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Profileid
09-10-2016, 11:06 PM
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Assyrians aligned with central government over Kurdistan

Nebuchadnezzar
09-10-2016, 11:11 PM
Well the Baghdad goverment, have hinted to establish a psuedo-autonomeous small state for them in Ninevah (Mosul), to curb the kurdish land grabing policy.

You see the thing is, there's a region in Ninevah, called "Valley of ninevah" an area populated by a christian Assyrian majority, that area is belived to have a rather large reserve of natural gas under it, and the kurds wants it... under the banner of "Iraqi goverment, cannot protect the christian minority".

Profileid
09-11-2016, 12:25 AM
Well the Baghdad goverment, have hinted to establish a psuedo-autonomeous small state for them in Ninevah (Mosul), to curb the kurdish land grabing policy.

You see the thing is, there's a region in Ninevah, called "Valley of ninevah" an area populated by a christian Assyrian majority, that area is belived to have a rather large reserve of natural gas under it, and the kurds wants it... under the banner of "Iraqi goverment, cannot protect the christian minority".

Yeah, I have heard of that area. Assuming Mosul ever gets liberated, I imagine you will see kurds try to claim it.

wvwvw
09-11-2016, 08:03 AM
Isn't Mosul majority Kurdish?

Halgurd
09-11-2016, 08:27 AM
Isn't Mosul majority Kurdish?

Everything East of the river is Kurdish. Anyway the Assyrians have already aligned themselves with Kurdistan. There is a reason why the Christians fled to Kurdistan instead of other Iraqi gov controlled areas. The Iraqi government has failed them.

Halgurd
09-11-2016, 08:29 AM
It's also interesting how they have funds to establish new military units but are unable to send us 17% of the budget that we are entitled to because apparently "there are no funds"

Profileid
09-11-2016, 11:59 PM
Everything East of the river is Kurdish. Anyway the Assyrians have already aligned themselves with Kurdistan. There is a reason why the Christians fled to Kurdistan instead of other Iraqi gov controlled areas. The Iraqi government has failed them.

They're not aligned with Kurdistan. They simply want to continue living. They couldn't go to areas held by the Iraqi government because they would have to go through ISIS land

Nebuchadnezzar
09-12-2016, 05:07 PM
Everything East of the river is Kurdish. Anyway the Assyrians have already aligned themselves with Kurdistan. There is a reason why the Christians fled to Kurdistan instead of other Iraqi gov controlled areas. The Iraqi government has failed them.


Complete and utter BS, Kurdish peshmerga abandoned their posts in in northern Nienvah and Diyala, just as the iraqi army... mind you the area (Sinjar/shingal) where Ezidis were captured, were under barzani's peshmerga.

So don't blame the iraqi army for this, your precious peshmerga failed aswell.

And I know for a fact that Assyrians didn't allign them selves with the KRG, matter of fact you were the ones who crawled to occupy their territories, since ottoman times, and even before.

Nebuchadnezzar
09-12-2016, 05:08 PM
They're not aligned with Kurdistan. They simply want to continue living. They couldn't go to areas held by the Iraqi government because they would have to go through ISIS land

Exactly, it would be suicidal in terms of logistics for them to go down, since all major routes to baghdad were cut by ISIS at the time !

Pahli
09-12-2016, 05:09 PM
Complete and utter BS, Kurdish peshmerga abandoned their posts in in northern Nienvah and Diyala, just as the iraqi army... mind you the area (Sinjar/shingal) where Ezidis were captured, were under barzani's peshmerga.

So don't blame the iraqi army for this, your precious peshmerga failed aswell.

And I know for a fact that Assyrians didn't allign them selves with the KRG, matter of fact you were the ones who crawled to occupy their territories, since ottoman times, and even before.

And yet the real victims here are Assyrians, followed by Kurds during Saddam's era. I don't see any point in holding Mosul and the Mosul region. Assyrians definitely deserve a state of their own South of Kurdistan.

Halgurd
09-12-2016, 05:13 PM
Complete and utter BS, Kurdish peshmerga abandoned their posts in in northern Nienvah and Diyala, just as the iraqi army... mind you the area (Sinjar/shingal) where Ezidis were captured, were under barzani's peshmerga.

So don't blame the iraqi army for this, your precious peshmerga failed aswell.

And I know for a fact that Assyrians didn't allign them selves with the KRG, matter of fact you were the ones who crawled to occupy their territories, since ottoman times, and even before.

Yea peshmerga failed in protecting Yazidis, I do not know why this is relevant here? Yazidis are Kurds and so their loyalties are to Kurdistan. I am not mocking the Iraqi army, but saying that Assyrians have aligned themselves with Iraqi gov is pretty ridiculous.

And of course, you bring up the Ottoman era because your arguments are invalid.

Nebuchadnezzar
09-12-2016, 05:14 PM
And yet the real victims here are Assyrians, followed by Kurds during Saddam's era. I don't see any point in holding Mosul and the Mosul region. Assyrians definitely deserve a state of their own South of Kurdistan.

JUST LOL @ These stupideneous and rather misinformed remark about Kurds suffering "The most" under Saddam's era, if it's a numbers came, the shiites (Both arabs & non arabs (Turkmen/Feyli Kurds/Shabak) would take the largest prize in terms of sheer casualities during Saddam's regime, followed by kurds and other ethnic minorities.

However Kurdistan or should I perhaps call it Barzanistan, have stated that they would be against such a plan, as it would foil the expansionist strategy of Mr.Brazani.

Nebuchadnezzar
09-12-2016, 05:18 PM
Yea peshmerga failed in protecting Yazidis, I do not know why this is relevant here? Yazidis are Kurds and so their loyalties are to Kurdistan. I am not mocking the Iraqi army, but saying that Assyrians have aligned themselves with Iraqi gov is pretty ridiculous.

And of course, you bring up the Ottoman era because your arguments are invalid.

I'm not going to defend the Iraqi gov, given how incompetent it is.

I do however still hold firm by that Assyrians have no interest to allign themselves with "Kurdistan", the only reason why so many assyrians found themselves fleeing to "Kurdistan" is solely based on a geographic advantage.

Not to mention, that the Iraqi gov is the one promising the assyrians an autonemous region, and not KRG.

Halgurd
09-12-2016, 05:18 PM
Exactly, it would be suicidal in terms of logistics for them to go down, since all major routes to baghdad were cut by ISIS at the time !

It is possible for them to go to Iraqi gov controlled areas now. But they do not. Ever wondered why? Because they get free housing and electricity, services and necessities which are not always available to Kurds. And importantly they get security. Mosques were converted into homes for these Christians. Yeh I've seen Kurds living in the streets in shitty conditions while outsiders are given priority in my hometown of Erbil.

Even the Sunni Arabs choose to stay, but that is more understandable to me.

Nebuchadnezzar
09-12-2016, 05:25 PM
It is possible for them to go to Iraqi gov controlled areas now. But they do not. Ever wondered why? Because they get free housing and electricity, services and necessities which are not always available to Kurds. And importantly they get security. Mosques were converted into homes for these Christians. Yeh I've seen Kurds living in the streets in shitty conditions while outsiders are given priority in my hometown of Erbil.

Even the Sunni Arabs choose to stay, but that is more understandable to me.

PR stunt, much like the one Erdogan tries to pull in Syria, using these displaced refugees as a leverage in future conflicts, to put pressure on the UN & Western countries, and aswell to occupy the gas-rich valley of ninevah region which is Assyrian.

Kurdistan is not a democracy, it's a nationalist state runned by 1 family (The barzanis) much like the US-backed arab monarchies.

Profileid
09-12-2016, 05:43 PM
On the NPU as a force against ISIS:

NPU fighters from the NPU Khazir Base attacked ISIS and penetrated Badanah, liberating the village from ISIS.

Morale among the NPU is very high.

NPU Colonel Abbush -"We are starting our offensive in Bakhdida, and we wil take it back!"

Soon, Bakhdida, Bartella and Karamles will be liberated by the NPU.
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adsız
09-12-2016, 06:17 PM
Kurds already changed demographic structure of many places where the kurds were minority in Iraq and Syria after declaring autonomy in N. Iraq and invading N. Syria by forcibly evicting Arabs and Turkmens from seized areas and demolishing the houses, villages Arabs used to live in, and even destroying the .civil registry

They also kill civilians.In many cases, the civilians fled kurdish peshmarga and go to ISIS controlled areas to survive.

N. Syria was also "almost" gifted to them by The USA who supported the opposition rebels against Assad so that the legal government forces were unable to protect their own land from Kurdish invasion.

Arabs, Turkmens and Assyrians, everyone non-kurd have to get united and fight kurdish terrorists in The ME, save their land. I heard most of Arab fighters already left kurdish YPG controlled SDF and joined FSA.

The land kurds claim right have never been kurdish in the history.

Question is; How much do Arabs love their homeland? Enough to die for?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/23/peshmerga-war-crimes-ethnic-cleansing-islamic-state-iraq/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/18/syrian-kurds-accused-of-ethnic-cleansing-and-killing-opponents/