West Asian?

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

I get atypically high amount of West Asian on genetics tests, I want to know why. I know that these genetics are most common in the Caucasus.

Any ideas why I get atypically high West Asian?

[Hadouken]

you are my honorary west asian bro from now on :cool:

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

you are my honorary west asian bro from now on :cool:

West Asians must stick together. :)

[Linebacker]

Engineer!

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Engineer!

Heck yeah!

[Gaston]

If you don't compare yourself to the reference populations, preferably yours (or close to what you actually are), then it is completely useless.


As for the West Asian thingy, it's almost an outdated component that peaks in West Asia but has spills over Europe and beyond. It has some ANE affinities and looks like a more recent (bronze age) introgression in the Near East.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

If you don't compare yourself to the reference populations, preferably yours (or close to what you actually are), then it is completely useless.


As for the West Asian thingy, it's almost an outdated component that peaks in West Asia but has spills over Europe and beyond. It has some ANE affinities and looks like a more recent (bronze age) introgression in the Near East.

It's Neolithic, right?

I'm just wondering WHY I get more than other people of my ethnicities? There has to be a reason.

[Gaston]

It's Neolithic, right?

I'm just wondering WHY I get more than other people of my ethnicities? There has to be a reason.

No, not neolithic. It most likely formed in the Near East during the Bronze age (or a little earlier) as a mix between native Middle Easterners (high in Basal Eurasian) + new comers from the Eurasian steppes which harboured Ancient North Eurasian ancestry.
In Europe, it arrived slightly later or much later for part of it in Southern Europe.


How much more do you get than your ethnicity? It could be the result of the calculator effect, which gives completely different results to the people who weren't used to create the calculator.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

No, not neolithic. It most likely formed in the Near East during the Bronze age (or a little earlier) as a mix between native Middle Easterners (high in Basal Eurasian) + new comers from the Eurasian steppes which harboured Ancient North Eurasian ancestry.
In Europe, it arrived slightly later or much later for part of it in Southern Europe.


How much more do you get than your ethnicity? It could be the result of the calculator effect, which gives completely different results to the people who weren't used to create the calculator.

I don't know the averages (well, I did, but I forgot). I get almost 11% and my ethnicities are in general a mix of Irish, Swedish, Norwegian, British, German, Dutch, etc. basically north-northwest European.

[Gaston]

I don't know the averages (well, I did, but I forgot). I get almost 11% and my ethnicities are in general a mix of Irish, Swedish, Norwegian, British, German, Dutch, etc. basically north-northwest European.

Doesn't look that high. Some continental Northern Europeans are around that much "West Asian". I think you shouldn't focus too much on it, it's already obsolete because it is based on the endogamy of modern populations (West Asians here). With ancient DNA being more and more available, we'll use ancient populations as references, not modern ones (which make sense!).

[SKYNET]

long neckoid engineer from west asia

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Doesn't look that high. Some continental Northern Europeans are around that much "West Asian". I think you shouldn't focus too much on it, it's already obsolete because it is based on the endogamy of modern populations (West Asians here). With ancient DNA being more and more available, we'll use ancient populations as references, not modern ones (which make sense!).

I have an off-topic question.

I have some roots in deep Southern France next to Italy but it is quite distant. I don't know if it has influenced me at all, genetically. You can see my genetics in my last thread before this one.

Often people of Huguenot descent in my country, no matter how distant, tend to embrace it, as there is Frenchophilism in my country (take it as a compliment) my family was one of those, I was always told of my French roots growing up :) so I want to embrace it, but I am not sure if it had any effect on me genetically, because it is quite distant.

I always wonder, how to tell when something is too distant to make any genetic impact...where do we draw the line?

[Gaston]

I have an off-topic question.

I have some roots in deep Southern France next to Italy but it is quite distant. I don't know if it has influenced me at all, genetically. You can see my genetics in my last thread before this one.

Often people of Huguenot descent in my country, no matter how distant, tend to embrace it, as there is Frenchophilism in my country (take it as a compliment) my family was one of those, I was always told of my French roots growing up :) so I want to embrace it, but I am not sure if it had any effect on me genetically, because it is quite distant.

I always wonder, how to tell when something is too distant to make any genetic impact...where do we draw the line?

Cool, it's part of you, in a way or another. :) You'll always be welcome here.

But indeed, it's not really possible to tell because European populations are so similar to each other genetically it's impossible to measure how much you are of this ancestry except by paper trails. If you are a New Worlder - which I assume you are -then it shouldn't be completely impossible to do. Do you have surnames (if lucky)?

It should also be possible to find distant cousins from France if you share some segments of your genome with French users at 23andme, gedmatch etc... There aren't many French people who get tested yet compared to people from the anglo world but one has to be patient!

As for Southeastern French, they tend to have a higher West Asian score than Southwestern French (probably because they are more post bronze age West Asian and more Indo-European than Aquitanians). But they aren't very southern or "mediterranean" for their location actually, because their levels of "native" European ancestry (Western Hunter-Gatherers from mesolithic Europe) is at the levels of Central and Northern Europeans.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Cool, it's part of you, in a way or another. :) You'll always be welcome here.

But indeed, it's not really possible to tell because European populations are so similar to each other genetically it's impossible to measure how much you are of this ancestry except by paper trails. If you are a New Worlder - which I assume you are -then it shouldn't be completely impossible to do. Do you have surnames (if lucky)?

It should also be possible to find distant cousins from France if you share some segments of your genome with French users at 23andme, gedmatch etc... There aren't many French people who get tested yet compared to people from the anglo world but one has to be patient!

As for Southeastern French, they tend to have a higher West Asian score than Southwestern French (probably because they are more post bronze age West Asian and more Indo-European than Aquitanians). But they aren't very southern or "mediterranean" for their location actually, because their levels of "native" European ancestry (Western Hunter-Gatherers from mesolithic Europe) is at the levels of Central and Northern Europeans.

Thanks for the info and I appreciate your nice words :)

Surnames: Cabiness/Cabaniss/Cabanis (original form). And Loubatieres. Cabanis is French and Loubatieres is Occitan.

[Gaston]

Thanks for the info and I appreciate your nice words :)

Surnames: Cabiness/Cabaniss/Cabanis (original form). And Loubatieres. Cabanis is French and Loubatieres is Occitan.

You're welcome.
I'll try to see what I can do with these names.