Genetic relationship between the Sami and the Amerindians.

[Southerner]

Is there any genetic relationship between the Sami and Amerindians?

Sami family (1900)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Saami_Family_1900.jpg/640px-Saami_Family_1900.jpg

Sami seaman
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Sea_sami_man.jpg

Inuit
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/27/4c/92/274c92e3c9f8f012356516c8f77b5482.jpg

Apache
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/american-indians/pictures/apache/apache-man.jpg

Nahuatl
http://blogs.ntm.org/rachel-chapman/files/2012/06/valentina-lo-res.jpg

Sami
http://agoras.typepad.fr/.a/6a00d8341ce44553ef01a5115ab563970c-pi

Métis
http://esask.uregina.ca/management/app/assets/img/enc2/selectedbig/51C20712-1560-95DA-436DDE3F38959B48.jpg

[Berahthraban]

The Samis are like Finns except with more ANE (a bit less WHG and ENF) and significant (10 - 15%) Siberian ancestry. Conclusion: Because of Samis high ANE combined with some East Euroasian, they share some ancestry with Amerindians. The WHG component creates a big distance between them as well as a bit of ENF. Am I right? Tell me if you disagree.

[Nordicist]

The Eskimos/Inuits/Yupiks are not Amerindians. They are a Siberian mongoloid ethnicity that recently migrated into North America some 500-1500 years ago.

I don't see any connection between the Samis and Amerindians. Samis have a high percentage of Y-Haplotype N (some have Y-Haplotype I1 and R1a) and most Amerindians have Y-Haplotype Q (some have Y-Haplotype R1b or C3).

These two are very different phenotypical groups. The only commonality they have is that their ancestors originated in Siberia. But having the same geographic origination does not mean having the same ancestral origination. The Sami language groups belongs to the Finno-Ugric family. The Amerindians speak various languages that are not connected at all to the Altaic or Uralic groups.

[Southerner]

The Eskimos/Inuits/Yupiks are not Amerindians. They are a Siberian mongoloid ethnicity that recently migrated into North America some 500-1500 years ago.

I don't see any connection between the Samis and Amerindians. Samis have a high percentage of Y-Haplotype N (some have Y-Haplotype I1 and R1a) and most Amerindians have Y-Haplotype Q (some have Y-Haplotype R1b or C3).

These two are very different phenotypical groups. The only commonality they have is that their ancestors originated in Siberia. But having the same geographic origination does not mean having the same ancestral origination. The Sami language groups belongs to the Finno-Ugric family. The Amerindians speak various languages that are not connected at all to the Altaic or Uralic groups.
Eh........sorta. There is linguistic research that did find words that are also found in various Altaic languages. Now, I'm not saying it's fact and the connection is thousands of years old, but there is nevertheless evidence.

[Nordicist]

Eh........sorta. There is linguistic research that did find words that are also found in various Altaic languages. Now, I'm not saying it's fact and the connection is thousands of years old, but there is nevertheless evidence.

It is called linguistic borrowing. None of the Amerindian languages have a genetic relationship to either Altaic or Uralic. The only Amerindian language today that has any genetic relationship to Siberia is the Navajo/Apache /Athabaskan languages (the Na-Dene family) that is connected to the Yeniseian (the Ket language in central Siberia). The equivalent of linguistic borrowing is how some Arabic words are adopted by various Indo-European languages.

[Demon Revival]

They share a bit of ancestry with Native Americans but so do Finns, Russians and to a lesser extent other Scandos and Balts. But all in all, WHG and ENF (totally absent on Amerindians, but are still the majority of genetic ancestry of Saamis, which they share with Scandos) make them thoroughly different.

[Dick]

I'm craving sushi now

[Grab the Gauge]

The Samis are like Finns except with more ANE (a bit less WHG and ENF) and significant (10 - 15%) Siberian ancestry. Conclusion: Because of Samis high ANE combined with some East Euroasian, they share some ancestry with Amerindians. The WHG component creates a big distance between them as well as a bit of ENF. Am I right? Tell me if you disagree.

I love how you substitue "Siberian" for Mongoloid and "East Euroasian" for "East Eurasian". Utterly repulsive. You just can't accept reality (is there anyone left who can?)

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

I'm craving sushi now

Sounds good man, I wish I had sushi right now too

[Dick]

Sounds good man, I wish I had sushi right now too

Yup, wasabi and soya sauce. sex in your mouth

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

What are the cultural connections do they have?. They obviously don't descend from each other really as they share very different haplogroups.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Yup, wasabi and soya sauce. sex in your mouth

Wasabi!! . First time I tried it I thought it was guacamole because it was at a spanish / chinese food buffet. Not like good sex!

I like sushi just not wasabi : P

[Dick]

spanish / chinese food buffet.P

You live in Colorado?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

You live in Colorado?
No I live in East coast

[Dick]

No I live in East coast

Jew York?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Jew York?

yes I live in Ny

[Dick]

yes I live in Ny

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/67/23/89/672389f89112b076012cc70189217bb7.gif

[Berahthraban]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/67/23/89/672389f89112b076012cc70189217bb7.gif

This picture/gif is the most disturbing I have ever seen, and I have seen a lot of shit on the internet.

[MINARDOWICZ]

The Samis are like Finns except with more ANE (a bit less WHG and ENF) and significant (10 - 15%) Siberian ancestry. Conclusion: Because of Samis high ANE combined with some East Euroasian, they share some ancestry with Amerindians. The WHG component creates a big distance between them as well as a bit of ENF. Am I right? Tell me if you disagree.

You are way off. Go look at some Sami GEDmatch kits, most are about 25-30% NE Asian.

[Berahthraban]

You are way off. Go look at some Sami GEDmatch kits, most are about 25-30% NE Asian.

I doubt it, but if you have some feel free to link it :)

[Taiga Lake]

Samis are genetically 90-95 % Northern European and rest is Siberian, so there are Asian ancestors, but mostly white even blond haired and blue eyed. Like this, not very dark is she haha.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/11/sami-reindeer-herders/img/01-ella-li-spik-670.jpg

[MINARDOWICZ]

I doubt it, but if you have some feel free to link it :)
Dude, I have seen multiple ones and I will try to dig them up to show you. How could you believe Sami have only that much Asian when they look so different from Europeans?

Oh, here is an example.. Notice 25% Siberian? http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5960240/1/

[johen]

Sami kept old indian customs, so they might be descendants of American Indian, who were mixed with Hg N.

sami baby
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Lapland_Mother_NGM-v31-p556.jpg

indian baby
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/american-indians/pictures/apache/baby-indian.jpg

[johen]

sami's pit-house, which is almost similar to american indian's pit-house, the origin of pit-grave or kurgan.
see also sami baby
https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/1613742_f496.jpg

[Myanthropologies]

Lol what is this thread?

[Myanthropologies]

I've been wanting to find more out about the sami though. They seem interesting.