Classify these olive and sallow-skinned German MPs, and where can they pass?

[Tooting Carmen]

Axel E. Fischer, Baden-Württemberg
http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-65930-panoV9free-hpuj.jpg

Josef Rief, Baden-Württemberg
https://www.bundestag.de/image/234368/Querformat__16x9/475/267/83f918e0c55a5ad9e7f511fdb0c6df29/jw/rief_gross.jpg

Christian Kühn, Baden-Württemberg
http://www.gruene-bundestag.de/uploads/tx_wwgruenefraktion/Chris-Ku_ehn-MdB-gross.jpg

Erich Irlstorfer, Bayern
http://www.csu-ortsverband-freising.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Irlstorfer-Erich.jpg

Florian Oßner, Bayern
http://www.tvaktuell.com/storage/thumbs/700x/r:1409926691/104101.jpg

Frank Steffel, Berlin
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Frank_Steffel.jpg

Martin Pätzold, Berlin
http://europawerkstatt.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Martin-Paetzold-e1385193038828-224x300.jpg

Matthias Schmidt, Berlin
http://spdnet.sozi.info/berlin/trepkoep/images/user_pages/matthias_schmidt_2011.jpg

Dr. Matthias Zimmer, Hessen
http://www.cduffm.de/image/news/3865.jpg

Gerold Reichenbach, Hessen
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/WLP14-ri-0437-_Gerold_Reichenbach_(SPD),_MdB.jpg/220px-WLP14-ri-0437-_Gerold_Reichenbach_(SPD),_MdB.jpg

Matthias Lietz, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
http://p5.focus.de/img/fotos/origs3404381/1712436311-w721-h541-o-q75-p5/Geschichte-Der-Bundestagsabgeordnete-Matthias-Lietz-CDU-.jpg

Peter Stein, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
https://www.cducsu.de/sites/default/files/peter-stein-foto-stefan-peuss.jpg

Heidrun Bluhm, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
http://medien.linksfraktion.net/bilder/18te-legislatur-heidrun-bluhm-160x200.jpg

Frank Junge, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
http://www.ostsee-zeitung.de/var/storage/images/oz/mecklenburg/wismar/politik/frank-junge-gibt-den-vorsitz-ab/55235322-3-ger-DE/Frank-Junge-gibt-den-Vorsitz-ab_ArtikelHoch.jpg

Dr. Harald Terpe, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
http://www.harald-terpe.de/fileadmin/user_upload/terpe/fotos/terpe_fraktion_hochaufgeloest.jpg

Axel Knoerig, Niedersachsen
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Axel_Knoerig_2009.jpg

Wilhelm Priesmeier, Niedersachsen
https://einbeckerpolitik.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/priesmeier.jpg

Peter Meiwald, Niedersachsen
http://countdownbtw.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Peter-Meiwald20121.jpg

Marco Bülow, Nordrhein-Westfalen
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/c/c5/Marco_B%C3%BClow.jpg

[Deneb]

They are quite varied, so they could pass in a lot of countries.

[Visage pâle]

Most of them aren't olive skinned imo.

[Tooting Carmen]

Wilfried Oellers, Nordrhein-Westfalen
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/2014-09-10_-_Wilfried_Oellers_MdB_-_7270.jpg

Andrej Hunko, Nordrhein-Westfalen
http://www.aachener-nachrichten.de/polopoly_fs/1.567381.1367341503!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/zva_quer_540/image.jpg

Volker Mosblech, Nordrhein-Westfalen
http://bc03.rp-online.de/polopoly_fs/volker-mosblech-2016-bundestag-einziehen-1.5233981.1436861401!httpImage/3214824383.jpg_gen/derivatives/d950x950/3214824383.jpg

Dr. Alexander S. Neu, Nordrhein-Westfalen
http://www.enquery.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/dr-alexander-s-neu-mdb-foto-online_quer_500x700_px.jpg

Ulle Schauws, Nordrhein-Westfalen
https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_400_400/p/3/005/07d/1c4/06a8d26.jpg

Dr. Sahra Wagenknecht, Nordrhein-Westfalen
http://www.planet-interview.de/wp-content/uploads/Sahra_Wagenknecht_1600-300x300.jpg

Dr. Andreas Nick, Rheinland-Pfalz
https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_400_400/p/6/005/019/3e6/31c961d.jpg

Angelika Glöckner, Rheinland-Pfalz
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/578876416504279040/As_Z1m5m.jpeg

Thomas Hitschler, Rheinland-Pfalz
http://mobil.rhein-zeitung.de/cms_media/module_img/2095/1047853_1_mobildetail_Thomas_Hitschler_Portraet_b. jpg

Alexander Ulrich, Rheinland-Pfalz
http://www.b1group.de/wp-content/uploads/ulrich_alexander.jpg

Thomas Lutze, Saarland
http://www.sol.de/storage/scl/home/titelseite/aufmacherfotos/2403576_m1w930q90v54780_lutze.jpg?version=14052711 06

Andreas G. Lämmel, Sachsen
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Andreas_L%C3%A4mmel_2010.jpg

Wolfgang Gunkel, Sachsen
http://spdnet.sozi.info/sachsen/erzgeb/images/user_pages/Gunkel_Wolfgang.jpg

Thomas Jurk, Sachsen
http://www.thomas-jurk.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Thomas-Profilbild.jpg

Daniela Kolbe, Sachsen
http://www.okkiel.de/hl/informieren/aktuelles/artikel/fotos/Kolbe10.0113-018.jpg

Jörn Wunderlich, Sachsen
http://www.antidiskriminierungsstelle.de/SharedDocs/Bilder/DE/Gratulanten_5JahreAGG/Joern_Wunderlich.jpg?__blob=poster&v=1

Uda Heller, Sachsen-Anhalt
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Uda-ecruverlauf_gro%C3%9F.jpg/220px-Uda-ecruverlauf_gro%C3%9F.jpg

Steffen-Claudio Lemme, Thüringen
http://www.dtoday.de/cms_media/module_img/547/273653_1_lightbox_Lemme_weiss_600.jpg

Frank Tempel, Thüringen
http://medien.linksfraktion.net/pressedownloads/tempel_frank.jpg


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[Sikeliot]

Greece or other Balkan nations, due to their high Alpine influence.

[Tooting Carmen]

They are quite varied, so they could pass in a lot of countries.

Which ones would fit best in Iberia then, and why?

[Tooting Carmen]

Greece or other Balkan nations, due to their high Alpine influence.

Interesting how you put those above Italy.

[Tooting Carmen]

Most of them aren't olive skinned imo.

True, not all of them are wholesale Med like David Villa or Antonio di Natale, but they still have a sallow complexion that is darker than the stereotypical German look.

[Nurzat]

Dr. Alexander S. Neu, Nordrhein-Westfalen
http://www.enquery.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/dr-alexander-s-neu-mdb-foto-online_quer_500x700_px.jpg

http://x.vukajlija.com/var/products/posters/201111/335986/fazlija.jpg

Yugos will get the joke :)

(Fazlija is a Bosnian turbofolk singer)

[JBoscherville]

'Olive-skinned' :confused:

On point though a lot if different countries.

[Tooting Carmen]

'Olive-skinned' :confused:

On point though a lot if different countries.

Olive-and-sallow then. Which countries particularly spring to mind?

[Visage pâle]

True, not all of them are wholesale Med like David Villa or Antonio di Natale

David Villa and Di natale have "normal" european skin tone ( "not olive" ) with dark hair and eyes.


but they still have a sallow complexion that is darker than the stereotypical German look.

For me they have normal european skin tone, true white skin is minority everywhere except maybe in Ireland and Britain where large part of the people have the red gene.

[Sikeliot]

Interesting how you put those above Italy.

They are more Alpine than the average Italian. They do not look like southerners, and because of how you chose the group they have less Norid influence than most northern Italians. Most could probably pass in some capacity though.

Either way they definitely look more Greek than Iberian.

[Alessio]

I've seen darker types in Baden-Württemberg this year.

[Tooting Carmen]

I've seen darker types in Baden-Württemberg this year.

Then how commonplace would you say the ones posted here are there?

[JBoscherville]

Olive-and-sallow then. Which countries particularly spring to mind?

Honestly one of these guys looks Indian.

[Tooting Carmen]

Honestly one of these guys looks Indian.

LOL which one?

[JBoscherville]

LOL which one?

Sebastian Edathy.

[Teja]

I think the impression of olive skin simply comes from the editing with photoshop. So they wont look pale.

[pelikarski]

Most are Alpino-Dinarids, observed type in Austria and Southern Germany

[Tooting Carmen]

Sebastian Edathy.

How come?

[Tooting Carmen]

Most are Alpino-Dinarids, observed type in Austria and Southern Germany

Could they fit well in Bulgaria?

[JBoscherville]

How come?

He just reminds me of Indian people i've seen :noidea:

[Alessio]

Then how commonplace would you say the ones posted here are there?

For Germany you mean ?

[pelikarski]

Could they fit well in Bulgaria?

40-50%

[Tooting Carmen]

For Germany you mean ?

Yes.

[Tooting Carmen]

40-50%

Which ones could especially well?

[Alessio]

Yes.

not uncommon for the south of Germany I'd say. I saw many of these types there and some even more southern looking, but not significantly more.

[pelikarski]

Which ones could especially well?
http://spdnet.sozi.info/berlin/trepkoep/images/user_pages/matthias_schmidt_2011.jpg
http://medien.linksfraktion.net/bilder/18te-legislatur-heidrun-bluhm-160x200.jpg
http://www.harald-terpe.de/fileadmin/user_upload/terpe/fotos/terpe_fraktion_hochaufgeloest.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Axel_Knoerig_2009.jpg

[pelikarski]

this woman looks like Dinarid used in this sampe
http://www.planet-interview.de/wp-content/uploads/Sahra_Wagenknecht_1600-300x300.jpg
http://s55.photobucket.com/user/metalcoremodz/media/800px-Europaeid_types.jpg.html

[Antimage]

I think some would get the "berid" classification if they were from Iberian or Italian

[Tooting Carmen]

http://spdnet.sozi.info/berlin/trepkoep/images/user_pages/matthias_schmidt_2011.jpg
http://medien.linksfraktion.net/bilder/18te-legislatur-heidrun-bluhm-160x200.jpg
http://www.harald-terpe.de/fileadmin/user_upload/terpe/fotos/terpe_fraktion_hochaufgeloest.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Axel_Knoerig_2009.jpg

Yeah, I certainly think that more Germans could pass in Bulgaria and other Balkan countries than Brits could - not because of pigmentation but because of facial traits and physique. Most dark Brits look different to these.

[Tooting Carmen]

I think some would get the "berid" classification if they were from Iberian or Italian

Like whom?

[Antimage]

Like whom?

will tell tomnorrow.

atm some keys aren't working properly on my laptop

[Hadouken]

thats not olive skin .(if you want an example of olive skin then you can take me) . only some germans can be light olive maximum

[Tooting Carmen]

thats not olive skin .(if you want an example of olive skin then you can take me) . only some germans can be light olive maximum

Therefore, I changed the title to "olive and sallow". They are still darker-skinned than the stereotypical German look.

[Tooting Carmen]

der judischer liste:

-Christian Kühn, Baden-Württemberg
-Peter Meiwald, Niedersachsen


Do you have proof they are Jewish?


Frank Steffel, Berlin <-------- would look typical in Austria

More so than the others? Why specifically him?

[Balmung]

A lot could also fit in the USA but seeing as we're basically a blend between Germans and Brits over here that's not surprising.

[Hadouken]

Therefore, I changed the title to "olive and sallow". They are still darker-skinned than the stereotypical German look.

Florian Oßner is a little darker/woggier than average german

Gerold Reichenbach - yes he is definitely darker and he could also pass as Turkish even but it has also to do with his age , mustache etc. I think

Peter Stein looks a bit odd

Sebastian Edathy - I dont think he is fully german . his appereance and also surname suggests it

the rest are not atypical for germans

[Visage pâle]

They are alpinids and dinarids, they can pass in Central Europe.

[Teja]

Florian Oßner is a little darker/woggier than average german

Gerold Reichenbach - yes he is definitely darker and he could also pass as Turkish even but it has also to do with his age , mustache etc. I think

Peter Stein looks a bit odd

Sebastian Edathy - I dont think he is fully german . his appereance and also surname suggests it

the rest are not atypical for germans
Edathys father is indian. I agree that most of them aren't atypical, just swarthy.

[Tooting Carmen]

Edathys father is indian.

I'll take him out then.

[Cristiano viejo]

Tootin Carmen must work in Brussels. He knows absolutely all politicians of Europe :lol:

[Tooting Carmen]

Tootin Carmen must work in Brussels. He knows absolutely all politicians of Europe :lol:

Nah, I couldn't stand the lifestyle in Brussels. I just look up the websites of different Parliaments and councils.

[Oddone]

They are alpinids and dinarids, they can pass in Central Europe.

Most of them already live in Central Europe.

[Tooting Carmen]

Most of them already live in Central Europe.

I think Visage Pale means they can pass a little further South than Germany, like Austria and Switzerland (of course), plus Northern Italy, Slovenia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Slovakia etc.

[Oddone]

I think Visage Pale means they can pass a little further South than Germany, like Austria and Switzerland (of course), plus Northern Italy, Slovenia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Slovakia etc.

I think so.

[Teja]

The names remind me of how much jewish (sounding) and (typical) german surenames cluster.

[Odin]

Mainly Alpines and Dinarids. Pass in Central Europe.