View Full Version : My Dr J.Douglas McDonald results
dddcc
08-29-2016, 07:33 AM
Here my Dr J.Douglas McDonald results (I like to thank him for his attention) , could anyone please help me interpret my results since I'm novice to this stuff.
My known ancestry is:
1-Maternal side:
1 Sudanese great-grandfather and the other 3 great grandparents being Tunisian
2-Paternal side:
Supposedly North-European
The automated computer results are as follows.
Most likely fit is 65.1% (+- 0.7%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 34.9% (+- 0.7%) Mideast (all North Africa)
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Hungary= 0.645 Moroccan= 0.355 or
French= 0.658 Moroccan= 0.342
Second most likely fit is 85.4% (+- 4.4%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 14.6% (+- 4.4%) Africa (various subcontinents)
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Spain= 0.823 T-Ethiopia= 0.177 or
Spain= 0.823 A-Ethiopia= 0.177 or
Tuscan= 0.916 Mandenka= 0.084
A custom fit with just Mideast (including North Africa) and Europe fits
perfectly, even the sub-Saharan African parts (through North Africa).
English 0.5275 Sephardic 0.1643 Moroccan 0.3083 or
French 0.4388 Romania 0.2465 Moroccan 0.3147 or
French 0.6605 Bedouin_Sou 0.0358 Moroccan 0.3037 or
Irish 0.3557 Tuscan 0.3247 Moroccan 0.3197 or
French 0.6150 Moroccan 0.3104 Turkish 0.0746 or
English 0.4895 Sicily 0.2022 Moroccan 0.3083 or
French 0.6267 Iranian 0.0646 Moroccan 0.3086 or
Irish 0.4208 Sicily 0.2852 Moroccan 0.2940 or
Irish 0.4721 Sephardic 0.2317 Moroccan 0.2961 or
Italian 0.4640 Belorus 0.2298 Moroccan 0.3062
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de Burgh II
08-29-2016, 11:02 PM
From the mathematical approximations from his own personal assessments via his data-sets of population reference samples; it would seem that you lean mostly to being predominantly 40-70% generalized European (West, Central and South Euro, etc.) and 30-60% North African/African/Middle-East.
So if we to discern your leaning in the first PCA chart; you would lean more towards very Southern European/Jewish standing as a middle ground between your Central/Western/Southern European and Middle Eastern/N.African groupings. Leaning a little bit more towards the Euro side.
For the second PCA chart; it pulls you down in the southern direction towards the North African grouping slightly, but leaning more towards Euro affiliations.
The most important element I would pay attention to is your computerized karyotype that is drawn tends to be the most accurate illustration of both your autosomal, maternal and paternal dna together. I would say roughly 20.60/44 out of your autosomal dna is European so it would come out to 46.81% Euro plus very minor African admixture under <1%. Whereas the Middle Eastern/North African is roughly 23.40/44 out of your autosomes would come out to be 53.18% Middle eastern/North African with some slight African admixture in the mix.
So I you are fair, half-half blend of both Mid-East/N.African/African and European admixtures.
dddcc
08-31-2016, 12:12 PM
Thanks a lot for your enlightening explication:thumb001:
I have 3 questions (could be dumb questions since I'm novice to this stuff)
1/Based on chromosome paintings could I infer the ethnicity of my hypothethical paternal progenitor (does he have some African admixture?) I'm asking that because I noticed that there are some African segments next and on the same side of the European-segment-rich ''chromatid??''
2/How come my 20. chromosome being mostly middle-eastern on both "chromatids"?
3/Also are my results in line with my known maternal ancestry of 25% Sudanese and 75% Tunisian, I'm suspecting that my scores dont fit very well with me being 12,5% Sudanese and 37,5% typical Tunisian because of my low SSA score (if I would assume that Tunisians are generally 15% SSA and Sudaneses are generally 50% SSA, I would have expected something close to 12% SSA when I actuall have near 8,5% SSA) and perhaps my maternal grandmother family are a bit deviating (for some reason) from typical Tunisians?
On FTDNA I have near 50 pages of matches, most of them have British, German, Swedish and other Germanic surnames as well as few Finnic ones, in geni.com I have 4 matches 3 of them Swede and 1 Norwegian and actually the ftdna match I share with it the longest total CM (around 130 CM) has as matches peoples of Swedish surnames (and other Germanic names) with few ones having Finnic surnames.
http://i65.tinypic.com/308jkp4.png
de Burgh II
08-31-2016, 06:39 PM
Thanks a lot for your enlightening explication:thumb001:
I have 3 questions (could be dumb questions since I'm novice to this stuff)
1/Based on chromosome paintings could I infer the ethnicity of my hypothethical paternal progenitor (does he have some African admixture?) I'm asking that because I noticed that there are some African segments next and on the same side of the European-segment-rich ''chromatid??''
2/How come my 20. chromosome being mostly middle-eastern on both "chromatids"?
3/Also are my results in line with my known maternal ancestry of 25% Sudanese and 75% Tunisian, I'm suspecting that my scores dont fit very well with me being 12,5% Sudanese and 37,5% typical Tunisian because of my low SSA score (if I would assume that Tunisians are generally 15% SSA and Sudaneses are generally 50% SSA, I would have expected something close to 12% SSA when I actuall have near 8,5% SSA) and perhaps my maternal grandmother family are a bit deviating (for some reason) from typical Tunisians?
On FTDNA I have near 50 pages of matches, most of them have British, German, Swedish and other Germanic surnames as well as few Finnic ones, in geni.com I have 4 matches 3 of them Swede and 1 Norwegian and actually the ftdna match I share with it the longest total CM (around 130 CM) has as matches peoples of Swedish surnames (and other Germanic names) with few ones having Finnic surnames.
http://i65.tinypic.com/308jkp4.png
1) Chromatid is essentially an early form of a chromosome bounded to the center via a centromere composed of two strands of one's genetic dna before undergoing cell division.
http://www.janewhitney.com/img/sister_chromatids.jpg
So in essence, ancestry is molded together and uses all of one's ancestral influences; that simply vary in different quantities via recombination.
Neverthless, there is some minimal African influences on the paternal, European side; that seems to exist in small fragments from a distant past generations back.
*Yes, chromosome paintings are also a good way to look at one's ancestry in detail which is similar to a karyotype picture in its own right.
2) The answer is that genetics is "randomized" in the sense that there is no set mathematical approximations/formula as to the amount of selected, biologically-distinct "ancestry pieces" that gets molded together in your overall dna makeup. Meaning in this scenario, your 20th chomosome/autosome by its own predetermined genetic chance that you inherited mostly Middle Eastern dna.
Think of genetics as flipping a coin:
https://sciencelens.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/coin_flip_s.jpg
Genetics doesn't work in "absolutes" or "definites"; it is merely encoded by chance in your dna that will determine to be the most prominent in what influences the majority of one's ancestry. So, in this scenario, European and Tunisian/native North African is the majority of your most recent ancestry; so by random chance, these ancestries will be more prominent in your dna varying differently that will be detectable whereas very distant ancestry will only be detectable as smaller fragments in your overall dna.
3) I would say your Sudanese side exist maternally through your maternal side, but not as hyphenated up to being at 25%. The Sudanese side, like you said, around 8-12% is a good approximation. Whereas the rest is predominantly Tunisian/native North African with European influences.
Maguzanci
08-31-2016, 07:41 PM
This is how I interpret it: the most fit is that 65% of your genome are derived from Europe while the rest 35% of your genome are derived from North Africa, Middle East and SSA. Now this is weird to me because if you are roughly half North Euro half North African, the first best fit should be 50% of your genome derived from Europe and another 50% from North Africa/Middle East/Africa.
The reason I think your Euro part increase is that the European is absorbing a substantial amount of DNA that is derived from the NA/ME/SSA part. This because Europeans also have some substantial ancient derived ancestry from the EEF/Anatolian Neolithic and WHG/WHG-like populations which North Africans themselves are substantially derived from. So I believe that your European ancestry best fit might be significantly increase due to share Anatolian Neolithic and WHG/WHG-like affinity with North Africans.
It is interesting that the best fit for the European part of your ancestry is Hungarian, French while the best fit for North African ancestry is Moroccan.
What interesting is now your second best fit is with around 85% (plus minus 4.4%) of your genes being derived from Europe and 14.6% (plus minus 4.4%) of your genes derived from NA/ME/SSA. In this case it seems the European part is absorbing a significant amount of EEF/Anatolian Neolithic and WHG genome from the latter in a similar case to the previous best fit you have.
This time your best fit is rather South Euro populations that are Spanish and Tuscan while your NA/ME/SSA part is being represented by a Horner population like Ethiopian and an actual SSA Negroid population like Mandinka.
Lets look at the first approximation of the first fit. shows you being around 82.3% Spanish and 17.7% Ethiopian. Most Horners including Ethiopians are genetically around 50% West Eurasian/Caucasian and 50% SSA/Negroid. This means that around 50% of the Ethiopian fit is derived from West Eurasia which means that your African part would only be around 8.5% from the Ethiopian population.
The second approximation is that you are 91.6% Tuscan and 8.4% Mandinka. Mandinka as an SSA/Negroid population actually have very tiny negligible 1-2% Eurasian admix that likely come from their minor affinity to North Africa. So maybe that's why Mandinka are choose as the best SSA fit for you.
Tuscan I believe are 100% West Eurasian (might have significant Basal Eurasian as most modern day West Eurasian populations do). So it would show you being 91.6~92% West Eurasian and 8.4~8% SSA in my opinion.
Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
08-31-2016, 07:42 PM
Seems like you are what you thought you were.
Maguzanci
08-31-2016, 08:00 PM
Thanks a lot for your enlightening explication:thumb001:
I have 3 questions (could be dumb questions since I'm novice to this stuff)
1/Based on chromosome paintings could I infer the ethnicity of my hypothethical paternal progenitor (does he have some African admixture?) I'm asking that because I noticed that there are some African segments next and on the same side of the European-segment-rich ''chromatid??''
2/How come my 20. chromosome being mostly middle-eastern on both "chromatids"?
3/Also are my results in line with my known maternal ancestry of 25% Sudanese and 75% Tunisian, I'm suspecting that my scores dont fit very well with me being 12,5% Sudanese and 37,5% typical Tunisian because of my low SSA score (if I would assume that Tunisians are generally 15% SSA and Sudaneses are generally 50% SSA, I would have expected something close to 12% SSA when I actuall have near 8,5% SSA) and perhaps my maternal grandmother family are a bit deviating (for some reason) from typical Tunisians?
On FTDNA I have near 50 pages of matches, most of them have British, German, Swedish and other Germanic surnames as well as few Finnic ones, in geni.com I have 4 matches 3 of them Swede and 1 Norwegian and actually the ftdna match I share with it the longest total CM (around 130 CM) has as matches peoples of Swedish surnames (and other Germanic names) with few ones having Finnic surnames.
http://i65.tinypic.com/308jkp4.png
1. Hmm Im not sure about this. But if you have matches mostly from North Europe. You likely have a Northern Euro progenitor. Yes it is likely he might have some minor African admix which I found it to be a bit strange (Most North Euros don't have any SSA admix).
2. Not sure about this. Maybe because there is a lot of shared ancestry between Euros and ME/NA?
Will find time to answer your 3rd question. From most of your calculator results, you seem to be around 92% West Eurasian and 8% African.
Petalpusher
09-01-2016, 05:53 AM
Half Tunisian/north Euro and quite north, like N.Dutch minimum. Considering all the Scandinavians cousins, that's more that.
dddcc
09-01-2016, 10:42 AM
(Most North Euros don't have any SSA admix).
I recall reading about some US ''whites'' scoring very minor SSA , so this makes way more probable that my hypothetical paternal progenitor could be American rather than European. (All my 3.rd cousins in FTDNA are American, though I know that US people are overrepresented there)
Maguzanci
09-01-2016, 12:39 PM
I recall reading about some US ''whites'' scoring very minor SSA , so this makes way more probable that my hypothetical paternal progenitor could be American rather than European. (All my 3.rd cousins in FTDNA are American, though I know that US people are overrepresented there)
Very interesting if the progenitor come from the US. But this will led to more wonder like why does he decide to come faraway to Tunisia? Also if he has some minor SSA, likely he come from the South of US where they recently used to keep SSA slaves. I think tha'ts where they get the minor admix from through intermarriage and mixing with the latter.
Btw, have you seen other Tunisian's results with recent foreign ancestry? Also have you seen other Tunisian result with pretty low SSA like your results?
dddcc
09-01-2016, 01:05 PM
Sadly I'm aware of the results of only another Tunisian who scores around 50% SSA.
There are something like a hundred Tunisians in the FTDNA database but sadly all of them seem interested mainly on the Y-DNA test.
dddcc
09-01-2016, 01:11 PM
I just googled about Tunisian autosomal DNA and found that Tunisians included on the genographic Project get around 19% SSA
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Admixture/TUNISIAN.jpg
dddcc
09-01-2016, 01:26 PM
I just found a treasure:)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303356836_Genetic_variation_in_Tunisia_in_the_cont ext_of_human_diversity_worldwide_NORTH_AFRICA-DISTINCT_GENETIC_REGION
Data were collected by TaqMan on 399 autosomal single nucleotide polymorphisms on
331 individuals from Tunisia and Libya. These data were combined with data on the same SNPs previously typed
on 2585 individuals from 57 populations from around the world. Where meaningful, close by SNPs were combined
into multiallelic haplotypes. Data were evaluated by clustering, principal components, and population tree analyses.
For a subset of 102 SNPs, data from the literature on seven additional North African populations were included in
analyses.
Results: Average heterozygosity of the North African populations is high relative to our global samples, consistent
with a complex demographic history. The Tunisian and Libyan samples form a discrete cluster in the global and
regional views and can be separated from sub-Sahara, Middle East, and Europe. Within Tunisia the Nebeur and
Smar are outlier groups. Across North Africa, pervasive East-West geographical patterns were not found.
In the historical period, the Tunisian region saw a
great range of invaders, migrants, and colonists that
included Phoenicians, Greeks, Romans, Vandals, Byzan-
tines, Arabs, Spanish, Ottomans, Andalousians, and
French. Most of these groups left some imprint upon the
modern Berbers. However, the most important change in
recent centuries arose from the influx of Arabs and Bed-
ouins leading to the major part of the original population
being converted to Islam and Arabized. The eleventh
century, for instance, was marked by the arrival of about
400,000 Bedouins belonging to Eastern tribes of Beni
Hilal and Beni Souleim (Abdel Waheb, 2004). The arrival
of Morisco Andalousians, expelled from Iberia in the
early 1600s, is considered the second most important
demographic event in Tunisia’s recent history. More
than 80,000 Andalousians settled in the northernmost
part of Tunisia (Abdel Waheb, 1917). During the colonial
period (about 1881-1921), about 116,000 Europeans
(from Italy, Spain, Malta, Greece, Austria, Russia, and
Belgium) were living in Tunisia, about 99,000 of whom
were in the capital, Tunis. In the same time frame, Tuni-
sia was a refuge for people from Morocco, Algeria, and
Libya (Belhedi, 1992; Ben Hamida, 2002).
The southern part of Tunisia’s population is geneti-
cally similar to the Libyan population since the two
areas contain the same tribes. The Libyan population is
primarily of Berber origin; the name is taken from a par-
ticular Berber tribe—the “Libou” which means free man.
More than 20% of the population speaks an Amazigh
language.
Even with such a rich and complex demographic his-
tory the human populations living north of the Sahara
desert in Africa have received little attention in pub-
lished population genetics studies. More specifically,
numerous studies targeting particular genes, especially
those suspected to be of clinical interest, have accumu-
lated in the scientific literature on particular North Afri-
can populations, but as yet few studies of North African
populations incorporating large sets of DNA polymor-
phisms exist
However, PCA analyses limited to North Africa
and also North Africa with some SW Asian groups as
outliers (Supporting Information Figs. S18–S21) reveal
that even within the relatively small zone represented
by Tunisia the local populations are different from one
another
A reasonable ancient settlement scenario for North
Africa–based on various studies with different types of
markers could be proposed as follows. Berbers arose from
ancient events across North Africa with various sub-
regional differences. The autosomal SNPs analyzed here
are not able to give a clear picture of what those pre-
historic events were. The Berbers constitute the main
genetic background of the North African population as a
whole even though in historical times several substantial
migrations occurred into the region from Middle Eastern
populations and elsewhere. Migrations during the histori-
cal period enriched the North African populations rather
than replaced them.
Maguzanci
09-01-2016, 01:28 PM
Sadly I'm aware of the results of only another Tunisian who scores around 50% SSA.
There are something like a hundred Tunisians in the FTDNA database but sadly all of them seem interested mainly on the Y-DNA test.
Hmm that's unfortunate.
I know another North African member who also score different from other NA results I have seen. He is not Tunisian however but a Riffian Berber from Morocco. If I remember he likely has some minor EHG/ANE around 1-2% which most North Africans don't have. Also he is like only 9-10% SSA based on a few calculators.
He also told of another Riffian girl who score even less SSA than him like only around 6-7% SSA. I ask him if he can ask her if she can share some gedmatch results.
Unfortunately he's been inactive since the database crash.
Hmm I wonder where those geneticists collect Tunisian samples and then gets the average result being around 15% SSA.
dddcc
09-01-2016, 10:02 PM
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303356836_Genetic_variation_in_Tunisia_in_the_cont ext_of_human_diversity_worldwide_NORTH_AFRICA-DISTINCT_GENETIC_REGION
Their figure resolution is frustratingly low but I spotted some outliers amongst the tested Tunisian individuals (there are around 10 Tunisians scoring about 25% of ''European'' pink component and 4 Tunisians scoring nearly 50% of ''Westasian'' yellow component)
http://i66.tinypic.com/8yc6ww.png
Petalpusher
09-01-2016, 10:25 PM
You are not an outlier in Tunisia, the reason is simple you score significant ANE, it can only come from an European parent since there was never ANE nor Steppe input in North Africa, it's at best anecdotic cause it was through a little embedded in the CHG and anyway most of the time close to 0. You could have lower to much lower SSA, probably a few outliers do, but they wouldn't score ANE and steppe related components, they would score basal eurasian type of components instead. Nobody in N.Africa has 3th to 5th cousins from Northern Europe either, this is a way too recent connexion.
You are not an outlier in Tunisia, the reason is simple you score significant ANE, it can only come from an European parent since there was never ANE nor Steppe input in North Africa, it's at best anecdotic cause it was through a little embedded in the CHG and anyway most of the time close to 0. You could have lower to much lower SSA, probably a few outliers do, but they wouldn't score ANE and steppe related components, they would score basal eurasian type of components instead. Nobody in N.Africa has 3th to 5th cousins from Northern Europe either, this is a way too recent connexion.
dna trolls :laugh:
Maguzanci
09-01-2016, 11:07 PM
You are not an outlier in Tunisia, the reason is simple you score significant ANE, it can only come from an European parent since there was never ANE nor Steppe input in North Africa, it's at best anecdotic cause it was through a little embedded in the CHG and anyway most of the time close to 0. You could have lower to much lower SSA, probably a few outliers do, but they wouldn't score ANE and steppe related components, they would score basal eurasian type of components instead. Nobody in N.Africa has 3th to 5th cousins from Northern Europe either, this is a way too recent connexion.
Thank you very much for the explanation!! Is it possible for some one from Maghreb to have relative matches from West or South/Central Asia like Turkey, Iraq, Iran or Afghanistan?
Petalpusher
09-01-2016, 11:11 PM
Thank you very much for the explanation!! Is it possible for some one from Maghreb to have relative matches from West or South/Central Asia like Turkey, Iraq, Iran or Afghanistan?
Not much more likely i would say. Maybe Turkey and Levant.
Maguzanci
09-01-2016, 11:18 PM
Not much more likely i would say. Maybe Turkey and Levant.
I see. I read from a thread in anthrogenica where another Maghrebi member said he know a couple from a town in Tunisia who score around 20% West Asian and even had an Assyrian match. So I think if there is more samples done in the future, there might be more outliers seen.
What do you think is the lowest SSA a Maghrebi can score?
Maguzanci
09-01-2016, 11:21 PM
Their figure resolution is frustratingly low but I spotted some outliers amongst the tested Tunisian individuals (there are around 10 Tunisians scoring about 25% of ''European'' pink component and 4 Tunisians scoring nearly 50% of ''Westasian'' yellow component)
http://i66.tinypic.com/8yc6ww.png
Which abbreviations are the Tunisian samples?
Maguzanci
09-01-2016, 11:24 PM
Based on most of your gedmatch results, it seems you are predominantly West Eurasian being around 92~93% West Eurasian and 7~8% SSA.
But you might have a lot of Basal Eurasian from your predominantly West Eurasian ancestry. Most modern day West Eurasians are a mix of ancient West Eurasians+Basal Eurasians.
dddcc
09-01-2016, 11:37 PM
You are not an outlier in Tunisia, the reason is simple you score significant ANE, it can only come from an European parent since there was never ANE nor Steppe input in North Africa, it's at best anecdotic cause it was through a little embedded in the CHG and anyway most of the time close to 0. You could have lower to much lower SSA, probably a few outliers do, but they wouldn't score ANE and steppe related components, they would score basal eurasian type of components instead. Nobody in N.Africa has 3th to 5th cousins from Northern Europe either, this is a way too recent connexion.
Thank you for enlightening answer but I think I did not express my thought very well (being lame at English)
I already understood and was convinced since the first days after the disclosure of my results that my paternal progenitor is very likely European.
However what I was wondering was could my maternal side (especially my maternal grand-mother side) be a bit deviating from the Tunisian mean to account for my below-expected SSA score.
After taking a look at the figure I posted I realized that there was some Tunisian outliers there (scoring less SSA or-and more Euro or-and more West-Asian) and so possibly the family of my maternal grand-mother could be an ''outlier Tunisian'' like the individuals I spotted in the admixture graph (and that could be to some Turkish or Moor or European slave-renegade or maybe even Sephardi admixture)
The wife of my great maternal grand-father is from the island of Kerkennah and in the admixture figure I posted there was some outlier individuals from Kerkena (abbreviated to KRK in the graphe) with above-average West-Asian or above-average Euro score.
But the most interesting thing is that the individuals from Kerkena as a whole score less SSA at K=6 (corresponds to the orange color in the graphe) than the other tested Tunisian groups so it is plausible that my Sudanese maternal great grandfather has his to-be-passed (to his son) SSA score highly lowered by his marriying of that grandma from the island of Kerkena.
dddcc
09-01-2016, 11:42 PM
Which abbreviations are the Tunisian samples?
NEB, KSR, KRN, SOU, MHD, KRK AND SMR
Petalpusher
09-01-2016, 11:42 PM
Thank you for enlightening answer but I think I did not express my thought very well (being lame at English)
I already understood and was convinced since the first days after the disclosure of my results that my paternal progenitor is very likely European.
However what I was wondering was could my maternal side (especially my maternal grand-mother side) be a bit deviating from the Tunisian mean to account for my below-expected SSA score.
After taking a look at the figure I posted I realized that there was some Tunisian outliers there (scoring less SSA or-and more Euro or-and more West-Asian) and so possibly the family of my maternal grand-mother could be an ''outlier Tunisian'' like the individuals I spotted in the admixture graph (and that could be to some Turkish or Moor or European slave-renegade or maybe even Sephardi admixture)
The wife of my great maternal grand-father is from the island of Kerkennah and in the admixture figure I posted there was some outlier individuals from Kerkena (abbreviated to krk in the graphe) with above-average West-Asian or above-average Euro score.
But the most interesting thing is that the individuals from Kerkena as a whole score way less SSA than the other tested Tunisian groups so it is plausible that my Sudanese maternal great grandfather has his to-be-passed (to his son) SSA score highly lowered by his marriying of that grandma from the island of Kerkena.
You can see it like this, it's proportionnal, the more possibly outlying towards Europe your Tunisian side is, the least Northern euro your European is, but looking at your SSA level it's more likely your Tunisian side is rather close to the average, as it was just splitted in half.
Also works with the ANE, on K7 you get 9% while the average for Tunisians is 0,9%. So you theorically inherited 8,5% by your European parent and 0,5% from your Tunisian side, which puts your Euro side at 17% ANE, it's Scandinavian territory or really northernmost UK-Dutch/German, etc.. plenty of south euro have less ANE (and WHG) than you have.
dddcc
09-01-2016, 11:48 PM
I see. I read from a thread in anthrogenica where another Maghrebi member said he know a couple from a town in Tunisia who score around 20% West Asian and even had an Assyrian match. So I think if there is more samples done in the future, there might be more outliers seen.
What do you think is the lowest SSA a Maghrebi can score?
Yes I read that post and the guy in question is from Mahdia which is abbreviated as MHD in the admixture graphe
http://i67.tinypic.com/wbz5o9.png
Maguzanci
09-02-2016, 01:25 AM
Yes I read that post and the guy in question is from Mahdia which is abbreviated as MHD in the admixture graphe
http://i67.tinypic.com/wbz5o9.png
I see. Can you ask Ignis to post the gedmatch results for the couple from Mahdia? I want to see their results compared to the average Tunisian and other Maghrebi.
Maguzanci
09-02-2016, 02:24 AM
NEB, KSR, KRN, SOU, MHD, KRK AND SMR
Thanks. Does the study have any excel spreadsheet where you can see each individual results on the K run?
Would be interesting to see their 23andme, McDonald and Gedmatch results especially the outliers with substantial European, West Asian or low SSA admix.
dddcc
09-09-2016, 09:13 PM
MY CLOSEST ORACLE RESULTS (ONLY ORACLES WITHOUT ANCIENT POPULATIONS INCLUDED AND WITH GENETIC DISTANCE <3 AND WERE KEPT)
1 Jew_France + Moroccan + CEU + Ukrainian-Center @ 0.927030 MDLP World
1 50% Icelandic +25% Libyan_Jew +25% Tunisian @ 2.518153 MDLP K23b
1 Algerian + BedouinA + British + Norwegian_West @ 2.072077 MDLP K23b
1 50% German-North +25% Jew_Italia +25% Moroccan @ 1.626955 MDLP World-22
1 Ashkenazim_V + Bulgarian + Moroccan + Swedish_V @ 1.338454 MDLP World-22
1 CEU + Morocco_Jews + Swedish + Sahara_OCC @ 1.618438 DODECAD V3
1 Orcadian + Moroccans + Morocco_Jews + Orkney @ 0.786353 DODECAD WORLD 9
1 Egyptans + Irish + Lithuanians + Moroccan @ 1.245447 DODECAD K7B
1 Algerian + British_Isles + Egyptans + Norwegian @ 2.582850 DODECAD K12B
1 morocco-jew + orcadian + saharawi + ukranian @ 1.484872 HARAPPA
1 Scottish_West + Ukrainian + Tunisian + Egyptian @ 1.474127 puntDNAL K10 Ancient
1 50% Dutch_North +25% Egyptian +25% Tunisian @ 1.878823 puntDNAL K12 Modern
1 BedouinA + German_North + Scottish_West + Tunisian @ 1.355784 puntDNAL K12 Modern
1 Belarusian + Austrian + Ashkenazy_Jew + Mozabite_Berber @ 2.520722 puntDNAL K15
1 Maltese + Russian + Spanish + Yemen @ 2.900741 GEDROSIA Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF
1 50% BedouinA +50% Georgian_Jew @ 0.254189 Gedrosia K3
1 50% Armenian +25% Saudi +25% Yemen @ 0.000000 Gedrosia K3
1 French_South + Norwegian + Turkish + Yemen @ 2.734444 Gedrosia K11
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