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dddcc
09-05-2016, 08:15 AM
According to Lazaridis 2016, Proto-Indo-Europeans (Yamnaya culture) emerged by way of an admixture between Iranian Neolithic and the Eastern/Western European Hunters-Gatherers (as well as a slight input of Levant Neolithic)
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D9jJHv6IHoQ/V3o-JCjdeEI/AAAAAAAAFHI/bSbm1WvnHp8lKO9B6I_76xwJfJaOeYu3QCKgB/s1600/Here.png
Interestingly those populations appear very close to each other wich implies that they were descended from an older common ancestral population (which perhaps spoke Pre-Proto-Indo-European)
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5-URy6M5-Nk/V28Tv8HAgrI/AAAAAAAADXo/MBtLyUj5f3QUaPwq66RJz9tLlCJMKaDwACLcB/s1600/genetic-distances.png

In order to determine your Indo-European score you may add up your CHG_EEF+SHG_WHG+EHG+IRAN_NEOLITHIC scores on the Gedmatch Gedrosia Near East Neolithic K13 calculator.

Petalpusher
09-05-2016, 09:38 AM
In order to determine your Indo-European score you may add up your CHG_EEF+SHG_WHG+EHG+IRAN_NEOLITHIC scores on the Gedmatch Gedrosia Near East Neolithic K13 calculator.

Adding all this won't give you a good approximation of a Yamnaya input, otherwise most people in Europe would be 70% Yamnaya. It's closer to an EHG x2.

For what it's worth, i get 29,92% (14,96x2) in K13.

catgeorge
09-05-2016, 09:42 AM
Yamnaya are Satems.. Satems belongs to Iranic, Indic like Sanskrit, Slavic, Albanian etc.

Centums dont have much Yamnayas at all and shows through the language

Rugevit
09-05-2016, 09:51 AM
In order to determine your Indo-European score you may add up your CHG_EEF+SHG_WHG+EHG+IRAN_NEOLITHIC scores on the Gedmatch Gedrosia Near East Neolithic K13 calculator.

87.45%

Danishmend
09-05-2016, 10:25 AM
+ SSA.

SSA was also part of Yamnaya. Actually all components are Yamnaya-related so I think everyone is 100% Yamnaya.

Rethel
09-05-2016, 10:29 AM
100% - R1.

You should ask about Yamana's admixture.

Ülev
09-05-2016, 10:31 AM
100% - R1.

You should ask about Yamana's admixture.

:picard2:

dddcc
09-05-2016, 11:13 AM
For me CHG_EEF+SHG_WHG+EHG+IRAN_NEOLITHIC=31.47+10.05+11. 73+7.61=61,13%

Norka
09-05-2016, 11:17 AM
200% Oriental Aryan.

Rugevit
09-05-2016, 11:22 AM
100% - R1.

You should ask about Yamana's admixture.

Earliest R1a are found in Mesolithic Karelia and Zhizhitskaya of later neolithic on border of Belarus and Russia. On the other hand Yamanya has been test for R1b only. We should embrace our Uralic heritage. :thumb001:

Ülev
09-05-2016, 11:26 AM
Earliest R1a are found in Mesolithic Karelia and Zhizhitskaya of later neolithic on border of Belarus and Russia. On the other hand Yamanya has been test for R1b only. We should embrace our Uralic heritage. :thumb001:


Here it is:

Dominant Y-DNA by region at the onset of the Neolithization of Europe:

Region: dominant "indigeneous" Y-DNA haplogroups

1. Western and Central Europe: I2a, I1, I2c, C1a2
2. European part of Russia: R1a, R1b, Q1a
3. Caucasus region (Georgia): J1b, J2a
4. Western Asia*: G2, E1, J2, R2, T, G1, H2, L1, F3

*Samples from Anatolia, from the Levant and from Iran.

The most mysterious - due to their scarcity in aDNA so far - are J1 and N1c.

We have J1b in a hunter-gatherer from Georgia, but then there is a long "gap" and the next relevant sample - J1a dated to 2500-1950 BC - is from the Levant (Ain Ghazal, Early Bronze Age). When it comes to N1c the oldest sample in Europe, dated to 2500 BC, is from the region of Smolensk.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?187714-The-quot-Big-Picture-quot-of-Y-DNA-distribution-ca-8000-5000-BC

Rugevit
09-05-2016, 11:32 AM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?187714-The-quot-Big-Picture-quot-of-Y-DNA-distribution-ca-8000-5000-BC

M2783 is a marker under N1c1 mutated around 2,500 years ago. Modern day carriers live in Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, north-western Russia. Few in Poland. Populations that have significant amount of M2783 seem to score the highest early IE admixture in many tests. There's a strong, positive correlation between N1c1-M2783 and genome of early IE. ;)

Enflamme
09-05-2016, 11:37 AM
68,29%

Results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 40.02
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 21.64
3 EHG 12.55
4 SHG_WHG 11.56
5 NATUFIAN 7.17
6 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 4.16
7 SE_ASIAN 2.79
8 SUB_SAHARAN 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.98
2 Romanian 6.11
3 French 8.19
4 Albanian 9.04
5 Croatian 9.17
6 Hungarian 11.44
7 Greek 12.01
8 English 14.21
9 Czech 14.91
10 Scottish 15.44
11 Sicilian 15.94
12 Italian_South 16.64
13 Ukrainian 16.65
14 Jew_Ashkenazi 18.2
15 Norwegian 18.24
16 Icelandic 18.38
17 Europe_LNBA 21.59
18 Russian 21.72
19 Sardinian 22.6
20 Finnish 22.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.8% Romanian + 8.2% Europe_MNChL @ 3.36
2 93.2% Romanian + 6.8% Europe_EN @ 3.54
3 94.2% Romanian + 5.8% Anatolia_N @ 3.71
4 90.5% Croatian + 9.5% Anatolia_N @ 3.81
5 89.7% Romanian + 10.3% Stuttgart @ 3.93
6 89.3% Croatian + 10.7% Europe_EN @ 3.93
7 53.2% French + 46.8% Albanian @ 3.97
8 86.3% Croatian + 13.7% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.01
9 79.3% Hungarian + 20.7% Stuttgart @ 4.16
10 88% French + 12% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.16
11 83.3% Croatian + 16.7% Stuttgart @ 4.17
12 83.5% Romanian + 16.5% Sardinian @ 4.26
13 88.2% Hungarian + 11.8% Anatolia_N @ 4.39
14 68.9% French + 31.1% Sicilian @ 4.41
15 87.6% Croatian + 12.4% Europe_MNChL @ 4.47
16 92.8% Romanian + 7.2% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.61
17 62.2% French + 37.8% Greek @ 4.65
18 86.8% Hungarian + 13.2% Europe_EN @ 4.69
19 79.1% French + 20.9% Jew_Moroccan @ 4.83
20 81.6% French + 18.4% Cypriot @ 4.88

firemonkey
09-05-2016, 08:08 PM
76.92%

Pahli
09-05-2016, 08:13 PM
63,48%

And 50% of it is EHG ofc.

Rugevit
09-05-2016, 08:30 PM
I suspect Scandinavians, Finns, Balts, Belarusians, north-western Russians will score the highest. Any people who are sincere let us know if you have the score above 85%.

SSlava
09-06-2016, 09:02 AM
M2783 is a marker under N1c1 mutated around 2,500 years ago. Modern day carriers live in Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, north-western Russia. Few in Poland. Populations that have significant amount of M2783 seem to score the highest early IE admixture in many tests. There's a strong, positive correlation between N1c1-M2783 and genome of early IE. ;)

N1c1 have brought from east Asia. has no relation to PIE.
By the way, just according to Verenich, the Belarusian geneticist, at ancestors of Belarusians the Siberian impurity has appeared 2500 years ago.

Rugevit
09-07-2016, 12:26 AM
N1c1 have brought from east Asia. has no relation to PIE.
By the way, just according to Verenich, the Belarusian geneticist, at ancestors of Belarusians the Siberian impurity has appeared 2500 years ago.
! All haplogroupes brought in Europe from Asia. Perhaps I is native to Europe. Although it's related to J and was probably spread from Anatholia. Vadim Verenich lives in Estonia , who is a professional linguist. Population genetics is his hobby.

Myanthropologies
09-07-2016, 12:40 AM
I suspect Scandinavians, Finns, Balts, Belarusians, north-western Russians will score the highest. Any people who are sincere let us know if you have the score above 85%.

If Yamnaya was halfway between Iranian Neotholic and Eastern Europe hunter gatherers, Eastern Iranics (Pamiris, Pashtuns, Tajiks, etc), and Eastern Europeans like the ones you mentioned should score the highest.

However Yamnaya culture was huge, and some parts of it should have been closer to eastern europeans and Northern Europeans like Swedes, Lithuanians, etc as well. Western Yamnaya could have been the origin of r1b.

Rugevit
09-07-2016, 12:55 AM
If Yamnaya was halfway between Iranian Neotholic and Eastern Europe hunter gatherers, Eastern Iranics (Pamiris, Pashtuns, Tajiks, etc), and Eastern Europeans like the ones you mentioned should score the highest.

However Yamnaya culture was huge, and some parts of it should have been closer to eastern europeans and Northern Europeans like Swedes, Lithuanians, etc as well. Western Yamnaya could have been the origin of r1b.

Ancient Iranic such as people of Sintashta (southern Ural) are genetically different to modern day Iranic people. Ancient Iranic of Sintashta are geneticall most similar to eastern and northern Europeans. See the PCA plot below based on Eurogenes K7 run. Two Iranic of Sintashta are genetically similar to me and Swedes.

We don't know anything about genetic profiles of western Yamnya people. We can only speculate about their genetic profiles

http://s22.postimg.org/d97x6iehd/PCA12.png

Myanthropologies
09-07-2016, 01:01 AM
Ancient Iranic such as people of Sintashta (southern Ural) are genetically different to modern day Iranic people. Ancient Iranic of Sintashta are geneticall most similar to eastern and northern Europeans. See the PCA plot below based on Eurogenes K7 run. Two Iranic of Sintashta are genetically similar to me and Swedes.

We don't know anything about genetic profiles of western Yamnya people. We can only speculate about their genetic profiles

http://s22.postimg.org/d97x6iehd/PCA12.png

Well yeah, modern day iranics are mostly kavkazian genetically. But both Sintashta and Yamnaya were genetically diverse, with some being closer to eastern iranics, and some being very very very close to eastern and Northern Europeans. I have read somewhere that western Yamnaya was probably the origin of r1b, and to me, that makes a lot of sense. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Phenotypically Yamnaya definitely looked like you guys though. Genetically they seem mostly eastern European leaning as well.

Rugevit
09-07-2016, 01:09 AM
I have read somewhere that western Yamnaya was probably the origin of r1b, and to me, that makes a lot of sense. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Yamnaya was a large culture spanning from Ural to modern day western Ukraine to northern Caucasus. Most likely it was diverse genetically. We only have genetic profiles of people living near present day Samara, which is just north-east of Caspian sea. This is eastern part of Yamanya archaeological culture.



Phenotypically Yamnaya definitely looked like you guys though. Genetically they seem mostly eastern European leaning as well.

Genetically, eastern Yamnaya people are most similar to present day Europeans.

Myanthropologies
09-07-2016, 01:15 AM
Yamnaya was a large culture spanning from Ural to modern day western Ukraine to northern Caucasus. Most likely it was diverse genetically. We only have genetic profiles of people living near present day Samara, which is just north-east of Caspian sea. This is eastern part of Yamanya archaeological culture.



Genetically, eastern Yamnaya people are most similar to present day Europeans.

Ahh, thank you!

SSlava
09-07-2016, 08:20 AM
! All haplogroupes brought in Europe from Asia. Perhaps I is native to Europe. Although it's related to J and was probably spread from Anatholia. Vadim Verenich lives in Estonia , who is a professional linguist. Population genetics is his hobby.
Yes, any data which don't correspond to your lie become at once from "fans"))
You consider a lie even data of scientists which won't be coordinated with your lies))

SSlava
09-07-2016, 08:25 AM
;)

SSlava
09-07-2016, 08:40 AM
Adding all this won't give you a good approximation of a Yamnaya input, otherwise most people in Europe would be 70% Yamnaya. It's closer to an EHG x2.

For what it's worth, i get 29,92% (14,96x2) in K13.

Yes, something is not right to expect.

Pahli
09-07-2016, 09:05 AM
Well yeah, modern day iranics are mostly kavkazian genetically. But both Sintashta and Yamnaya were genetically diverse, with some being closer to eastern iranics, and some being very very very close to eastern and Northern Europeans. I have read somewhere that western Yamnaya was probably the origin of r1b, and to me, that makes a lot of sense. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Phenotypically Yamnaya definitely looked like you guys though. Genetically they seem mostly eastern European leaning as well.

Sintashta MDLP World 22:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 58.24
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 19.97
3 West-Asian 9.67
4 North-European-Mesolithic 6.13
5 Indo-Iranian 2.71
6 Paleo-Siberian 1.44
7 North-Siberean 0.98
8 Sub-Saharian 0.76
9 Mesoamerican 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_V (derived) 7.12
2 Ukrainian-Center (derived) 7.44
3 Ukrainian-West (derived) 7.52
4 Mordovian_V (derived) 7.88
5 Slovakian (derived) 8.64
6 Latvian_V (derived) 8.7
7 German (derived) 9.54
8 Croatian_V (derived) 9.7
9 Czech (derived) 9.79
10 Sorb (derived) 9.81
11 Ukrainian-East (derived) 10.08
12 Russian_V (derived) 10.15
13 Belarusian_V (derived) 10.17
14 Mordovian (derived) 10.34
15 Russian_cossack (derived) 10.55
16 Russian_South (derived) 10.67
17 Polish_V (derived) 10.93
18 Ukrainian (derived) 11.16
19 Slovenian (derived) 11.29
20 German-North (derived) 11.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.3% Ukrainian_V (derived) + 5.7% Bra2 (derived) @ 4.83
2 93.9% Ukrainian-Center (derived) + 6.1% Bra2 (derived) @ 4.87
3 95.1% Ukrainian_V (derived) + 4.9% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 4.89
4 86.3% Sorb (derived) + 13.7% Lak (derived) @ 4.92
5 85.9% Sorb (derived) + 14.1% Tabassaran (derived) @ 4.94
6 94.5% Ukrainian_V (derived) + 5.5% Bra1 (derived) @ 4.95
7 93.7% Ukrainian_V (derived) + 6.3% Saami (derived) @ 4.98
8 94.2% Ukrainian-Center (derived) + 5.8% Bra1 (derived) @ 5.01
9 94.9% Ukrainian-Center (derived) + 5.1% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 5.03
10 86.4% Sorb (derived) + 13.6% Avar (derived) @ 5.09
11 93.4% Ukrainian-Center (derived) + 6.6% Saami (derived) @ 5.1
12 86.7% Sorb (derived) + 13.3% Lezgin (derived) @ 5.14
13 87.4% Sorb (derived) + 12.6% Ossetian (derived) @ 5.15
14 94.1% Ukrainian-West (derived) + 5.9% Bra2 (derived) @ 5.2
15 85.2% Sorb (derived) + 14.8% Tadjik (derived) @ 5.2
16 86.5% Sorb (derived) + 13.5% Chechen (derived) @ 5.21
17 94.9% Ukrainian-West (derived) + 5.1% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 5.23
18 93.4% Ukrainian-West (derived) + 6.6% Saami (derived) @ 5.25
19 62.7% Latvian_V (derived) + 37.3% Swedish_V (derived) @ 5.29
20 85.6% Belarusian_V (derived) + 14.4% Tabassaran (derived) @ 5.29

There was an Eastern Yamnaya individual with significant CHG input, again results with MDLP World 22:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 51.67
2 West-Asian 26.25
3 Samoedic 9.83
4 North-European-Mesolithic 5.2
5 Indo-Iranian 4
6 Indian 1.91
7 Sub-Saharian 0.59
8 Mesoamerican 0.46
9 Arctic-Amerind 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tartar_Mishar (derived) 19.94
2 Tatar (derived) 21.34
3 Komi (derived) 21.46
4 Chuvash (derived) 21.59
5 Tatar_Kryashen (derived) 22.57
6 Mordovian (derived) 23.74
7 Latvian_V (derived) 23.91
8 Mordovian_V (derived) 26.05
9 Tatar_Lithuania (derived) 26.34
10 Russian_North (derived) 26.79
11 Moldavian (derived) 27.3
12 Udmurd (derived) 27.55
13 Ukrainian_V (derived) 27.75
14 Ukrainian-Center (derived) 28.02
15 Mari (derived) 28.02
16 Ukrainian-West (derived) 28.62
17 Russian_V (derived) 28.62
18 Ukrainian-East (derived) 28.81
19 Russian_South (derived) 28.9
20 Ukrainian (derived) 29.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.1% Tadjik (derived) + 40.9% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 8.69
2 78.9% Mordovian (derived) + 21.1% West-Asian (ancestral) @ 11.14
3 54.8% Lak (derived) + 45.2% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 11.21
4 56% Tabassaran (derived) + 44% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 11.26
5 52.9% Pashtun (derived) + 47.1% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 11.39
6 76.4% Russian_North (derived) + 23.6% West-Asian (ancestral) @ 11.4
7 54.1% Lezgin (derived) + 45.9% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 11.67
8 55.7% Avar (derived) + 44.3% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 11.7
9 51.8% Tadjik (derived) + 48.2% Lithuanian (derived) @ 11.9
10 50.9% Tadjik (derived) + 49.1% Latvian (derived) @ 12.1
11 81.7% Komi (derived) + 18.3% West-Asian (ancestral) @ 12.28
12 71.6% Estonian (derived) + 28.4% West-Asian (ancestral) @ 12.29
13 76.4% Moldavian (derived) + 23.6% West-Asian (ancestral) @ 12.58
14 65.2% Mordovian (derived) + 34.8% Avar (derived) @ 12.73
15 53.6% Chechen (derived) + 46.4% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 12.73
16 51.8% North-East-European (ancestral) + 48.2% Brahui (derived) @ 12.87
17 53% Latvian (derived) + 47% Avar (derived) @ 12.89
18 51% Estonian (derived) + 49% Tadjik (derived) @ 12.9
19 54.9% Estonian (derived) + 45.1% Avar (derived) @ 12.95
20 51.3% North-East-European (ancestral) + 48.7% Makrani (derived) @ 12.97

This sample can be put up as an North East Euro + some Kavkaz, none the less the increased CHG will obviously make it a bit closer to East Iranian speaking Tajiks than the average Proto-Indo-Iranian would do, however it is still dominantly North East Euro.

Petalpusher
09-07-2016, 10:22 AM
Yes, something is not right to expect.

Some calculators tried to estimated it like K14 (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?177693-Post-your-Eurasian-K14)/K20 (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?178981-Post-your-Eurasia-K20) ("Steppe" and "Yamnaya" components). As the input originaly comes from EMBA to MLBA, also some west and east cultures, it's difficult to pin it down precisely. ANE x2 could probably work too but considering ANE was already there in the mesolithic before Yamnaya it's always gonna be difficult to differentiate it. Gokhem MN and Danemark LN for example already had some EHG/ANE because their farmers mixed with SHG (who had a little ANE).

For sure nobody is 80-90% steppe like adding all this could suggest, it's at best 40-50%.


Best proof this calculation doesn't work, Sardinians score:

36,20% CHG_EEF
11% SHG_WHG


They have little to no IE at all, they are nowhere close to 50%. Haak et al. estimated it at 5% or something and it's probably not even directly the Steppe but some CHG alone.

Danishmend
09-07-2016, 11:17 AM
Yamnaya was 50% EHG, which means it cannot be modelled as a mixture of modern populations who barely score above 10%. Is it really THAT difficult to understand?

This thread is hilarious. You cannot estimate the Yamnaya/Indo-European input by combining all these components.

Wrong
09-07-2016, 11:44 AM
Agre with poster above.

Idiotic thread. Delete?

dddcc
09-07-2016, 12:09 PM
Yamnaya was 50% EHG, which means it cannot be modelled as a mixture of modern populations who barely score above 10%. Is it really THAT difficult to understand?

This thread is hilarious. You cannot estimate the Yamnaya/Indo-European input by combining all these components.
This thread is about Indo-European score not Yamnaya score.
Yamnaya did not appear ex nihilo and do descend from earlier pre-proto-indo-european speaking cultures associated with populations rich in EHG-SHG-WHG that gradually supplanted supposedly Basque-like languages speaking Neolithic Europeans.
The keyword is that the genetic distance between EHG-SHG-WHG and CHG are very small and that means that they all descend from the same common ancient preproto-indoeuropean speaking population; rich in R1a and R1b Y-DNA.

Rethel
09-07-2016, 12:32 PM
This thread is about Indo-European score not Yamnaya score

But it is hard to called such mishmash "indoeuropean".

PIE society was based on patrilinearity, not race.
Main population was based on Corded types plus
uralian, baltid and med minority types plus on the
borders some amerindian, alpine and mongoloidic
types with additional caucasian female's appendix.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
09-07-2016, 12:57 PM
CHG_EEF 14.55
SHG_WHG 5.22
EHG 4.98
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 4.81

=30.56

noricum
09-07-2016, 04:07 PM
78.58%

1 CHG_EEF 44.53
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 14.76
3 SHG_WHG 14.60
4 EHG 14.47
5 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 4.98
6 NATUFIAN 3.97
7 SIBERIAN 1.29

Henbane
09-07-2016, 11:04 PM
79.87%

1 CHG_EEF 43.74
2 EHG 19.33
3 SHG_WHG 15.06
4 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 12.53
5 NATUFIAN 4.74
6 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.78
7 KARITIANA 1.52
8 POLAR 1.17
9 PAPUAN 0.13

War Chef
09-07-2016, 11:14 PM
73.5%

Dick
09-07-2016, 11:14 PM
74.23%

FunkyWanderer
09-08-2016, 12:36 AM
72.5%



Near East Neolithic K13 Oracle results:

gedrosia K13 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 39.11
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 16.48
3 SHG_WHG 14.73
4 EHG 13.87
5 NATUFIAN 7.64
6 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 4.79
7 POLAR 1.26
8 PAPUAN 1.14
9 KARITIANA 0.63
10 SUB_SAHARAN 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.43
2 French 7.01
3 Bulgarian 7.32
4 Croatian 7.4
5 Hungarian 8.31
6 English 11.28

ALL
09-08-2016, 12:36 AM
Earliest R1a are found in Mesolithic Karelia and Zhizhitskaya of later neolithic on border of Belarus and Russia. On the other hand Yamanya has been test for R1b only. We should embrace our Uralic heritage. :thumb001:
Not so fast my Belarusian friend, you score higher than me 87.45%, but not my R1b-Z2103 ancestor from Kalmykia Temerta IV:lightbul:
My score from Silesia-R1b-Z2103
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 42.04
2 SHG_WHG 17.5
3 EHG 17.39
4 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 12.07
5 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 5.06
6 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 3.27
7 NATUFIAN 1.43
8 SIBERIAN 1.2
9 POLAR 0.05

81.99%


My paternal ancestor R1b-Z2103 Kalmykia
Kit F999968
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 EHG 91.64
2 CHG_EEF 6.82
3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.03
4 SHG_WHG 0.41
5 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 0.09

91.64%

Rugevit
09-08-2016, 12:42 AM
My paternal ancestor R1b-Z2103 Kalmykia
Kit F999968
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 EHG 91.64
2 CHG_EEF 6.82
3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.03
4 SHG_WHG 0.41
5 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 0.09

91.64%

Can you find the score for a sample from north-eastern Poland next to Lithuania? I don't know the kit number.

CrazyDaisy
09-08-2016, 01:03 AM
I'm 41.29%. Don't know if that's a high or low score.


# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 29.82
2 KARITIANA 22.28
3 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 11.31
4 EHG 10
5 SHG_WHG 8.44
6 NATUFIAN 7.85
7 POLAR 4.3
8 PAPUAN 2.64
9 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.47
10 SUB_SAHARAN 1.09
11 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.79
12 SIBERIAN 0.01

Mortimer
09-08-2016, 01:09 AM
Adding up CHG.EEF, Iran Neolitic, SHG.WHG + EHG results in 62.17% for me

Dick
09-08-2016, 01:28 AM
I'm 41.29%. Don't know if that's a high or low score.


# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 29.82
2 KARITIANA 22.28
3 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 11.31
4 EHG 10
5 SHG_WHG 8.44
6 NATUFIAN 7.85
7 POLAR 4.3
8 PAPUAN 2.64
9 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.47
10 SUB_SAHARAN 1.09
11 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.79
12 SIBERIAN 0.01

It's low. Iberians get similar to Mortimer's %

Albannach
09-08-2016, 07:49 PM
81.21%

SE_ASIAN -
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 10.74
CHG_EEF 45.59
POLAR -
EHG 20.45
SUB_SAHARAN 0.16
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 0.73
KARITIANA 0.45
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN -
NATUFIAN 5.16
SIBERIAN 1.92
PAPUAN 0.36
SHG_WHG 14.44

Geni
09-08-2016, 07:55 PM
1 CHG_EEF 34.68
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 23.94
3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 11.59
4 NATUFIAN 10.15
5 EHG 9.07
6 SHG_WHG 8.5
7 SE_ASIAN 1.12
-----------------------------------
=-+64%

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-08-2016, 08:00 PM
Adding all this won't give you a good approximation of a Yamnaya input, otherwise most people in Europe would be 70% Yamnaya. It's closer to an EHG x2.

For what it's worth, i get 29,92% (14,96x2) in K13.

Using your approach, I am 80.19% Indo-European.

Rethel
09-08-2016, 08:29 PM
Using your approach, I am 80.19% Indo-European.

I can assure you, you are 100%. :)

aDNA doesn't matter.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-08-2016, 08:30 PM
I can assure you, you are 100%. :)

aDNA doesn't matter.

because my y-dna? :D

Rethel
09-08-2016, 08:45 PM
because my y-dna? :D

Mostly yes, but for you as a woman couple of things matter also. So even more than 100% :p

Ülev
09-08-2016, 08:48 PM
and I pronounce you - Rethel and wife

Petalpusher
09-08-2016, 09:25 PM
Using your approach, I am 80.19% Indo-European.

I doubt you score 40% EHG or 40% ANE. Well, im sure. Something like 40% Yamnaya sounds absolutely right for you though.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-09-2016, 01:34 AM
I doubt you score 40% EHG or 40% ANE. Well, im sure. Something like 40% Yamnaya sounds absolutely right for you though.

Do you mean times my EHG by two? Is that it?

If I do that, I get 35.46

Rugevit
09-09-2016, 06:41 AM
It looks like north-eastern Europeans will win the contest. With northern and north-western Europeans are coming close.

de Burgh II
09-10-2016, 04:03 PM
76.89%

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 41.22
2 EHG 18.71
3 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 14.96
4 SHG_WHG 14.93
5 NATUFIAN 5.31
6 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 2.84
7 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 2.03


Finished reading population data. 145 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 French @ 6.624410
2 Hungarian @ 6.930437
3 English @ 8.075872
4 Croatian @ 8.116320
5 Scottish @ 9.132557
6 Czech @ 9.402596
7 Ukrainian @ 9.851547
8 Romanian @ 9.858695
9 Norwegian @ 11.599702
10 Icelandic @ 11.786374
11 Bulgarian @ 12.001298
12 Russian @ 14.418820
13 Finnish @ 15.380706
14 Europe_LNBA @ 16.432690
15 Estonian @ 16.778385
16 Lithuanian @ 17.865452
17 Albanian @ 17.868183
18 Greek @ 20.244768
19 Sicilian @ 24.301233
20 Italian_South @ 24.909313

Dick
09-10-2016, 04:03 PM
Rofl Rethel picked 90-99%

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
09-10-2016, 04:27 PM
I'm 41.29%. Don't know if that's a high or low score.


Its about half of your Euro Ancestry or slightly higher. Its just low compared to a full Euro


Still might be considered a low ratio though. you are about 78 - 72 percent Euro and 40 percent is IE

Rethel
09-10-2016, 04:54 PM
Rofl Rethel picked 90-99%

There was not 100% unfortunatly, so I had to lower my score :)