Slavs, Balts, Germanic, Celts, Finno-Ugric, Basques, Greek.

[Rugevit]

This is a trolling discussion.

Who are a most European among us? In my opinion everyone from aforementioned group is as European as one can get. But! Genetically Balts and Baltic Finns (Estonians, Finns) are most European despite the later speak peculiar languages.


An Australian guy of Polish descent David Weselowski wrote about our genetic 'Europeaness' once. I think he was right. http://bga101.blogspot.com/2012/04/so-whos-most-european-of-us-all.html

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So who's the most (indigenous) European of us all?


Lithuanians 77%
Finns 74%
Belorussians 70%
Swedes 69%
Norwegians 68%
Kargopol Russians 68%
Russians 68%
Poles 68%
Erzya 66%
Ukrainians 66%
Moksha 66%
Orcadians 63%
HapMap Utah Americans (CEU) 63%
Irish 63%
British 62%

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Discuss?

[Norka]

Turkics

[Rugevit]

Turkics

Prove it.

[UkrainianGirl]

Me. :lol:

[Dick]

An Australian guy of Polish descent David Weselowski wrote about our genetic 'Europeaness' once. I think he was right. http://bga101.blogspot.com/2012/04/so-whos-most-european-of-us-all.html

Discuss?
Rofl. Davidski, the inventor of eurogenes calc on gedmatch, is like Rethel. He always claimed that only a Slavonic speaking male that's R1a can be a real Slav. Pollack stronk.

[Rugevit]

Me. :lol:

Despite I like you very much I have to say you are not. Genetically, Ukrainians are not as IE as Belarusians. This quite easy to show.

[Crn Volk]

Subscribed

[Norka]

Prove it.

Turkic are true Europeans my blood is 25% troo euro. Deal with it ChernaRussian

[Rugevit]

Rofl. Davidski, the inventor of eurogenes calc on gedmatch, is like Rethel. He always claimed that only a Slavonic speaking male that's R1a can be a real Slav. Pollack stronk.

He may stated silly things. Nobody is perfect. Overall, he is a cool guy who made significant contribution to population genetics.

[Rugevit]

R1 Turkic haplogroup.

R1 predates Turkic and Indo-Europeans.

[UkrainianGirl]

Despite I like you very much I have to say you are not. Genetically, Ukrainians are not as IE as Belarusians. This quite easy to show.

I wasn't actually trying to prove anything. I was focusing on the word "trolling" you wrote lol

[Dick]

He may stated silly things. Nobody is perfect. Overall, he is a cool guy who made significant contribution to population genetics.

R U R1a. Let's see ur result slavyanski

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Lithuanians

[Rugevit]

I wasn't actually trying to prove anything. I was focusing on the word "trolling" you wrote lol

I am also focusing on the word trolling. I like trolling Ukrainians. :)

[Norka]

R1 predates Turkic and Indo-Europeans.

No no. I'm most euro here Turkic blood=more euro than Chernarussian

[Rugevit]

R U R1a. Let's see ur result slavyanski

I am a Slav. I posted my genetic profile on 3 forums so many times.. I don't think anyone can question my Slavicness and Europeaness except myself.

[Rugevit]

No no. I'm most euro here Turkic blood=more euro than Chernarussian

I know about Turkic more than 99% of people on this forum. They are cool guys. But R1 is not Turkic.

[Dick]

No no. I'm most euro here Turkic blood=more euro than Chernarussian

Davidski and the other Belarusian Vadim have agendas. Dont take their gedmatch calcs seriously. Poles and Belarussians probably have as much Tatar as you.

[Norka]

I am a Slav. I posted my genetic profile on 3 forums so many times.. I don't think anyone can question my Slavicness and Europeaness except myself.

I'm troo Slav you are fake.

[Dick]

I am a Slav. I posted my genetic profile on 3 forums so many times.. I don't think anyone can question my Slavicness and Europeaness except myself.

So you're E-v13.

[Norka]

Davidski and the other Belarusian Vadim have agendas. Dont take their gedmatch calcs seriously. Poles and Belarussians probably have as much Tatar as you.

Yeah but I'm the OG euro tatar Rugevit is just jealous he not troo euro like me.

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Turkics and Native Americans are brothers

about the thread: Balts and Finns

[Rugevit]

Davidski and the other Belarusian Vadim have agendas. Dont take their gedmatch calcs seriously. Poles and Belarussians probably have as much Tatar as you.

David has agenda. Vadim doesn't have any agendas. Vadim is not a professional genetic scientist. He is a professional linguist from the very well known university of USSR in Tartu (best Estonian university today).

He got involved in genetics because he has known Szlachta ancestry from Pinsk region, southern Belarus.

[UkrainianGirl]

I am also focusing on the word trolling. I like trolling Ukrainians. :)

It's ok with me. I get bored on here sometimes. A little trolling can be entertaining lol

[Norka]

Turkics and Native Americans are brothers

about the thread: Balts and Finns

Turkics not brothers with Amerindians and you know it.

[Dick]

David has agenda.

At least you admit that . I like MLDP better anyway

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Turkics not brothers with Amerindians and you know it.

Q is the original haplogroup of Turkics, not R1. and you know it

I don't see the problem be brother of Native Americans

[Rugevit]

Yeah but I'm the OG euro tatar Rugevit is just jealous he not troo euro like me.

Many Slavs call us original Slavs. Lithuanians and Latvians label us their cousins. We know we're Balto-Slavs . Many of use like Turkic too, cause they are cool people.

[Rugevit]

Yeah but I'm the OG euro tatar Rugevit is just jealous he not troo euro like me.

Many Slavs call us original Slavs. Lithuanians and Latvians label us their cousins. We know we're Balto-Slavs . Many of use like Turkic too.

[Norka]

Many Slavs call us original Slavs. Lithuanians and Latvians label us their cousins. We know we're Balto-Slavs . Many of use like Turkic too, cause they are cool people.

Nah Slav shit is not Euro. Slavs are black but wrong colour for some reason. Finno-Turkic ubermensch like me is what the OG euros were.

[Rugevit]

At least you admit that . I like MLDP better anyway

David had agenda on several occasions. Vadim doesn't have any agenda. He is not trying to portray us as ubber Slavs or Balts. He publishes the results as a scientist. He is a no nonsense scholar.

[Rugevit]

Nah Slav shit is not Euro. Slavs are black but wrong colour for some reason. Finno-Turkic ubermensch like me is what the OG euros were.

Slavs are beautiful people, especially women. They are custodians of IE culture. Finno-Turkic such as Chuvashes and Kazan Tatars live on outskirts. They haven't contributed much into European culture.

[Dick]

David had agenda on several occasions. Vadim doesn't have any agenda. He is not trying to portray us as ubber Slavs or Balts. He publishes the results as a scientist. He is a no nonsense scholar.

Ok, Vadim :D

[Rugevit]

Ok, Vadim :D

I mean it.

[Dick]

I mean it.

Make a new calculator

[Rugevit]

Make a new calculator

Calculators are worthless. Anyone can create one. Genomic data means plenty. Vadim collected genomic data from published studies and people who know their ancestries. Mostly , he has data for eastern Europeans.

[Dick]

Calculators are worthless. Anyone can create one. Genomic data means plenty. Vadim collected genomic data from published studies and people who know their ancestries. Mostly , he has data for eastern Europeans.

Knowing your ancestors dosnt mean anything. People committed adultery in the past more than they do now.

[Danaan]

Since it is a trolling discussion.

Lebanese.



But as for Europe, no men have any knowledge whether it is bounded by seas or not, or where it got its name, nor is it clear who gave the name, unless we say that the land took its name from the Tyrian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon)Europa, having been (it would seem) before then nameless like the rest.

But it is plain that this woman was of Asiatic birth, and never came to this land which the Greeks now call Europe, but only from Phoenicia to Crete and from Crete to Lycia. Thus much I have said of these matters, and let it suffice; we will use the names established by custom.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0126%3Abook%3D4% 3Achapter%3D45%3Asection%3D4