Half Sicilian, half Campanian GEDmatch result. Comes up North Italian-Levantine intermediate.

[Sikeliot]

This is for all of the people who are spouting nonsense around here... it is time to go by what the data says and not wishful thinking.

He comes up half North Italian, half Lebanese, or as if he could be 2/3 Central Italian and 1/3 Lebanese. He of course scores Sicilian and South Italian first so this is a typical result. He is slightly closer to Ashkenazis than to Greeks, but not by much.

Dodecad K12b:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.04
2 Atlantic_Med 25.61
3 North_European 14.72
4 Southwest_Asian 12.55
5 Gedrosia 8.78
6 Northwest_African 4.69
7 East_African 0.62


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.77
2 Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.01
3 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 7.92
4 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 8.04
5 Greek (Dodecad) 9.51
6 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 10.24
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.55
8 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 11.96
9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.28
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 14.41
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.29
12 Cypriots (Behar) 18.87
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.95
14 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 20.59
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.6
16 Lebanese (Behar) 20.93
17 Turks (Behar) 21.11
18 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 21.27
19 Romanians (Behar) 22.08
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.75
2 50.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 49.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.17
3 80.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 19.8% German (Dodecad) @ 3.39
4 85.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.43
5 78.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 21.2% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.43
6 83.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.46
7 59.1% Druze (HGDP) + 40.9% French (HGDP) @ 3.47
8 52.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 47.6% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 3.55
9 70.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.6
10 83.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.72
11 71.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.5% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.74
12 52.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 47.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 3.77
13 67.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 32.4% Jordanians (Behar) @ 3.78
14 58.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 41.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.91
15 80.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 19.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.92
16 84.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 15.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.94
17 85.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 14.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.98
18 87.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 12.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.98
19 84.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 15.9% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.99
20 67.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 32.2% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.99









Eurogenes K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.74
2 West_Med 16.36
3 Atlantic 16
4 West_Asian 15.88
5 North_Sea 7.3
6 Red_Sea 6.55
7 Baltic 5.46
8 Eastern_Euro 1.68
9 Northeast_African 1.56
10 Southeast_Asian 0.46
11 Sub-Saharan 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 3.54
2 East_Sicilian 4.01
3 Central_Greek 4.88
4 Italian_Abruzzo 5.62
5 West_Sicilian 6.15
6 Sephardic_Jewish 6.77
7 Ashkenazi 7.1
8 Italian_Jewish 7.21
9 Algerian_Jewish 8.7
10 Greek 9.74
11 Tunisian_Jewish 11.05
12 Tuscan 11.6
13 Greek_Thessaly 11.65
14 Cyprian 13.78
15 Libyan_Jewish 14.29
16 Lebanese_Muslim 16.7
17 Turkish 17.41
18 Bulgarian 17.43
19 Syrian 17.74
20 North_Italian 18.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 31.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.51
2 55.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 44.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.65
3 80.9% West_Sicilian + 19.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.66
4 80.2% West_Sicilian + 19.8% Assyrian @ 2.87
5 73.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 26.3% Cyprian @ 2.9
6 81.5% West_Sicilian + 18.5% Armenian @ 2.9
7 65.9% Cyprian + 34.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.94
8 59.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 40.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.97
9 64.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.4% Southwest_French @ 3.01
10 61.3% Central_Greek + 38.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.02
11 81% Italian_Abruzzo + 19% Samaritan @ 3.03
12 59.5% Tuscan + 40.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.07
13 73.1% South_Italian + 26.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.09
14 66.5% Cyprian + 33.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.12
15 70.8% East_Sicilian + 29.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.16
16 69.1% Cyprian + 30.9% Southwest_French @ 3.17
17 97.6% South_Italian + 2.4% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.19
18 97.5% South_Italian + 2.5% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.2
19 98% South_Italian + 2% Somali @ 3.21
20 78.1% South_Italian + 21.9% West_Sicilian @ 3.22





MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.51
2 European_Early_Farmers 23.33
3 Near_East 13.87
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.37
5 South_Central_Asian 7.77
6 North_African 6.15
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.06


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West @ 3.710173
2 Sicilian_Agrigento @ 5.147272
3 Sicilian_Trapani @ 6.075225
4 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 6.178285
5 Sicilian_Siracusa @ 6.547731
6 Sicilian_East @ 6.689814
7 Maltese @ 6.755590
8 French_Jew @ 7.398842
9 Sephardic_Jew @ 8.292505
10 Turk_Jew @ 8.597480
11 Cretan @ 8.676450
12 Ashkenazi @ 9.165766
13 Italian_Jew @ 9.228179
14 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.465857
15 Romanian_Jew @ 9.781535
16 Moroccan_Jew @ 10.635403
17 Sicilian_Center @ 10.694169
18 Greek_Smyrna @ 11.171650
19 Italian_South @ 11.405884
20 Greek_Phokaia @ 11.779170

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Bergamo +50% Lebanese @ 2.287992


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan +25% Muslim_Arabs_Israel +25% Spanish_Galicia_IBS @ 1.740688

[Cristiano viejo]

MENA

[spanish catalan]

Giovinco

[Petalpusher]

MENA

10 83.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.72



MENA + 1/6 Norway ;)

[Ylla]

84.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 15.9% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.99

Slavovlach

[wvwvw]

84.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 15.9% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.99

Slavovlach

Lol yes Spephardic Jews are Jewish Vlachs as the name implies :party-smiley-007:

[Sikeliot]

According to MDLP K23, their closest Greek match is of course Cretan, and then Anatolian Greek. This is for Joseph Capelli who falsely claims Sicilians are genetically closer to Peloponnesians.

[Gaston]

But they are not though. Sicily has some recent Berber and North European admixture which cannot be explained by a simple addition of North Italians + Levantines.

[Alessio]

This is my 4th cousin no ?

If so the guy looks completely normal for an Italian from north to south.

It's not going to be long before the new MDLP k13 is released on Gedmatch by the way.

[Petalpusher]

This is my 4th cousin no ?

If so the guy looks completely normal for an Italian from north to south.

It's not going to be long before the new MDLP k13 is released on Gedmatch by the way.

It looks good from the few runs i ve seen, lots of regional samples (very important imo) and seems pretty accurate.

[Sikeliot]

But they are not though. Sicily has some recent Berber and North European admixture which cannot be explained by a simple addition of North Italians + Levantines.

But the North Italian + Levantine formula within it captures both of those elements.

[Alessio]

It looks good from the few runs i ve seen, lots of regional samples (very important imo) and seems pretty accurate.

Have you seen samples coming from other Italian regions as well ?

Not only Tuscans, Bergamo, Calabresi, Ubruzzesi and Sicilians.

[Petalpusher]

Have you seen samples coming from other Italian regions as well ?

Not only Tuscans, Bergamo, Calabresi, Ubruzzesi and Sicilians.

There's Friuli and Piedmont too

[Sikeliot]

Here is an interesting part of their MDLP K23 result.

"Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan +25% Muslim_Arabs_Israel +25% Spanish_Galicia_IBS @ 1.740688"


Levantine + Spanish/North Italian gives you southern Italian. So since they are listed as half Cretan and then 1/4 each Levantine and Spanish, it reaffirms the similarity between southern Italian and Cretan genetics.

[Dylan]

According to MDLP K23, their closest Greek match is of course Cretan, and then Anatolian Greek. This is for Joseph Capelli who falsely claims Sicilians are genetically closer to Peloponnesians.

Are Abruzzese genetically closer to Peloponnesians? Several Abruzzese cities were founded by Pelponessians (I think)

[Sikeliot]

Are Abruzzese genetically closer to Peloponnesians? Several Abruzzese cities were founded by Pelponessians (I think)

I believe so, yes. But it has more to do with the ratio of North European to extra Near Eastern ancestry being closer to that in Abruzzo than in Sicily.