Judging by my genetics, which ethnic group would you say I am?

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Which ethnic group would you guess me as, judging only by my genetics? What population gets genetics most similar to me?

Eurogenes_ANE K7:

Population
ANE: 17.05%
ASE: 1.18%
WHG-UHG: 63.10%
East_Eurasian: 0.24%
West_African: 0.86%
East_African:
ENF: 17.52%

Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer:

Population
Anatolian Farmer: 11.63%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer: 57.95%
Middle Eastern Herder:
East Asian Farmer:
South American Hunter Gatherer: 0.35%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer:
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer: 0.31%
East African Pastoralist:
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer: 0.14%
Mediterranean Farmer: 29.47%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer: 0.15%
Bantu Farmer:

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic: 47.22%
Baltic: 26.55%
West_Med: 11.01%
West_Asian: 10.79%
East_Med: 1.93%
Red_Sea: 0.47%
South_Asian:
East_Asian :
Siberian: 0.62%
Amerindian: 0.14%
Oceanian: 0.64%
Northeast_African: 0.60%
Sub-Saharan:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 4.16
2 North_Dutch 5.26
3 Danish 5.56
4 Norwegian 6.14
5 Irish 6.57
6 Swedish 6.7
7 Orcadian 6.77
8 West_Scottish 7.65
9 Southeast_English 7.92
10 Southwest_English 8.57
11 South_Dutch 8.91
12 West_German 9.05
13 Austrian 11.62
14 East_German 11.92
15 North_Swedish 11.96
16 French 14.92
17 Hungarian 15.79
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.36
19 South_Polish 20.55
20 Croatian 20.79

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15:

Population
North_Sea : 32.76%
Atlantic: 28.78%
Baltic: 13.78%
Eastern_Euro: 9.31%
West_Med: 6.23%
West_Asian: 8.01%
East_Med:
Red_Sea: 0.13%
South_Asian:
Southeast_Asian:
Siberian: 0.12%
Amerindian:
Oceanian: 0.36%
Northeast_African: 0.51%
Sub-Saharan:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 3.6
2 Danish 6.04
3 North_Dutch 6.1
4 Irish 6.11
5 Southeast_English 6.71
6 West_Scottish 6.81
7 Southwest_English 7.47
8 South_Dutch 7.95
9 Orcadian 8.52
10 Norwegian 9.26
11 Swedish 9.37
12 West_German 10.1
13 West_Norwegian 10.55
14 East_German 10.77
15 North_Swedish 11.31
16 French 12.98
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.89
18 Austrian 14.29
19 Hungarian 15.47
20 Finnish 17.28

Eurogenes K9b:

Population
Southwest_Asian: 10.20%
Native_American: 1.19%
Northeast_Asian: 1.17%
Mediterranean: 15.09%
North_European : 70.78%
Southeast_Asian:
Oceanian: 0.49%
South_African: 1.06%
Sub-Saharan_African:

Eurogenes K9:

Population
South Asian:
Caucasus: 9.02%
Southwest Asian:
North Amerindian + Arctic: 0.35%
Siberian: 0.46%
Mediterranean: 22.22%
East Asian:
West African:
North European: 67.95%

Eurogenes K10:

Population
South Asian:
Caucasus: 9.15%
Southwest Asian:
North Amerindian + Arctic: 0.28%
Siberian: 0.33%
Mediterranean: 11.22%
East Asian:
West African:
East European: 24.72%
North Atlantic: 54.31%

Eurogenes K11:

Population
South Asian:
Caucasus: 8.38%
Southwest Asian:
North Amerindian + Arctic:
Siberian:
Mediterranean: 10.53%
East Asian :
West African:
Volga-Ural: 10.35%
South Baltic: 18.56%
North Atlantic: 52.14%

Eurogenes K12:

Population
South Asian:
Caucasus: 8.08%
Southwest Asian:
North Amerindian + Arctic:
Siberian:
Mediterranean: 8.98%
East Asian:
West African:
Volga-Ural: 8.10%
South Baltic: 15.44%
Western European: 28.20%
North Sea: 31.20%

Eurogenes K12b:

Population
Western European: 41.80%
Siberian: 0.14%
East African: 0.15%
West Central Asian: 3.37%
South Asian:
West African:
Caucasus: 7.27%
Finnish: 8.64%
Mediterranean: 12.01%
Southwest Asian:
North European: 26.61%
East Asian:

Eurogenes K36:

Population
Amerindian:
Arabian:
Armenian:
Basque: 1.11%
Central_African:
Central_Euro: 5.15%
East_African:
East_Asian :
East_Balkan: 4.36%
East_Central_Asian:
East_Central_Euro: 10.63%
East_Med:
Eastern_Euro: 2.73%
Fennoscandian: 10.45%
French: 7.01%
Iberian: 11.98%
Indo-Chinese:
Italian: 2.67%
Malayan:
Near_Eastern:
North_African:
North_Atlantic: 16.61%
North_Caucasian: 6.18%
North_Sea : 21.04%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian:
Omotic:
Pygmy:
Siberian:
South_Asian:
South_Central_Asian:
South_Chinese:
Volga-Ural:
West_African:
West_Caucasian:
West_Med: 0.06%

JTest:

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC: 14.21%
EAST_EURO: 11.31%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO: 25.23%
ATLANTIC: 28.42%
WEST_MED: 8.84%
ASHKENAZI: 5.33%
EAST_MED: 0.07%
WEST_ASIAN: 6.59%
MIDDLE_EASTERN:
SOUTH_ASIAN:
EAST_AFRICAN:
EAST_ASIAN:
SIBERIAN:
WEST_AFRICAN:

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 4.02
2 IE 4.68
3 Scottish 4.77
4 Cornish 5.44
5 NL 6.22
6 English 6.33
7 West_&_Central_German 6.73
8 DK 7.51
9 NO 8.23
10 South_&_Central_Swedish 8.84
11 North_Swedish 11.95
12 AT 12.16
13 FR 12.91
14 HU 16.78
15 South_Finnish 19.62
16 Serbian 19.7
17 PT 20.01
18 ES 20.08
19 PL 21.43
20 RO 22.26

EUTest:

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC: 14.27%
EAST_EURO: 11.74%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO: 25.59%
ATLANTIC: 29.23%
WEST_MED: 9.77%
EAST_MED: 1.76%
WEST_ASIAN: 7.65%
MIDDLE_EASTERN:
SOUTH_ASIAN:
EAST_AFRICAN:
EAST_ASIAN:
SIBERIAN:
WEST_AFRICAN:

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3.27
2 IE 3.35
3 Scottish 4.2
4 Cornish 5.08
5 NL 5.84
6 English 6.16
7 West_&_Central_German 6.28
8 DK 7.45
9 NO 7.97
10 South_&_Central_Swedish 8.6
11 North_Swedish 11.71
12 AT 12.14
13 FR 12.85
14 HU 16.79
15 Serbian 19.64
16 South_Finnish 19.91
17 PT 20.27
18 ES 20.31
19 PL 21.55
20 RO 22.3

[Antimage]

Sicilian or Kurdish :o

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

MDLP K23b:

Population
Amerindian: 0.17%
Ancestral_Altaic: 4.11%
South_Central_Asian: 7.18%
Arctic: 0.76%
South_Indian:
Australoid: 0.20%
Austronesian:
Caucasian: 23.06%
Archaic_Human:
East_African:
East_Siberian:
European_Early_Farmers: 25.49%
Khoisan:
Melano_Polynesian:
Archaic_African:
Near_East: 0.58%
North_African:
Paleo_Siberian: 0.21%
African_Pygmy:
South_East_Asian:
Subsaharian:
Tungus-Altaic:
European_Hunters_Gatherers: 38.24%

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Sicilian or Kurdish :o

What makes you think that?

[abcd123]

I'd say some kind of scando.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

MDLP World-22:

Population
Pygmy: 0.11%
West-Asian: 9.47%
North-European-Mesolithic: 4.68%
Indo-Tibetan:
Mesoamerican:
Arctic-Amerind:
South-America_Amerind: 0.31%
Indian:
North-Siberean:
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic: 32.18%
Samoedic:
Indo-Iranian: 2.90%
East-Siberean:
North-East-European: 48.19%
South-African: 0.18%
North-Amerind:
Sub-Saharian:
East-South-Asian:
Near_East: 1.97%
Melanesian:
Paleo-Siberian:
Austronesian:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_V (derived) 3.01
2 Austrian (derived) 4.15
3 CEU_V (derived) 4.66
4 Hungarian (derived) 5.12
5 Welsh (derived) 6.64
6 Slovenian (derived) 6.85
7 Croatian (derived) 6.86
8 German (derived) 6.87
9 CEU (derived) 7.02
10 German-North (derived) 7.1
11 Bosnian (derived) 7.14
12 Serbian (derived) 7.63
13 British (derived) 7.84
14 Norwegian_V (derived) 7.98
15 German-South (derived) 8.17
16 Swedish (derived) 8.23
17 Orcadian (derived) 9.1
18 Montenegrin (derived) 10.24
19 Czech (derived) 10.3
20 Swedish_V (derived) 10.66

[Insuperable]

You could be anything out of populations provided.

[Antimage]

What makes you think that?

I'm kidding...

I would say you are some kind of northern european...

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

MDLP World:

Population
Caucaus_Parsia: 12.48%
Middle_East: 2.75%
Indian: 0.24%
South_and_West_European: 44.80%
Melanesian:
Sub_Saharian:
North_and_East_European: 39.34%
Arctic_Amerind:
East_Asian :
Paleo_African: 0.34%
Mesoamerican: 0.06%
North_Asian:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_V 3.44
2 Hungarian 3.86
3 Austrian 3.92
4 Croatian 4.27
5 Slovenian 4.76
6 Bosnian 5.12
7 CEU_V 5.44
8 CEU 6.03
9 British 6.59
10 Welsh 6.77
11 German-North 6.89
12 Czech 6.9
13 German 6.91
14 Norwegian_V 7.2
15 Orcadian 7.22
16 German-South 7.43
17 Serbian 8.04
18 Slovakian 8.14
19 Croatian_V 8.36
20 Swedish 9.23

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

You could be anything out of populations provided.

What do you mean?

[i'llseeyouinhell]

Sicilian or Kurdish :o

He is just a retarded don't listen him

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

He is just a retarded don't listen him

Who?

[Antimage]

Who?

me, because I said the german guy wasn't turanid :D

[Oneeye]

North Sea Facade. :D

[Insuperable]

What do you mean?

I mean this:
1 North_German 3.6
2 Danish 6.04
3 North_Dutch 6.1
4 Irish 6.11
5 Southeast_English 6.71
6 West_Scottish 6.81
7 Southwest_English 7.47
8 South_Dutch 7.95
9 Orcadian 8.52
10 Norwegian 9.26
11 Swedish 9.37
12 West_German 10.1
13 West_Norwegian 10.55
14 East_German 10.77
15 North_Swedish 11.31

Northern, North-Central Europeans... cluster tightly and I am not familiar with small gedmatch differences of each population, but you could be Scando, North German, North Dutch or something like that if I neglect your weird West Asian score.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

23andme Ancestry Composition:

http://i.imgur.com/b2c8AW3.png

[i'llseeyouinhell]

me, because I said the german guy wasn't turanid :D

actually no he wasn't fully german and you are still retarded i understand that after our argue

[Antimage]

actually no he wasn't fully german and you are still retarded i understand that after our argue

whether he is 100% german or 50% german is completely irrelevant :p

[Hevo]

I'd say some kind of scando.

He is bit to southern to pass as a proper Scand0. More like Northern German/Dutch.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

actually no he wasn't fully german and you are still retarded i understand that after our argue

Well, since you are here, why not contribute? :) what would you say I am genetically, judging only by my genetics I have posted?

[abcd123]

He is bit to southern to pass as a proper Scand0. More like Northern German/Dutch.

Yeah,sure,I am no expert.The hunter-gatherer percentage made me think of that.

[Hadouken]

Dutch

[i'llseeyouinhell]

whether he is 100% german or 50% german is completely irrelevant :p

:D:D

[i'llseeyouinhell]

Well, since you are here, why not contribute? :) what would you say I am genetically, judging only by my genetics I have posted?

I have no idea really it's kind of tough thing all i can say is you are european :D :D

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

So basically I average as a Dutchman (with an atypically high amount of West Asian)?

[Nurzat]

I thought you'd score closest to Finns, but you don't. I say Swedish :)

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

I mean this:
1 North_German 3.6
2 Danish 6.04
3 North_Dutch 6.1
4 Irish 6.11
5 Southeast_English 6.71
6 West_Scottish 6.81
7 Southwest_English 7.47
8 South_Dutch 7.95
9 Orcadian 8.52
10 Norwegian 9.26
11 Swedish 9.37
12 West_German 10.1
13 West_Norwegian 10.55
14 East_German 10.77
15 North_Swedish 11.31

Northern, North-Central Europeans... cluster tightly and I am not familiar with small gedmatch differences of each population, but you could be Scando, North German, North Dutch or something if I neglect your weird West Asian score.

Cool.

So where do you think the West Asian comes from? :)

[Sikeliot]

All Europeans have the Neolithic West Asian genes. You just have less of them than a southerner :)

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

All Europeans have the Neolithic West Asian genes. You just have less of them than a southerner :)

He is referring to the high 'West Asian' I get. It's comparatively high compared to other North Europeans.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

All Europeans have the Neolithic West Asian genes. You just have less of them than a southerner :)

So, what do you think I average out as, over all? Most people are saying North Dutch or North German, but with the added high West Asian, where does it put me?

[Gooding]

Some fashion of Northern European.

[Neon Knight]

GEDmatch gives a North German / Danish bias to British Isles people so those results back up your 23andMe - British/Irish with 1/4 to 1/2 Scandinavian. There is not really such a thing as 'averaging out' but you could call yourself GermanoCeltic or NordoCeltic or simply Northwestern European (NWE).

[Graham]

North German, Danish, Dutch, Southern English.

[Petalpusher]

Uk + Norway+ German. And you look Norway.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

GEDmatch gives a North German / Danish bias to British Isles people so those results back up your 23andMe - British/Irish with 1/4 to 1/2 Scandinavian. There is not really such a thing as 'averaging out' but you could call yourself GermanoCeltic or NordoCeltic or simply Northwestern European (NWE).

Well British/Irish and Scandinavian is basically what I am in real life so :)

Well, in real life, I am a mix of Irish, Scandinavian, German, British and Dutch basically. So it makes sense...

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

The only thing I don't get is the atypically high amount of West Asian. I wonder what it says about my genetics?

[LightHouse89]

Well if race is a social construct then so are ethnic groups.

I would say probably just Northern Europe/North Western Europe.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

GEDmatch gives a North German / Danish bias to British Isles people so those results back up your 23andMe - British/Irish with 1/4 to 1/2 Scandinavian. There is not really such a thing as 'averaging out' but you could call yourself GermanoCeltic or NordoCeltic or simply Northwestern European (NWE).

I do have two questions though

1. Is my ANE typical for ethnic groups in my family, or do I have an atypically high amount?
2. I know I have an atypically high amount of West Asian, but an atypically low amount of East Med. so I am wondering if it means anything?

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Petalpusher has told me before he thinks I have a recent ancestor from the Caucasus, and this is the reason I have high West Asian and low East Med...I am not sure how plausible this theory is.

[Neon Knight]

I do have two questions though

1. Is my ANE typical for ethnic groups in my family, or do I have an atypically high amount?
2. I know I have an atypically high amount of West Asian, but an atypically low amount of East Med. so I am wondering if it means anything?

I'll show you mine:

Eurogenes K7
WHG-UHG 64.18%
ENF 17.20%
ANE 16.06%
ASE 1.47%
East Eurasian 0.47%
West African 0.45%
East African 0.17%

K13
North Atlantic -------- 46.85%
Baltic ------------------- 25.14%
West Med ------------- 16.78%
West Asian ------------ 7.05%
South Asian ----------- 1.28%
East Med --------------- 1.17%
Amerindian ------------ 1.05%
Oceanian --------------- 0.55%
Northeast African ----- 0.14%

Your results are probably within the normal range and always remember that these genetic tests are only approximate anyway so don't take them too seriously. Your results and known ancestry match up pretty well and that's that. The best you can do is more ancestry research and testing of other family members.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

I'll show you mine:

Eurogenes K7
WHG-UHG 64.18%
ENF 17.20%
ANE 16.06%
ASE 1.47%
East Eurasian 0.47%
West African 0.45%
East African 0.17%

K13
North Atlantic -------- 46.85%
Baltic ------------------- 25.14%
West Med ------------- 16.78%
West Asian ------------ 7.05%
South Asian ----------- 1.28%
East Med --------------- 1.17%
Amerindian ------------ 1.05%
Oceanian --------------- 0.55%
Northeast African ----- 0.14%

Your results are probably within the normal range and always remember that these genetic tests are only approximate anyway so don't take them too seriously. Your results and known ancestry match up pretty well and that's that. The best you can do is more ancestry research and testing of other family members.

I agree.

On 23andme I get 0.1 East Asian & Native American but I do not get anything that would point to that on GEDmatch, so are we assuming that's just noise? I was told racial estimates on 23andme is almost never noise, no matter how miniscule the amount.

Then I get 1.1% Balkan, I don't know if that ties in with anything.

[LightHouse89]

Answer me this: if race is a " social construct" ( pretending for a minute that we don't know damned well that it's a biological reality), why can we send in saliva samples and get approximate averages on our ancestry that are either spot on or close to it?

I like it when anthropologists and biologists claim races are social constructs but ethnic groups exist. Thats foolish to say because you could easily argue that they too are social constructs. Im shocked they are not already. They will when certain groups that they [PC, jews, communists, leftists etc...] dislike they will come out and say it. Using the same arguments you could claim ethnic groups are social constructs.

Races are not social constructs. Infact its amazing how traditional anthropology was able to define and group different populations together to form subracial varients and bigger racial categories. These actually correlate with modern genetics and different 'breeding populations' as the social constructed people call them [they call races breeding populations, populations etc...]. They do this because if the word race is removed from science then we will live in a less racist world [so they think].

Im not kidding. I have read several things about this. You can actually get fired in science and ostracized for even suggesting races exist. Most of this 'science' is from Jewish intellectuals in America. Much of these loony ideas come from America too. You are not free to think or even come up with evidence.

Most of these pople that argue races dont exist use a strawman argument where they will argue with you and have themselves defines different races or the definition of it as a completely different species [which is not how the word was traditionally applied at all]. It wasnt until the 19th century with nordicism did you see the usage of the word liberally applied to include ethnic groups. Race is not an ethnic group.

[Graham]

K15. You are like how most Americans score. Germanic mix.

http://s27.postimg.org/4zkuf5szn/mccool.jpg

[Hevo]

Answer me this: if race is a " social construct" ( pretending for a minute that we don't know damned well that it's a biological reality), why can we send in saliva samples and get approximate averages on our ancestry that are either spot on or close to it?

Your AC @your sign shows it well. If race is a social construct then why could they easily spot the Native American admixture in you?

[Gooding]

Your AC @your sign shows it well. If race is a social construct then why could they easily spot the Native American admixture in you?

EDIT: Catherine Lejeune, the ancestor who I thought might have had the Miq'maq ancestor, has been shown to have as her mt DNA U6, which originates in North Africa. As of right now, the source of my Native American readings is a mystery. Well, apparently they were able to condense it to the point that they could make the determinations on a chromosomal level. 61182

[Oneeye]

You seem more easterly (higher Baltic affinity) than myself. Are you of a similar mix as me?

[Rædwald]

North Sea Facade, with a dash of the Baltics

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

You seem more easterly (higher Baltic affinity) than myself. Are you of a similar mix as me?

What is your ethnic background?

I am a mix of Irish, German, Swedish, British, Dutch, French...

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

K15. You are like how most Americans score. Germanic mix.

http://s27.postimg.org/4zkuf5szn/mccool.jpg

Interesting, thank you...

looks like I'm always closest to North Germans! But Neon Knight says that's what it always gives to British Isles people, so maybe it means I average as a Brit, really.

I think I'd be closer to Swedes, Norwegians...and Irish, because I am a quarter Irish.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

GEDmatch gives a North German / Danish bias to British Isles people so those results back up your 23andMe - British/Irish with 1/4 to 1/2 Scandinavian. There is not really such a thing as 'averaging out' but you could call yourself GermanoCeltic or NordoCeltic or simply Northwestern European (NWE).

I have a good amount of German blood, too, but I must not have inherited much of that?

[Neon Knight]

Interesting, thank you...

looks like I'm always closest to North Germans! But Neon Knight says that's what it always gives to British Isles people, so maybe it means I average as a Brit, really.

I think I'd be closer to Swedes, Norwegians...and Irish, because I am a quarter Irish.

Where did 23andMe put you on the Global Similarity Map?

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Where did 23andMe put you on the Global Similarity Map?

I don't know what that is or how to access it?

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Where did 23andMe put you on the Global Similarity Map?

oh, nvm, here:

http://i.imgur.com/Bn29Zav.png

[Neon Knight]

oh, nvm, here:

http://i.imgur.com/Bn29Zav.png

You need to zoom in on Europe.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

You need to zoom in on Europe.

http://i.imgur.com/aBYR7Cy.png

http://i.imgur.com/qUfxvS7.png

http://i.imgur.com/z30IoSX.png

http://i.imgur.com/vN4Pvb9.png

http://i.imgur.com/o6DEtgX.png

http://i.imgur.com/XlmbypO.png

What do you make of it?

[Neon Knight]

It has you as a Norwegian more than anything but not outside the English zone either. It put me as very Irish so this is another thing I don't take very seriously :D

[Oneeye]

What is your ethnic background?

I am a mix of Irish, German, Swedish, British, Dutch, French...


http://i.imgur.com/aBYR7Cy.png

http://i.imgur.com/qUfxvS7.png

http://i.imgur.com/z30IoSX.png

http://i.imgur.com/vN4Pvb9.png

http://i.imgur.com/o6DEtgX.png

http://i.imgur.com/XlmbypO.png

What do you make of it?

I'm of English, German, Norwegian, and Dutch ancestry, and on K15 you score higher Baltic and Atlantic with lower North Sea than myself. I think that makes sense with the Swedish and Irish you have.


On that plot, you're close to where I'm at if just aa slightly lower.