Which African country does my Cape Verdean side trace to from my results?

[Sikeliot]

I want someone to try to place it to an actual country if possible.


23andme: 0.2% West African for me, 0.5% West African for my mother. All West Africans and Bantus score this as main component.

FTDNA: 1% West African for my mother (region spans from Benin to South Africa on the map, but all West Africans and Bantus score this as main component)

FTDNA: 2% Malian for my mother.

Eurogenes gives 3% of West and Southern African for my mother divided roughly evenly on most calculators.


Doug McDonald predicts 1.9% African for me, 3%+ for my mother and gave this:


Male
Most likely fit is 98.1% (+- 0.6%) Europe (all Southern Europe)
and 1.9% (+- 0.6%) Africa (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Italian= 0.984 Mandenka= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Yoruba= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Bantu Ke= 0.016
Italian= 0.985 Bantu So= 0.015
Italian= 0.976 Ethiopia= 0.024
Italian= 0.970 Ethiopia= 0.030
Italian= 0.971 Ethiopia= 0.029
Italian= 0.981 Maasai= 0.019
Italian= 0.987 Biaka Py= 0.013
Italian= 0.990 Mbuti Py= 0.010

[Sikeliot]

anyone have a guess?

[Dylan]

Hard to guess which country since the political boundaries of african countries don't always match up with the borders of tribes etc.
My best guess would be Gambia or Senegal. Not only does it make the most sense for a Cape Verdean to have origins from there given its proximity, but Mandenka are common in Gambia and also have a significant presence in South Africa and thats the first one that came up for you.

[Sikeliot]

Hard to guess which country since the political boundaries of african countries don't always match up with the borders of tribes etc.
My best guess would be Gambia or Senegal. Not only does it make the most sense for a Cape Verdean to have origins from there given its proximity, but Mandenka are common in Gambia and also have a significant presence in South Africa and thats the first one that came up for you.

Mandinka in South Africa? I didn't know about that. I thought they spanned mostly from Mali to Sierra Leone into Senegambia.

So you think actual Bantu ancestry is unlikely? Most Brazilian blacks for instance are Bantu, but I think I read that Cape Verdeans are not at all of Bantu descent except a few stray Angolan slaves, and no Bantus were imported into Madeira either.

[Carlito's Way]

hard to know, i think it becomes a bit difficult with people who have very little SSA

[Sikeliot]

hard to know, i think it becomes a bit difficult with people who have very little SSA

Educated guess based on the results above?

[Carlito's Way]

could be Fulani? not sure

[Sikeliot]

could be Fulani? not sure

So you think it is something in upper West Africa and not Bantu or Nigerian area is what I mean.

[Carlito's Way]

So you think it is something in upper West Africa and not Bantu or Nigerian area is what I mean.

yeah more upper west africa

what were the main black african populations in Cape Verde? your black African can also be a mixture of upper West Africa and Bantu, thats also another possibility

[Sikeliot]

yeah more upper west africa

what were the main black african populations in Cape Verde? your black African can also be a mixture of upper West Africa and Bantu, thats also another possibility

I wish my grandmother or great aunt would test, since they should have enough African for the result to be clearer.

[Shah-Jehan]

I doubt if you have actual ancestry from Mali, probably just how a portion of your genome is similar to Malians but is probably different types of admixture.

[Sikeliot]

I would you have actual ancestry from Mali, probably just how a portion of your genome is similar to Malians but is probably different types of admixture.

My guess is probably a Mandinka, Fulani or Wolof from Senegal, Mali, Gambia etc. I only questioned it because that same segment of my DNA matches with Bantu Kenyans and also on some calculators on GEDmatch we score 'Southern African' which would be a component in Bantu people but not people in Upper Guinea.

Senegambia makes more sense since any African in Cape Verde or Madeira would've been Senegambian. Kenyan and South African Bantu people might've just come originally from West Africa and that's where that comes from.

[Isleño]

Your mother would have the equivalent of a 3x great grandparent Sub-Saharan according to her percentage, you a 4x great grandparent. Believe it or not, I know a white American guy from the American south that tested and he had 3% Sub-Saharan ancestry and he looked like he could be from Ireland or something. Of course, 3% doesn't do much for a phenotype but it's still there.

[Sikeliot]

Your mother would have the equivalent of a 3x great grandparent Sub-Saharan according to her percentage, you a 4x great grandparent. Believe it or not, I know a white American guy from the American south that tested and he had 3% Sub-Saharan ancestry and he looked like he could be from Ireland or something. Of course, 3% doesn't do much for a phenotype but it's still there.

Another way of thinking of it is an octoroon grandparent for my mother. Do you think from these results you can deduce the region of Africa?

[wvwvw]

Ghana or Liberia