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Profileid
09-13-2016, 01:14 AM
BY CHIGOZIE OBIOMA

Extremely interesting article written by a black African. I don't agree with everything he says, but it's nice to hear from a fresh perspective.

In the wake of fresh deaths at the hands of police officers in the world’s greatest nation, we, the people of the black race, are once again the object of renewed worldwide attention.

Questions of injustice in the United States have been duly raised and protested. And, once again, the black cultural elites in America have seized various platforms to air their grievances and are mostly — and rightly — talking about racism, discrimination, racial profiling, and hate, among other issues. But one issue that has hardly been talked about is the core reason why black people have remained synonymous with the denigrating experience of racism. It is, I dare say, because of the worldwide indignity of the black race.

Racism is not limited to the Unites States. There is no nonblack nation, even among the most liberal ones, where the black man is dignified. History dealt us an unforgiving blow in the incursion of foreigners into black lands. The Arabs enslaved tribes and nations and then colonized and evangelized them. Then came the Europeans, who, persuaded the Africans were of an inferior race, divided up the continent over lunch in Berlin in 1884. They carted off a large population of its people — sometimes leaving entire villages almost empty — and brought those who remained on the continent under their rule. So complete was the transformation that no black nation retained its ancestral nationhood, national language, or national identity. And today we often hear of how China or India or some other nation is “taking over” Africa economically. There is almost no nation whose majority is of a different race that has not spat on the face of the black person, at one time or the other.

Be assured, the indignity will continue. Black elites and activists across the world have adopted a culture of verbal tyranny in which they shut down any effort to reason or criticize us or black-majority nations by labeling such attempts as “racism” or “hate speech.” Thus, one can be certain that any suggestions that our race may indeed need to do something to remedy our situation will not be aired — not by the terrified people of other races. And anyone within our race who makes such a suggestion will be deemed weak and pandering or a sellout, as U.S. President Barack Obama has been repeatedly called.
Thus, no one will talk about the painful fact that most African and Caribbean nations have either failed or are about to collapse.

Early African-American intellectuals and cultural elites saw that the future of their race could not be advanced by endless protests or marches of “equality” or “justice.” It could only be done through the restoration of the trampled dignity of the black man. Great men like Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois, and Malcolm X all knew that a people is only respected when it has a nation worthy of respect. A man who lives in a shack cannot expect to be treated with respect at a palace. They knew that for us to reclaim power we must first reclaim dignity and that this comes through the construction of a solid black state with a demonstrable level of development and prosperity — and which can stand as a powerful advocate for the global black.

Today, no such state exists.

Nigeria, the most populous black nation on Earth, is on the brink of collapse. The machineries that make a nation exist, let alone succeed, have all eroded. One might argue that the nation’s creation by self-seeking white imperialists engendered its failure from the beginning, as I did in my recent novel. But this is only a part of the cause. A culture of incompetence, endemic corruption, dignified ineptitude, and, chief among all, destructive selfishness and greed has played a major role in its unravelling. The same, sadly, can be said for most other African nations. States like Zimbabwe, Cameroon, and Equatorial Guinea are farcical democracies ruled by men who exclusively cater to their interests and those of their clipped circles.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/08/09/there-are-no-successful-black-nations-africa-diginty-racism-pan-africanism/

sql
09-13-2016, 01:15 AM
Botswana seems nice.

LieDetector
09-13-2016, 01:16 AM
As soon as I read the first sentence I stopped reading.

Profileid
09-13-2016, 01:16 AM
Botswana seems nice.

Yeah, I thought it was a bit extreme for him to say there are no successful black nations. Maybe not on par with Europe or the US,but there are bright spots.

zhaoyun
09-13-2016, 01:18 AM
He makes sense. Black people should stop asking for acceptance and work on improving their own communities.

There are a couple Black nations that are on the prosperous side though.

Dick
09-13-2016, 01:20 AM
There are a couple Black nations that are on the prosperous side though.

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA DOSNT COUNT

JanPulja
09-13-2016, 01:22 AM
This article is not "extremely interesting". It is merely a restatement of facts well known. Negro countries are failures is not news.

Profileid
09-13-2016, 01:22 AM
He makes sense. Black people should stop asking for acceptance and work on improving their own communities.

There are a couple Black nations that are on the prosperous side though.

What I admire about his approach is that its multifaceted. He blames foreign colonialism and racism for the state of blacks but also liberalism and blacks for not getting their shit together.

zhaoyun
09-13-2016, 01:22 AM
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA DOSNT COUNT

Nah, that's one of the fucked up ones.

Profileid
09-13-2016, 01:23 AM
This article is not "extremely interesting". It is merely a restatement of facts well known. Negro countries are failures is not news.

Maybe you should consider actually reading it.

Jehan
09-18-2016, 11:53 AM
Yeah, I thought it was a bit extreme for him to say there are no successful black nations. Maybe not on par with Europe or the US,but there are bright spots.




There are a couple Black nations that are on the prosperous side though.



Which black nations are you thinking about?

Ouistreham
09-18-2016, 12:37 PM
"There Are No Successful Black Nations"

Inherently.

Any community needs a certain share of people with an IQ above 100 to prove functional.
The higher the % of lame, dumb and idiotic individuals, the higher the risk of a collective failure.

Antimage
09-18-2016, 12:58 PM
I don't mind them in the current state, but their birthrates are worrying imo.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 01:06 PM
Yeah, I thought it was a bit extreme for him to say there are no successful black nations. Maybe not on par with Europe or the US,but there are bright spots.

Botswana, where homosexuality is illegal.

Dema
09-18-2016, 01:07 PM
Somalia is the best !

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 01:11 PM
"There Are No Successful Black Nations"

Inherently.

Any community needs a certain share of people with an IQ above 100 to prove functional.
The higher the % of lame, dumb and idiotic individuals, the higher the risk of a collective failure.

Etain is a lemming. You can give her all the facts and biological realities in the world and she will still not believe it.

This is why we are ultimately going to fail. Dindu nuffins are going to inherit the world, and the whole world will end up like Africa. The only hope might be Eastern Asia but I doubt they will stay homogeneous. Or they might, I don't know. I hope they're smart enough to see what a disaster multiracialism proves to be literally everywhere.

What Etain proposes (multiracialism in our countries) is de-evolution. We would be downgrading, by giving the world to an inherently inferior people. There's all the evidence in the world saying this is true. Multiracialism eventually leads to monoracialism because they breed far more than we do - people of lesser intelligence often do (even the whites that breed the most are dumb rednecks).

Turkminator
09-18-2016, 01:36 PM
I have business relations with Togo since 2 years. They seem to be quite successful. Also the young generation of Africans from Togo attach great importance to education. The worst performers from Africa are from Somalia, according to my experience. The Arab influence of lazing has there established strong.

Myanthropologies
09-18-2016, 01:42 PM
I have business relations with Togo since 2 years. They seem to be quite successful. Also the young generation of Africans from Togo attach great importance to education. The worst performers from Africa are from Somalia, according to my experience. The Arab influence of lazing has there established strong.

Yes exactly. That article is stupid.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 02:41 PM
Yes exactly. That article is stupid.

Are you fucking kidding me?

More idiocy from you..Togo is a shithole. Backwards social-conservatism thrives, lgbts have no rights there (like in every other African country except the ones with significant number of whites) and homosexuality is illegal and punishable by imprisonment.

I generally judge a nation's success by the level of backwards social-conservatism there..all of the countries with vast majority negroids are very socially conservative.

Autrigón
09-18-2016, 03:00 PM
Are you fucking kidding me?

More idiocy from you..Togo is a shithole. Backwards social-conservatism thrives, lgbts have no rights there (like in every other African country except the ones with significant number of whites) and homosexuality is illegal and punishable by imprisonment.

I generally judge a nation's success by the level of backwards social-conservatism there..all of the countries with vast majority negroids are very socially conservative.Some examples
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kuUDviOsBOU/VVSeH32iVxI/AAAAAAAAGMA/PvntrCqkEO0/s1600/gay-marriage-map.jpg

Ouistreham
09-18-2016, 03:52 PM
I have business relations with Togo since 2 years. They seem to be quite successful. Also the young generation of Africans from Togo attach great importance to education. The worst performers from Africa are from Somalia, according to my experience. The Arab influence of lazing has there established strong.

But seriously...

Some former French dominions in West Africa used to fare quite well. A few years ago Ivory Coast was a well organized country, with a surprisingly low level of corruption (to African standards of course). But at some point they had a civil war, they also attacked the French expats who kept the country running, and they are back where they belong, to the Stone Age.

Same for Gabon, a country with shitloads of natural resources, including oil, and a GDP/per capita that used to be just as high as Poland or Croatia! In the past weeks they began to argue about rigged presidential election, another civil war is starting... Soon they'll begin to eat each other.

Togo? Sooner or later...

SSA countries are no-hopers.

Profileid
09-18-2016, 04:10 PM
Etain is a lemming. You can give her all the facts and biological realities in the world and she will still not believe it.

This is why we are ultimately going to fail. Dindu nuffins are going to inherit the world, and the whole world will end up like Africa. The only hope might be Eastern Asia but I doubt they will stay homogeneous. Or they might, I don't know. I hope they're smart enough to see what a disaster multiracialism proves to be literally everywhere.

What Etain proposes (multiracialism in our countries) is de-evolution. We would be downgrading, by giving the world to an inherently inferior people. There's all the evidence in the world saying this is true. Multiracialism eventually leads to monoracialism because they breed far more than we do - people of lesser intelligence often do (even the whites that breed the most are dumb rednecks).

You can fuck off. America has been multiracial since it existed.
If blacks inherit the world,that's just natural selection.

Mens-Sarda
09-18-2016, 08:43 PM
it's unlikely that blacks will ever inherit the world

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

http://gallery.cdn.tiscali.it/repository/1120/650x468/1119223.jpg

http://gallery.cdn.tiscali.it/repository/1119/650x468/1118856.jpg

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 08:52 PM
Some examples
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kuUDviOsBOU/VVSeH32iVxI/AAAAAAAAGMA/PvntrCqkEO0/s1600/gay-marriage-map.jpg

Yep, this proves my point. The more white/inventions per capita countries are always more socially liberal/libertarian. Backwards social conservatism thrives among the lower races. Quite ironic how lots of social liberals like to cuddle up to the lower races, for that reason.

Social conservatism is just really dumb. Only the stupidest people belong to this group. Any social-conservative whites will always be dumb rednecks or Slavs who have had the affect of Communism on them. Slavs probably have the potential to be a great people, with them it is more cultural. With negroids there is simply no hope, they are pre-destined to be Dindu Nuffins because of the average brain size. Any black scientist you can find has a brain size more reminiscent of a European. The majority of them have small heads - the collective of them do, that's why there are no successful black states, the majority of them are, and probably always will be, of lesser intelligence.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 08:55 PM
You can fuck off. America has been multiracial since it existed.
If blacks inherit the world,that's just natural selection.

That's not natural selection. Most whites are cuckolds simply due to brainwashing which no race is immune to. Western media and schools always teach the doctrine of equality. Blacks actually fall for this even more than we do - they are far more susceptible to brainwashing. Look at those fake christian channels were they offer 'miracle water' and shit - all the people they interview are Blacks, the people that say their 'lives were saved' by the miracle water or whatever - lol.

Whites at least aren't this stupid, collectively. Of course media and schooling has a huge impact on the brain. There isn't anything natural about that, honestly.

Wadaad
09-18-2016, 08:56 PM
99% of Black African countries are artificial entities with a mere 'husk' of nationhood. The problems Africa face is in any case completely seperate from the demands of African American and groups like BLM

Fractal
09-18-2016, 08:57 PM
Show me a single Black country that is capable of producing a Nimitz class aircraft carrier powered by two westinghouse nuclear reactors producing 212,000 horsepower like Germanic American people can.

and by the way, not every white group is capable of doing that either.

:rotfl:

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 08:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaFCGx3SIFs

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 09:00 PM
Show me a single Black country that is capable of producing a Nimitz class aircraft carrier powered by two westinghouse nuclear reactors producing 212,000 horsepower like Germanic American people can.

and by the way, not every white group is capable of doing that either.

:rotfl:

are you actually that meme guy? if so get on skype you fucking noob

Fractal
09-18-2016, 09:00 PM
Show me a single Black country that is capable of producing a Nimitz class aircraft carrier powered by two westinghouse nuclear reactors producing 212,000 horsepower like Germanic American people can.

and by the way, not every white group is capable of doing that either.

oops double.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 09:01 PM
99% of Black African countries are artificial entities with a mere 'husk' of nationhood. The problems Africa face is in any case completely seperate from the demands of African American and groups like BLM

They're just fucking dumb.

Wadaad
09-18-2016, 09:03 PM
They're just fucking dumb.

Have you been to Africa? I have and I think the average person here is dumber, atleast lacks more common sense...

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 09:06 PM
Have you been to Africa? I have and I think the average person here is dumber, atleast lacks more common sense...

They just aren't intelligent enough, you need to have a group of people with fairly high IQs to have a successful, functioning nation. They don't have that.

Common sense? Lol. Well, I suppose common sense and intellectual capacity are indeed two different things, no? I guess you can still have common sense while not being able to invent anything of worth. Regardless, I don't think common-sense to you is the same as it is to me.

Wadaad
09-18-2016, 09:09 PM
They just aren't intelligent enough, you need to have a group of people with fairly high IQs to have a successful, functioning nation. They don't have that.

Common sense? Lol. Well, I suppose common sense and intellectual capacity are indeed two different things, no? I guess you can still have common sense while not being able to invent anything of worth. Regardless, I don't think common-sense to you is the same as it is to me.

Ok, how has your superior intelligence contributed to your daily routine to make it superior (however you wanna measure it) compared to a San Hunter Gatherer's daily routine?

zhaoyun
09-18-2016, 09:12 PM
Have you been to Africa? I have and I think the average person here is dumber, atleast lacks more common sense...

I'm hoping to take a trip to Africa next year if I can. Unlike most other people, I don't usually buy luxury items with extra cash, I just spend it on airfare and cheap hostels and learn about shit firsthand.

But anyways, people like to talk about our current stage of history like it's a done deal, like we've done all there is to do. That's pretty stupid. History is far from over, we are just getting started. IMO, the age of Western domination which we all grew up with, is quickly ending, we are heading into a much more multipolar world. And also many parts of Africa, probably with the exception of North and Eastern Africa, had little ties with the large urban civilizations of Eurasia in the past, and thus, did not adopt many of the social innovations which were common then. So at this point of history, I think Africa is just starting to solidify their nation states, and starting to adapt to many of the social and cultural norms of many of the more powerful and advanced nations, so the verdict is still out.

Africa is actually set for a great boom in the next 30-40 years. Countries like Ethiopia are rapidly modernizing. It's not just a bunch of huts like many people here think. Many African countries may start developing large economies and industries of scale in the next few decades. Either way, the verdict is still out. Who knows what the world will look like 300 years from now. I wouldn't be surprised if there were well developed African nations then.

In the year 1000 AD, if someone told you that a country like Germany would be the most culturally and economically advanced in the world, you'd think they were absolutely insane. But most people's minds are too small to comprehend perspectives like that, so they just base their idea of probabilities only on what they see here and now.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 09:14 PM
Ok, how has your superior intelligence contributed to your daily routine to make it superior (however you wanna measure it) compared to a San Hunter Gatherer's daily routine?

I value the technology I have because of white people existing. I don't wanna live in a mud-hut thank you very much. It's not for me - our priorities are different.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 09:16 PM
I'm hoping to take a trip to Africa next year if I can. Unlike most other people, I don't usually buy luxury items with extra cash, I just spend it on airfare and cheap hostels and learn about shit firsthand.

But anyways, people like to talk about our current stage of history like it's a done deal, like we've done all there is to do. That's pretty stupid. History is far from over, we are just getting started. IMO, the age of Western domination which we all grew up with, is quickly ending, we are heading into a much more multipolar world. And also many parts of Africa, probably with the exception of North and Eastern Africa, had little ties with the large urban civilizations of Eurasia in the past, and thus, did not adopt many of the social innovations which were common then. So at this point of history, I think Africa is just starting to solidify their nation states, and starting to adapt to many of the social and cultural norms of many of the more powerful and advanced nations, so the verdict is still out.

Africa is actually set for a great boom in the next 30-40 years. Countries like Ethiopia are rapidly modernizing. It's not just a bunch of huts like many people here think. Many African countries may start developing large economies and industries of scale in the next few decades. Either way, the verdict is still out. Who knows what the world will look like 300 years from now. I wouldn't be surprised if there were well developed African nations then.

In the year 1000 AD, if someone told you that a country like Germany would be the most culturally and economically advanced in the world, you'd think they were absolutely insane. But most people's minds are too small to comprehend perspectives like that, so they just base their idea of probabilities only on what they see here and now.

Of course. It's called evolution.

Africans may have successful nations eventually, but it will take a long time. Or, maybe never because of the climate. In such a climate you really do not need to be intelligent.

zhaoyun
09-18-2016, 09:20 PM
Of course. It's called evolution.

Africans may have successful nations eventually, but it will take a long time. Or, maybe never because of the climate. In such a climate you really do not need to be intelligent.

Societies are evolving all the time. Who knows how Africa will evolve in the next few centuries. A lot of African countries are starting to get their shit together. A lot are still in horrible states. But it is a huge continent with a multitude of cultures and societies, it is not homogeneous. There are some cultures in Africa, like the Kikuyu in Kenya or the Igbo in Nigeria who are extremely entrepreneurial and they have succeeded well abroad wherever they immigrate, entrepreneurialism is a key factor for the advancement of socio-economic wealth in a society.

Even Rwanda, has developed night and day since it's genocide because of good governance under Paul Kagame, who is essentially a dictator, but he is an educated technocrat and has run Rwanda almost like an African Lee Kwan Yew. I wouldnt be surprised if countries like Rwanda become relatively prosperous in the next 20-30 years as long as he is succeeded by leaders of like mind and vision.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqSIIaQ_JHc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op7goG8WhVA

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-18-2016, 09:24 PM
Societies are evolving all the time. Who knows how Africa will evolve in the next few centuries. A lot of African countries are starting to get their shit together. A lot are still in horrible states. But it is a huge continent with a multitude of cultures and societies, it is not homogeneous. There are some cultures in Africa, like the Kikuyu in Kenya or the Igbo in Nigeria who are extremely entrepreneurial and they have succeeded well abroad wherever they immigrate, entrepreneurialism is a key factor for the advancement of socio-economic wealth in a society.

Even Rwanda, has developed night and day since it's genocide because of good governance under Paul Kagame, who is essentially a dictator, but he is an educated technocrat and has run Rwanda almost like an African Lee Kwan Yew. I wouldnt be surprised if countries like Rwanda become relatively prosperous in the next 20-30 years as long as he is succeeded by leaders of like mind and vision.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqSIIaQ_JHc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op7goG8WhVA

Interesting, interesting.

It's hard to say. I'd like to see more civil rights in Africa. I use the backwards soci-conservative o' meter to decide how advanced a society is. Backwards social conservatism pretty much determines how dumb a society is. Look at white rednecks, dumb Slavs the result of Communism, most Negroids, Saudi camel fuckers, etc. etc. all backwards nations of the world, are where socio-conservatism thrives.

Africa is still very much lagging in this area.

If they built those buildings without the help of white people then, I must say I am impressed. I wonder how the sciences thrive, there? I never saw negroids as really scientific.

Wadaad
09-18-2016, 09:26 PM
I'm hoping to take a trip to Africa next year if I can. Unlike most other people, I don't usually buy luxury items with extra cash, I just spend it on airfare and cheap hostels and learn about shit firsthand.

But anyways, people like to talk about our current stage of history like it's a done deal, like we've done all there is to do. That's pretty stupid. History is far from over, we are just getting started. IMO, the age of Western domination which we all grew up with, is quickly ending, we are heading into a much more multipolar world. And also many parts of Africa, probably with the exception of North and Eastern Africa, had little ties with the large urban civilizations of Eurasia in the past, and thus, did not adopt many of the social innovations which were common then. So at this point of history, I think Africa is just starting to solidify their nation states, and starting to adapt to many of the social and cultural norms of many of the more powerful and advanced nations, so the verdict is still out.

Africa is actually set for a great boom in the next 30-40 years. Countries like Ethiopia are rapidly modernizing. It's not just a bunch of huts like many people here think. Many African countries may start developing large economies and industries of scale in the next few decades. Either way, the verdict is still out. Who knows what the world will look like 300 years from now. I wouldn't be surprised if there were well developed African nations then.

In the year 1000 AD, if someone told you that a country like Germany would be the most culturally and economically advanced in the world, you'd think they were absolutely insane. But most people's minds are too small to comprehend perspectives like that, so they just base their idea of probabilities only on what they see here and now.

Not if you talk to people like Xenophobic Prussian...for him  though a German from 1000 AD was not aware of simple concepts like soap and water for bathing, even back then they were superior to places with more advanced socieities that had sophisticated irrigation and horticulture (like Ethiopia) for eg.

zhaoyun
09-18-2016, 09:30 PM
Interesting, interesting.

It's hard to say. I'd like to see more civil rights in Africa. I use the backwards soci-conservative o' meter to decide how advanced a society is. Backwards social conservatism pretty much determines how dumb a society is. Look at white rednecks, dumb Slavs the result of Communism, most Negroids, Saudi camel fuckers, etc. etc. all backwards nations of the world, are where socio-conservatism thrives.

Africa is still very much lagging in this area.

If they built those buildings without the help of white people then, I must say I am impressed. I wonder how the sciences thrive, there? I never saw negroids as really scientific.

True, African countries have lagged behind greatly in recent centuries, but the verdict is still out. Some are starting to get their shit together, like I mentioned. Maybe some will start pouring money into mass education and create a solid science oriented elite, I know that countries like Ethiopia are certainly trying to do that, and I think they will be one of the most successful SSA countries because they have a proud history and strong national identity unlike many others which were basically just colonial after thoughts.

I have been really impressed with Rwanda's president Paul Kagame, he is a technocrat and very different from the typical corrupt tinpot African dictator. He has a strong vision for Rwanda and is implementing it and producing results.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mle2PSUYlsk

Ethiopia is also rapidly developing as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8wa-wSjku4

Newman
09-18-2016, 09:45 PM
Equatorial Guinea is a successful black country, 37th best GDP per capita in the world, ahead of Czechia, Slovenia and Slovakia, even if it's due to its oil production.

alpha
09-18-2016, 09:52 PM
America is a successful black nation

Dandelion
09-18-2016, 10:44 PM
Equatorial Guinea is a successful black country, 37th best GDP per capita in the world, ahead of Czechia, Slovenia and Slovakia, even if it's due to its oil production.

And the only Spanish-speaking country in Africa. ;) Just an unrelated extra note.

Their first president was also a dumbass Afro-centrist who banned 'Western medicine'. A brutal dictator. Ugh.

Insuperable
09-18-2016, 10:59 PM
Yep, this proves my point. The more white/inventions per capita countries are always more socially liberal/libertarian. Backwards social conservatism thrives among the lower races. Quite ironic how lots of social liberals like to cuddle up to the lower races, for that reason.

Social conservatism is just really dumb. Only the stupidest people belong to this group. Any social-conservative whites will always be dumb rednecks or Slavs who have had the affect of Communism on them. Slavs probably have the potential to be a great people, with them it is more cultural. With negroids there is simply no hope, they are pre-destined to be Dindu Nuffins because of the average brain size. Any black scientist you can find has a brain size more reminiscent of a European. The majority of them have small heads - the collective of them do, that's why there are no successful black states, the majority of them are, and probably always will be, of lesser intelligence.


Interesting, interesting.

It's hard to say. I'd like to see more civil rights in Africa. I use the backwards soci-conservative o' meter to decide how advanced a society is. Backwards social conservatism pretty much determines how dumb a society is. Look at white rednecks, dumb Slavs the result of Communism, most Negroids, Saudi camel fuckers, etc. etc. all backwards nations of the world, are where socio-conservatism thrives.

Africa is still very much lagging in this area.

If they built those buildings without the help of white people then, I must say I am impressed. I wonder how the sciences thrive, there? I never saw negroids as really scientific.

Today one can find a correlation between conservatism and backwardness, but conservatism does not lead to backwardness. It just happens that things played out as they played out and we see today what we see. Japanese are a conservative people for example and quite advanced. The western Europeans just 100 years ago were quite traditional and conservative and were still ahead of others. Were they not? But conservatism can be aplied to a lot of things so be more specific.

Fractal
09-18-2016, 11:29 PM
I don't think so, it will happen. They are far too backwards, and the average IQ of a Black African is lower than even Black Americans. (70). Why has Black Africa never produced any nobel prize winning physicists? Or significant inventors or statesmen?

Fractal
09-18-2016, 11:31 PM
FACT #1: The White race has crossed seas, harnessed rivers, carved mountains, tamed deserts, and colonized the most barren icefields. It has been responsible for the invention of the printing press, cement, the harnessing of electricity, flight, rocketry, astronomy, the telescope, space travel, firearms, the transistor, radio, television, the telephone, the lightbulb, photography, motion pictures, the phonograph, the electric battery, the automobile, the steam engine, railroad transportation, the microscope, computers, and millions of other technological miracles. It has discovered countless medical advances, incredible applications, scientific progress, etc. Its members have included such greats as Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Homer, Tacitus, Julius Ceaser, Napoleon, William the Conqueror, Marco Polo, Washington, Jefferson, Hitler, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Magellan, Columbus, Cabot, Edison, GrahamBell, Pasteur, Leeuwenhoek, Mendel, Darwin, Newton, Galileo, Watt, Ford, Luther, Devinci, Poe, Tennyson, and thousands upon thousands of other notable achievers. (37) (39)

FACT #2: Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the Black African Negro has invented nothing. Not a written language, weaved cloth, a calendar, a plow, a road, a bridge, a railway, a ship, a system of measurement, or even the wheel. (Note: This is in reference to the pure-blooded Negro.) He is not known to have ever cultivated a single crop or domesticated a single animal for his own use (although many powerful and docile beasts abounded around him.) His only known means of transporting goods was on the top of his hard burry head. for shelter he never progressed beyond the common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver or muskrat is capable. (21) (39)

(in fact 1, "whites" is mostly Anglos or Germanic that invented all those great things)

Jehan
09-19-2016, 03:59 PM
As other said Equatorial Guinea only develop due to oil and gaz. Their leader seems unable to diversify the economy. And for a small country like this, it's not really an exceptional development if you take in account the natural ressource.

For Rwanda, we should wait and see how they manage the country with the western aids.

Anyway both countries will soon be overpopulate and it will break their development.

Khalil1011
09-25-2016, 05:12 AM
I'm pretty sure Rwanda, or South Africa, and many more are Successful nations.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
09-25-2016, 05:15 AM
Cape verde is actually doing ok
Nigeria is holding up better than the middle east fighting boko haram practically on its own. Most other nations are not doing so well though.

dog_eat_dog
12-08-2016, 08:24 AM
Botswana seems nice.
Not really a black country, whites built it and there are still 3% whites and some other non-black minorities like indians. Seems like quite many blacks there have some white dna too. The president of country Ian Khama is half-white I think. Whites and other non-blacks probably run the country pretty much, pure blacks do only hard labour. It is still a shithole country though.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Ian_Khama_%282014%29_%28cropped%29.jpg


Cape verde is actually doing ok
It is mulatto-country, not black country.

LoLeL
06-07-2018, 06:21 AM
They need leaders like Malcolm X.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
06-08-2018, 05:46 PM
Not really a black country, whites built it and there are still 3% whites and some other non-black minorities like indians. Seems like quite many blacks there have some white dna too. The president of country Ian Khama is half-white I think. Whites and other non-blacks probably run the country pretty much, pure blacks do only hard labour. It is still a shithole country though.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Ian_Khama_%282014%29_%28cropped%29.jpg

It is mulatto-country, not black country.No its a black country. It gets tons of immigrants from africa

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
06-08-2018, 05:48 PM
https://youtu.be/pubUxGDHXeE

https://youtu.be/HIDjsUsQK0g

DarkSecret
06-08-2018, 06:01 PM
Nigeria, Somalia and South Africa were successful civilizations and they are now promising.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
06-08-2018, 06:03 PM
Sudan in ancient times was very sucessful. Its now a days its a terrible mess

Óttar
06-08-2018, 06:07 PM
Nobody's mentioned Ghana.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
06-08-2018, 06:10 PM
Nobody's mentioned Ghana.Its not sucessful anymore, it was in antiquity.

Heather Duval
06-08-2018, 06:21 PM
Nobody's mentioned Ghana.

People there are cute, thats ALL I KNOW
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0686/6333/files/wrap-life-ghana-accra-headwrap-africa7_1024x1024.jpg?v=1475955136
http://touringghana.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/welcome-pic.jpg

Jacques de Imbelloni
06-08-2018, 06:23 PM
https://en.actualitix.com/doc/maps/afri/africa-map-human-development-index.jpg
Gabon and Botswana.

TEUTORIGOS
06-08-2018, 06:49 PM
He makes sense. Black people should stop asking for acceptance and work on improving their own communities.

There are a couple Black nations that are on the prosperous side though.

There has never been a civilization created by blacks worthy of the name and blacks have not even been able to maintain civilization handed over to them on a silver platter via white colonialism.

Carlito's Way
06-08-2018, 07:12 PM
His mommas pussy is the most successful black nation

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
06-08-2018, 07:27 PM
There has never been a civilization created by blacks worthy of the name and blacks have not even been able to maintain civilization handed over to them on a silver platter via white colonialism.Theres many. And many are still undiscovered or un identified


https://youtu.be/O0nstL6jM5c

Larali
06-08-2018, 08:07 PM
There has never been a civilization created by blacks worthy of the name and blacks have not even been able to maintain civilization handed over to them on a silver platter via white colonialism.

Dat is wacist

x54xx
06-08-2018, 08:42 PM
There has never been a civilization created by blacks worthy of the name and blacks have not even been able to maintain civilization handed over to them on a silver platter via white colonialism.

If they were smart they'd just let the Indians back into their countries and control the businesses, instead of kicking them out like Idi Amin did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIQxGIBnui8

Mens-Sarda
06-08-2018, 08:52 PM
Theres many. And many are still undiscovered or un identified


https://youtu.be/O0nstL6jM5c

It's most likely that those trenches are ancient opencast mines, probably to search iron or gold brought by the nearby river. Many african peoples used to extract minerals in that way, they searched into the trenches until they started to fill with water because of the river's proximity; so they buried them using the waste materials, believing that in this way the minerals would have formed again.

Luca
06-08-2018, 08:52 PM
France seems pretty successful for the pont being though :^)

KMack
06-08-2018, 08:54 PM
If they were smart they'd just let the Indians back into their countries and control the businesses, instead of kicking them out like Idi Amin did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIQxGIBnui8

Black Africans and AAs complain about Indians, Chinese, even Americans in their countries. Everything from retail store owners to large manufacturers. I am 100% fine with Toyota or BMW building and expanding operations in the USA (lots of German corporations here). The big problem over there is they really don't have home grown technology, engineering, construction, manufacturing, etc. Most of it is all Foreign. Corruption relative to policing, election rigging, and and across government operations is bad.

Heather Duval
06-08-2018, 09:38 PM
If they were smart they'd just let the Indians back into their countries and control the businesses, instead of kicking them out like Idi Amin did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIQxGIBnui8

Fractal

Leo Iscariot
06-14-2018, 09:41 PM
There has never been a civilization created by blacks worthy of the name and blacks have not even been able to maintain civilization handed over to them on a silver platter via white colonialism.

To be fair, there was the Malian Empire. You could say the Sultinate of Zanzibar as well, although technically it was apart of Oman.

Heather Duval
06-16-2018, 11:17 PM
There are no sucessful Iberian colonies.
https://i.imgur.com/ntWQIyR.gif

StonyArabia
06-17-2018, 04:49 AM
There are no sucessful Iberian colonies.
https://i.imgur.com/ntWQIyR.gif

It's going to be blamed on racial mixing rofl

Heather Duval
06-17-2018, 04:51 AM
It's going to be blamed on racial mixing rofl

And just remembering that there are more blacks in the US than in Mexico, Venezuela etc.
https://i.imgur.com/ntWQIyR.gif

Asheffar
06-17-2018, 04:56 AM
He hasn’t heard about the rwandan miracle? Kenya,botswana are two countries with a bright future it seems

Asheffar
06-17-2018, 04:58 AM
Somalia before Ethiopian beef was actually a nice country to live in

TheGoodGuy
10-06-2018, 11:37 PM
And just remembering that there are more blacks in the US than in Mexico, Venezuela etc.
https://i.imgur.com/ntWQIyR.gif

Ethnic Mexicans are black people with straight hair!

Smeagol
10-06-2018, 11:51 PM
They aren't capable of creating successful nations on their own.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
11-02-2018, 08:34 PM
Africa is the fastest growing region economicly as of recent times.

Kaspias
11-02-2018, 08:35 PM
France

Bruno
11-04-2018, 12:41 AM
Brazil is a great country, even though corruption and poverty.

Dumas
12-25-2018, 08:30 PM
- Ghana and Senegal (to a lesser extent), if you look at governance and democratic institutions, are on the right way. Both countries have successful democratic transitions for a while, they are not too much ethnically divided and have an active diaspora in the world. They value education a lot (especially Senegal which was the West African administrative center during the French colonization, many Africans still go there for college). They are rather organize and stable. On the downside: they have no resources and are poor (especially Senegal), but it can also be a blessing in disguise if you want to limit foreign interference.

- Rwanda is mainly a lie. Kagamé controls his communication very tightly to attract investors and show to the world a made up image. But the country is basically an American colony looting Congo's resources and living on US and UK aids. Beside Kigali, clean and organize, most of the country is still poor and divided. Opposition is shut down and sent to jail. So this isn't a sustainable model for Africa (except if you want to live in a fortress like Israel). The country destabilizes many of its neighbors and one day there will be a strong backlash.

- Cote d'Ivoire had the potential to be the best West African country (economically and socially) but they have too many ethnic groups and Northern immigration has definitively destroyed the country prosperity.