhist ,later became muslim again this time with hijab
she is safe and sound ,writes silly books and talks rubbish , we are in more danger being exposed to her bullshit
You can take her anytime soon pls lol



her name :Tuğçe Kazaz

Böri
09-09-2015, 09:06 PM
We have a model here, every two years she changes her religion

She became christian married to a Greek , later buddhist ,later became muslim again this time with hijab
she is safe and sound ,writes silly books and talks rubbish , we are in more danger being exposed to her bullshit
You can take her anytime soon pls lol

She became Muslim only one time and it was last. She come from secular irreligious family with Muslim affiliation only, then Greek orthodoxy, then Budhism, then Muslim.

Siberian Cold Breeze
09-09-2015, 09:08 PM
She became Muslim only one time and it was last. She come from secular irreligious family with Muslim affiliation only, then Greek orthodoxy, then Budhism, then Muslim.

I wouldn't be so sure.

Most important part : Despite the drama on topik suggests ,she is alive and kicking..nothing happened to her .

sql
09-10-2015, 01:36 AM
That is idiotic that they make them change their religion and culture