Lukas Hofer Italian athlete from the south Tyrol

[Ctwentysevenj]

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[King Claus]

grats you found an italian mud blood that looks like a german

[crazyladybutterfly]

grats you found an italian mud blood that looks like a german

sud tirolese are mud blooded now? xD

[King Claus]

sud tirolese are mud blooded now? xD
yea, shitaly borders on africa and the middle east and is the home of the beast.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Apricity hasn't changed!

[Ctwentysevenj]

grats you found an italian mud blood that looks like a german

Come on Donald, don't tell me you are one of those wannabe MENA Europeans. Yes a MENA wannabe Euro.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Well Lukas Hofer could not in a million years pass in any part of the Iberian peninsular! Too northern and fair complexion.

[Ctwentysevenj]

grats you found an italian mud blood that looks like a german

He is a million times more Euro than you!

[Ctwentysevenj]

He is I think Halstatt Nordid. Where could he pass?

http://www.sportnews.bz/uploads/pics/Hofer_Lukas_Pressemeeting_18_11_2013_02.jpg

[Ctwentysevenj]

Showing his family

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=g-SAv5X6ano

[LieDetector]

Germanic

[Shepherd]

His fathers name is Franz Hofer. Hofer is a German surname.

Coincidence? :rolleyes:

[alnortedelsur]

Yes CJ27. Keep on showing us the "most typical" Italian people.

These are more "typical Italians" in an Italian video clip filmed in Italy, for your enjoyment. Jack off with it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs

[Ctwentysevenj]

His fathers name is Franz Hofer. Hofer is a German surname.

Coincidence? :rolleyes:

That's right, he is from the South Tyrol part of Italy. His ancestors are native to that area. Like many larger countries of Europe you have areas that their mother tougue and also ethnically different than rest of the country. Like the Basques in Spain, even the Catolonians consider themselves different from the rest of Spain and wish to become independent. Sorbs in Germany, Hungarians in Romania and the Swedish minority in Finland etc.

[Shepherd]

That's right, he is from the South Tyrol part of Italy. His ancestors are native to that area. Like many larger countries of Europe you have areas that their mother tougue and also ethnically different than rest of the country. Like the Basques in Spain, even the Catolonians consider themselves different from the rest of Spain and wish to become independent. Sorbs in Germany, Hungarians in Romania and the Swedish minority in Finland etc.

Correct me if Im wrong but theyre just assimilated Austrians then?

Just because Italy owns that land doesnt mean his family is ethnically Italian.

Its like posting a FennoSwede and saying "look how Swedish the Finns look!"

[alnortedelsur]

That's right, he is from the South Tyrol part of Italy. His ancestors are native to that area. Like many larger countries of Europe you have areas that their mother tougue and also ethnically different than rest of the country. Like the Basques in Spain, even the Catolonians consider themselves different from the rest of Spain and wish to become independent. Sorbs in Germany, Hungarians in Romania and the Swedish minority in Finland etc.

Basques and Catalans are way more ethnic Spanish (genetically, phenotypically and racially speaking) than people from Tyrol are "genuinely" ethnic Italian. Just saying :rolleyes:

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Basques and Catalans are way more ethnic Spanish (genetically, phenotypically and racially speaking) than people from Tyrol are "genuinely" ethnic Italian. Just saying :rolleyes:

Yes. And that's not an opinion but the reality. He is a stupid idiot, lol.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Correct me if Im wrong but theyre just assimilated Austrians then?

Just because Italy owns that land doesnt mean his family is ethnically Italian.

Its like posting a FennoSwede and saying "look how Swedish the Finns look!"

I didn't say he is ethically Italian. As I said there are many countries in Europe that have indigenous other ethnic groups other than the majority of the country. Due to the Treaty of St. Germain , that part of Austria was annexed by Italy after the first world. Lukas Hofer's nationality is Italian, but ethnically German. There are three other smaller German speaking groups in Italy that are outside of the south Tyrol like the Walser Germans in north west Italy and the Mocheno and Cimbrian In the Trento province.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Apricity hasn't changed!

You haven't change, you are the same stupid idiot.

[Shepherd]

I didn't say he is ethically Italian. As I said there are many countries in Europe that have indigenous other ethnic groups other than the majority of the country. Due to the Treaty of St. Germain , that part of Austria was annexed by Italy after the first world. Lukas Hofer's nationality is Italian, but ethnically German. There are three other smaller German speaking groups in Italy that are outside of the south Tyrol like the Walser Germans in north west Italy and the Mocheno and Cimbrian In the Trento province.

Ok, I just thought you were trying to pass him off as ethnically Italian

[Ctwentysevenj]

Yes. And that's not an opinion but the reality. He is a stupid idiot, lol.

Well both areas would like to become independent.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Well both areas would like to become independent.

So? but that doesn't change the reality that Basques and Catalans are ethnic Iberian and Spaniard. While your precious south Tyrol people that you ridiculously like to used and pass as ethnic "Italians" to blonde up Italians are not ethinic, Italians. LOL!!! Nope.

[Ctwentysevenj]

So? but that doesn't change the reality that Basques and Catalans are ethnic Iberian and Spaniard. While your precious south Tyrol people that you ridiculously like to used and pass as ethnic "Italians" to blonde up Italians are not ethinic, Italians. LOL!!! Nope.

Never said he was ethically Italian, not just him, but others. Did you read my previous post. His nationality is Italian, but ethnically German.

[alnortedelsur]

Well both areas would like to become independent.

Only SOME of them want to separate, moron. And those who want to separate are those who have been fooled by selfish regional leaders who want to separate those regions for selfish reasons.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Anyway back to the topic, where can Lukas pass?

[EL_BARBARO]

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He resembles an Austrian rather than a Italian to me.

Ethnically talking, I mean.

His name and surname look austrian too.

Wasn¡t South Tyrol a part of Austria less than one century ago?

[Enflamme]

Anyway back to the topic, where can Lukas pass?

Look just Baltid for me : can pass in Nordic country but not Central and Southern Europe...

And I have a doubt that he can pass in Germany; perhaps in some parts of Germany, but not in all of Germany and not Austria.

[EL_BARBARO]

Anyway back to the topic, where can Lukas pass?

My opinion is Austria, a central european individual.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Look just Baltid for me : can pass in Nordic country but not Central and Southern Europe...

And I have a doubt that he can pass in Germany; perhaps in some parts of Germany, but not in all of Germany and not Austria.

As he is South Tyrolese, he is German/Austrian. So I would assume he would pass in Germany and Austria plus Scandinavia and the Netherlands.

[EL_BARBARO]

As he is South Tyrolese, he is German/Austrian. So I would assume he would pass in Germany and Austria plus Scandinavia and the Netherlands.


Yes, indeed, since he seems to have a clear germanic origin, like all those countries you refer.

[The Blade]

Nordic + Borreby.

[Ctwentysevenj]

https://m.youtube.com/?reload=2&rdm=25rzry74r#/watch?v=g-SAv5X6ano

[crazyladybutterfly]

So? but that doesn't change the reality that Basques and Catalans are ethnic Iberian and Spaniard. While your precious south Tyrol people that you ridiculously like to used and pass as ethnic "Italians" to blonde up Italians are not ethinic, Italians. LOL!!! Nope.

they re pretty close genetically to northern italians as long as someone clarifies they re sud tyrolese ( as ctwentysevenj did for what i ve seen) i dont see anything wrong with it.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

He looks pure German.

[Tobi]

Real italians are better looking than "italians from south tyrol".

[crazyladybutterfly]

Real italians are better looking than "italians from south tyrol".

i tend to disagree . sadly the northern the better looking you are xD

[Tobi]

i tend to disagree . sadly the northern the better looking you are xD

They are not italians. Northern italians are better looking than people from south tyrol (at least the ones posted by this guy). Italians are famous here for being "very good looking".

[crazyladybutterfly]

They are not italians. Northern italians are better looking than people from south tyrol (at least the ones posted by this guy). Italians are famous here for being "very good looking".

the genetic difference between northern and southern italians is great and sud tirolese are closer to northern italians than nrothern italians are close to sicilians, being italian isnt a matter of genetics but on how you feel. if they want to be italians then they re italians.
honestly they dont look particulary good looking to me , not even the northern ones.. they 're just as good looking as other southern europeans nothing special
Lukas Hofer is far better looking than 98% of italians i've seen in my life

[Tobi]

the genetic difference between northern and southern italians is great , being italian isnt a matter of genetics but on how you feel. if they want to be italians then they re italians

Last time that I've checked the Google, they don't want to be part of Italy.

http://www.occupy.com/sites/default/files/field/image/south-tyrol-is-not-italian.jpg

[caviezel]

the guy doesn't look that typical for Austria, you can find plenty of darker austrian like Werner Faymann or Falco. I'm saying this to all the sangria guzzling and paella munching trolls who think Austria is like Scandinavia. the rate of blondism is clinal pretty much in all Europe.

[crazyladybutterfly]

Last time that I've checked the Google, they don't want to be part of Italy.

http://www.occupy.com/sites/default/files/field/image/south-tyrol-is-not-italian.jpg

but half of them want to stay

[Danishmend]

Do Italians worship him?

[crazyladybutterfly]

Do Italians worship him?

no?

[Cristiano viejo]

hahahaha what pathetic is this 27 but and all what we laugh with him? :laugh2:

[Tobi]

but half of them want to stay

Veneto and Lombardy independence also? I've read it once. I don't know if it's true thought.

[Cristiano viejo]

Last time that I've checked the Google, they don't want to be part of Italy.

http://www.occupy.com/sites/default/files/field/image/south-tyrol-is-not-italian.jpg

:D

[Ctwentysevenj]

Well Catalonia want to become independent. Also the Basque. Many people have been killed in their, Basque, struggle for independence.

[Ctwentysevenj]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_independence


Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES
Pro-independence parties in Spain's richest region, Catalonia, are pushing ahead with a historic plan for an independent state within 18 months, and the national government in Madrid is fighting back.
The Catalan regional parliament has voted to start the secession process, but Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has gone to the Constitutional Court to suspend the resolution.
Secession is banned under Spain's constitution and the prime minister has accused campaigners of trying to "liquidate" the nation.
What has happened in Catalonia?
When Catalan nationalists held an unofficial poll in November 2014, 80% of those who voted backed independence.
The vote was non-binding as the Constitutional Court had ruled it illegal. But the secessionists viewed it as a defining moment and declared regional elections in September 2015 would be a de facto referendum on independence.
Catalan nationalist parties won an absolute majority in the 135-seat regional assembly and on 9 November pushed through a motion to start the process towards independence.
The Spanish government has hit back, declaring the secessionist step unconstitutional.
Do Catalans want independence?
The votes suggest they have popular support, but last November's non-binding poll was based on relatively low turnout of 2.2 million voters out of a potential 5.4 million.
And the Junts pel Si (Together for Yes) coalition of two major separatist parties which won this year's regional election relied on the support of a radical left-wing party, CUP, to secure its majority in the Catalan parliament. Even then, they fell short of a majority of voters, with 48% support.
So the secessionists control the regional parliament but Catalan opinion on secession appears evenly divided.
And with Spain facing a general election on 20 December, and no party expected to win a clear majority nationally, the Catalan issue is only adding to political uncertainty.
Catalonia - its history, politics and language
Could Catalonia really break away?
That is the process that the Catalan parliament has voted to start - with plans for legislation to begin by early December on a separate constitution, treasury and social security system.
Catalans already have extensive autonomy in education, health and policing. But acting Catalan President Artur Mas wants the rapid creation of other trappings of an independent state, too, such as a diplomatic service, central bank and armed forces.
But Spain's Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy, whose Popular Party is facing a critical test in December national elections, may invoke article 155 of the constitution that allows the national government to compel an autonomous regional authority to meet its constitutional obligations.
Before the 2014 vote, he took the case to the Constitutional Court and the poll was declared illegal. Artur Mas is facing criminal charges as a result. And now Mr Rajoy has returned to the court to have the regional assembly's motion suspended.
But there is a growing demand in Madrid for the government to engage with Catalan leaders.
So far, the independence movement remains peaceful and organised, in stark contrast, for instance, to the separatist violence which plagued the Spanish Basque Country until recently.
Why independence now?
Spain's rapid return to democracy after the death of dictator General Francisco Franco in 1975 brought devolution for Catalonia, along with Spain's other regions.
Prosperity followed, with Barcelona becoming one of the EU's most high-profile cities, famed for its 1992 Summer Olympics, trade fairs and its football.
But Spain's economic crisis hit Catalonia hard, leaving it with 19% unemployment (compared with 21% nationally). The region, which makes up 16% of Spain's population, accounts for almost 19% of Spanish GDP but there is a widespread feeling that the central government takes much more than it gives back.
This sense of injustice fuels the independence campaign, especially since Mr Mas was rebuffed by Mr Rajoy when he asked for greater fiscal powers in 2012.
Catalan became the joint official language along with Spanish after the return to democracy. But in recent years Spain has challenged its status as the first language of instruction in schools.
Does Madrid milk the Catalans?
It is difficult to calculate how much more Catalans contribute in taxes to Madrid each year than they get back from investment in services such as schools and hospitals because of Spain's complex system of budget transfers.
However, Spanish government data from 2011, published only this year, show the region paid €8.5bn (£6bn) more than it got back. According to the Catalan government, the discrepancy was closer to €11.1bn - the equivalent of nearly half of Catalonia's budget for this year.
Meanwhile, state investment in Catalonia continues to drop: the 2015 draft national budget allocated 9.5% to Catalonia - compared with nearly 16% in 2003.
While some Catalans may accept their tax money being used to help ailing southern regions like Andalusia, there is a perception that their own public services are being underfunded at the same time.
On the other hand, Spanish unionists argue that taxpayers in the Madrid region pay out even more.
Is Catalonia really a country?
Scotland's 2014 independence referendum inspired Mr Mas and his supporters, despite the No camp's victory. Unlike Catalans, Scots were allowed a legitimate vote on their future.
With its own language, a recorded history of more than 1,000 years as a distinct region, and a population nearly as big as Switzerland's (7.5 million), Catalonia lays a strong claim to nationhood.
It also happens to be a vital part of the Spanish state, locked in since the 15th Century, and subjected periodically to repressive campaigns to make it "more Spanish".
According to the most recent Catalan government data, nearly one in five adults living in Catalonia today was born in a different part of Spain, while under Franco, the proportion was even higher, at 36.7% (figures for 1970).
Depending on who you ask, Barcelona today is the capital of Catalonia - or Spain's second city.
Catalonia profile - Timeline
How will national elections affect Catalonia?
Catalonia is worth much more to Spain economically than Scotland is to the UK.
So whoever runs Spain after the December general election will want Catalonia to remain part of it.
But momentous changes may be afoot in the country's national politics and it is not yet clear who will win.
The Popular Party may prefer to stick to the legal route to keep the secessionists in check.
The opposition socialists are against independence but have mooted a constitutional reform that would grant the region more powers. The anti-capitalist Podemos movement supports Catalonia's right to a referendum.
The rise of new parties also complicates the picture in Catalonia.
The centre-right Citizens (Ciudadanos) party, which was born in Catalonia, has become the second force in Catalan politics, winning almost 18% of the vote. Notably, the party is firmly opposed to independence and is surging in the opinion polls nationally too.
Would an independent Catalonia remain in the EU?
Independence campaigners argue the idea of a rich region like Catalonia being expelled from the EU is unthinkable.
In a BBC interview, Raul Romeva of Together for Yes said that 7.5 million Catalan citizens who were already part of the EU could not be removed from it. However, the region would likely have to apply to become a member from scratch, as it would need to be recognised as a state by all 28 existing members.
The EU's executive body, the European Commission, has tried to stay out of the debate, insisting that is not for the Commission to take a position on a member state's constitutional arrangements.
But European leaders have backed the stance of the Madrid government.
UK Prime Minister David Cameron has warned that an independent Catalonia could end up outside the EU and would have to "take its place at the back of the queue" if it sought to rejoin. And Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel has said she stands with Mr Rajoy on respecting "national law".

[Cristiano viejo]

Well Catalonia want to become independent. Also the Basque. Many people have been killed in their, Basque, struggle for independence.
No, not true. Most of Catalans and overall Basque are against the independence. I have posted tons of polls about this, done for their own separatist politicians.
In any case they are ethnically Spanish. Iberians if you like better. But this Lukas Hofer... oh man, you improved yourself ;)

[aherne]

Borreby + Faelid + Aryan. More typical as Dane than German.