Germany reintroduces border controls & suspend all trains from- and to Austria

[Leliana]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3232744/We-t-German-authorities-call-urgent-action-migrant-crisis-locals-say-Munich-brink-humanitarian-disaster.html


German politicians have called for urgent action on the migrant crisis as the country today halted all trains from Austria due to an overwhelming influx of refugees.

This evening Germany reinstated 'temporary' but indefinite controls at its borders with Austria as Europe's top economy struggles to cope with a record influx of refugees.

The move marks a dramatic shift away from the current abolishment of passport checks throughout Europe's Schengen zone.

German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said: 'At this moment Germany is temporarily introducing border controls again along [the EU's] internal borders. The focus will be on the border to Austria at first. 'The aim of these measures is to limit the current inflows to Germany and to return to orderly procedures when people enter the country.

Mr de Maiziere added: 'This step has become necessary. The great readiness to help that Germany has shown in recent weeks... must not be overstretched.'

The Interior Minister did not specify how long the border controls would remain in place or give details of exactly how incoming migrants would be handled. He said there could be disruption to rail travel. Most migrants have been arriving by train.

...

It is not yet clear exactly what the temporary measures include, but the move comes as German authorities have warned they are at 'the limit' in coping with the migrant crisis, with locals claiming Munich is on the brink of collapse.

German newspaper Bild cited security sources as saying the state government in Bavaria had asked the federal police to help deal with the task. The newspaper said the federal police would send 2,100 officers to Bavaria to help it secure its borders.
...


Now the insanity of our treacherous government led by Merkel has hit reality! That she de facto allowed the mass exodus of refugees into Germany who were stopped at the Hungarian border last week could be called 'high treason' and the opening of Pandora's box. She has been put under massive pressure by several internal ministers of the German states who openly accused Merkel of sheer incompetence since then.

The borders will be controlled for an indefinite amount of time, and the Internal Minister made very clear that Dublin II-agreement is still in place, which means that the EU countries where the refugees first hit EU soil are solely responsible for the asylum seekers. He said that Germany isn't responsible for the vast majority of the asylum seekers who cross the German borders. These asylum seekers have crossed more than one EU countries before.

The public opinion here in Germany and Austria is boiling. The difference between the opinions of the leading politicians & the steered mass media (who sent pro-refugee propaganda 24/7!!!) and the common public is larger than ever! So many people are enraged, it's awesome. Merkel had to change her opinion in less than 36 hours.

[Unome]

It's time to close Germany's borders. It's been long enough under oppressive rule, enough price has been paid.

[Jarla87]

Leliana,

they are not awakening. It's mere symbolism to calm down the voting cattle. Nothing more.
Just another symbolic act, but not real Action to handle the Problem.
As Long as they give the People a surficial satisfaction (because they recognized the trend) and as Long as they provide them with bread and games they got their votes and can go on with their destructive policy.
That's all.

Just my humble opinion.
:)

[Leliana]

Leliana,

they are not awakening. It's mere symbolism to calm down the voting cattle. Nothing more.
Just another symbolic act, but not real Action to handle the Problem.
As Long as they give the People a surficial satisfaction (because they recognized the trend) and as Long as they provide them with bread and games they got their votes and can go on with their destructive policy.
That's all.

Just my humble opinion.
:)
That's true, of course. It's just a tiny symbol. But I expect the situation to become more desolate, border controls or not, and then the mass media propagandists and the treacherous Bundestag parties will face enormous resistance.

They have overdone it. Sie haben mit ihrer willkommensbesoffenen Toleranztrottelei den Bogen sehr stark überspannt, und ich hoffe diese Gestalten werden sich dafür irgendwann zur Rechenschaft ziehen lassen müssen!

[alb0zfinest]

Too bad, I was hoping Germany would take in more refugees. :D

[Rugevit]

Now the insanity of our treacherous government led by Merkel has hit reality

Look at the positive side of things. Lots of good looking brunettes in your country. ;)

[Ardell]

Look at the positive side of things. Lots of good looking brunettes in your country. ;)

All the migrants are males... there will be lots of ninjas and snackbars, that's it.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

http://oi59.tinypic.com/200p7k1.jpg
:D

[Óttar]

Grant all the Yezidis and Mandaeans asylum. No one else.

[Leliana]

http://oi59.tinypic.com/200p7k1.jpg
:D
We Germans are known as people who are prone to extreme views and solutions. Now imagine what happens when the pro-refugee hype of some changes to the other extreme...

:eek:

And believe me, almost all people I know having boiling blood and are full of disgust for the economic refugees who think they can lay down rules in our own country!


Look at the positive side of things. Lots of good looking brunettes in your country. ;)

What Europe needs the least are fugly Muslim Arabs with oily hair or tribesmen of Wadaad's arse-of-the-world region full of evolutionary left-behinds.

[Visage pâle]

Merkel wants to force eastern europeans countries to accept migrants.

[jackrussell]

We Germans are known as people who are prone to extreme views and solutions. Now imagine what happens when the pro-refugee hype of some changes to the other extreme...

:eek:

yeah sunshine , do remind us again how did you guys kill the Jews ?

:eek: indeed , talk about shooting your own foot .


[quote]

What Europe needs the least are fugly Muslim Arabs with oily hair or tribesmen of Wadaad's arse-of-the-world junkyard region.


Karma is a bitch , ain't it ?

Lets hope none of your children would fall in love with an Arab or African refugee or even better a hairy islamic Kurd .
ha ha ha

:)

[Leliana]

Merkel wants to force eastern europeans countries to accept migrants.

Merkel is a treacherous, vile NWOist. She doesn't speak for the normal German on the street. Most people I know applaud the Poles, Czechs, Hungarians and Slovaks who decided to not take any or only very less asylum seekers. :) We are envious of Eastern European pride in this case.

I hope the governments of the Slavic, Eastern European EU countries continue to resist and don't accept asylum seekers from Near East of Africa.

I'm sorry that our German government is such a burden to the rest of Europe. But 70 years of re-education and political propaganda plus the fact that most of our leading politicians are bought, corrupt NWOs & transatlantic lapdogs have left an impact.

[Rugevit]

What Europe needs the least are fugly Muslim Arabs with oily hair or tribesmen of Wadaad's arse-of-the-world region full of evolutionary left-behinds.

But if you wash, groom and dress them in new clothes ...

[Shah-Jehan]

Merkel is a treacherous, vile NWOist. She doesn't speak for the normal German on the street. Most people I know applaud the Poles, Czechs, Hungarians and Slovaks who decided to not take any or only very less asylum seekers. :) We are envious of Eastern European pride in this case.

I hope the governments of the Slavic, Eastern European EU countries continue to resist and don't accept asylum seekers from Near East of Africa.

True
http://www.euractiv.com/sites/default/files/styles/involucra_large/public/refugees_welcome_berlin.jpg?itok=Irvcckm-
http://ukbuzz.wordpress.eurosport.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/08/CNp3zVQWgAAfXW6-1170x658.jpg
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[Leliana]

True

Most of this people are members of political youth organizations, leftist students, relicts of the 68' movement or other 'do-gooder' movements. That's not the majority, that are not the people who go to work 8 hours a day to produce the tax income! That's why such brainwashed multi-culti applauders are visible on the street in daytime (and such photos are heavily used for placement in news coverage and media publishing -> suggestive coverage = propaganda!) whilst the others are working in their jobs and have no time to protest as they are busy to maintain their family and living.

[Charles Bronson]

http://oi59.tinypic.com/200p7k1.jpg


:icon_smile:

[StonyArabia]

Not my problem

[SKYNET]

http://oi59.tinypic.com/200p7k1.jpg
:D




it's so real

http://blog.bitovi.com/images/zombie-apocolypse/zombies.png

[щрбл]

If Merkel had virtually some balls, she could force the Greeks to push the immigrants back to the Turkish shores in exchange of allowing them to live a little bit longer with their euros. (And force Bulgaria to finish the damned fence on the border while she's at it.)

[Rugevit]

It's surreal watching European news at the moment. But if you wreck the country or support foreign policies of the country that instigates civil war or bombs another country, then you bear the consequences. It's been in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and many other countries. It won't be be any different with Syria. If in future USA will do something to destabilise Iran, then Iranian refugees will be going in Europe too. Leliana As much as you don't like Merkel handling refugee issue, there is no way to escape them. Any other German leader will be handling the problem similarly. The decision has been made already. The best way to handle the issue of refugees is to find a better solution to negotiate with non cooperating governments. Then there won't be refugees fleeing their homes en-masses.

[Siberyak]

Incredible How the EU has done absolutely nothing to help seal the Greek/Macedonian border. Instead of stopping the migrants at it source the EU claims other EU members have to share the burden. Bullshit

[Swedenborg]

We Germans are known as people who are prone to extreme views and solutions. Now imagine what happens when the pro-refugee hype of some changes to the other extreme...


Yea, Sweden is the same. And it's crazy how fast it can change. In 1965 our state minister praised Sweden for being so homogenous, "We Swedes live in a so infinitely happier situation. The population in our country is homogeneous, not just according to race but also in many other aspects." - Tage Erlander.
10 years later, in 1975, the parliament voted for Sweden to become a multicultural nation and the politicians started to praise diversity instead.

I made a thread about it here: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?183163-The-Swedish-political-pendulum

[Arhat]

It's surreal watching European news at the moment. But if you wreck the country or support foreign policies of the country that instigates civil war or bombs another country, then you bear the consequences. It's been in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and many other countries. It won't be be any different with Syria. If in future USA will do something to destabilise Iran, then Iranian refugees will be going in Europe too. Leliana As much as you don't like Merkel handling refugee issue, there is no way to escape them. Any other German leader will be handling the problem similarly. The decision has been made already. The best way to handle the issue of refugees is to find a better solution to negotiate with non cooperating governments. Then there won't be refugees fleeing their homes en-masses.

The problem is not that Germany is taking refugees but which kind of refugees they are allowing to stay here. Many of them are either Romani people from the Balkan which just want to live in Germany because of social welfare and they rarely work. Many other of this refugees are Arabs, who in many cases have an islamistic or criminal background. They are fleeing from Assad and bring islamistic ideology to Germany. Christian Arabs are often threatened by them in refugee camps and some of them openly admit sympathy for IS . They are really annoying and lazy people, who hate anything western/german but want to enjoy western luxuries in the best case payed by the German state for them. Iranians are not a problem and most other refugees also as long as they are not strict muslims, muslim arabs, somali or romani people.

[Rugevit]

The problem is not that Germany is taking refugees but which kind of refugees they are allowing to stay here. Many of them are either Romani people from the Balkan which just want to live in Germany because of social welfare and they rarely work. Many other of this refugees are Arabs, who in many cases have an islamist or criminal background. They are fleeing from Assad and bring islamistic ideology to Germany. Christian Arabs are often threatened by them in refugee camps and some of them openly admit sympathy for IS . They are really annoying and lazy people, who hate anything western/german but want to enjoy western luxuries in the best case payed by the German state for them. Iranians are not a problem and most other refugees also as long as they are not strict muslims, muslim arabs, somali or romani people.

I can understand that. There isn't anything new about this. Scum has always been sneaking in.

[Graham]

Looks more like a panic attack caused by the stretched & crowded infrastructure that even Germany can't cope with. If the Germans can't cope, no one else could.

Can see more trouble ahead at Calais.

[Austo]

We all knew that this would happen sooner or later, im surprised it happened so fast.

So now they are all stuck in small austria.

[abcd123]

Why are they letting all these people in is blowing my mind.

[Siberyak]

We all knew that this would happen sooner or later, im surprised it happened so fast.

So now they are all stuck in small austria.

How do Austrians feel about this?

[Austo]

How do Austrians feel about this?

I am thrilled :thumbs up

[Hydromorphone]

People who are scum strive on chaos. There is nothing more chaotic than this situation. We are seeing economic migrants from multiple countries run in. We're seeing people picture themselves happily on their iPhones after they are in Germany.

Why are we helping people who can afford iPhones? Merkel has a new plan to give them 6 gigs of free roaming data now with every citizenship?

No, no... As I watch from over the Atlantic on my own news I can't help but get the impression of how seemingly hopeless it is for this situation. And there will be many more situations like it. As much as you can have a bleeding heart for the legitimate people who have been hurt, you need to be realisitic. Some leftists live in a fantasy land, where you can take millions into your country and it's all "OK", nobody will be upset, no ethnic tension... It's "OK!" Each person costing thousands upon thousands of dollars, a lost investment... It's "OK!" We'll get the money back somehow, how do I know, because everything is and always will be "OK!"

It sounds stupid, but I can't imagine how anyone would support those views and not think like that. There's no practicality to it. Germany has already seen what happens when you take in a "small" group of a few hundred thousand and they swelled to become nearly 4 - 5 million by this present day. As nice as it is to act like we can save the world and it's all okay because this is an hour and a half movie and when the credits roll we're done and everything is just hunky dory is retarded. We cannot save the world - other than that, it destroys social cohesion. Leftists will also say "It doesn't matter, it's 2015, we shouldn't be racist!" and while that is a kind and lofty goal, it doesn't fucking matter in reality. People are racist, people like living with other people who look like them and share the same values. Even if I was personally the most left transgender black women, if I had any logic I'd realize we cannot just settle half a million like it's nothing and everyone will be okay with it, as if it won't cause serious social issues in the future. It's sad to see the dead baby, but what, that's supposed to make me forget that people from a different ethnic, social, cultural, and religious background are settling in these countries to a huge cost to the taxpayer? Meanwhile, there is not a peep from any other country that actually shares any sort of value with the refugees - because they realize you cannot just settle people like that. Or they simply don't care, why would they when there is no serious pressure on them to accept?

Sometimes I wonder why Hungary cares. There are other European groups, walk up to a policeman, pay him some money, and they'll escort you to the borders of these EU countries. So why is Hungary caring so much? Everybody goes there to get on a train to Germany, it's not on them to build a wall and amass their police to try and get things straight. They could just let the trains go and all the people are gone, because clearly Germanys politicians don't really care. Hungary is scrambling to try and control this, while Germany is telling the people 'come here, it's fine', so it won't stop until Germany says fucking stop, and Hungary is not equipped to deal with thousands daily for months on end. I find it admirable there are still people that actually do care.

It's a little bit funny because people tend to see me as a very calm, non vitriolic person. I value harmony over all else. But the thing about this crisis is simply that settling these people all over Europe will not cause harmony, will not ease what is happening in these war torn countries, and is not harmonic to the europeans living in these lands. There are other solutions - we're just making shit up as we go and improvising and saying the first thing we can think of which is 'come settle here now!' without thinking of the effects this will have in 2050 when these children have grown, when the wars in the world have not yet ended, when Americans and Germans and French and British have shrunk to near minorities in their own countries, when the effects of a bloated welfare state balloon, when statements like 'it's a post racial world guys, it's 2015!!!' no longer hold water because it's 2050 now and there's significant ethnic tension waiting to boil over all over parts of the world. The tension we see in the U.S.A is not likely to blow over easily without any sort of solution, and so far they've just been humdruming by, no changes to the police force, social policy, Trump has not been less divisive for Americans than Obama has.

Whatever, I'm rambling. Europe as a whole is not one big refugee camp. There is nothing logical you can tell me that justifies the settling of what will become, and already has become tens of millions over time. Europe are not newly founded states like Australia and Canada, they have their indigenous population they should be looking out for, but aren't. The Japanese would tell you to fuck off right to your face if you tried to pressure their government to settle 500,000 people. As much as I love harmony and my fellow man we need to inject some reality into this situation, into this debate. There are better solutions, it's just nobody wants to wait for someone to come up with them because 'dead babies, sad stories, reporter kicked some lady - import these 500,000 people now!'

[Austo]

How do Austrians feel about this?

Most people dont want them, and think its already too much, and Faymann keeps calling for more.

Its like leliana said, the people are angry, and if they continue that way something will happen for sure.

[Leliana]

This is the main reason for the German border controls: The Prime minister of Germany's largest state, Bavaria, has openly critisized Merkel's decision to allow all refugees to enter and stay in a very harsh way.

Attention: The recent video of Bavaria's Prime minister is also interesting for members who can't understand German language! Why?

Try to focus on facial expressions, gestures and the intonation of the interview! This man is in an emotional outrage that he can barely cover. He tries to talk calmly and silent, but it's obvious that he knows more that he has to- or must hide (for now). He seems very afraid and uncomforable, bordering anxiety. He gives the impression of someone who knows that the shit has hit the fan, or that something dramatic is imminent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L02HOI4Qs0

Btw, he's saying that Merkel has made a huge mistake, that the consequences are inevitable and are almost impossible to be turned back, and that something must happen now or there could be a situation of severe crisis.

[Peterski]

We Germans are known as people who are prone to extreme views and solutions. Now imagine what happens when the pro-refugee hype of some changes to the other extreme...

Well, aren't you already housing refugees in KZ Buchenwald ???: :rolleyes:

"Germany is housing asylum seekers in a former Nazi concentration camp, the Mail Online reported":

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.675732

I'm sure that beautiful German women are awaiting them there: :biggrin:

http://papilot3.mykmyk.pl/img/660/0/ilse-koch-42050196.jpg

[B01AB20]

They are bombing spanish people with the most leftist, 'humanitarian' and self-genocidal propaganda from absolutely all newspapers, TV, radios etc 24hours 7 days a week.
Poor refugees!!, they're suffering so much!!, Hungary's govern and police are so racist and facist!!

We MUST do all we can in order to relieve the pain and suffering from the poor pooooor refugees! We must give them our money and blood!, we must take in millions of refugees if we want to consider ourselves as human beings!!!

and of course the minimal criticism to this way of thinking is inmediately vilified and condemned by all the fucking mass-media.

Firstly spanish government accepted to take in 2000 syrian refugees more or less, but since idiot Merkel opened her arms to all refugees who could reach Germany, the 'public (or better the published) opinion and Merkel policy forced goverment to accept 25000!!... by now.
But I doubt this stops here, european goverments and EU have taken this new moor invasion in form of refugees and they have converted it into a sort of 'humanitarian contest', and at this pace of humanitarism we should simply die to leave room and resources in our countries for the poor poooor refugees.

[jackrussell]

Come Leiana , time to put your bow and arrow to good use ; go hunt some auslanders , give everyone a reason to be neutral to the the real plight of Alamanians.

:)

[Peterski]

We Germans are known as people who are prone to extreme views and solutions.

Well, Hitler and the Nazis did not kill a single Arab or Muslim. They actually formed Muslim SS divisions.

They just killed fellow Christian and Jewish Europeans, preparing the ground for the current wave of Non-European immigration.

If the Nazis never raised to power imagine how better off Europe would now have been demographically.

[Hydromorphone]

This is the main reason for the German border controls: The Prime minister of Germany's largest state, Bavaria, has openly critisized Merkel's decision to allow all refugees to enter and stay in a very harsh way.

Attention: The recent video of Bavaria's Prime minister is also interesting for members who can't understand German language! Why?

Try to focus on facial expressions, gestures and the intonation of the interview! This man is in an emotional outrage that he can barely cover. He tries to talk calmly and silent, but it's obvious that he knows more that he has to- or must hide (for now). He seems very afraid and uncomforable, bordering anxiety. He gives the impression of someone who knows that the shit has hit the fan, or that something dramatic is imminent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L02HOI4Qs0

Btw, he's saying that Merkel has made a huge mistake, that the consequences are inevitable and are almost impossible to be turned back, and that something must happen now or there could be a situation of severe crisis.

There will most certainly be a crisis in Germany itself if something is not done. But there needs to be more from the politicians in Germany I guess before you can stem the tide. The only way Hungary will be able to manage stopping the flow of migrants is if something concrete is settled in Germany. If migrants understand that there is no free citizenship or food or money, they won't come. A fence and a stretched thin Hungarian police force is not liable to stop everyone. If this keeps going for a few more months we may see upwards of a million or more 'refugees' seeking Asylum in various EU states. It's obvious at this point they are a majority of economic migrants. Why else would they drown trying to get to Italy or other places, or through Hungary, when many come from Turkey? Turkey has no war, it is quite puzzling. No, they are not just seeking to live, they're seeking to live comfortably in countries they know will support them for a long time with no real effort on their part other than a month of shitty travel, a quick 'conversion' to Christianity, and then many years of nice living in a welfare state. If Germany sends a clear message they will not accept any more, Hungary will be able to stem the tide, boats will be turned back before they reach Italy and other states, and this whole thing will end. The refugees will be forced to be accepted in other countries, the political pressure needs to be shifted away from us and over to the actual people with which the refugees actually share an ethnicity or religion or social values. But they know these Christian countries will treat them better than the Islamic ones. That's why they don't stop, that's why no matter what really happens they won't ever stop. It's not a matter of 'accept these people, no more will come'. No, accepting so many sends a message that it's a free for all, hop the fence to the finish line and you'll be okay. We need stronger leadership from the EU but we are not likely to get it.

A very sad state for the average German, Hungarian, Austrian, anyone else dealing with this crisis. The bulk of accepting foreign migrants has unreasonably been placed on us because nobody else wants them and only politicians are suicidal and stupid enough to accept this for what it is.

[alb0zfinest]

This is the main reason for the German border controls: The Prime minister of Germany's largest state, Bavaria, has openly critisized Merkel's decision to allow all refugees to enter and stay in a very harsh way.

Attention: The recent video of Bavaria's Prime minister is also interesting for members who can't understand German language! Why?

Try to focus on facial expressions, gestures and the intonation of the interview! This man is in an emotional outrage that he can barely cover. He tries to talk calmly and silent, but it's obvious that he knows more that he has to- or must hide (for now). He seems very afraid and uncomforable, bordering anxiety. He gives the impression of someone who knows that the shit has hit the fan, or that something dramatic is imminent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L02HOI4Qs0

Btw, he's saying that Merkel has made a huge mistake, that the consequences are inevitable and are almost impossible to be turned back, and that something must happen now or there could be a situation of severe crisis.
Here he is with a "dirty Muslim", what a traitor :D
https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12015088_10153210080281523_2087156474565771574_o.j pg

[Katil Georgi]

Here he is with a "dirty Muslim", what a traitor :D
https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12015088_10153210080281523_2087156474565771574_o.j pg
Isn't Edi Rama chatolic ?

[alb0zfinest]

Isn't Edi Rama chatolic ?

Shh don't tell her that. Fuck man, I was trying to troll her :D

[Katil Georgi]

Instead germans to rebuild their border , detonate the GDR junk and american colobrationist Merkel .
Just let us to militarize the turkish border .
http://e-vestnik.bg/imgs/graniza09/Granichar09-1.jpg

[Katil Georgi]

Shh don't tell her that. Fuck man, I was trying to troll her :D
OOPS!:taped-shut:
Wait , isn't he socialist ?!?!
Damm , Enver Hoxha 2 . :laugh2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqtv34fXdog

[Peterski]

Kurdish women bravely fight against ISIS:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COyCRMQWcAEW64D.jpg

Meanwhile who is trying to flee to Europe?:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COyCROwWcAAWtvq.jpg

I see 1 woman and 1 child in this crowd...

[alb0zfinest]

OOPS!:taped-shut:
Wait , isn't he socialist ?!?!
Damm , Enver Hoxha 2 . :laugh2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqtv34fXdog

He describes himself as a Socialist, but according to his policies he is really just a Democratic Socialist.

Nigguh a documentary of gypsies in Albania collecting garbage, is that all you got?

[Alessio]

Kurdish women bravely fight against ISIS:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COyCRMQWcAEW64D.jpg

Meanwhile who is trying to flee to Europe?:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COyCROwWcAAWtvq.jpg

I see 1 woman and 1 child in this crowd...

Before the introduction of Islam, Syria had the first metropolitan area's in the Middle East and was a proud developed Christian nation with a superior culture.

[Katil Georgi]

He describes himself as a Socialist, but according to his policies he is really just a Democratic Socialist.

Nigguh a documentary of gypsies in Albania collecting garbage, is that all you got?
I just watch it for good morning .


Before the introduction of Islam, Syria had the first metropolitan area's in the Middle East and was a proud developed Christian nation with a superior culture.
Lebanon also .

[Rugevit]

Not really. A huge wall could be built on the border with Turkey and the seas mined. Also, any "refugee" crossing should be put under forced labor to compensate for the food and accomodation received. You'd see how many would try to cross after that.

Wall is not a solution, as there are many ways to sneak in. What should be done is to eliminate the cause. And the cause is wrecking the countries from Libya to Iraq.

[Hydromorphone]

Wall is not a solution, as there are many ways to sneak in. What should be done is to eliminate the cause. And the cause is wrecking the countries from Libya to Iraq.

The best way is to both eliminate that, as well as have stronger politicians who make it clear that they will not give citizenship or welfare to people. If people know they won't get a free ride, they will stop.

Although a lot of violence is borne out of the cold war, American and Soviet intervention in the middle east. It is impossible to erase that, or the legacy that followed including the rise of multiple violent islamic groups which wage war across the ME. There likely will always be displaced peoples for a long while.

[Wadaad]

This is only a "TEMPORARY" move. It is a German ploy to pressure the lesser EU states. The refugees at the border should just bide their time, Germany and beyond is still in their horizon.

[Rugevit]

The best way is to both eliminate that, as well as have stronger politicians who make it clear that they will not give citizenship or welfare to people. If people know they won't get a free ride, they will stop.

Although a lot of violence is borne out of the cold war, American and Soviet intervention in the middle east. It is impossible to erase that, or the legacy that followed including the rise of multiple violent islamic groups which wage war across the ME. There likely will always be displaced peoples for a long while.

I am not aware of Soviets meddling in the middle causing military conflicts. There was a campaign in Afghanistan, but not in the middle east. If anything Soviets and Russia always wanted peaceful solutions between middle eastern countries and USA. Al-Queda was USA's creation in the 1980s. Most of the world was against war in Iraq led by USA and UK after 9/11 without UN resolution. Colin Powell waved a tube of white powder trying to convince the world Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. Then there was bombing of Libya . Removal of regime in Egypt. Now, there is conflict in Syria. Guess who supplied weapons to ISIS? Iran maybe next in 15 years time. Iraq is a mess now.

There was no exodus of people from Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan prior to the interventions in those countries. The best way is not to bomb or instigate civil conflicts to undermine unwanted regimes, but to negotiate with the governments of those countries. If Iran will be bombed or there is a revolution, there will be more refugees coming towards Europe. The refugee were expected anyway. It's just some governments did not anticipate so many desperate people and scum among those refugees coming in Europe.

[Arhat]

I am not aware of Soviets meddling in the middle causing military conflicts. There was a campaign in Afghanistan, but not in the middle east. If anything Soviets and Russia always wanted peaceful solutions between middle eastern countries and USA. Al-Queda was USA's creation in the 1980s. Most of the world was against war in Iraq led by USA and UK after 9/11 without UN resolution. Colin Powell waved a tube of white powder trying to convince the world Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. Then there was bombing of Libya . Removal of regime in Egypt. Now, there is conflict in Syria. Guess who supplied weapons to ISIS? Iran maybe next in 15 years time. Iraq is a mess now.

There was no exodus of people from Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan prior to the interventions in those countries. The best way is not to bomb or instigate civil conflicts to undermine unwanted regimes, but to negotiate with the governments of those countries. If Iran will be bombed or there is a revolution, there will be more refugees coming towards Europe. The refugee were expected anyway. It's just some governments did not anticipate so many desperate people and scum among those refugees coming in Europe.

Many of them are coming from countries which the West not invaded. Germany did not send any troops to Iraq and was basically never military involved in the near east. If someone is guilty for this crisis than USA, UK and maybe France but certainly not Germany which just sent troops to Afghanistan, but German troops in Afghanistan almost did nothing except of sitting in their bases and calling for American help when Taliban attacked then.

USA is far away from the Near East so they did not really thought about the consequences of bombing Iraq and toppling the local rulers in other states. They created this crisis and now Germans have to pay for that. Their idiotic invasions opened the Pandora's Box and the future of countries like Germany is doomed because of that. Many of this Muslim Arabs will get more than 3 hardcore Islamic children and the number of crazy wahhabi scum will grow and grow. More and more mosques will be built. If the German state does not pay everything for them they will get angry and start lamenting about German Nazis bla bla. I saw/met many of them and prior to that I thought Germany should help them but after I think it is best to close the borders for Muslim Arabs as soon as possible because they are creep and dangerous people. Like I mentioned already before other groups are not a problem as long as they are not religious Muslims, Arabs or somali or something similar.

[Rugevit]

Many of them are coming from countries which the West not invaded. Germany did not send any troops to Iraq and was basically never military involved in the near east. If someone is guilty for this crisis than USA, UK and maybe France but certainly not Germany which just sent troops to Afghanistan, but German troops in Afghanistan almost did nothing except of sitting in their bases and calling for American help when Taliban attacked then.

USA is far away from the Near East so they did not really thought about the consequences of bombing Iraq and toppling the local rulers in other states. They created this crisis and now Germans have to pay for that. Their idiotic invasions opened the Pandora's Box and the future of countries like Germany is doomed because of that. Many of this Muslim Arabs will get more than 3 hardcore Islamic children and the number of crazy wahhabi scum will grow and grow. More and more mosques will be built. If the German state does not pay everything for them they will get angry and start lamenting about German Nazis bla bla. I saw/met many of them and prior to that I thought Germany should help them but after I think it is best to close the borders for Muslim Arabs as soon as possible because they are creep and dangerous people. Like I mentioned already before other groups are not a problem as long as they are not religious Muslims, Arabs or somali or something similar.

I know that Germany does not deserve their country flooded with the refugees from the countries in which Germany did meddle. But Germany and other European nations are political allies of the USA, they can negotiate something between them. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are financing the trips of refugees to Germany. These countries can find some money to send these people to USA too.

[Arhat]

I know that Germany does not deserve their country flooded with the refugees from the countries in which Germany did meddle. But Germany and other European nations are political allies of the USA, they can negotiate something between them. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are financing the trips of refugees to Germany. These countries can find some money to send these people to USA too.

Ironically Arabic countries are trying to take as few as possible of Arabic refugees and if they take them they treat them like slaves especially Saudi Arabia, which as far as I know not even allows refugees from other Arabic countries to stay there. Germany is ruled by naive people and often they have no clue about the real world. They and many ordinary Germans are almost too tolerant and "friendly" and too much scum exploits that. Most of this Arabs or romani prefer Germany because of the social welfare here and because Germany is known as liberal state. In America or Uk they are much harder and stricter to refugees and want much more from them but in Germany they don't have to work and even get almost everything payed by the German state so they will go to Germany anyways even when they have the possibility to live in America. Many immigrants work hard here and are very useful but this Arabs/Somali/Romani which are coming now are useless and just for exploiting the German tolerance here. Germans too often want to prove that they are not "Nazis" anymore but often they overexaggerate that. Many old Germans are still xenophobic but the younger generations are now "liberal" extremists. Germans are often too extreme in their views either too right or too left and should just find the middle way

[Leliana]

They are bombing spanish people with the most leftist, 'humanitarian' and self-genocidal propaganda from absolutely all newspapers, TV, radios etc 24hours 7 days a week.
Poor refugees!!, they're suffering so much!!, Hungary's govern and police are so racist and facist!!

We MUST do all we can in order to relieve the pain and suffering from the poor pooooor refugees! We must give them our money and blood!, we must take in millions of refugees if we want to consider ourselves as human beings!!!

and of course the minimal criticism to this way of thinking is inmediately vilified and condemned by all the fucking mass-media.

Firstly spanish government accepted to take in 2000 syrian refugees more or less, but since idiot Merkel opened her arms to all refugees who could reach Germany, the 'public (or better the published) opinion and Merkel policy forced goverment to accept 25000!!... by now.
But I doubt this stops here, european goverments and EU have taken this new moor invasion in form of refugees and they have converted it into a sort of 'humanitarian contest', and at this pace of humanitarism we should simply die to leave room and resources in our countries for the poor poooor refugees.
Exactly! :) That's why we European patriots must unite powers and disband that disgusting, multicultural, pro-immigration EU construct altogether. But please don't hate German people. You can't see the extend of brainwashing by mainstream media (plus 'suggestive coverage' instead of neutral informations) here, and German leading politicians are as much corrupt and bought as most leading Spanish politicians. They are all dancing around the golden calve of multiculturalism, NWO, cultural 'enrichment' and other vile ideologies detrimental to anything European.

And don't forget that the EU was created against Germany, to keep Germany 'in line', low and fenced in after WW2. Our power is just an economic one. We are the cash cow of EU and nothing more, we have no real political power for our own. Our corrupt, treacherous politicians are just puppets on a string. German language is, despite the most spoken language in EU, not an official EU organization language as yet. All documents and press conferences in Brussels are either in English or French. That's ridiculous.

[Graham]

This is only a "TEMPORARY" move. It is a German ploy to pressure the lesser EU states. The refugees at the border should just bide their time, Germany and beyond is still in their horizon.

Any thoughts on the El Nino occurring? Could be a few Somali's moving amongst others, if the worst circumstances happen in the EL Nino. Wouldn't be a surprise.

[Wadaad]

Any thoughts on the El Nino occurring? Could be a few Somali's moving amongst others, if the worst circumstances happen in the EL Nino. Wouldn't be a surprise.

It will affect the riverine regions for sure, but nothing unusual. Droughts and Floods happen like clockwork. As we speak there is a drought in the north. But nothing unusual like I said.

There is atleast 1 major drought every 7 years called the Abaar-ta...and a major flood called the Daadaad-ka every 15 years. The last Daadaad happened in 1997 (I guess due to El Nino) and most relocated to camps in Kenya. The camps today are full, and the Kenyans are wary of Shabaab have even threatened to close them...so you might indeed see Somalis joining the European exodus (so far only a trickle compared to Eritreans and Ethiopians).

[Rugevit]

Exactly! :) That's why we European patriots must unite powers and disband that disgusting, multicultural, pro-immigration EU construct altogether. But please don't hate German people. You can't see the extend of brainwashing by mainstream media (plus 'suggestive coverage' instead of neutral informations) here, and German leading politicians are as much corrupt and bought as most leading Spanish politicians. They are all dancing around the golden calve of multiculturalism, NWO, cultural 'enrichment' and other vile ideologies detrimental to anything European.

And don't forget that the EU was created against Germany, to keep Germany 'in line', low and fenced in after WW2. Our power is just an economic one. We are the cash cow of EU and nothing more, we have no real political power for our own. Our corrupt, treacherous politicians are just puppets on a string. German language is, despite the most spoken language in EU, not an official EU organization language as yet. All documents and press conferences in Brussels are either in English or French. That's ridiculous.

Germans are not hated anywhere . Not in eastern Europe. Not even among Jews nowadays. What many people in eastern Europe are saying is that Germany can be more politically independent being an economical powerhouse of Europe. Germany does not need to comply with foreign policies created across Atlantic or Britain. :(

[Leliana]

Germans are not hated anywhere . Not in eastern Europe. Not even among Jews nowadays. What many people in eastern Europe are saying is that Germany can be more politically independent being an economical powerhouse of Europe. Germany does not need to comply with foreign policies created across Atlantic or Britain. :(

But Germany can't. German people would like to, but our powers are still in control by some people elsewhere, or at least heavily influenced and brainwashed. Our finance minister Schäuble said earlier this year that Germany hasn't been fully independent ever since April 1945. I'd wish we'd focus more on our Eastern European comrades for example, but our leadership hangs on the butt of Obama-Washington and Brussels-EU. Eastcoast USA creates turmoil in Near East and Northern Africa, but we have to take the flood of refugees!? We didn't attack Iraq, Syria or Lybia but the asylum seekers come to us. Shall Washington D.C. take them! :eek: We are not the source of the chaos.

I know that Belarus is not an easy country to live in some aspects, but in a way you can be proud to live where you live! :) Your nation has pride, self-esteem, confident traditions and culture, strong leadership (with some flaws ofc) and a quite homogenic society. That's worth a lot! Same goes for Poland, Czech Republic or Slovakia. Western Europe has to learn and adopt some things from Eastern Europe. First and foremost: Self-awareness, excellent national pride and the motivation to kick foreigner's arses and save the own culture! Down with EU, Transatlantic NWO and multiculturalism & zealous liberalism and cultural marxism.

[EL_BARBARO]

I suppose all those syrian refugees are going to convert into christianism, will they?

[Mazik]

http://ukbuzz.wordpress.eurosport.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/08/CNp3zVQWgAAfXW6-1170x658.jpg


Some people tried the same during a football game in Sweden yesterday, but it ended in supporters stealing the banner and attacked those who held it.

[European Knight]

The Latest: EU nations agree on refugee redistribution


BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — The latest developments as European governments rush to cope with the huge number of people moving across Europe. All times local (CET):

German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere says that the European Union nations have "agreed in principle" on the redistribution of 160,000 refugees from Italy,

Greece and Hungary across most other member nations.

He said the tentative agreement at Monday's meeting of the 28 EU interior ministers had not fully laid down the quota of refugees the member states had to take in to

get to the total. EU ministers had earlier approved a first batch of 32,000 refugees from Italy and Greece.

He said more work should be completed when the ministers meet again on Oct. 8.

His French counterpart, Bernard Cazeneuve, said there also was a push to assure a quick return of migrants who were not genuine refugees fleeing war or persecution.

The Latest: EU nations agree on refugee redistribution (http://tucson.com/news/world/the-latest-germany-expects-million-migrants-this-year/article_b15928e2-ed32-51ab-9eb0-d8ccc5e4fb53.html)


http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/a/4c/a4cd4db9-be9a-56d3-a4cc-04b256c7646b/55f72aa530cb3.image.jpg

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

raycis! Germany should take in more refugees, or dats raycis!

[Morena]

What is happening in Germany is similar to what is happening in other parts of the world, US, Canada, etc, the governments are doing what they want without regard to its people or nation.Take Syria for example. Our meddling is directly responsible for this mess, as many have hitched on to the "Syrian refugee" bandwagon and used it for gaining entry into the EU. The US caused this mess, but most Americans didn't want to have anything to do with it. Many of us knew these "springs" would cause more harm than good and that's exactly what happened. But Obama doesn't care about what we have to say, and neither do most politicians. They serve themselves and whoever gives them the most cash.

[Hydromorphone]

I am not aware of Soviets meddling in the middle causing military conflicts. There was a campaign in Afghanistan, but not in the middle east. If anything Soviets and Russia always wanted peaceful solutions between middle eastern countries and USA. Al-Queda was USA's creation in the 1980s. Most of the world was against war in Iraq led by USA and UK after 9/11 without UN resolution. Colin Powell waved a tube of white powder trying to convince the world Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. Then there was bombing of Libya . Removal of regime in Egypt. Now, there is conflict in Syria. Guess who supplied weapons to ISIS? Iran maybe next in 15 years time. Iraq is a mess now.

There was no exodus of people from Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan prior to the interventions in those countries. The best way is not to bomb or instigate civil conflicts to undermine unwanted regimes, but to negotiate with the governments of those countries. If Iran will be bombed or there is a revolution, there will be more refugees coming towards Europe. The refugee were expected anyway. It's just some governments did not anticipate so many desperate people and scum among those refugees coming in Europe.

If you want to argue semantics over what is or isn't X or Y, you can feel free to do that but I'm not seeking to be intellectually dishonest here. Whether you specifically describe it as 'meddling' or not, political movements and wars in the ME and areas around it, much of it was borne out of the cold war. I know it's quite vogue and fucking hot to sit our hairy asses and shit on the U.S, but a lot went on during the cold war that CONTRIBUTED to the rise of violent islamic groups. You do understand when I say that, I was saying it contributes to todays current situation, which is why we cannot change it, and why the flow of people (today) will not stop flowing into Europe. Because people are continually displaced by violent islamic groups, and if we look at history many of those were formed out of the cold war and situations during. I wasn't saying there was an exodus during the cold war; just that it contributed to the current political climate.

Of course, there is no denying that the U.S was more successful in using events in the ME to their advantage. When I said "Cold war proxyism in the ME" I was mostly referring to Iran in 1946, Suez in 1956, the October War of 1973, the Ethiopian-Somali War in 1977, the Gulf War in 1987. I understand that only Afghanistan has acquired the status in US-Soviet relations of the wars of Korea, Vietnam, Angola or Central America, but there have been other significant conflicts coming into play here, and the two conflicts that did come to play a major role in East-West relations were Iran in 1946, and Afghanistan since 1978. As in these other areas of the Third World, indigenous revolutionary forces have been involved. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that interventionism in the ME and surrounding areas directly contributed to the rise of violent islamic groups, such as the Taliban, amongst many many others, and that their continued existence today will likely displace people and continue to wage war across these nations which is likely why the flow of refugees will not stop if we simply (like I suggested) had a stronger government. In order to really address the problem, we can't just have a strong EU sending a message we don't give free rides to refugees, we also need to prevent the kinds of things that led to the rise of violent groups in East and better control the way we interact with or intervene in these countries even if we have good intentions there.

That's all I wanted to say with my remark originally.

[Grab the Gauge]

I suppose all those syrian refugees are going to convert into christianism, will they?

They're going to "convert into" Christians, like this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXsyn-9VLVA

[RandomlyRenounced]

Does Germany even have a Nationalist party? I looked and all I could find was an icky Cuckservative party and a bunch of Liberal parties... :(

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Does Germany even have a Nationalist party? I looked and all I could find was an icky Cuckservative party and a bunch of Liberal parties... :(

There are these guys:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany

[Leliana]

Does Germany even have a Nationalist party? I looked and all I could find was an icky Cuckservative party and a bunch of Liberal parties... :(

www.npd.de
www.die-rechte.de
www.buerger-in-wut.de
www.pro-deutschland-online.de
www.diefreiheit.org
www.rep.de
www.alternativefuer.de

[Murri]

Good, I wish the German southern border was Pressburg, the Eastern border Koenisberg and Tannenberg, those German historical regions have been unrightly stripped from the greater nation.

Also, have more children and don't take shit from the Arab thirdworlders.

[Peterski]

Merkel was "feeding too many pigeons", it seems, and is now changing her mind:

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/09/05/Palestinian-girl-who-cried-before-Merkel-gets-residency.html

http://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2015/09/05/f2704061-40e9-4f5d-a14a-5995d307bfb7/f2704061-40e9-4f5d-a14a-5995d307bfb7_16x9_788x442.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4bvFohf8Jk#t=39


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=6&v=YDB6ESca3EM

http://www.rouming.cz/upload/dont_feed_the_pigeons.jpg

http://www.rouming.cz/upload/dont_feed_the_pigeons.jpg

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But don't worry refugees! If Germany doesn't want you, you can always go to... Liberland!:

Potential citizens are coming towards Liberland, and may help in future development of this young state:

https://liberland.org/en/about/

http://s27.postimg.org/8nmnr9psz/Liberland.png

Development plan for Liberland (now dreams can come true with help of refugees!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcyzA-xEEbo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcyzA-xEEbo

Liberland President granting citizenship (now he will have a lot of new potential citizens!): :)

http://liberlandpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/citizenship1.jpg

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/external?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent6.video.news.com. au%2F9yMDFrdDqTP8072vgBH2ViB1BOQLjENC%2Fpromo25347 3216&width=650&api_key=kq7wnrk4eun47vz9c5xuj3mc

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDSlcdgXIAEdZOP.png

[Norman]

Well, aren't you already housing refugees in KZ Buchenwald ???: :rolleyes:
I think it is inappropriate to send them there. After all, it was a labour-camp.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Time for a new Anschluss to strengthen Germany's border with Hungary.

[Peterski]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-30gF6WB-GY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-30gF6WB-GY