AncestryDNA origins for African Americans: mostly Nigeria, Cameroon, Congo, and Ghana!

[Sikeliot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnR-7UV1t1NWdFJyMGd6V3dqSHZPaHhPcjJ0OTJmNUE&usp=sharing#gid=0

The highest match for each person is listed in bold. My Cape Verdean cousin Oditous compiled this data, I am just reposting it here. The scores are such that they represent the fraction of the persons' total African ancestry, not their entire ancestry.

This is what can be seen:

1) MOST people get Nigeria, Cameroon/Congo or Ghana first. A smaller minority score more Beninese, probably people from Louisiana.
2) Senegal, SE Bantu (Mozambique, interior Congo, Madagascar etc.) and Mali never are their top scores but sometimes can be substantial.


So most African Americans seem to come from Nigeria and southward, not upper West Africa.

[Carlito's Way]

the Cameroon/Congo most likely comes from their Nigerian side since Nigerians also come out with Cameroon/Congo
most African Americans are mostly Nigerian for the most part

nice spreadsheet, a little messy though haha, i saw that he put my cousin on the spreahseet, in the MesoAmerican category haha

[Sikeliot]

the Cameroon/Congo most likely comes from their Nigerian side since Nigerians also come out with Cameroon/Congo
most African Americans are mostly Nigerian for the most part

nice spreadsheet, a little messy though haha, i saw that he put my cousin on the spreahseet, in the MesoAmerican category haha


Cameroon/Congo is likely authentic. A lot of Nigerians do score Cameroon/Congo but a lot of Nigerian ancestry is also misread as Beninese, since many groups exist in both countries. Cameroon and Nigeria do not share too many ethnic groups and Cameroonians are Bantu.

[Carlito's Way]

Cameroon/Congo is likely authentic. A lot of Nigerians do score Cameroon/Congo but a lot of Nigerian ancestry is also misread as Beninese, since many groups exist in both countries. Cameroon and Nigeria do not share too many ethnic groups and Cameroonians are Bantu.

i have a question, why dont these companies ever use Angolans? they are always using pygmy and such people
it happens also on 23andme, which is why people with real central african roots come out with more west african

[Sikeliot]

i have a question, why dont these companies ever use Angolans? they are always using pygmy and such people
it happens also on 23andme, which is why people with real central african roots come out with more west african

This I don't know. But what I do know is that on AncestryDNA, Cameroon/Congo represents Central African Bantu from the coasts (Angolan probably is partially in there) and SE Bantu represents interior Congolese and SE African.

[Carlito's Way]

This I don't know. But what I do know is that on AncestryDNA, Cameroon/Congo represents Central African Bantu from the coasts (Angolan probably is partially in there) and SE Bantu represents interior Congolese and SE African.

aaah thanks, i didnt know that, do you have any results of Angolans who have taken ancestryDNA? or even Brazilians since they have a majority Angolan background
i am curious to know what Angolans score on AncestryDNA, if not i will ask a friend who is part Angolan to get tested on AncestryDNA, i dont mind paying for her kit

[Sikeliot]

aaah thanks, i didnt know that, do you have any results of Angolans who have taken ancestryDNA? or even Brazilians since they have a majority Angolan background
i am curious to know what Angolans score on AncestryDNA, if not i will ask a friend who is part Angolan to get tested on AncestryDNA, i dont mind paying for her kit


Also even though it represents Pygmies and San people, the higher South/Central African you get on 23andme, the more Bantu ancestry you have, because Bantu people absorbed these groups as they moved south into Africa. I have seen that score go quite high in many Brazilians for instance.

[Sikeliot]

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/African_American_Place_of_Origin

Go here. See how much Angolan and Congolese there is?

Interestingly, those with high Benin/Togo in the link I posted must be from Louisiana.. there is a reason Voodoo is practiced there, that comes from Benin.

[Carlito's Way]

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/African_American_Place_of_Origin

Go here. See how much Angolan and Congolese there is?

Interestingly, those with high Benin/Togo in the link I posted must be from Louisiana.. there is a reason Voodoo is practiced there, that comes from Benin.

damn and i thought New Orleans had mostly Angolan slaves :confused:

i think Nigerians have the strongest voodoo spells, for example in Latin America, the best in these type of things are the Cubans, theirs comes from the Yorubas, their shit is very powerful, many head out to Cuba to put spells on people
Candomble in Brazil for instance has Yoruba beliefs as well, very powerful too
in America, New Orleans is the hot spot for these things

[Sikeliot]

damn and i thought New Orleans had mostly Angolan slaves :confused:

i think Nigerians have the strongest voodoo spells, for example in Latin America, the best in these type of things are the Cubans, theirs comes from the Yorubas, their shit is very powerful, many head out to Cuba to put spells on people
Candomble in Brazil for instance has Yoruba beliefs as well, very powerful too
in America, New Orleans is the hot spot for these things


What we call "Voodoo" is different than Santeria. The former is from Fon and Ewe people, the latter from Yoruba.

[Carlito's Way]

What we call "Voodoo" is different than Santeria. The former is from Fon and Ewe people, the latter from Yoruba.

yeah i know, i was talking more about their spells and animal sacrifices that both groups do, comparing which are more powerful (spells of course)
theres two type of voodoo, Louisiana Voodoo and Haitian Voodoo, the one from Haiti is more powerful and darker than the one from Louisiana

what i dont like about these religions is the animal sacrifices :(
haitian animal sacrifice
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d0/ab/d8/d0abd811caadd9195c7c1834245bc988.jpg

cuban santeria animal sacrifice, they actually lick the blood
http://p1.trrsf.com/image/fget/cf/619/464/images.terra.com/2011/12/05/4e27db-9bea88414840641b000f6a7067008p.jpg

shit like this creeps me the hell out, thats why i stay away from haitian and cuban women, now Louisiana women are on my "stay away" list

[Old Brazilian]

I tought most African American had strong connections with the regions of Niger-Congo since their accent in some aspects is similar to the languages spoken in that region.

[Sikeliot]

Haitian Voodoo is also from Benin.

[Carlito's Way]

Haitian Voodoo is also from Benin.

yeah i was just reading about it
by the way, apart from African Americans, what other new world black population has a higher Nigerian ancestry?

[Isleño]

Voodoo is barely practiced in Louisiana. I live in Louisiana, so I know this. Most blacks here are Baptist and most whites here are Catholic. But of course there are a few blacks that are Catholic and a few whites that are protestant (white protestants are mostly in Northern Louisiana, southern Louisiana whites are mostly Catholic), but most are like I said, blacks are Southern Baptist and whites are Catholic mainly in Louisiana, especially around the New Orleans area.

Voodoo here is like for tourists now....it barely survives in actual people that live here, only among people that are into that sort of thing. I can't tell you the last time I met a black person that practiced voodoo....oh wait...never....and I've been in the New Orleans area all my life (albeit in a Canarian Spanish community of Catholics, but still the New Orleans area). Voodoo is almost dead among black New Orleanians. It's for tourism now. It's passing away like the French language did in New Orleans.

[Carlito's Way]

Voodoo is barely practiced in Louisiana. I live in Louisiana, so I know this. Most blacks here are Baptist and most whites here are Catholic. But of course there are a few blacks that are Catholic and a few whites that are protestant (white protestants are mostly in Northern Louisiana, southern Louisiana whites are mostly Catholic), but most are like I said, blacks are Southern Baptist and whites are Catholic mainly in Louisiana, especially around the New Orleans area.

Voodoo here is like for tourists now....it barely survives in actual people that live here, only among people that are into that sort of thing. I can't tell you the last time I met a black person that practiced voodoo....oh wait...never....and I've been in the New Orleans area all my life (albeit in a Canarian Spanish community of Catholics, but still the New Orleans area). Voodoo is almost dead among black New Orleanians. It's for tourism now. It's passing away like the French language did in New Orleans.

it might not be out in the open like back in the day but there are many who go see these kind of people to put spells on their loved ones or enemies


Almost 15% of of the population of Louisiana state practice Voodoo. Louisiana Voodoo, also known as New Orleans Voodoo, is described as a set of religious practices which originated from the traditions of the African diaspora. It is a cultural form of the Afro-American religions which developed within the French, Spanish, and Creole speaking African American population of the U.S. state of Louisiana.

[Guanimaa]

yeah i was just reading about it
by the way, apart from African Americans, what other new world black population has a higher Nigerian ancestry?

I would guess a lot would have Nigeria and Ghana ancestry. People should remember that during the slave trade 200 years ago, these countries didn't have the names they have today. It would have been the Gold Coast,

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/africa_1885.jpg

[Isleño]

it might not be out in the open like back in the day but there are many who go see these kind of people to put spells on their loved ones or enemiesCarlos, believe me, I live in the New Orleans area, voodoo is almost dead. The only people that do that today are people that got into the "culture" side of it and now practice and they are only a handful. I'd say most of the population of Louisiana (including New Orleans) do not practice voodoo. I've been living in the New Orleans area my whole life and never met anyone whose family practices voodoo. Virtually almost all blacks in Louisiana are Christians, just like the whites. Voodoo is near dead, just like the French language in New Orleans (which of course was once the main language of New Orleans). Voodoo was once practice in New Orleans widely (but still not very large as Christianity has always dominated, mainly Catholicism, which was the main Christian branch among white creoles and black creoles) Whites are still mainly Catholic here, but now blacks are mainly Baptist since many here are transplanted families from Anglo parts of Louisiana and Mississippi (New Orleans was a majority white city (70%) throughout most of it's history, many blacks that are here now descend from transplanted Anglo black families). Voodoo is mainly for tourists now that come to see it given by the few handful of people that actually practice it here. We use the word voodoo in some aspects of culture here like naming a minor league sports team or a drink or something, but that's it. It's virtually almost dead. Like I said, I grew up in the New Orleans area, the very place where voodoo was once practiced the most in Louisiana, and it's virtually almost dead here and is for tourist purposes now. Seriously.

[Carlito's Way]

Carlos, believe me, I live in the New Orleans area, voodoo is almost dead. The only people that do that today are people that got into the "culture" side of it and now practice and they are only a handful. I'd say most of the population of Louisiana (including New Orleans) do not practice voodoo. I've been living in the New Orleans area my whole life and never met anyone whose family practices voodoo. Virtually almost all blacks in Louisiana are Christians, just like the whites. Voodoo is near dead, just like the French language in New Orleans (which of course was once the main language of New Orleans). Voodoo was once practice in New Orleans widely (but still not very large as Christianity has always dominated, mainly Catholicism, which was the main Christian branch among white creoles and black creoles) Whites are still mainly Catholic here, but now blacks are mainly Baptist since many here are transplanted families from Anglo parts of Louisiana and Mississippi (New Orleans was a majority white city (70%) throughout most of it's history, many blacks that are here now descend from transplanted Anglo black families). Voodoo is mainly for tourists now that come to see it given by the few handful of people that actually practice it here. We use the word voodoo in some aspects of culture here like naming a minor league sports team or a drink or something, but that's it. It's virtually almost dead. Like I said, I grew up in the New Orleans area, the very place where voodoo was once practiced the most in Louisiana, and it's virtually almost dead here and is for tourist purposes now. Seriously.

can you look for someone who does Louisiana voodoo? i need a good one to do something for me, i dont care how much he/she charges me, i dont want it to be a scam either, i want a real authentic one

[Tilvalhallar]

I am changing my religion to Voodoo, seems cool.

Now, which one is best?
Louisiana Voodoo
Haitian Vodou
West African Vodun
Dominican Vudú

[Isleño]

can you look for someone who does Louisiana voodoo? i need a good one to do something for me, i dont care how much he/she charges me, i dont want it to be a scam either, i want a real authentic oneYou can look too, just google it. Here in the New Orleans area, there are a few people here that do it. There is a voodoo museum in New Orleans, you can find them online. Lol, ironically I used to bang a white chick that worked at the voodoo museum who was from out of state and came down as a tourist looking for voodoo, just as you are. Crazy huh? Just google New Orleans voodoo museum. I believe they hold sessions or can point you to people who do. Or you can contact the Marie Laveau voodoo shop on Bourbon St. they can maybe point you in the right direction.

I know a little bit about voodoo like how to pray to Damballa when you put the egg on top of a mound of salt and things like that, burying two chicken feet together with a plant on top to make a relationship grow, things like that. Actually all southern Louisianians of every color use the word gris-gris in our dialect (pronounced gree-gree, which is actually from the French language, not any African one), which comes from voodoo meaning a spell which can be good or bad. Like if I said, don't mess with that girl, she'll put a gris-gris on you, or a way to say jinxing someone or something like saying "don't mention it too much, you might put a gris-gris on it, or put a gris-gris on me. So there are some remnants of voodoo that has entered the dialect of southern Louisiana which is spoken by all colors/ethnicities here. In my great grandmother's day, there were actually a few people among regular people that still practiced (not the near dead status among New Orleans residents today, that mainly survives among the tourist areas for tourism) and she told me before of some people she knew that made dolls and would stab them or take care of them by brushing their hair and changing it's clothes, of people they either loved or hated. But that sort of thing has passed with the old and it's rare to find that in Louisiana culture today. Just like the French language that once was spoken by all of New Orleans, which is now just a relic with only street signs in French or store/restaurant signs. (actually New Orleans was once ruled by the Spanish, so Spanish once had a place in New Orleans too, there are many street names in Spanish in New Orleans too).

[Dominicanese]

I would say Belizeans, Caymanians, Jamaicans, and Bajans score one a the highest Nigerian, because they had Igbos brought to them in large numbers

Igbo people
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Igbo_ichi_marks.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/130124143638-nigeria-jews-igbo-chief-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2013/04/A-new-generation-of-Igbos-are-being-raised-with-Judaism.-Photo-Shai-Afsai.jpg

African Americans indeed do have a lot of Igbo-Nigerian in them

[Carlito's Way]

You can look too, just google it. Here in the New Orleans area, there are a few people here that do it. There is a voodoo museum in New Orleans, you can find them online. Lol, ironically I used to bang a white chick that worked at the voodoo museum who was from out of state and came down as a tourist looking for voodoo, just as you are. Crazy huh? Just google New Orleans voodoo museum. I believe they hold sessions or can point you to people who do. Or you can contact the Marie Laveau voodoo shop on Bourbon St. they can maybe point you in the right direction.

I know a little bit about voodoo like how to pray to Damballa when you put the egg on top of a mound of salt and things like that, burying two chicken feet together with a plant on top to make a relationship grow, things like that. Actually all southern Louisianians of every color use the word gris-gris in our dialect (pronounced gree-gree, which is actually from the French language, not any African one), which comes from voodoo meaning a spell which can be good or bad. Like if I said, don't mess with that girl, she'll put a gris-gris on you, or a way to say jinxing someone or something like saying "don't mention it too much, you might put a gris-gris on it, or put a gris-gris on me. So there are some remnants of voodoo that has entered the dialect of southern Louisiana which is spoken by all colors/ethnicities here. In my great grandmother's day, there were actually a few people among regular people that still practiced (not the near dead status among New Orleans residents today, that mainly survives among the tourist areas for tourism) and she told me before of some people she knew that made dolls and would stab them or take care of them by brushing their hair and changing it's clothes, of people they either loved or hated. But that sort of thing has passed with the old and it's rare to find that in Louisiana culture today. Just like the French language that once was spoken by all of New Orleans, which is now just a relic with only street signs in French or store/restaurant signs. (actually New Orleans was once ruled by the Spanish, so Spanish once had a place in New Orleans too, there are many street names in Spanish in New Orleans too).


ill google that right now, the thing about this is that i dont like googling for these type of things because there are so many scammers on the internet, people who charge up to 1,000 dollars, no way i will pay that much and only scammers charge that much, most tend to charge you between 300-500 dollars

theres a town in Veracruz called Catemaco, thats the town of los brujos, half the people if not more have made pacts with the devil, they do animal sacrifices, they have a huge red satan statue (with his penis out lol), the people out there know what to do, their work is amazing, many politicians hire them to help them with their campaigns, celebrities, narcos, normal citizens, they even throw festivals to honor the devil

http://www.aldianoticias.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/IMG_5126-1.jpg
http://static.tvazteca.com/imagenes/2012/09/catemaco-brujos-chamanes-1422717.jpg
http://www.aldianoticias.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/misa-1.jpg


the man i know who does great work is brujo Reyes Alvarez Montes, hes a brujo mayor
he pretty much works with white magic and black magic, also with la Santa Muerte

lives in Catemaco Veracruz though
http://www.enlostuxtlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/wpid-101_4041.jpg