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Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 05:12 PM
If anyone wishes to help promote the following, please contact me.

Daughters of Frya Priestesses’ Training College

The Daughters of Frya Priestesses’ Training College trains and prepares young women aged 18 to 25 for the role of priestesses as mandated by the Oera Linda Book, in readiness for their leadership of the new society to be established after the fall of the current world order.

Website: http://frya.angelfire.com/

Electronic God-Man
08-29-2010, 05:15 PM
Why are you still going on about this?

Electronic God-Man
08-29-2010, 05:17 PM
the seven-year course fee is currently set at £2,556,699.18 with bursaries (subsidies) available of up to 100% depending on family income and assets

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Loddfafner
08-29-2010, 05:22 PM
He is showing off some fresh pictures he found of a women's tennis team. You would expect those fees to at least cover the cost of a domain name.

The Lawspeaker
08-29-2010, 05:26 PM
Someone BAN this guy already.:rolleyes2:

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 05:29 PM
If you read the very next two sentences after the mention of the course fee, you'll see why it's so high.

And that is not a tennis kit.

Wyn
08-29-2010, 05:30 PM
From the website:


Perform 1,200 deep knee-bends every day in devotion ... Bend their knees for six seconds, chanting Wr-alda, until on their haunches ... Remain in this posture for six seconds ... Unbend their knees for six seconds ... until standing again ... They repeat these actions immediately, and continue doing so for the full three hours (i.e. 600 times) ... The second daily session is identical, making a total of 1,200 deep knee-bends each day.


I don't know if this sort of thing is good for a person's body.

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 05:32 PM
From the website:



I don't know if this sort of thing is good for a person's body.

It is healthy and induces strength and fitness, in addition to facilitating the flow of energy. The authors of the Oera Linda Book knew what they were talking about.

Electronic God-Man
08-29-2010, 05:34 PM
Since the college is always heavily over-subscribed, each candidate shall be interviewed separately and tested for suitability.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x66/erdrtyu/Orly.jpg

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 10:35 PM
Just to clarify, I'm not trying to claim that the college already exists as described on the website. Rather, that it's my intention to set it up.

Loki
08-29-2010, 10:46 PM
If anyone wishes to help promote the following, please contact me.


How much are you paying? Btw, the plug for the link in your OP will be £50. You can find the donation link next to User CP.

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 10:50 PM
How much are you paying? Btw, the plug for the link in your OP will be £50. You can find the donation link next to User CP.

It's not a money making scam, in case anyone was wondering. No one would charge £2,556,699.18 and expect people to pay it. The reason for such a high amount is given in the final paragraph, and the reason for that specific number is esoteric. Can anyone work out what it is? :)

Megrez
08-29-2010, 11:01 PM
The symbol for your organization is interesting, a Hagal rune over an acetone flame.

Loki
08-29-2010, 11:05 PM
It's not a money making scam, in case anyone was wondering. No one would charge £2,556,699.18 and expect people to pay it. The reason for such a high amount is given in the final paragraph, and the reason for that specific number is esoteric. Can anyone work out what it is? :)

A mathematical riddle. I accept the challenge. Let's see ... ;)

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 11:06 PM
The symbol for your organization is interesting, a Hagal rune over an acetone flame.

The six-spoked wheel in a circle is called the Kroder, and symbolises the wheel of the year. It also, as you say, incorporates the Hagal rune, and indeed all other runes. See here in the Oera Linda Book http://oeralinda.angelfire.com/#at

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 11:08 PM
A mathematical riddle. I accept the challenge. Let's see ... ;)

A conundrum certainly, but probably not a riddle in the strict sense...

Loki
08-29-2010, 11:10 PM
A conundrum certainly, but probably not a riddle in the strict sense...

Yeah, got it. It's roughly £1,000/day. £1,000 x 365 x 7.

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 11:14 PM
Yeah, got it. It's roughly £1,000/day. £1,000 x 365 x 7.

That's not it. What you say is mathematically correct, but isn't the answer. It's not about money at all.

Loki
08-29-2010, 11:14 PM
Yeah, got it. It's roughly £1,000/day. £1,000 x 365 x 7.

Well, to get there more accurately you have to use the correct 365.25 days in a year, and perhaps adjust for leap years - depending on which the training starts.

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 11:15 PM
Well, to get there more accurately you have to use the correct 365.25 days in a year, and perhaps adjust for leap years - depending on which the training starts.

You're almost there, but not quite...

Blood Trinity
08-29-2010, 11:15 PM
It's not a money making scam

Far be it from me to make such an accusation. Would "Clever-Scheme-To-Get-Laid-With-Hot-Pagan-Bitches" be a more apt description? :D

Seriously though man, I've been on this forum for about 5 minutes compared to most posters on here and already realize you are a habitual joker. Why not just give it up already?

Loki
08-29-2010, 11:16 PM
That's not it. What you say is mathematically correct, but isn't the answer. It's not about money at all.

Okay it's some other usage for the number 1,000 then. Does that perhaps refer to the amount of times they are molested by their teachers during the course?

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 11:18 PM
Far be it from me to make such an accusation. Would "Clever-Scheme-To-Get-Laid-With-Hot-Pagan-Bitches" be a more apt description? :D

Seriously though man, I've been on this forum for about 5 minutes compared to most posters on here and already realize you are a habitual joker. Why not just give it up already?

Getting laid with them is the very last thing that would be possible.

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 11:18 PM
Okay it's some other usage for the number 1,000 then. Does that perhaps refer to the amount of times they are molested by their teachers during the course?

Nope. Think laterally.

Megrez
08-29-2010, 11:29 PM
The Kroder resembles the Kolovrat, although the latter is eight-spoked.

http://yarga.ru/orei_art/pre/grafika/kolovrat_2_big.jpg

Why the acetone flame?

Loddfafner
08-29-2010, 11:30 PM
Nope. Think laterally.

Does thinking about sharing a bed count as thinking "laterally"?

Wulfhere
08-29-2010, 11:33 PM
The Kroder resembles the Kolovrat, although the latter is eight-spoked.

http://yarga.ru/orei_art/pre/grafika/kolovrat_2_big.jpg

Why the acetone flame?

The flame represents the Foddik, the perpetually burning lamp in every Burch, or temple.

Blood Trinity
08-29-2010, 11:36 PM
Getting laid with them is the very last thing that would be possible.

Well I guess not everyone was born to be a player.

Megrez
08-29-2010, 11:58 PM
The prohibition against orgasm and sexual activity is strictly enforced and monitored with an electronic implant
Tell more about this electronic implant.


At the end of their seven-year course the priestesses have learnt obedience, discipline and willpower
I think a priestess will show she has gotten enough willpower when she puts a gun against Borough Priestess' head and force her to do the session of 1,200 deep knee-bends. And then leave the place to never come back, of course.

Smaland
08-30-2010, 12:10 AM
The prohibition against orgasm and sexual activity is strictly enforced and monitored with an electronic implant – any lapse, whatever its cause, results in immediate expulsion without appeal. It is the responsibility of every priestess to conduct herself so as to guard against accidents. If a priestess fails to complete her full quota of 1,200 knee-bends on any given day she must do twice that number the following day, with the excess made up during her designated sleep periods. If the problem persists she is deemed incapable of completing the course and expelled.

Isn't this degree of sexual control over its disciples one of the marks of a cult? :rolleyes:

Psychonaut
08-30-2010, 01:33 AM
The number is the amount of deep knee bends done over the course of seven years, right?

Arrow Cross
08-30-2010, 02:28 AM
What's more important than all the Wulfie posts together in this thread; who's going to pay me for the expensive bandwith I've wasted by clicking on that link?

My expression two seconds after doing so:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xnSYm0PpLOQ/Sa0i1WBwFbI/AAAAAAAAADI/zskV3aJR3tA/s400/what+the+fuck+am+I+reading.png

Aemma
08-30-2010, 03:37 AM
Does thinking about sharing a bed count as thinking "laterally"?

£2,556,699.18 I dunno. The number 69 figures prominently in there so it just might. Oops! Did I really say that out loud? :D

Loddfafner
08-30-2010, 03:59 AM
Wolfman, you have already carried this troll as far as it will go. You've been busted. No point in reviving it for the benefit of the newbies. Come up with a new, fresh approach. It will be decades before Popesucker will become recognized as the Patron Saint of Trolling so in the meantime, there are no supernatural authorities to redeem such tired, pathetic attempts.

Wulfhere
08-30-2010, 07:54 AM
Tell more about this electronic implant.


I think a priestess will show she has gotten enough willpower when she puts a gun against Borough Priestess' head and force her to do the session of 1,200 deep knee-bends. And then leave the place to never come back, of course.

The Borough Priestess and all Elder Priestesses are still required to do 1,200 knee-bends a day.

I'm not an expert on electronic implants but this is surely not beyond the capability of science.

Wulfhere
08-30-2010, 08:03 AM
The number is the amount of deep knee bends done over the course of seven years, right?

It's the number of days in seven astronomical years to five decimal places. But you know what, your's is actually a better idea - I'm always open to suggestions, as long as they don't compromise the basic system - and it also gives a somewhat higher number - £3,068,100 (7 x 365.25 x 1,200). Thanks for the suggestion. I've changed it accordingly.

Wyn
08-30-2010, 10:18 AM
It is healthy and induces strength and fitness, in addition to facilitating the flow of energy.

Do you actually know this for certain? Do you personally know young women that have actually completed this? 1,200 deep knee-bends a day for years upon years?



The authors of the Oera Linda Book knew what they were talking about.

That remains to be seen.

Wulfhere
08-30-2010, 10:22 AM
Do you actually know this for certain? Do you personally know young women that have actually completed this? 1,200 deep knee-bends a day for years upon years?



That remains to be seen.

Yes, we've been experimenting with the system described in the Oera Linda Book since 1985.

ikki
08-30-2010, 10:51 AM
ah yes.. short-short shirts that preform as even shorter skirts.. so that when the daily 1200 bendovers are preformed the whole glory is quite visible :p

Megrez
08-30-2010, 12:06 PM
An electronic implant can sense alcohol and hormones released during sexual activity and orgasm, but I'm afraid it will be useless to prevent oral sex - a woman can perform oral sex on a man without getting excited and releasing hormones.

Murphy
08-30-2010, 12:27 PM
Wulfhere, do you know why I am such a successful Popetroll? It is because I am actually a Catholic.

You are trying to be a religious-troll as well.. but it wont work for you because well.. you're not seriously a pagan (in the Psycho' sense).

You're doing it wrong.

Wulfhere
08-30-2010, 12:47 PM
An electronic implant can sense alcohol and hormones released during sexual activity and orgasm, but I'm afraid it will be useless to prevent oral sex - a woman can perform oral sex on a man without getting excited and releasing hormones.

In which case, it hardly counts as sex, or at least as something that's sexually stimulating. Nevertheless, oral sex is certainly banned too - sometimes, you just have to trust people. Since they'll be watched at all times and never alone, I don't think it'll be a problem.

Wulfhere
08-30-2010, 12:49 PM
Wulfhere, do you know why I am such a successful Popetroll? It is because I am actually a Catholic.

You are trying to be a religious-troll as well.. but it wont work for you because well.. you're not seriously a pagan (in the Psycho' sense).

You're doing it wrong.

I wouldn't actually regard myself as a troll - so yes, I'm certainly doing it "wrong". But I don't know why you don't think I'm a Pagan, because I am.

Troll's Puzzle
08-30-2010, 12:56 PM
I'm sooo upset that I turned 26 a few months ago, making me too old to enrol at the college :cry

Megrez
08-30-2010, 12:59 PM
Actually I admire the purpose of DoF to some extent. It's just the idea of 1,200 deep knee-bends a day and meat abstention that makes me worry about the health of the girls...

Wulfhere
08-30-2010, 01:02 PM
I'm sooo upset that I turned 26 a few months ago, making me too old to enrol at the college :cry

Indeed - by quite a few years I'm afraid, since you have to be eighteen to enrol. We'll still need interim members of staff though until they can be trained up.

Wulfhere
08-30-2010, 01:04 PM
Actually I admire the purpose of DoF to some extent. It's just the idea of 1,200 deep knee-bends a day and meat abstention that makes me worry about the health of the girls...

The knee-bends are pretty similar to squat exercises, which, though physically demanding, are not injurious to health if done correctly.

Matritensis
08-30-2010, 01:07 PM
About the number,I'm still confused.But I've found an extraordinary (and probably not casual) connection between these two images:

5671

5672

Baron Samedi
08-30-2010, 04:10 PM
I must be the only person on here that finds Wulfhere hilarious as shit.

Treffie
08-30-2010, 04:27 PM
Hmm, me thinks that this is the Edgbaston Female Cricket Team (with twelfth woman) :p

Fraud

http://frya.angelfire.com/index_files/image005.jpg

Loki
08-30-2010, 06:36 PM
Hmm, me thinks that this is the Edgbaston Female Cricket Team (with twelfth woman) :p


You mean ... the Edgbaston Female Cricket team actually indulges in deep knee bends? What is the world coming to? :eek:

Wulfhere
08-30-2010, 11:09 PM
Hmm, me thinks that this is the Edgbaston Female Cricket Team (with twelfth woman) :p

Fraud

http://frya.angelfire.com/index_files/image005.jpg

Nope, 'fraid not.

Oinakos Growion
08-30-2010, 11:22 PM
[oral sex] hardly counts as sex, or at least as something that's sexually stimulating
This explains many things...

Wulfhere
08-30-2010, 11:26 PM
This explains many things...

If you read the original point you would see it was in regard to a woman who felt no sexual stimulation whilst doing it. Obviously, I wasn't talking about the recipient.

Guapo
08-30-2010, 11:36 PM
:mad: You do not know a single bit about fashion and style when you browse total useless internet gallerys and compare your mongolid hottys with european women! Or leave your degenerated citys, will you?!? Ad sorry what do you know?? You have complexes and your mind is bound to your old chinese girlfriend ----:mad: you cant get over it and your mind is locked! And what joke you are suggesting to me? I should throw away my northern european fashion to copy childish looking japanese stinky fruits? Improvement by giving up native style and copying mongolids! :mad:

But okay you dont need to worry: Many other men in this thread are sick like you. Neger fever, yellow fever, arab fever, india fever , race mixing fever, mulatto fever.....:mad:many diagnosis and only one solution: Someone need to cut your eggs off to prevent you from doing more harm to european people, yes, sterilisation!! I only need to read what some write they sound like desperate losers who get no woman and now seek excuses to like foreign women. Better you dont have any offsprings before you put your parents and greatparents to shame and harm your country with vietnamese mail brides, fat neger mamas or japanese porno stars!! You slap european women in the face with your foreignphilia and then you wonder why you get no partner?? Stop surfing asian gallerys and leave the housedoor!:mad:

......sorry guys, i was having an inese moment there :(

Blood Trinity
08-31-2010, 01:37 AM
Hahaha, well played.

Baron Samedi
08-31-2010, 06:18 AM
:mad: You do not know a single bit about fashion and style when you browse total useless internet gallerys and compare your mongolid hottys with european women! Or leave your degenerated citys, will you?!? Ad sorry what do you know?? You have complexes and your mind is bound to your old chinese girlfriend ----:mad: you cant get over it and your mind is locked! And what joke you are suggesting to me? I should throw away my northern european fashion to copy childish looking japanese stinky fruits? Improvement by giving up native style and copying mongolids! :mad:

But okay you dont need to worry: Many other men in this thread are sick like you. Neger fever, yellow fever, arab fever, india fever , race mixing fever, mulatto fever.....:mad:many diagnosis and only one solution: Someone need to cut your eggs off to prevent you from doing more harm to european people, yes, sterilisation!! I only need to read what some write they sound like desperate losers who get no woman and now seek excuses to like foreign women. Better you dont have any offsprings before you put your parents and greatparents to shame and harm your country with vietnamese mail brides, fat neger mamas or japanese porno stars!! You slap european women in the face with your foreignphilia and then you wonder why you get no partner?? Stop surfing asian gallerys and leave the housedoor!:mad:

......sorry guys, i was having an inese moment there :(

She's a classy bitch, no doubt. :cool: :thumb001:

Treffie
08-31-2010, 07:18 AM
:mad: You do not know a single bit about fashion and style when you browse total useless internet gallerys and compare your mongolid hottys with european women! Or leave your degenerated citys, will you?!? Ad sorry what do you know?? You have complexes and your mind is bound to your old chinese girlfriend ----:mad: you cant get over it and your mind is locked! And what joke you are suggesting to me? I should throw away my northern european fashion to copy childish looking japanese stinky fruits? Improvement by giving up native style and copying mongolids! :mad:

But okay you dont need to worry: Many other men in this thread are sick like you. Neger fever, yellow fever, arab fever, india fever , race mixing fever, mulatto fever.....:mad:many diagnosis and only one solution: Someone need to cut your eggs off to prevent you from doing more harm to european people, yes, sterilisation!! I only need to read what some write they sound like desperate losers who get no woman and now seek excuses to like foreign women. Better you dont have any offsprings before you put your parents and greatparents to shame and harm your country with vietnamese mail brides, fat neger mamas or japanese porno stars!! You slap european women in the face with your foreignphilia and then you wonder why you get no partner?? Stop surfing asian gallerys and leave the housedoor!:mad:

......sorry guys, i was having an inese moment there :(

Nah, nothing like her - not enough emoticons :D

Wulfhere
08-31-2010, 07:30 AM
The tower depicted on the website, by the way, is Perrott's Folly in Edgbaston, Birmingham, and is used here as a perfect example of the sort of premises the college will require. When it is finally up and running, however, we may have to find somewhere else - although Perrott's Folly is currently disused, its current owners may not wish to lease it to us. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perrott%27s_Folly)

Ken was partially right when he suggested the uniforms shown might have been those of a women's cricket team - though not the Edgbaston one. The uniform depicted was worn by women cricketers until 1997, when it was changed to something similar to the men's uniform. The former uniform, with the skirts, socks etc. is precisely the one we will be adopting for the priestesses.

The website is a statement of intent, of the college I intend to found.

poiuytrewq0987
08-31-2010, 08:55 AM
The tower depicted on the website, by the way, is Perrott's Folly in Edgbaston, Birmingham, and is used here as a perfect example of the sort of premises the college will require. When it is finally up and running, however, we may have to find somewhere else - although Perrott's Folly is currently disused, its current owners may not wish to lease it to us. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perrott%27s_Folly)

Ken was partially right when he suggested the uniforms shown might have been those of a women's cricket team - though not the Edgbaston one. The uniform depicted was worn by women cricketers until 1997, when it was changed to something similar to the men's uniform. The former uniform, with the skirts, socks etc. is precisely the one we will be adopting for the priestesses.

The website is a statement of intent, of the college I intend to found.

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052009/1243608790_robot-dance.gif

poiuytrewq0987
08-31-2010, 09:57 AM
A typical day at Wolfy's imaginary camp...

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/082010/1282645288_headbanger-bangs-head.gif

Wyn
08-31-2010, 11:03 AM
The tower depicted on the website, by the way, is Perrott's Folly in Edgbaston, Birmingham, and is used here as a perfect example of the sort of premises the college will require. When it is finally up and running, however, we may have to find somewhere else - although Perrott's Folly is currently disused, its current owners may not wish to lease it to us. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perrott%27s_Folly)

Ken was partially right when he suggested the uniforms shown might have been those of a women's cricket team - though not the Edgbaston one. The uniform depicted was worn by women cricketers until 1997, when it was changed to something similar to the men's uniform. The former uniform, with the skirts, socks etc. is precisely the one we will be adopting for the priestesses.

The website is a statement of intent, of the college I intend to found.

So, who actually are the women shown in the pictures?

Also...since you don't officially have a premises, what you do if 80 sets of parents contacted you tomorrow saying that they wanted their daughters to enroll? Would you quickly try to find a suitable location, tell them all that they had to wait a while?

Tolleson
08-31-2010, 12:48 PM
Wow. Summer boredom must be in full swing. :coffee:

A thread with 7 pages of sheer stupidity. Life is too short, my friends. ;)

Blood Trinity
08-31-2010, 02:44 PM
She's a classy bitch, no doubt. :cool: :thumb001:

Inese isn't gone for good, is she? :(

poiuytrewq0987
08-31-2010, 02:56 PM
Inese isn't gone for good, is she? :(

I couldn't care less about the attention whore.

Groenewolf
08-31-2010, 02:58 PM
I couldn't care less about the attention whore.

But is did not bring back Svanhild.

poiuytrewq0987
08-31-2010, 03:02 PM
But is did not bring back Svanhild.

Hm, I thought they were best buds or something? Oh well, I couldn't care less about the drama here.

Wulfhere
08-31-2010, 04:04 PM
So, who actually are the women shown in the pictures?

Also...since you don't officially have a premises, what you do if 80 sets of parents contacted you tomorrow saying that they wanted their daughters to enroll? Would you quickly try to find a suitable location, tell them all that they had to wait a while?

Well, should 80 sets of parents contact me tomorrow for a start off we'd have a much bigger college than I intend. However, even with almost full bursaries which almost everyone will be elibible for, we would have enough cash to lease some pretty good premises for next year's intake - indeed, we'd have a full 12 months to organise everything. (It's a bit late for any students to enroll this year, as tomorrow's the first day of term.) The women in the photos, by the way, were students at the college I attended.

Groenewolf
08-31-2010, 04:08 PM
The women in the photos, by the way, were students at the college I attended.

Did you had their permission for this?

Wulfhere
08-31-2010, 04:09 PM
Did you had their permission for this?

Of course.

Groenewolf
08-31-2010, 04:15 PM
Of course.

Also when you used pictures from porn-sites?

Wulfhere
08-31-2010, 04:17 PM
Also when you used pictures from porn-sites?

Lol no, that pic was all over the internet. There's nothing pornographic about this.

poiuytrewq0987
08-31-2010, 04:20 PM
Lol no, that pic was all over the internet. There's nothing pornagraphic about this.

http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv348/TRAGICPHILL/AttentionWhore.jpg

Fortis in Arduis
08-31-2010, 06:07 PM
lol @ bollocky bollox. ;)

Wulfhere
09-02-2010, 03:04 PM
Just had our first serious enquiry since the new website was put up, from someone who followed our link on the Groep fan Auwerk site (http://www.groepfanauwerk.com/). Looks like the viral marketing campaign we've been conducting since 2005 is finally starting to pay off - and I make no apologies for that at all. What I'm doing here is actually trying make a difference, rather than simply indulge in endless, empty talk.

Sarmata
09-02-2010, 05:54 PM
The prohibition against orgasm and sexual activity is strictly enforced and monitored with an electronic implant – any lapse, whatever its cause, results in immediate expulsion without appeal. It is the responsibility of every priestess to conduct herself so as to guard against accidents. If a priestess fails to complete her full quota of 1,200 knee-bends on any given day she must do twice that number the following day, with the excess made up during her designated sleep periods. If the problem persists she is deemed incapable of completing the course and expelled.


:D:D:D

Murphy
09-02-2010, 05:59 PM
I do not know what is scarier.. that Wulfhere has given so much thought to his trolling or that he may be telling the truth.

poiuytrewq0987
09-02-2010, 06:36 PM
The nutcase even has a Frya facebook of his own. :coffee:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Oera-Linda/100000680405750
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=291132516203#!/profile.php?id=100000696905907 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=291132516203#%21/profile.php?id=100000696905907)

On there you can see that he "liked" the Frisian group there on Facebook.

Wulfhere
09-02-2010, 11:28 PM
The nutcase even has a Frya facebook of his own. :coffee:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Oera-Linda/100000680405750
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=291132516203#!/profile.php?id=100000696905907 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=291132516203#%21/profile.php?id=100000696905907)

On there you can see that he "liked" the Frisian group there on Facebook.

A Facebook group and many other outlets too. It's called establishing a brand name. Try Google with "daughters of frya" and you'll see we have 6,970 hits. I'm doing something constructive - what are you doing?

poiuytrewq0987
09-02-2010, 11:30 PM
A Facebook group and many other outlets too. It's called establishing a brand name. Try Google with "daughters of frya" and you'll see we have 6,970 hits. I'm doing something constructive - what are you doing?

You're a nutcase with a backwards obsession who has been trolling here for god knows how long.

Wulfhere
09-02-2010, 11:32 PM
You're a nutcase with a backwards obsession who has been trolling here for god knows how long.

Trolling is a matter of opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you recently banned temporarily for doing just that?

People may not agree with what I do, but at least I'm happy to engage in constructive debate.

poiuytrewq0987
09-02-2010, 11:34 PM
Trolling is a matter of opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you recently banned temporarily for doing just that?

Nope.


People may not agree with what I do, but at least I'm happy to engage in constructive debate.

You use "constructive debate" as a mask.

Wulfhere
09-02-2010, 11:37 PM
Nope.



You use "constructive debate" as a mask.

No, I don't. I have never indulged in personal attacks and will always answer any criticism of what I propose.

poiuytrewq0987
09-02-2010, 11:38 PM
No, I don't. I have never indulged in personal attacks and will always answer any criticism of what I propose.

Trolling isn't all about personal attacks. You and Daughters of Frya (and Kornelia, remember her?) along with "constructive debate' is also a form of trolling.

Wulfhere
09-02-2010, 11:40 PM
Trolling isn't all about personal attacks. You and Daughters of Frya (and Kornelia, remember her?) along with "constructive debate' is also a form of trolling.

Trolling is as trolling does. What I think is the problem is that I'm doing something, and you're not. So who's the troll?

poiuytrewq0987
09-02-2010, 11:41 PM
Trolling is as trolling does. What I think is the problem is that I'm doing something, and you're not. So who's the troll?

Ah-ha, nice try. If I'm doing nothing that means I'm not doing anything including trolling and since you're doing something that could mean you are trolling.

Wulfhere
09-02-2010, 11:43 PM
Ah-ha, nice try. If I'm doing nothing that means I'm not doing anything including trolling and since you're doing something that could mean you are trolling.

I shall not play verbal games with you. My meaning was quite clear.

poiuytrewq0987
09-02-2010, 11:46 PM
I shall not play verbal games with you. My meaning was quite clear.

Right. I don't care anyhow since I'm not the troll police; merely pointing out the obvious.

Psychonaut
09-02-2010, 11:59 PM
Contender 1: someone who has fessed up to using what he is now claiming to be genuine as a trolling platform.

Contender 2: someone whose very online "identity" seems to be a constantly evolving act of trollage.

The Victor: No one—or both of them—depending on how entertaining your find their antics. "Oh pot," sayeth the kettle, "thou are black."

Treffie
09-03-2010, 12:04 AM
Contender 1: someone who has fessed up to using what he is now claiming to be genuine as a trolling platform.

Contender 2: someone whose very online "identity" seems to be a constantly evolving act of trollage.

The Victor: No one—or both of them—depending on how entertaining your find their antics. "Oh pot," sayeth the kettle, "thou are black."

http://trollercoaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/logo.png

Megrez
09-03-2010, 02:26 AM
However, there is a widespread belief that the Daughters of Freya do not exist. The one item that we found convincing was their list of requirements for each Daughter: they must perform 1,200 deep knee-bends daily. One of the ReligiousTolerance.org staff members who is a nurse and a fitness buff believes that this many repeats would wreck their knees rather quickly.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/neopaga1.htm

Wulfhere
09-03-2010, 07:57 AM
http://www.religioustolerance.org/neopaga1.htm

As it happens, the Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance - who used to support us by the way and even suggested where we could get a domain name from - are incorrect. The ritual is basically a squat, which is perfectly fine if you do it correctly. Furthermore, unlike most squatting exercises, we don't use weights.


If you don’t Squat, you’re not training period. The Squat is the most important weight training exercise because it works your whole body, not just your legs. That’s why Squats are key to the StrongLifts 5×5 Program.

This guide will teach you how to Squat with correct technique using free weights so you achieve maximum strength and muscle gains without hurting yourself.

http://stronglifts.com/how-to-squat-with-proper-technique-fix-common-problems/

Osweo
09-05-2010, 02:23 AM
"thou are black."
:tsk: Grammer pleace?

Annoying thing about Wulfie, as well as his persistence, is that he's actually done a lot to damage any future drive to adopt Modern English names for the gods, that conform to regular sound shifts that have occured since 1066. 'Frya' is actually a half decent approximation of how Frige would have ended up, but will now forever be linked (thanks to Google) with this squatting bollocks. :rolleyes2:

poiuytrewq0987
09-05-2010, 02:31 AM
Why do we still let this idiot parade his BS on the Apricity using the forum as a mouthpiece?

Brynhild
09-05-2010, 04:45 AM
Interesting that your wheel has six spokes and yet you claim this to be the wheel of the year. :confused:

I have posted a wheel of the year for the sake of comparison:
http://www.daniellewilson.com/userimages/wheel_of_year.gif

In Pagan lore there are four Quarter days of Imbolc (EarlySpring), Beltaine (Early Summer), Lugnasadh or Lammas (Early Autumn) and Samhain (Early Winter), while the cross quarter days are the Equinoxes and Solstices. This wheel has long been recognised for having eight spokes whereas your image only shows six. Have I missed something?

On the other hand, the only six spoked wheel I've seen are either on bikes or cars. There are many things about you that I just don't get, but frankly, this takes the cake.

Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 08:46 AM
:tsk: Grammer pleace?

Annoying thing about Wulfie, as well as his persistence, is that he's actually done a lot to damage any future drive to adopt Modern English names for the gods, that conform to regular sound shifts that have occured since 1066. 'Frya' is actually a half decent approximation of how Frige would have ended up, but will now forever be linked (thanks to Google) with this squatting bollocks. :rolleyes2:

Frya is the Frisian name for the goddess, and Frisian is indeed the closest relative of English.

Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 08:53 AM
Interesting that your wheel has six spokes and yet you claim this to be the wheel of the year. :confused:

I have posted a wheel of the year for the sake of comparison:
http://www.daniellewilson.com/userimages/wheel_of_year.gif

In Pagan lore there are four Quarter days of Imbolc (EarlySpring), Beltaine (Early Summer), Lugnasadh or Lammas (Early Autumn) and Samhain (Early Winter), while the cross quarter days are the Equinoxes and Solstices. This wheel has long been recognised for having eight spokes whereas your image only shows six. Have I missed something?

On the other hand, the only six spoked wheel I've seen are either on bikes or cars. There are many things about you that I just don't get, but frankly, this takes the cake.

You're perfectly correct, modern Paganism does use an 8-spoked wheel. This came about in the 1950s when Gerald Gardner, founder of Wicca, and Ross Nichols, head of the main Druid order, drew it up. Prior to that the Wiccans had only been using the 4 Greater Sabbats, and the Druids the 4 solstices and equinoxes. They basically decided to merge the celebrations.

The 6-spoked wheel, known as the Kroder, is specifically described in the Oera Linda Book as representing time and the turning of the year - and if you think about it, since the solar year has 12 months, 6 is a much more sensible division than 8. However much older it may be, the Oera Linda Book certainly predates Gardner and Nichols by nearly a century.

Monolith
09-05-2010, 11:18 AM
The prohibition against orgasm and sexual activity is strictly enforced and monitored with an electronic implant – any lapse, whatever its cause, results in immediate expulsion without appeal. It is the responsibility of every priestess to conduct herself so as to guard against accidents.
What if one of your priestesses has an orgasm in her sleep? Surely, the electronic implant will be able to detect it.






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Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 11:21 AM
What if one of your priestesses has an orgasm in her sleep? Surely, the electronic implant will detect it.

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Then she is expelled. The rule is there for a reason. Orgasm releases sexual energy, and the priestess needs to use and redirect that energy in ritual.

Megrez
09-05-2010, 01:32 PM
Interesting that your wheel has six spokes and yet you claim this to be the wheel of the year. :confused:

I have posted a wheel of the year for the sake of comparison:
http://www.daniellewilson.com/userimages/wheel_of_year.gif
Interesting that the inner wheel in this wheel also has 6 spokes :eusa_eh:

Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 01:33 PM
Interesting that the inner wheel in this image also has 6 spokes :eusa_eh:

Yes, good point.

Osweo
09-05-2010, 05:02 PM
http://www.daniellewilson.com/userimages/wheel_of_year.gif
Dearie me... 'Lammas' instead of Lughnasad... ;)

On the other hand, the only six spoked wheel I've seen are either on bikes or cars.
Well, there is the 'Thunder Sign' of Russian folklore. Its cousins are seen in the Hex Signs of Pennsylvania and the like too, and are hardly unknown anywhere in Europe, I shun't think.

Frya is the Frisian name for the goddess, and Frisian is indeed the closest relative of English.
Are you Frisian? No, so leave well alone. I actually doubt that the final -a is native to any true unbroken Frisian tradition anyway, as it looks like a primitive Latinisation. 'Fry' alone might be best of all for Modern English.

What if one of your priestesses has an orgasm in her sleep? Surely, the electronic implant will be able to detect it.
Doubtless her head will be blown off... :D

(Hang on - do girls even have orgasms in their sleep?!? :embarrassed)

Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 06:37 PM
Dearie me... 'Lammas' instead of Lughnasad... ;)

Well, there is the 'Thunder Sign' of Russian folklore. Its cousins are seen in the Hex Signs of Pennsylvania and the like too, and are hardly unknown anywhere in Europe, I shun't think.

Are you Frisian? No, so leave well alone. I actually doubt that the final -a is native to any true unbroken Frisian tradition anyway, as it looks like a primitive Latinisation. 'Fry' alone might be best of all for Modern English.

Doubtless her head will be blown off... :D

(Hang on - do girls even have orgasms in their sleep?!? :embarrassed)

It's odd isn't it, but modern Paganism does indeed tend to use Lammas but the Irish names for the others.

Many Frisian words end in a - well, Frisian words in the Oera Linda Book, anyway. But that's written in an older form of the language.

Psychonaut
09-05-2010, 07:30 PM
Its cousins are seen in the Hex Signs of Pennsylvania and the like too, and are hardly unknown anywhere in Europe, I shun't think.

How could we forget the most likely source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagalaz) of the six-pointed Hex star:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/16/Hagal_rune_white_on_black.svg/300px-Hagal_rune_white_on_black.svg.png

Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 08:06 PM
How could we forget the most likely source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagalaz) of the six-pointed Hex star:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/16/Hagal_rune_white_on_black.svg/300px-Hagal_rune_white_on_black.svg.png

Yes, I'm sure it's closely connected. If you look at the alphabet used by the Oera Linda Book - http://oeralinda.angelfire.com/#at (scroll down slightly) - you will see it is all based around the Kroder symbol. Also bear in mind that this was published 40 years before von List came up with his Armanen Runes. The written form of the alphabet is even called "RUN" - rather similar to "rune".

Osweo
09-05-2010, 08:42 PM
Many Frisian words end in a - well, Frisian words in the Oera Linda Book, anyway.
:tongue

But that's written in an older form of the language.
:rotfl:

I'm sick of hearing of this bullshit fantasy 'book', though. :mad: Every time it's brought up, I feel a tiresome duty to say what charlatanry it is, just in case the less informed are reading. :rolleyes2::(

Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 08:45 PM
:tongue

:rotfl:

I'm sick of hearing of this bullshit fantasy 'book', though. :mad: Every time it's brought up, I feel a tiresome duty to say what charlatanry it is, just in case the less informed are reading. :rolleyes2::(

It has been rather more influential than people often give it credit for. And its techniques work, too.

Monolith
09-05-2010, 08:52 PM
(Hang on - do girls even have orgasms in their sleep?!? :embarrassed)
Sure they do, for some reason.

Osweo
09-05-2010, 09:22 PM
Sure they do, for some reason.

THose you've hypnotised or drugged don't count, you wicked (but accomplished) perv!

Psychonaut
09-05-2010, 09:43 PM
It has been rather more influential than people often give it credit for. And its techniques work, too.

The same could be said of any number of occult texts with accompanying pseudohistories. Efficacy and influence do not serve as indicators of historical authenticity.

Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 09:48 PM
The same could be said of any number of occult texts with accompanying pseudohistories. Efficacy and influence do not serve as indicators of historical authenticity.

One should never be so quick to believe the academic consensus when vested interests are at stake - namely, the desire of the Dutch establishment to deny the Frisians an ancient history and culture of their own.

Osweo
09-05-2010, 09:56 PM
One should never be so quick to believe the academic consensus when vested interests are at stake - namely, the desire of the Dutch establishment to deny the Frisians an ancient history and culture of their own.

I hate to admit it, but I actually read a bit of it. And it's the most idiotic pathetic amateur bullshit I've ever wasted my precious time on.

Except perhaps for the 'Book of Veles', the 'Slavonic Vedas'.... :eek:

Psychonaut
09-05-2010, 09:57 PM
One should never be so quick to believe the academic consensus when vested interests are at stake - namely, the desire of the Dutch establishment to deny the Frisians an ancient history and culture of their own.

Academic consensus is by no means an assurance of the validity of any proposition, but in the case of this text, the available evidence gives the critical investigator no reason to believe the text's claims about its origins. Intratextual anachronisms are quite damning for any purportedly ancient manuscript.

Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 10:03 PM
I hate to admit it, but I actually read a bit of it. And it's the most idiotic pathetic amateur bullshit I've ever wasted my precious time on.

Except perhaps for the 'Book of Veles', the 'Slavonic Vedas'.... :eek:

Which verson did you read? The exact, word-for-word 1876 translation by William Sandbach can be found here:

http://oeralinda.angelfire.com/

Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 10:05 PM
Academic consensus is by no means an assurance of the validity of any proposition, but in the case of this text, the available evidence gives the critical investigator no reason to believe the text's claims about its origins. Intratextual anachronisms are quite damning for any purportedly ancient manuscript.

The book bears a date of 1256 but it also tells each custodian to copy it on new paper. The current manuscript is obviously 19th century, but certainly includes older material, stories and legends, perhaps retold.

Osweo
09-05-2010, 10:20 PM
Which verson did you read? The exact, word-for-word 1876 translation by William Sandbach can be found here:

http://oeralinda.angelfire.com/
Yep, I followed your same link.

The book bears a date of 1256 but it also tells each custodian to copy it on new paper. The current manuscript is obviously 19th century, but certainly includes older material, stories and legends, perhaps retold.
:rolleyes:

It's pure fantasy, or should that be 'poor'. It's badly rehashed Atlantis New Age bollocks, and purports to provide a version of Germanic history that conforms in NO way with that we can work out from first principles, never mind the findings of archaeology, anthropology, linguistics, genetics and so on. It's pure drivel.

Wulfhere
09-05-2010, 10:23 PM
Yep, I followed your same link.

:rolleyes:

It's pure fantasy, or should that be 'poor'. It's badly rehashed Atlantis New Age bollocks, and purports to provide a version of Germanic history that conforms in NO way with that we can work out from first principles, never mind the findings of archaeology, anthropology, linguistics, genetics and so on. It's pure drivel.

Not so muched "rehashed" Atlantis New Age stuff as starting the whole thing off - it predates Donnelly, Blavatsky, and all the others.

Loddfafner
09-05-2010, 11:01 PM
For those who came in late, I suggest you peruse these threads:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13906
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11175

Please take special note of this post in particular. (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182127&postcount=87)

The Lawspeaker
09-06-2010, 10:28 AM
One should never be so quick to believe the academic consensus when vested interests are at stake - namely, the desire of the Dutch establishment to deny the Frisians an ancient history and culture of their own.
There is a quick word for what you're saying here. Bullocks.

In the Netherlands it is widely accepted that the Frisians are a minority group and their language and culture are being widely accepted. No-- it's more just to say that it is very popular. Frisian musicians and Frisian poets and Frisian history general have formed our national history and character just as much as poets, musicians and history in general from the other provinces.

Ooh may I remind you by the way that Frisia joined the Netherlands on it's own accord and joined us in a war for national self-determination: the Eighty Years War.
Having said that: with the dawn of the unitary state (thanks to the French and later on the House of Orange) all provices were just as much kept down and it took until 1951 for Frisian to be re-recognized as a language (and an additional detail: all provincial flags were banned until 1953 and the majority of them have been redesigned since). Right now Frisian is one of the official languages in the province of Frisia and by proxy the secondary language of the Netherlands.

The Lawspeaker
09-06-2010, 10:29 AM
Ooh by the way, lads, guess what I found (http://emailmystery.com/dof/index.php)...

And then suddenly... this (http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Daughters-of-Frya). I am going to see whether I can find this 2004 Dutch program.



In 2004 the Daughters of Frya were featured in an unfavourable light on Dutch TV, and attracted the attentions of anti-cult groups in Australia and elsewhere. The following year (2005) witnessed a number of fake websites purporting to be officially sanctioned by the organisation, but which were later revealed to be hoaxes perpetrated by former members. Since then, the Daughters of Frya have refused all contact with representatives of the media.




On Wulfhere's website (http://frya.angelfire.com/) there is this address btw. I checked it: it was a rather shabby-looking residence in Birmingham.
Maybe someone could send a couple of Her Majesty's blueshirts down to check up:


Daughters of Frya Priestesses’ Taining College
Waterworks Road, B’ham, B16 9AL

I didn't alter the spelling btw. I copied and pasted it.

Wulfhere
09-07-2010, 12:48 PM
There is a quick word for what you're saying here. Bullocks.

In the Netherlands it is widely accepted that the Frisians are a minority group and their language and culture are being widely accepted. No-- it's more just to say that it is very popular. Frisian musicians and Frisian poets and Frisian history general have formed our national history and character just as much as poets, musicians and history in general from the other provinces.

Ooh may I remind you by the way that Frisia joined the Netherlands on it's own accord and joined us in a war for national self-determination: the Eighty Years War.
Having said that: with the dawn of the unitary state (thanks to the French and later on the House of Orange) all provices were just as much kept down and it took until 1951 for Frisian to be re-recognized as a language (and an additional detail: all provincial flags were banned until 1953 and the majority of them have been redesigned since). Right now Frisian is one of the official languages in the province of Frisia and by proxy the secondary language of the Netherlands.


Things were different in the 19th century though when the Dutch academic establishment reached its decision about the Oera Linda Book, ensuring no further onjective study has been carried out on it.

Wulfhere
09-07-2010, 12:50 PM
Ooh by the way, lads, guess what I found (http://emailmystery.com/dof/index.php)...

And then suddenly... this (http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Daughters-of-Frya). I am going to see whether I can find this 2004 Dutch program.




On Wulfhere's website (http://frya.angelfire.com/) there is this address btw. I checked it: it was a rather shabby-looking residence in Birmingham.
Maybe someone could send a couple of Her Majesty's blueshirts down to check up:



I didn't alter the spelling btw. I copied and pasted it.

Notice the e-mail mystery is spelt "Freya". It has nothing to do with us.

Fortis in Arduis
09-07-2010, 01:15 PM
So, what about the community in New South Wales?

Wulfhere
09-07-2010, 01:16 PM
So, what about the community in New South Wales?

It was a branch of the Ordo Anno Mundi.

Fortis in Arduis
09-07-2010, 01:55 PM
It was a branch of the Ordo Anno Mundi.

'Was'? What happened?

Who were/are the Ordi Anno Mundi?

Wulfhere
09-07-2010, 01:58 PM
'Was'? What happened?

Who were/are the Ordi Anno Mundi?

It closed down. The Ordo Anno Mundi was a postal and later Internet-based training order I founded in 1985.

Fortis in Arduis
09-07-2010, 04:42 PM
It closed down. The Ordo Anno Mundi was a postal and later Internet-based training order I founded in 1985.

Did the New South Wales community actually exist? :rolleyes:

Wulfhere
09-07-2010, 04:48 PM
Did the New South Wales community actually exist? :rolleyes:

Yes, we had an active branch in New South Wales.

poiuytrewq0987
09-08-2010, 12:00 AM
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6930/1282855171617.gif

poiuytrewq0987
09-08-2010, 12:03 AM
This is one of the Daughters doing teh squat.

http://cache.imagefap.com/images/full/41/363/363991818.jpg

Electronic God-Man
09-16-2010, 12:54 AM
The Saxon Greeting, or Sachsengruss, is a gymnastic routine made famous by the Werk Glaube und Schönheit (Belief and Beauty Society), an organisation set up in Nazi Germany for young women aged between 17 and 21, and part of the Bund Deutscher Mädel (League of German Girls). The routine involved rhythmic dancing and knee bending exercises specifically designed to show off the female physique, and the dancers wore short white gymnastic outfits similar to those of the Women's League of Health and Beauty in the UK. In the years prior to the Second World War the society often toured outside Germany giving displays in other countries.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-2000-0110-500%2C_BDM%2C_Gymnastikvorf%C3%BChrung.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxon_Greeting

?

poiuytrewq0987
09-16-2010, 01:05 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-2000-0110-500%2C_BDM%2C_Gymnastikvorf%C3%BChrung.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxon_Greeting

?


I read before that Heinrich Himmler took great interest in Oera Linda and hence the creation of this Saxon thingy.

Groenewolf
09-16-2010, 03:10 AM
I read before that Heinrich Himmler took great interest in Oera Linda and hence the creation of this Saxon thingy.

One of his research staff had a strong interest in it. That was at least until the standards for recruitment became higher.

Wulfhere
09-17-2010, 12:42 PM
One of his research staff had a strong interest in it. That was at least until the standards for recruitment became higher.

Since the Oera Linda Book appeared for translation and publication in the 1870s, it can hardly be held responsible for anything the Nazis did with it.

The Ripper
09-17-2010, 12:44 PM
Since the Oera Linda Book appeared for translation and publication in the 1870s, it can hardly be held responsible for anything the Nazis did with it.

Wulfhere likes Nazistuff.

Voitto
09-17-2010, 12:48 PM
The fact you have a free Angelfire domain makes the whole thing seem very low-grade.

Sultan Suleiman
07-13-2012, 10:32 AM
Is this guy trolling or something :D

Loki
08-10-2013, 08:36 PM
Damn, this website doesn't exist anymore? :/

Loki
08-10-2013, 08:46 PM
The priestesshood looks interesting:

http://d2bm3ljpacyxu8.cloudfront.net/width/360/crop/0,0,360x300/sovereignmercia.webs.com/jpgkneeling360.jpg

http://d2bm3ljpacyxu8.cloudfront.net/width/360/crop/0,0,360x303/sovereignmercia.webs.com/jpgfolkm360.jpg

Loki
05-07-2014, 12:03 AM
Bump! :thumb001:

Prisoner Of Ice
05-07-2014, 12:09 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-2000-0110-500%2C_BDM%2C_Gymnastikvorf%C3%BChrung.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxon_Greeting

?

Why do I suspect the current batch will be fat and swarthy?

Prisoner Of Ice
05-07-2014, 12:13 AM
http://api.ning.com/files/FRI4lmbguwsboeESNmdDKSryLhAymVLY*G7dPzq3FeNzv-jrPm-ZlegKbkwYalNuoN1r5SiCJT3DVQnNl3IvYrDFWDGnuGKJ/battle.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/GMY2p5ejJW*ssv*pw8sRrtFznFcIhM0ZlhZd94dOAHsY0xHzQ2 vwu6VcB8wlt7QCV6qHdv*3hvGoVjn-t1boFbcul3qa4jtY/f8.jpg

Sign me up.

Loki
05-07-2014, 12:14 AM
Why do I suspect the current batch will be fat and swarthy?

I've seen schooltrips in London from northern Germany. Most of them are blond.