Classify Greeks from Macedonia

[catgeorge]

198cm from Serres Macedonia

http://www.arisbc.gr/data/images/galleries/233/spiros-mourtos(1).jpg

207cm from Thessaloniki

http://www.arisbc.gr/data/images/galleries/987/chri.jpg

208cm from Trikala

http://www.arisbc.gr/data/images/galleries/983/tsai.jpg

205cm from Thessaloniki

http://www.arisbc.gr/data/images/galleries/982/kava1.jpg

188 cm from Kavala

http://www.arisbc.gr/data/images/galleries/237/vassilis-xanthopoulos(1).jpg

190 cm from Kastoria

http://www.arisbc.gr/data/images/galleries/246/nikos-diplaros(2).jpg

[brennus dux gallorum]

Kavala med-armenoid mix, #205 thessaloniki med+gorid??, pass as foreigner, at least in this photo, first east med.

[RN97]

How come Norwegians use Hellas along with Greeks? Are we the only ones to use it to refer to "Greece"?


On topic. Mostly pontids and east meds

[Sikeliot]

Mostly Dinarid and Pontid.. Balkan phenotypes overall in them.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Mostly Dinarid and Pontid.. Balkan phenotypes overall in them.

first, third and probably the last could pass in Sicily, from my personal experience

[Sikeliot]

first, third and probably the last could pass in Sicily, from my personal experience

More so Ragusa/Syracuse and Enna, not so much in the more orientalized regions of the island.

[Danaan]

How come Norwegians use Hellas along with Greeks? Are we the only ones to use it to refer to "Greece"?


On topic. Mostly pontids and east meds

Only Norwegians do it properly. But also the Vietnamese term (Hy Lạp) and the Chinese (Xīlà) come from the word Hellas.
The exonyms grek and javan/junan are used since ancient times.

The most interesting exonym is this one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saberdzneti

[Sikeliot]

I will say though, this guy definitely has a "Slavic" vibe:

http://www.arisbc.gr/data/images/galleries/982/kava1.jpg

[brennus dux gallorum]

I will say though, this guy definitely has a "Slavic" vibe:

http://www.arisbc.gr/data/images/galleries/982/kava1.jpg

so, my guess was right in #2? (even though i don't think that most of his roots are slavic)

[Hellenas]

I will say though, this guy definitely has a "Slavic" vibe:

http://www.arisbc.gr/data/images/galleries/982/kava1.jpg

This man is Dinaric-Mediterranean(=south east European) with some light features, light eyes and light beard(northern admixture). Not a Baltic, not a Neo-Danubian, not a Ladogan, not even a North Pondid.

Why Slavic then? You will keep banding that forever, you don't get from anything? He is from Thessaloniki, the East European admixture there is 15-20% and Northwest 10-15%, how can you know it is "Slavic" and not "Celtic", how can you know it's Slavic and not ancient Greek East European admixture, how can you know if it's Celtic or if it's ancient Greek Northwest European admixture or a combination of such admixtures? Do you know that R1a can by found in Balkans for 9,000 years? Why you keep trying every light/fair Greek to pass him for a Slav?

Are these ancient Greek Macedonians Slavs to you?

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Nordics%20and%20Nordoids/807bce26-e6ef-4952-804b-48cf540a62d9_zpsozkthwgd.jpg

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Nordics%20and%20Nordoids/2f7de336-621d-48e0-aa57-1ef5a7a36710_zpsvmu78gkn.jpg

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Nordics%20and%20Nordoids/00c94729-0aa2-4bc8-bc47-4b5a44adecb3_zps5op4hyr9.jpg

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Northern%20admixed%20Greeks/a98b980c-c87a-4911-aa4e-c29057e729d3_zps6af0xmlt.jpg

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Northern%20admixed%20Greeks/ff05fb50-0884-48b6-844e-4666de184b47_zpswrjebipo.jpg


http://www.messagetoeagle.com/images2/persephoneplutorape00.jpg

http://users.sch.gr/pchaloul/Makedonia/arch-vergina_toixografies.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d6/2f/db/d62fdbe6d10d32eff7fc0b5c52f825c1.jpg

[brennus dux gallorum]

his hair color is much darker than the examples you posted

[Sikeliot]

his hair color is much darker than the examples you posted

Yes, but his features look "East European" in a way that some of the others do not.

[Hellenas]

his hair color is much darker than the examples you posted

I posted them just to show that Northern admixture and northern phenotype is general could be find in ancient Macedonia. If Blonds and brown haired persons could be find in ancient Macedonia, persons like him could be found too.

[Hellenas]

Yes, but his features look "East European" in a way that some of the others do not.

East European features are the features of Baltids, of Neo-Danubians, of Ladogans, of North Pondid and of East Nordids. This man has south-east European features, he is Dinaric-Mediterranean, he looks Balkanian. He could also pass in Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia etc.

Which are his "East European" features, his Dinaric nose and ears or his Mediterranean head?