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curupira
09-09-2015, 11:42 PM
Flüchtlingskrise

Die arabische Halbinsel schottet sich ab

Die Golfstaaten und Saudi-Arabien stellen sich taub gegenüber ihren muslimischen Glaubensbrüdern aus den Bürgerkriegsstaaten. Riad möchte lieber für die syrischen Flüchtlinge in Deutschland 200 Moscheen bauen.
08.09.2015, von RAINER HERMANN

Heute aber nimmt Saudi-Arabien keine Flüchtlinge aus Bürgerkriegsländern auf, schon gar nicht aus Syrien. Stattdessen berichtet die libanesische Zeitung al Diyar, Saudi-Arabien biete für die muslimischen Flüchtlinge, die in Deutschland aufgenommen werden, den Bau von 200 Moscheen an. Zwar schreibt die Zeitung, das solle in Übereinstimmung mit der Bundesregierung geschehen. Es wäre jedoch besser, würde sich Saudi-Arabien selbst der Flüchtlinge annehmen und damit seiner Führungsrolle in der „islamischen Umma“, der Gemeinschaft aller Muslime, gerecht werden.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/fluechtlingskrise/die-golfstaaten-schotten-sich-gegenueber-fluechtlingen-ab-13789932.html


Refugee crisis

The Arabian Peninsula seals off itself

The Gulf States and Saudi Arabia turn a deaf ear to their fellow Muslims from the civil war states. Riyadh would rather build 200 mosques for the Syrian refugees in Germany.

Today, however, Saudi Arabia takes no refugees from civil war countries, certainly not from Syria. Instead, says the Lebanese newspaper al Diyar, Saudi Arabia offer for the Muslim refugees who are received in Germany, the construction of 200 mosques in. Although the newspaper writes that should be done in accordance with the Federal Government. But it would be better, Saudi Arabia would accept even the refugees and thus its leadership role in the "Islamic Umma", the community of all Muslims, justice.

wvwvw
09-10-2015, 12:02 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NsUrClawnbI/TAwO8QiBUyI/AAAAAAAADN4/pR6wKmh2ZOU/s1600/IMG_7165.JPG

Wadaad
09-10-2015, 12:05 AM
I only care about the mosques...how or why they're built is no concern, I just know 1 mosque translates to about 100 converts/year

Crn Volk
09-10-2015, 03:02 AM
It'd be good if they offered to accept some refugees instead

Wadaad
09-10-2015, 03:03 AM
It'd be good if they offered to accept some refugees instead

As none are coming to your 'country' this does not concern you.

Crn Volk
09-10-2015, 03:06 AM
As none are coming to your 'country' this does not concern you.

If you mean Macedonia, they're all coming through that country. If you mean Australia, it is accepting refugees from Syria - circa 15,000

As for Saudi

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5K9nlpeGmaU/Vejoi6PmcbI/AAAAAAAAAME/K3Z5xVTyYJ0/s320/11947463_412662522263567_3742327514002698500_n.jpg

Wadaad
09-10-2015, 03:09 AM
If you mean Macedonia, they're all coming through that country. If you mean Australia, it is accepting refugees from Syria - circa 15,000

As for Saudi

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5K9nlpeGmaU/Vejoi6PmcbI/AAAAAAAAAME/K3Z5xVTyYJ0/s320/11947463_412662522263567_3742327514002698500_n.jpg

Of course I meant 'Macedonia'...Australia is obviously an asylum depot, it accepted a FYROMite like yourself, so it goes without question it will accept a few Syrians. And they are transiting through Macedonia, nobody is interested in staying there so again, this does not concern you. You find other ways to be the "Vanguard" of Europes borders, they have fences and spy drones for that now.

Crn Volk
09-10-2015, 03:28 AM
Of course I meant 'Macedonia'...Australia is obviously an asylum depot, it accepted a FYROMite like yourself, so it goes without question it will accept a few Syrians. And they are transiting through Macedonia, nobody is interested in staying there so again, this does not concern you. You find other ways to be the "Vanguard" of Europes borders, they have fences and spy drones for that now.

Yes, yes they are clamoring to get to Somalia too....

BTW, my family arrived in Australia during the White Australia policy. Somalis arrived here in the 1990s and were jeered at as muslim niggers.....

Wadaad
09-10-2015, 03:31 AM
Yes, yes they are clamoring to get to Somalia too....

BTW, my family arrived in Australia during the White Australia policy. Somalis arrived here in the 1990s and were jeered at as muslim niggers.....

"we made the cut the benchmarkoids adopted nya nyaa" gtfo balkanoid

Hydromorphone
09-10-2015, 03:32 AM
I've seen tons of articles shared on Facebook and the like whining about what's happening in Hungary and not a single one of them discusses anything like this. Sometimes the cognitive dissonance in liberal sects here in North America is astounding to witness.

Crn Volk
09-10-2015, 03:53 AM
"we made the cut the benchmarkoids adopted nya nyaa" gtfo balkanoid

how caucasoid did you look in the mirror today? were you standing at a right angle? still black skin nig nog

Wadaad
09-10-2015, 03:58 AM
how caucasoid did you look in the mirror today? were you standing at a right angle? still black skin nig nog
I know I did not look like a

Meta-Ethnicity: Slavic
Ethnicity Mакедонeц

translation: lower tier White (Slavic)...and a low class within Slavs (FYROMite).

Crn Volk
09-10-2015, 04:01 AM
I know I did not look like a

Meta-Ethnicity: Slavic
Ethnicity Mакедонeц

translation: lower tier White (Slavic)...and a low class within Slavs (FYROMite).

lol...somali = black nigger. double wammy, lowest of low on the planet. lower than chimps or gorillas

Wadaad
09-10-2015, 04:02 AM
lol...somali = black nigger. double wammy, lowest of low on the planet. lower than chimps or gorillas

as opposed to 'white nigger'? aka slav? aka you?

Crn Volk
09-10-2015, 04:09 AM
as opposed to 'white nigger'? aka slav? aka you?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/blaine1234/Photoshop%20stuff/wigga-please.gif

Atvend
09-10-2015, 04:19 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5K9nlpeGmaU/Vejoi6PmcbI/AAAAAAAAAME/K3Z5xVTyYJ0/s320/11947463_412662522263567_3742327514002698500_n.jpg

There is something strange with this map, if only I could put a finger on it. Hmmm...

Cristiano viejo
09-10-2015, 06:11 PM
And lefties here saying most of them are Christians :lol:
what pathetic.

curupira
09-10-2015, 06:20 PM
Refugee Crisis: Richard Dawkins Slams Saudi Arabia's Offer To Build 200 Mosques In Germany
The Huffington Post UK | By Kathryn Snowdon


Richard Dawkins has lambasted Saudi Arabia's "sick" offer to build 200 mosques for refugees in Germany, as the Gulf state still refuses to shelter those fleeing war-stricken Syria.

Dawkins, 74, branded the news "either a sick joke or sick insult to German generosity" on Thursday after reports emerged that the wealthy Arab state offered to build the mosques in the European country, which is expecting to take 800,000 refugees this year.

While thousands of refugees make the perilous journey across continents to European countries, Saudi Arabia and five other Gulf states have offered zero resettlement places.

Dawkins said the news was "certainly sick", adding he is "horribly afraid it might not be a joke".

The atheist, biologist and author added that the only thing that could be "more useless to refugees in Germany than 200 mosques" was 201 mosques.

Is this some kind of sick joke? It's certainly sick, but I'm horribly afraid it might not be a joke. https://t.co/6Z7sDLZerz
— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) September 10, 2015
Could anything be more useless to the refugees in Germany than 200 mosques? (Answer, 201 mosques). http://t.co/j0h4XHQZsF .
— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) September 10, 2015
Saudi contribution to refugee effort: 200 mosques in Germany. Either a sick joke or sick insult to German generosity http://t.co/j0h4XHQZsF
— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) September 10, 2015
German newspaper, The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, reported the plans to build 200 mosques, quoting Lebanese newspaper al Diyar.

Further details of how Saudi Arabia would build the 200 mosques remain unclear.

Amnesty International reported, "From Asia to Europe, large wealthy countries have turned their backs on Syrian refugees. All six Gulf countries, Russia and Japan have not offered to resettle a single refugee".

Saudi Arabia joins Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Oman and Bahrain in failing to offer any resettlement places.

The Gulf States have received mounting criticism for their "deafening" silence over the refugee crisis.

Last month, Germany's interior minister announced that the country was expecting the arrival of as many as 800,000 refugees this year - four times as many as 2014.

Germany remains the top destination for refugees in Europe, receiving 43% of all asylum applications in the 28-nation European Union.

The news was met with shock and disbelief on social media.

so Saudi Arabia's only contribution to the refugee crisis is to build 200 mosques in Germany for the refugees. Wow
— Bertie (@RobertAustin96) September 10, 2015
The Saudis have at last stepped up to the plate on the refugee crisis. NO. Not to house or feed them. But to build 200 Mosques in Germany.
— The Cuckoo Clock (@markdaventry) September 10, 2015
Instead of offering shelters, #KSA offered to build 200 mosques for the Syrian Refugees in #Germany, shame. #Syria pic.twitter.com/r8JAcDSyje
— Ahmad M. Yassine (@Lobnene_Blog) September 10, 2015
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/10/refugee-crisis-richard-dawkins-saudi-arabia-mosques-in-germany_n_8115492.html


Saudi Arabia offers Germany 200 mosques - one for every 100 refugees who arrived last weekend


Saudi Arabia has reportedly responded to the growing number of people fleeing the Middle East for western Europe – by offering to build 200 mosques in Germany.

Syria’s richer Gulf neighbours have been accused of not doing their fair share in the humanitarian crisis, with Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Oman and the UAE also keeping their doors firmly shut to asylum-seekers.

According to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, which quoted a report in the Lebanese newspaper Al Diyar, Saudi Arabia would build one mosque for every 100 refugees who entered Germany in extraordinary numbers last weekend.

It would be unfair to suggest that the Gulf Arab states have done nothing to help the estimated four million Syrians who have fled their country since the start of the conflict in 2011.

Just this week, the al Hayat newspaper reported that 500,000 Syrians had found homes in Saudi Arabia since the civil war began – as workers, not refugees.

There have also been significant contributions from rich individuals towards the upkeep of refugee camps round the Syrian border, estimated by the BBC to total around $900 million (£600 million).

But amid a history of competition between the Gulf states and Iranian-allied nations, there is a deep fear that allowing an influx of Syrian refugees could also let in Syrians loyal to Bashar al-Assad.

There also exists a more general concern about demographic change, leaving the states opposed to the idea of welcoming refugees. In the UAE, foreign nationals already outnumber citizens by more than five to one.

Back in Germany, Angela Merkel welcomed two refugee families at a home for asylum-seekers in the Berlin suburb of Spandau on Thursday.

She told reporters after the visit: “Their integration will certainly take place in part via the children, who will learn German very quickly in kindergarten. And I hope and believe that the great majority will want to learn our language very quickly.”

Whether she will welcome Saudi Arabia’s reported offer, which Al Diyar noted would “have to go through the federal authorities”, remains to be seen.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/saudi-arabia-offers-germany-200-mosques--one-for-every-100-refugees-who-arrived-last-weekend-10495082.html

Murri
09-10-2015, 06:22 PM
Could we just build some hospitals, schooling centers and libraries instead of mosques and churches?

The money spent on building such great complex buildings rather invest it into education and innovation, sick of living in the past...

Queen B
09-10-2015, 06:22 PM
Arabia should accept them instead and spent their money to accomodate them.
Problem solved.

wvwvw
09-10-2015, 06:29 PM
There is something strange with this map, if only I could put a finger on it. Hmmm...

It should be 1,000,000 million for Saudi Arabia instead of 0?

Atvend
09-10-2015, 06:38 PM
It should be 1,000,000 million for Saudi Arabia instead of 0?

heh

http://i.imgur.com/X9AtXQx.gif

curupira
09-10-2015, 06:41 PM
Norway says "no", as long as Saudi Arabia keeps forbiding churches being built in their country.


Jonas Gahr Støre will prevent Saudi Arabia to fund mosques in Norway, while it is not allowed to build churches there.

VG follows

Islam debate

Saudi officials and wealthy private individuals would build mosques for tens of millions in Norway.

It has the full right under Norwegian law on financial support to religious communities. But the million gifts there is a provison that the Norwegian authorities approve funding.

Foreign Ministry refuses not only to approve the mosque contributions. In a reply to Tawfiiq Islamic Center writes UD that it would be "paradoxical and unnatural if it was given approval to financing from sources in a country where it does not open for religious freedom."

- We could have said no, the principle does not give UD such approvals. But when we asked, we use the opportunity to add that an approval would be paradoxical given that it is a criminal offense in Saudi Arabia to establish Christian communities, says Jonas Gahr Støre told newspaper VG.

Equal treatment

State Secretary Espen Barth Eide visit Saudi Arabia today, and will take up financial support:

- I understand that many of my European colleagues have the same problem, and Norway will take the matter up in the Council of Europe, says Støre.

- Could it mean a restriction of the ability to give financial support to religious communities?

- There will be a debate parliament and government may have to take.

The answer from the Foreign Ministry is to Tawfiiq Islamic center, but Støre says that the religious community Alnor that will build mosque in Tromsø with support from a Saudi Arabian businessman, will have an identical response.

- We have freedom of religion

Last week, the newspaper Nordlys written a series of articles about Alnor with spreads as "Muslim leader in Tromsø linked to terror network" and "Islamic fundamentalists in Saudi Arabia sponsoring mosque in Tromsø."

- Is that the Saudi direction of Islam, Wahabism, which is too controversial in Norway?

- I have noticed that the Saudi direction has a profile view of Islam, but I will not be the judge of what schools or directions of Islam establishing themselves in Norway. We have freedom of religion. This is about the laws that exist in the country where the money comes from, says Støre told newspaper VG.

Board of Tawfiiq Islamic center would not mention the matter, or to give any comments, said attorney Shazad Nazir on behalf of the congregation.
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/islam-debatten/nekter-aa-godkjenne-moskemillioner/a/10041746/
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Norway: No Saudi mosques, as long as there's no freedom of religion in Saudi-Arabia

The Saudi Arabian government and wealthy Saudi individuals want to build mosques in Norway for tens of millions. They are legally entitled to do so, according to Norwegian law for financially supporting religious communities, but the large sum means that the government will have to approve the financial support.

The foreign office is not only refusing to approve the funding. In a response to the Tawfiiq Islamic Center, the ministry wrote that it would be 'a paradox and unnatural to approve funding from sources in a country which is not open to religious freedom."

The Norwegian Minister of Foreign Affairs Jonas Gahr Støre told VG: "We could have just said no, in principal the ministry doesn't approve such things. But when we were first asked, we used the opportunity to add that an approval would be paradoxical as long as it's a crime to establish a Christian community in Saudi Arabia."

State Secretary Espen Barth Eide is visiting Saudi-Arabia today and will take up the issue.

"I see that many of my European colleagues have the same problem, and Norway will take up the issue in the Council of Europe," says Støre.

Q: Might this mean a restriction on the option of funding a faith community?

A: That is a debate which the parliament and government will eventually take up.

The response from the ministry is to the Tawfiiq Islamic Center, but Støre says that the Alnor faith society, which also wants to build a mosque in Tromsø with funding from a Saudi Arabian businessman, will get a similar answer.

Insuperable
09-11-2015, 05:40 AM
I only care about the mosques...how or why they're built is no concern, I just know 1 mosque translates to about 100 converts/year

Since you are a pisslamic Somalian who has nothing valuable to contribute to this European cultural community forum you don't have to provoke.

XenophobicPrussian
09-11-2015, 06:02 AM
Don't just bash the Saudis, the refugees themselves probably want, no, -need- these places of worship, even after just escaping war. They'll go bonkers without them. These are the types of people naive Europeans consider "equal humans".

Cristiano viejo
09-11-2015, 11:36 AM
And lefties here saying most of them are Christians :lol:
what pathetic.

Learning_Genetics
09-11-2015, 12:03 PM
Instead of spending money to build mosques the money should be used for churches and missionary work to convert them to Christianity. Afterall Germany is a Christian country.

It is possible that many would be attracted to Christianity if it was properly explained to them.

XenophobicPrussian
09-11-2015, 02:45 PM
Norwegians still got balls.
No they don't, they're taking in refugees themselves and of course have a lot of legal immigration, even when they're outside the EU. No balls.


Instead of spending money to build mosques the money should be used for churches and missionary work to convert them to Christianity. Afterall Germany is a Christian country.

It is possible that many would be attracted to Christianity if it was properly explained to them.
lol.... The money should be spent on boats/trains to send them back and on Richard Dawkins' reading material for the ride.

King Niko
09-11-2015, 02:47 PM
Hopefully they build more, My family who is from Damascus is in Germany right now, and they experience harsh racism from Germans.

Quite sad.

King Niko
09-11-2015, 02:55 PM
Cuck'd

Knowing germany they'll probably insist on building an extra 200

no, I was thinkin round 1000

Mosque need to be on every damn block...

europe needs to go through toleration camp.

curupira
09-11-2015, 03:00 PM
no, I was thinkin round 1000

Mosque need to be on every damn block...

europe needs to go through toleration camp.

What about churches in Saudi Arabia?

King Niko
09-11-2015, 03:04 PM
What about churches in Saudi Arabia?

Saudi Arabia is not a multi-cultural country,

Whilst Germany is,

Saudi-Arabia did not push for globalization of western culture,

the west did.

So the west needs to build Mosque not Saudi Arabia building Churches.

curupira
09-11-2015, 03:08 PM
Saudi Arabia is not a multi-cultural country, Whilst Germany is, Saudi-Arabia did not push for globalization of western culture, the west did. So the west needs to build Mosque not Saudi Arabia building Churches.

That's not tolerance at all. That's invoking tolerance when it suits you. To be fair, the Saudi Arabian regime which is financing the building of mosques in Europe should allow churches to be built in Saudi Arabia.

Kazbolat
09-11-2015, 03:11 PM
As I always say, Saudis and Gulf Arabs in general are filthy animals.

King Niko
09-11-2015, 03:12 PM
That's not tolerance at all. That's invoking tolerance when it suits you. To be fair, the Saudi Arabian regime which is financing the building of mosques in Europe should allow churches to be built in Saudi Arabia.

so build churches no one will use hmmm...

Never said Saudi-Arabia was 100% tolerant,

but they are not multi-cultural like Germany

Germany you can find asians, africans, americans, all types of europeans, etc.

Saudi Arabia you find mostly Arabs...

curupira
09-11-2015, 03:17 PM
so build churches no one will use hmmm...Never said Saudi-Arabia was 100% tolerant,but they are not multi-cultural like GermanyGermany you can find asians, africans, americans, all types of europeans, etc.Saudi Arabia you find mostly Arabs...

It is not like Saudi Arabia being 90% ot 100% tolerant. It is 0% tolerant when it comes to other faiths. And at the same time they want to push Islam down the throat of the Germans. Of course there are people from all over the world in Saudi Arabia. It is much more mixed ethnically than Germany. Particularly in Mecca and the west coast of Saudi Arabia, which have received religious pilgrims from all over the world for centuries. Germany is very predominantly largely ethnic German though and Christian.


The CIA Factbook estimated that as of 2013 foreign nationals living in Saudi Arabia made up about 21% of the population.[16] Other sources report differing estimates.[17] Indian: 1.3 million, Pakistani: 1.5 million,[18] Egyptian: 900,000, Yemeni: 800,000, Bangladeshi: 500,000, Filipino: 500,000, Jordanian/Palestinian: 260,000, Indonesian: 250,000, Sri Lankan: 350,000, Sudanese: 250,000, Syrian: 100,000 and Turkish: 100,000.[19] There are around 100,000 Westerners in Saudi Arabia, most of whom live in compounds or gated communities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Saudi_Arabia#Ethnic_groups

King Niko
09-11-2015, 03:21 PM
It is not like Saudi Arabia being 90% ot 100% tolerant. It is 0% tolerant when it comes to other faiths. And at the same time they want to push Islam down the throat of the Germans. Of course there are people from all over the world in Saudi Arabia. It is much more mixed ethnically than Germany. Particularly in Mecca and the west coast of Saudi Arabia, which have received religious pilgrims from all over the world for centuries. Germany is very predominantly largely ethnic German though and Christian.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Saudi_Arabia#Ethnic_groups


You have no clue what you are talking about, really you do not.

Saudi Arabia offers freedom of religion, but as a citizen yes you need to be Muslim.

And by diverse you mean North African, Arabian peninsula, East Asia?

Go to Germany...

only 80% of Germany is Germans, and that is by legal people and by people claiming "German" ancestry, I know half Germans who claim full german.

Saudi Arabia is diverse but the people all come from the same culture.

Nobody is shoving Islam down the Germans throats.

Germany is a capitalist country, anyone can build Mosque, but its a problem now because Saudi Arabia is?

Grow up.

curupira
09-11-2015, 03:29 PM
Saudi Arabia offers freedom of religion, but as a citizen yes you need to be Muslim.

Churches cannot be built in Saudi Arabia. And yet they want to build mosques in Germany and elsewhere in Europe.


Saudi Arabia allows Christians to enter the country as foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship within private homes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Saudi_Arabia
http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2008/108492.htm


The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is an Islamic theocratic monarchy in which Sunni Islam is the official state religion and non-Muslims are not allowed to hold Saudi citizenship.[1] Children born to Muslim fathers are by law deemed Muslim, and conversion from Islam to another religion is considered apostasy and punishable by death. Blasphemy against Sunni Islam is also punishable by death, but the more common penalty is a long prison sentence. There have been no confirmed reports of executions for either apostasy or blasphemy in recent years.[2]

Religious freedom is virtually non-existent.[3] The Government does not provide legal recognition or protection for freedom of religion, and it is severely restricted in practice. As a matter of policy, the Government guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all, including non-Muslims who gather in homes for religious practice; however, this right is not always respected in practice and is not defined in law.

The Saudi Mutaween (Arabic: مطوعين), or Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (i.e., the religious police) enforces the prohibition on the public practice of non-Muslim religions. Sharia applies to all people inside Saudi Arabia, regardless of religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_Arabia

curupira
09-11-2015, 03:30 PM
Germany is a capitalist country, anyone can build Mosque, but its a problem now because Saudi Arabia is?

Germany is being tolerant, and yet you said they should go through "tolerant camp". Saudi Arabia should go, they are the intolerants towards other people's faiths.

Queen B
09-11-2015, 03:31 PM
Saudi Arabia should take them, and let European countries decide what they will do or not do with THEIR countries.

Alessio
09-11-2015, 03:36 PM
They have a dangerous agenda and will exploit their chances when they see a gap in Germany or other Western countries.

King Niko
09-11-2015, 03:45 PM
Churches cannot be built in Saudi Arabia. And yet they want to build mosques in Germany and elsewhere in Europe.

Who cares????? What impact does this have on you? Please tell me how detrimental it is on your life that not being able to build churches in Saudi Arabia is such a harsh burden for you?

And I am Eastern Orthodox? I already said you can not have citizenship and it is pretty obvious you can not practice faith openly.

Once you go to Saudi Arabia talk about it then. If you have not been, or even to at least Germany you have no place to say what is right or wrong.



Germany is being tolerant, and yet you said they should go through "tolerant camp". Saudi Arabia should go, they are the intolerants towards other people's faiths.

I lived in Dubai and trickled over to Saudi Arabia, they were never intolerant too me.

Go to Germany say, "I am Muslim" see the response you get.

Arhat
09-11-2015, 03:50 PM
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/fluechtlingskrise/die-golfstaaten-schotten-sich-gegenueber-fluechtlingen-ab-13789932.html

Just bomb Saudi Arabia. They are almost worse than IS because they are trying to spread Wahhabism everywhere in the world. Saudi Arabia is a tumor and need to be exterminated from the world map.

curupira
09-11-2015, 03:57 PM
Who cares????? What impact does this have on you? Please tell me how detrimental it is on your life that not being able to build churches in Saudi Arabia is such a harsh burden for you?

Don't complain then if a rightwing European government outlaws mosques. Intolerance dealt with intolerance. I'm following these events since they have world wide impact. Trust me, if Europe becomes muslim, this will have deep impact in the whole world. Europe went through the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. The church was separated from the government. And scientific pursuits are not constrained by religion as they are in the Islamic world. One can study evolution, big bang, etc, without having to worry what a religious leader will say or rule about it. Women can wear bikinis without having to worry about what a religious leader will think about it. Changing that would have impact, as I said.

King Niko
09-11-2015, 04:00 PM
Don't complain then if a rightwing European government outlaws mosques. Intolerance dealt with intolerance. I'm following these events since they have world wide impact. Trust me, if Europe becomes muslim, this will have deep impact in the whole world. Europe went through the Renaissance and the Enlightment. The church was separated from the government. And scientific pursuits are not constrained by religion as they are in the Islamic world. One can study evolution, big bang, etc, without having to worry what a religious leader will say or rule about it. Changing that would have impact, as I said.

Do I care?

Europe is dead to me.


Ever since the EU was created, I have only had hate for the entire continent besides certain countries,

Until the EU dissolves, I want them slowly to be destroyed.

I am Pro-European, but I am not going to neglect facts, The EU is terrorism,

and I will not complain if they outlaw Mosque, just shows how weak they really are in this world and how they have no control.

I want them too, it will only make my reasoning only that much more righteous.

abcd123
09-11-2015, 04:00 PM
The place of mosques and these people is in the Middle East,North Africa,South Asia and whatever place they came from.Europe should build mosques with its own money when christian churches are built in the Middle East by muslims.Period.

Alessio
09-12-2015, 01:58 AM
Saudi Arabia in a nutshell:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JONeTC9Mzk