Protests against Roma expulsions held in France

[hajduk]

Demonstrators march through Paris to the sound of Roma music and drums

Thousands of people have attended rallies in Paris and 130 other French towns to protest at the government's policy of deporting Roma people.

Police say turnout across France was slightly more than 77,000 while organisers put the figure nearer 100,000.

With polls suggesting at least 65% of French people back the policy, the government played down the protests.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11186592

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[hajduk]

judging by the photos France will become Brazil in a short time

just to remind Adolf Hitler wrote that France was attempting to become the first African colony of Europe.

[Monolith]

Liberte, egalite, fraternite? Those crazy French.. :D

[Vasconcelos]

I wish Portuguese politicians had the will power to do the same thing.

[Crossbow]

I suggest all protesters show their benevolence and each one of them adopt a Roma.:D

[antonio]

I suggest all protesters show their benevolence and each one of them adopt a Roma.:D


I doubt so: the Non-African part of the protesters divides itself in three clear groups: there're fools, there're plain hipocrites, and a rest which just don't want to turn Nazified by empirical evidence, so they will keep on the pleasure of labeling so others.:D

Pd. I know Leftists adopting Racist stands just by living on multiculturalized areas: they opened their mind to know other cultures...and don't like them. :D

[Eldritch]

EU citizens can move to other countries within the EU, provided they can support themselves.

If not, they have to leave the country. Is that really so hard to understand? Apparently so.

Unless, of course, these protesters think France shouldn't follow EU laws, or leave the EU or something. :rolleyes:

[San Galgano]

judging by the photos France will become Brazil in a short time

Judging by the pics many of the demonstrators are the next ones who will have their asses kicked out of France soon too.

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[Vasconcelos]

Funny how a worker's union was at the protesters rally.

CGT - Confédération Générale du Travail

[Falkata]

Funny how a worker's union was at the protesters rally.

CGT - Confédération Générale du Travail

Indeed, specially considering that I´ve never seen a gypsy working

[Monolith]

EU citizens can move to other countries within the EU, provided they can support themselves.

If not, they have to leave the country. Is that really so hard to understand? Apparently so.

Unless, of course, these protesters think France shouldn't follow EU laws, or leave the EU or something. :rolleyes:
No need to give credibility to the EU. It think it's more than enough to say that France is the home of the French, so it is up to them to decide whether they want foreigners in their country or not. :)

[Austin]

I doubt so: the Non-African part of the protesters divides itself in three clear groups: there're fools, there're plain hipocrites, and a rest which just don't want to turn Nazified by empirical evidence, so they will keep on the pleasure of labeling so others.:D

Pd. I know Leftists adopting Racist stands just by living on multiculturalized areas: they opened their mind to know other cultures...and don't like them. :D

Hah yes it is absolutely splendid when some leftist European moves to a ghetto area to "enlighten" themselves then screams with horror the next day when their beloved green-friendly car is stolen by their neighbors. I guess that is how you turn a lefty in a sense give em a dose of reality.

[Crossbow]

I doubt so: the Non-African part of the protesters divides itself in three clear groups: there're fools, there're plain hipocrites, and a rest which just don't want to turn Nazified by empirical evidence, so they will keep on the pleasure of labeling so others.:D

Pd. I know Leftists adopting Racist stands just by living on multiculturalized areas: they opened their mind to know other cultures...and don't like them. :D

Yes, indeed, there are Leftists who have changed their opinion about multiculturalism and immigration, and their enthusiasm has suffered a considerable blow. At least that´s more sincere, not keep looking the other way, but to draw your conclusions. There are differences in perception though: a number of them have kept (more or less) their leftist idealism, on the other hand some have turned completely racist. Sometimes because they have been robbed and beaten by immigrant youngsters themselves, an ultimate 'live' experience of everyday's reality in places were many immigrants dwell.



Hah yes it is absolutely splendid when some leftist European moves to a ghetto area to "enlighten" themselves then screams with horror the next day when their beloved green-friendly car is stolen by their neighbors. I guess that is how you turn a lefty in a sense give em a dose of reality.

True, but not all of them. I've known people who were born and bred in these ghettos, before they changed beyond recognition. Exactly the old workers districts were subject to a great influx of immigrants. White people of the working class who have stayed there (although in small numbers) have always possessed some kind of social awareness and a sense of solidarity, with commitment to their own streets and district as a whole. They stayed loyal to their socialist principles.
However,today many of them are not so keen on multiculturalism anymore. It is hard to maintain such a position when you have to put five locks on your door, and to see that they've broken another car window the night before. And we shouldn't forget of course, that the major part of the white working class population has moved elsewhere many, many years ago.
But without doubt you were mainly referring to the group of highly educated academics.

[Eldritch]

Hah yes it is absolutely splendid when some leftist European moves to a ghetto area to "enlighten" themselves then screams with horror the next day when their beloved green-friendly car is stolen by their neighbors. I guess that is how you turn a lefty in a sense give em a dose of reality.

Feast your eyes on this (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article465486.ece) unforgettable classic.

[Austin]

Yes, indeed, there are Leftists who have changed their opinion about multiculturalism and immigration, and their enthusiasm has suffered a considerable blow. At least that´s more sincere, not keep looking the other way, but to draw your conclusions. There are differences in perception though: a number of them have kept (more or less) their leftist idealism, on the other hand some have turned completely racist. Sometimes because they have been robbed and beaten by immigrant youngsters themselves, an ultimate 'live' experience of everyday's reality in places were many immigrants dwell.




True, but not all of them. I've known people who were born and bred in these ghettos, before they changed beyond recognition. Exactly the old workers districts were subject to a great influx of immigrants. White people of the working class who have stayed there (although in small numbers) have always possessed some kind of social awareness and a sense of solidarity, with commitment to their own streets and district as a whole. They stayed loyal to their socialist principles.
However,today many of them are not so keen on multiculturalism anymore. It is hard to maintain such a position when you have to put five locks on your door, and to see that they've broken another car window the night before. And we shouldn't forget of course, that the major part of the white working class population has moved elsewhere many, many years ago.
But without doubt you were mainly referring to the group of highly educated academics.

Also has to do with the fact that working class whites are unable to compete with aliens. Mexican aliens work 5$ an hour and will work all day every day except on Sunday (pope worship day).

[Monolith]

Mexican aliens work 5$ an hour and will work all day every day except on Sunday (pope worship day).
Dictionary entry for 'Sunday':



noun
the day of the week before Monday and following Saturday, observed by Christians as a day of rest and religious worship and (together with Saturday) forming part of the weekend

[Austin]

Dictionary entry for 'Sunday':

Oh but my friend not with these people, you can't fathom the levels of debauchery....roasting goats out in the front yard (and not feeling awkward doing it).....blaring Tejano music all the while with a beer in one hand thanks to welfare check and a baby in the other....every Sunday that is the entire south-side of my city....none of whom speak a word of English

[Osweo]

Feast your eyes on this (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article465486.ece) unforgettable classic.
Oh my.......

Heh, and see this;

I told her I had to leave, that I wasn’t being a drama queen but if I stayed I would have a nervous breakdown, that my kids were so nervous I was thinking of crushing up valerian root, a natural sedative, into their cornflakes, that my husband’s joke — to wave his arms grandly at all the litter and abandoned cars and hoodlums and say to my son, “Some day, my son, all this will be yours” — just wasn’t funny any more.
Right at the bottom of the article. And it's the first time that we hear of the FATHER playing any sort of part whatsoever. Quite significant. A useless inert waste of space of a man, who allows his idiot wife to put their kids through an insane sociological experiment, who makes no move whatsoever while the family is being terrorised in its own home and neighbourhood... I often wonder to myself - where are our MEN, who should be standing up against all this shite? :mad:


Also has to do with the fact that working class whites are unable to compete with aliens.
An old problem. The same was true two hundred years ago whereby English workers were unable to compete with Irish here. All down to traitor big business.

[antonio]

Indeed, specially considering that I´ve never seen a gypsy working

I once had a problem with a Spanish gipsy (a serious one, minors I suffered more:D) but nowadays I accept their presence among us: they are part of the landscape from almost 500 years ago, they evolved folklore into Flamenco music, they're (at distance) funny and picturesque people, they're traditional ones(although they're changing fast and what's worse, heavily intermixing) , etc...but, Romanian gipsies, sorry, no, their acceptance or not is not our issue but a Romanian people one.

[antonio]

You're talking about Leftists evolving (indeed a true evolution) into Racists. I think the degree (from a mere dissidence of that issue to flamboyant Neonazism) it's clearly related with the degree of the punctual offense or the cronical situation. But, unfortunatelly, there's another relevant factor to take into account: a friend of mine once show me a video of a French youth progressive man being attacked by a Negroid bunch. I mailed him back telling about the well-deserved kicks he received and betting on his conversion to the common sense stands about all that shit...and he told me that victim reafirmed on his convictions. For me this is tragical for Europe: how can things would be reverted in a patriotic and racial-oriented way if even a severe beating session of his body it's unable to provoque an intelligent response of the mind of that intelligent but brain-washed French educated man? It's beyond my comprehension.

Ps. Maybe some of you knows more about this case.

[Bari]

The only Europeans that speak against "discrimination" of gypsies are the ones that haven't had the pleasure of living close to them or encounter them regularly. Reminds me of when Madonna spoke against discrimination in Romania. She should have adopted a Roma family to show her tolerance being still intact after her house is looted in a matter of a month or so. I think even the most hardcore multiculturalist would have a hard time remaining political correct in their constant presence. But its easy to draw innocent conclusions from the smiling musicians or scrawny beggars downtown. Even the most open-minded person would have to rethink any ideal perceptions of them as a people, once they grow in numbers and become a part of your every-day life.

I've met quite a few of them both in the Balkans and in the West, and i have yet to meet a decent gypsie. However i have made friendly and decent encounters with various other non-Europeans, but remarkably the most alienated individuals are the gypsies, despite their long history on the European continent, are on average less integrated and uptated about their (various)host nation than any other immigrant group. House gypsies, in which there are a few of, that has assimilated into European culture, are not the ones i am thinking of. They do excist, but are in no way representing the average gypsie.

There is not way to make them assimilate or even remotely integrate into any society besides their own. As for people mentioning gypsies are individuals too and all that. No, mostly they are not. At least not the ones from the Balkans and other parts of Eastern Europe as well. Mostly they belong to a clan/extended family, and are in no position to take their leave. Family and their own way of living matters more to them than whatever people around them value or might think about them/what is best for them. As for gypsies trying their own way, it doesn't end happily either in most cases, and its not because of the intolerance of the society or general peer..

[Daos]

Thousands of people have attended rallies in Paris and 130 other French towns to protest at the government's policy of deporting Roma people.

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[antonio]

Someone watch the fucking whore in charge of EU Justice Department menacing Republique Francaise government as if she were talking to a skinheads crowd? It was really bizarre. If I were Sarkozy I would subsidy gipsies the double for refuging in Louxembourg (homeland of the UE comissionate) till that little state collapse, instead of returning Romenia, what she could argue against it? It would be also all about (as she formerly argued against France) free circulation of UE citizens.

Ps. And what the fuck is waiting France and Germany to make force to remove this clown from her chair?

[InvaderNat]

Just a noisy minority it seems, the majority of French support the move. Plus when you factor out the 15% non-European population the support for the move among actual French people is even higher.:thumbs up

Not that I'd ever trust that little Ompa-Loompa sized scumbag Sarkozy, he's just trying a few half-arsed moves to gain public support and stop the FN's resurgence - something that will be greatly helped if/when Maire Le Pen takes over.

[Osweo]

Perhaps there are members of the 'French' Third World population who don't like the Gypsies either??? Or are most of them all too happy to find another way to undermine and discomfort the ethnic French?

[Lábaru]

The problem is that if there is so much noise to expel a few hundred Roma, I suppose the idea to expel millions of Muslims and other immigrants will be unthinkable :(

[Eldritch]

The problem is that if there is so much noise to expel a few hundred Roma, I suppose the idea to expel millions of Muslims and other immigrants will be unthinkable :(

Not really. The same people will make the same amount of noise whether it's one person in question or a hundred thousand.

[Lábaru]

Not really. The same people will make the same amount of noise whether it's one person in question or a hundred thousand.

Probably, but at the same time the masses of people conform the same with the expulsion of hundreds of Roma/gypsys, when what they really want is the expulsion of millions of immigrants parasites, but this useless and controversial "act" seems to leave them satisfied.