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Deneb
09-19-2015, 07:49 PM
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Gooding
09-19-2015, 07:54 PM
First Norwegian
Second British
Third German
I'm probably wrong, but it's my guess.

Infinite
09-19-2015, 07:58 PM
British
German
Norwegian

jerney
09-19-2015, 09:33 PM
British
Norwegian
German

abcd123
09-19-2015, 09:35 PM
First one certainly looks British,I can even hear his accent.About the other two,I don't know,it could go both ways.Let's say:
British
Norwegian
German

spanish catalan
09-19-2015, 09:36 PM
british
norwegian
german

very easy

Imamudin
09-19-2015, 09:40 PM
1. German
2. British
3. Norwegian

Cuore di Tenebra
09-19-2015, 09:50 PM
German
Norwegian
British

Neon Knight
09-19-2015, 10:00 PM
Norwegian
German
British

Berahthraban
09-19-2015, 10:05 PM
1. Norweigan
2. German
3. British

I feel very certain about this, but we will see :D

Warrior
09-19-2015, 10:07 PM
The 2rd might be british, but he looks far better than the average british male truth to be told.

abcd123
09-19-2015, 10:08 PM
1. Norweigan
2. German
3. British

I feel very certain about this, but we will see :D

0/0

Linebacker
09-19-2015, 10:08 PM
The second one is definitely the Norwegian.Looks like that you only see in Scandinavia.

Then I think first one is the German and 3rd one is the Brit.

Imamudin
09-19-2015, 10:15 PM
Norwegian
German
British

Are you kidding? The second looks typical British with that pink skin tone, freckles and ginger hair.

Warrior
09-19-2015, 10:20 PM
Are you kidding? The second looks typical British with that pink skin tone, freckles and ginger hair.

He doesn't look typical white English, let alone typical british.... there are brits like him, but a minority.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-19-2015, 10:22 PM
Norwegian
British
German

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-19-2015, 10:22 PM
The 2rd might be british, but he looks far better than the average british male truth to be told.

what's up klaus

Imamudin
09-19-2015, 10:23 PM
He doesn't look typical white English, let alone typical british.... there are brits like him, but a minority.

But more typical British than anything else.

joshua rumble
09-19-2015, 10:23 PM
Are you kidding? The second looks typical British with that pink skin tone, freckles and ginger hair.

number 2 does not have ginger hair at all, by any stretch of the imagination.

number 1 has '' pinker skin'' than 2nd????

pink skin has never been a select British thing?

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-19-2015, 10:24 PM
Well, the first one is probably either British or Norwegian, the second one is probably British and the third one is either British or German.

abcd123
09-19-2015, 10:24 PM
But more typical British than anything else.

No,the first one looks far more british than the second.

Warrior
09-19-2015, 10:25 PM
what's up klaus

You are confusing me with someone else.

I stated that because I have been in England for some time.

Deneb
09-19-2015, 10:25 PM
Jerney, abcd123 and Spanishcatalan got it right. The correct answer is so

British (Jon Schofield)
Norwegian (Kjetil Broch)
German (Luis Brethauer)

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-19-2015, 10:26 PM
Jerney, abcd123 and Spanishcatalan got it right. The correct answer is so

British (Jon Schofield)
Norwegian (Kjetil Broch)
German (Luis Brethauer)

I'm very surprised the second one is Norwegian - he just seems odd in any country, but out of the 3 I would say British for sure! As for the other two, I'm not surprised the third one is German and I am definitely not surprised the first one is British...

blubb
09-19-2015, 10:27 PM
Just going by probabilities here...
1) German (probably North)
2) Norwegian (natural peroxide blonde hair on adult male natives simply doesn't exist at least here in the South-West)
3) British (because the highest amount of red hair can be found on those isles)

Dylan
09-19-2015, 10:27 PM
1. British
2. German
3. Norwegian

Dylan
09-19-2015, 10:28 PM
Jerney, abcd123 and Spanishcatalan got it right. The correct answer is so

British (Jon Schofield)
Norwegian (Kjetil Broch)
German (Luis Brethauer)

the German guy would pass as Norwegian very well. Of course this isn't much of a surprise, but he would pass much better than most germans.

Deneb
09-19-2015, 10:30 PM
Interestingly most people guessed the German guy, but mixed the british up with the norwegian guy.

Imamudin
09-19-2015, 10:31 PM
number 2 does not have ginger hair at all, by any stretch of the imagination.

number 1 has '' pinker skin'' than 2nd????

pink skin has never been a select British thing?

Of course, you are just used to it, but British people are worldwide known for having a pink skin.

Imamudin
09-19-2015, 10:33 PM
No,the first one looks far more british than the second.

They both look very British actually. But the third can't be British.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-19-2015, 10:34 PM
They both look very British actually. But the third can't be British.

How can the third not be British? I thought he looked really British.

jerney
09-19-2015, 10:37 PM
the chinky eyes gave away the Norwegian for me. Of course you can find Brits with chinky eyes too, but the eyes plus the angular/sharp features and platinum hair had to mean Norway

joshua rumble
09-19-2015, 10:39 PM
Of course, you are just used to it, but British people are worldwide known for having a pink skin.
ugh no i think you have no idea what you are talking about tbh i have seen many people from all over northern Europe through travel and pink skin is not isolated to uk by any means,
some of the most pink skin people i have seen have been from Iceland

They both look very British actually. But the third can't be British.
what i see people like him everyday????

blubb
09-19-2015, 10:40 PM
They both look very British actually. But the third can't be British.

I noticed it already in this thread half a year ago: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?165990-The-Germanic-populations-according-to-Eurogenes-K13
Do you think we are a Slavic people or something? We're not as Eastern as you think, there's a bigger genetic gap between us and Poles than there is between us and even Iberians, let alone French, Benelux and Britain. Of course I say that as a West German (I'm personally 1/16 Slav max but people still sometimes notice it because it's such an exotic component in our area!), East Germans have some Germanised West Slav and Baltic in them, making them so different from us that French are closer to us than they are to us, genetically

Imamudin
09-19-2015, 10:41 PM
How can the third not be British? I thought he looked really British.

Not so much, more Central Germanic.

abcd123
09-19-2015, 10:41 PM
They both look very British actually. But the third can't be British.

The second one can have a slight British vibe,especially to a foreigner,but his look would be somewhat uncommon.Freckles and platinum blonde hair aren't very common in UK,the freckled ones are usually Scots and Irish,and the are usually ginger not blonde.

Alessio
09-19-2015, 10:42 PM
The last one looks Dutch too

Imamudin
09-19-2015, 10:43 PM
I noticed it already in this thread half a year ago: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?165990-The-Germanic-populations-according-to-Eurogenes-K13
Do you think we are a Slavic people or something? We're not as Eastern as you think, there's a bigger genetic gap between us and Poles than there is between us and even Iberians, let alone French, Benelux and Britain. Of course I say that as a West German (I'm personally 1/16 Slav max but people still sometimes notice it because it's such an exotic component in our area!), East Germans have some Germanised West Slav and Baltic in them, making them so different from us that French are closer to us than they are to us, genetically

Sorry, I can't follow you? What do you mean?

Deneb
09-19-2015, 10:43 PM
the chinky eyes gave away the Norwegian for me. Of course you can find Brits with chinky eyes too, but the eyes plus the angular/sharp features and platinum hair had to mean Norway

Those light yellow eyebrows are rare away from Scandinavia I think.

Deneb
09-19-2015, 10:45 PM
The last one looks Dutch too

Very faelid indeed.

blubb
09-19-2015, 10:57 PM
Sorry, I can't follow you? What do you mean?

Well then let me ask you directly: Do you think we are closer to Poles, Czechs, Russians... than we are to Brits?

Imamudin
09-19-2015, 11:03 PM
Well then let me ask you directly: Do you think we are closer to Poles, Czechs, Russians... than we are to Brits?

To Poles and Czechs yes. You share a border with them, not with Britain.

blubb
09-19-2015, 11:13 PM
To Poles and Czechs yes. You share a border with them, not with Britain.

Land borders aren't the same as genetic borders. There used to be a Germanic-Slavic transition area in the past, but not any more since after WW2. After the expulsion, Western Poland has been resettled by East Slavic Ukrainians and Belarusians, sharpening the Oder line
I did a K13 admixture similarity analysis back in April which you saw, today I made a brand new one considering K15 (methodology is the same as in the thread before I just linked to you), here the results for us West Germans:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=61109&d=1442704347

As you can see, the overlap with Slavic peoples, even the most neighbouring ones such as Poles, is rather low, let alone Russians, compared to our overlap with Benelux, Britain and France

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Imamudin
09-19-2015, 11:23 PM
Land borders aren't the same as genetic borders. There used to be a Germanic-Slavic transition area in the past, but not any more since after WW2. After the expulsion, Western Poland has been resettled by East Slavic Ukrainians and Belarusians, sharpening the Oder line
I did a K13 admixture similarity analysis back in April which you saw, today I made a brand new one considering K15 (methodology is the same as in the thread before I just linked to you), here the results for us West Germans:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=61109&d=1442704347

As you can see, the overlap with Slavic peoples, even the most neighbouring ones such as Poles, is rather low, let alone Russians, compared to our overlap with Benelux, Britain and France

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No one has talked about Russians. But Germans, Poles and Czechs have mixed a lot in history. Germans have also assimilated many Slavs like Sorbs, Wends, Polabians, etc. It's more the Dutch who overlap with British people, but Germans not nearly as much.

blubb
09-19-2015, 11:34 PM
No one has talked about Russians. But Germans, Poles and Czechs have mixed a lot in history. Germans have also assimilated many Slavs like Sorbs, Wends, Polabians, etc. It's more the Dutch who overlap with British people, but Germans not nearly as much.

Again, you have to keep in mind that Germany is very heterogenuous. The Slavic absorption you think of only happened in the North-East (Brandenburg, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, to a lesser extent Upper Saxony). Then there is the North and North-West (Schleswig-Holstein, Niedersachsen, parts of Nordrhein-Westfalen) which is mostly of Nordic/original Germanic stock, and additionally similar to Anglo-Saxon invaders. Then you have the South-West (Rhineland-Palatinate, parts of Hessen, Baden-Württemberg but especially left of the Rhine) where there is very high Celtic (Gaulish) admixture - being part of Rome for 500 years limited the amount of Germanic invaders from the North around here, therefore we are more similar to French, Benelux and Britain than we are to any sort of Slavs (there is no Baltid or Dinarid, let alone Uralid or Mtebid, input here, which can be found in Poles, Russians and Balkanites, at all). Lastly you have the South-East (Bavaria and Austria) which have, along the original Celtic (it was centre of Hallstatt culture) and Germanic invaders - significant Balkan (Dinarid) input.

But as I said earlier, even modern East Germans despite their Wendish input aren't similar to modern Western Poles at all, because Western Poland has been resettled with highly Siberian-admixed East Slavs

Imamudin
09-20-2015, 12:04 AM
Again, you have to keep in mind that Germany is very heterogenuous. The Slavic absorption you think of only happened in the North-East (Brandenburg, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, to a lesser extent Upper Saxony). Then there is the North and North-West (Schleswig-Holstein, Niedersachsen, parts of Nordrhein-Westfalen) which is mostly of Nordic/original Germanic stock, and additionally similar to Anglo-Saxon invaders. Then you have the South-West (Rhineland-Palatinate, parts of Hessen, Baden-Württemberg but especially left of the Rhine) where there is very high Celtic (Gaulish) admixture - being part of Rome for 500 years limited the amount of Germanic invaders from the North around here, therefore we are more similar to French, Benelux and Britain than we are to any sort of Slavs (there is no Baltid or Dinarid, let alone Uralid or Mtebid, input here, which can be found in Poles, Russians and Balkanites, at all). Lastly you have the South-East (Bavaria and Austria) which have, along the original Celtic (it was centre of Hallstatt culture) and Germanic invaders - significant Balkan (Dinarid) input.

But as I said earlier, even modern East Germans despite their Wendish input aren't similar to modern Western Poles at all, because Western Poland has been resettled with highly Siberian-admixed East Slavs

And what about the millions of pre-war East Germans which went to West Germany after the war?

Baltid (proper) and Dinarid can rarely be found among Poles or West Slavs, and Uralid and Mtebid are entirely absent among them.

blubb
09-21-2015, 09:55 AM
And what about the millions of pre-war East Germans which went to West Germany after the war?

Baltid (proper) and Dinarid can rarely be found among Poles or West Slavs, and Uralid and Mtebid are entirely absent among them.

While I personally do actually have some input from there, it's not that many who do here, and hasn't significantly changed the genetics. If we look at Eurogenes K15 ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19c_bZjUV_RouKyGyLHmMDw57WwAVabXFJOaso_gcuRE/edit#gid=1872836177 ), we get for the Baltic component (which peaks in Balto-Slavs except ex-Yu)

W German: 10.5%
N German: 13.4%
E German: 18.1%
Austrian: 18.3%

SW English: 9.7%
SE English: 9.9%
W Scottish: 10.3%
Irish 11.2%

Meanwhile:

Poland (as whole): 28.0%
S Poland: 27.0%
Russia Smolensk: 29.9%
Belarus: 32.0%
Ukraine: 27.3%

So you can see, even our Easterners aren't that Eastern (still slightly closer to British islanders than to the Westernmost Slavs), and West Slavs fit better with East Slavs than with East Germans. Unfortunately there's no Czech sample but South Poland should be a good enough proxy

You simply won't find people looking like Walujew here

Antimage
09-21-2015, 10:06 AM
And what about the millions of pre-war East Germans which went to West Germany after the war?

Baltid (proper) and Dinarid can rarely be found among Poles or West Slavs, and Uralid and Mtebid are entirely absent among them.

Wrong.

Imamudin
09-21-2015, 10:19 AM
While I personally do actually have some input from there, it's not that many who do here, and hasn't significantly changed the genetics. If we look at Eurogenes K15 ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19c_bZjUV_RouKyGyLHmMDw57WwAVabXFJOaso_gcuRE/edit#gid=1872836177 ), we get for the Baltic component (which peaks in Balto-Slavs except ex-Yu)

W German: 10.5%
N German: 13.4%
E German: 18.1%
Austrian: 18.3%

SW English: 9.7%
SE English: 9.9%
W Scottish: 10.3%
Irish 11.2%

Meanwhile:

Poland (as whole): 28.0%
S Poland: 27.0%
Russia Smolensk: 29.9%
Belarus: 32.0%
Ukraine: 27.3%

So you can see, even our Easterners aren't that Eastern (still slightly closer to British islanders than to the Westernmost Slavs), and West Slavs fit better with East Slavs than with East Germans. Unfortunately there's no Czech sample but South Poland should be a good enough proxy

You simply won't find people looking like Walujew here

I have never said Germans were related to Russians. I have only spoken about West Slavs, particularly Poles and Czechs.

Antimage
09-21-2015, 10:25 AM
I have never said Germans were related to Russians. I have only spoken about West Slavs, particularly Poles and Czechs.

I'm not entirely sure about czechs, but poles look very different than germans... to me poles look more similar to balkan slavs and russian than to germans...

Imamudin
09-21-2015, 10:27 AM
I'm not entirely sure about czechs, but poles look very different than germans... to me poles look more similar to balkan slavs and russian than to germans...

You have no idea what Poles look like. I have lived there and they have their own look but are much more like Germans than like Russians.

Charles Bronson
09-21-2015, 10:30 AM
German
Norwegian
British

Antimage
09-21-2015, 10:32 AM
You have no idea what Poles look like. I have lived there and they have their own look but are much more like Germans than like Russians.

I actually do. The poles I saw had a generic slavic look, they didn't look german at all, they were from Krakow if I remember correctly

blubb
09-21-2015, 10:35 AM
I have never said Germans were related to Russians. I have only spoken about West Slavs, particularly Poles and Czechs.

And I'm telling you there's not much difference between West and East Slavs, and we are distant to both of them

Imamudin
09-21-2015, 12:01 PM
And I'm telling you there's not much difference between West and East Slavs, and we are distant to both of them

Of course there is, you are just biased because you're German yourself.

blubb
09-21-2015, 12:23 PM
Of course there is, you are just biased because you're German yourself.

Keep in mind I'm not talking culture etc., but genetics only - and they show what I just said unless you can provide me with other sources

JBoscherville
09-21-2015, 12:37 PM
Are you kidding? The second looks typical British with that pink skin tone, freckles and ginger hair.


They both look very British actually. But the third can't be British.

Lmao, what are you talking about? The Third guy could easily be British. That second guy isn't even close to typical British, he doesn't look British at all. The first and third are the British looking ones :confused:

joshua rumble
09-21-2015, 03:29 PM
You have no idea what Poles look like. I have lived there and they have their own look but are much more like Germans than like Russians.
well no every pole i have ever met has looked very Slavic to me allot more so than German.

Äijä
09-21-2015, 03:31 PM
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j358/flallel/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/78897AF3-01B4-4E66-9F7A-387D59D3B64C_zpsskhjpp1t.jpg (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/flallel/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/78897AF3-01B4-4E66-9F7A-387D59D3B64C_zpsskhjpp1t.jpg.html)
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j358/flallel/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/1762B8E7-709B-49A2-9B23-0D20A92ACCF3_zpsrqppdjhw.jpg (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/flallel/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/1762B8E7-709B-49A2-9B23-0D20A92ACCF3_zpsrqppdjhw.jpg.html)
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j358/flallel/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/DA6574F1-49C6-4D81-B030-B0875FD19D58_zpsxr1rlptv.jpg (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/flallel/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/DA6574F1-49C6-4D81-B030-B0875FD19D58_zpsxr1rlptv.jpg.html)

Posting without reading the thread, Norwegian, German and British, and I think it was easy.

Imamudin
09-21-2015, 03:42 PM
well no every pole i have ever met has looked very Slavic to me allot more so than German.

Yes, can be, but they are both Central Europeans and had plenty of contact in history.

While the only connection Brits have to Germany are the Anglo-Saxons who are a minority in Britain since 60-80% of you are just native Britons/Celts.

Imamudin
09-21-2015, 03:45 PM
Posting without reading the thread, Norwegian, German and British, and I think it was easy.

Wrong.

1. British
2. Norwegian
3. German

joshua rumble
09-21-2015, 03:45 PM
Yes, can be, but they are both Central Europeans and had plenty of contact in history.

While the only connection Brits have to Germany are the Anglo-Saxons who are a minority in Britain since 60-80% of you are just native Britons/Celts.

you are so misinformed its scary, no one here seems to agree with you we are all living in the area's of discussion and your from fucking Chechnya
I cant be bothered to continue with this discussion its like talking to a brick.
You have already been linked a chart with genetic similarities between nations open your fucking eyes.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?165990-The-Germanic-populations-according-to-Eurogenes-K13

Imamudin
09-21-2015, 04:00 PM
you are so misinformed its scary, no one here seems to agree with you we are all living in the area's of discussion and your from fucking Chechnya
I cant be bothered to continue with this discussion its like talking to a brick.

I live in Germany so I must know it. British people are more like French, Spanish and Dutch people, but not so much like Germans, and least of all like North or East Germans. In Germany no one views British people as relatives or anything.

Oneeye
09-21-2015, 04:06 PM
Norwegian
German
British


This was my guess.

abcd123
09-21-2015, 04:07 PM
This was my guess.

Incorrect,oldie.

Oneeye
09-21-2015, 04:16 PM
The arguments in these threads crack me up. xD It's a game. If none of these guys could "pass" as each others nationalities, then no one would play.

Insuperable
09-21-2015, 04:21 PM
Edit:

Oops, I missed the post with correct guesses.

blubb
09-21-2015, 04:22 PM
I live in Germany so I must know it. British people are more like French, Spanish and Dutch people, but not so much like Germans, and least of all like North or East Germans. In Germany no one views British people as relatives or anything.

Again, we're not talking about historical/political/cultural interactions here, but solely genetics and phenotypes, two entirely different stories. BTW do you live in Lusatia or Eastern Mecklenburg by any chance? Only there, the Slavic connection shows a little

Äijä
09-21-2015, 04:22 PM
The arguments in these threads crack me up. xD It's a game. If none of these guys could "pass" as each others nationalities, then no one would play.

Agree, I can find those faces from Finland.

joshua rumble
09-21-2015, 04:23 PM
I live in Germany so I must know it. British people are more like French, Spanish and Dutch people, but not so much like Germans, and least of all like North or East Germans. In Germany no one views British people as relatives or anything.

OK this is the last time i respond to you, look at the evidence before you comment your opinion
you are simply wrong
1st link show DNA correlation and similarities between nations

2nd link show similarity's only LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE


http://www.eupedia.com/europe/autosomal_maps_dodecad.shtml

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...-Eurogenes-K13

Imamudin
09-21-2015, 05:00 PM
Again, we're not talking about historical/political/cultural interactions here, but solely genetics and phenotypes, two entirely different stories. BTW do you live in Lusatia or Eastern Mecklenburg by any chance? Only there, the Slavic connection shows a little

Yes, Germans overlap more with West Slavs (who have significant German influence as well) than with British people.

Germans are not related to West Slavs, but a bit closer to them than to British people. How is that even a question? Germany was for centuries surrounded by Slavs, Germans have lived in Ukraine, Russia and everywhere all across Eastern Europe and all of them returned to Germany after the war.

blubb
09-21-2015, 08:25 PM
Yes, Germans overlap more with West Slavs ... than with British people.

Not genetically at least, as I have shown you. You haven't posted any source confirming your claim yet while I have shown you the genetic data