Classify this Celtic Harp player

[Valmont]

Hey guys,

Hope everyone is doing well.

How would you classify this young Celtic singer? I had already created a thread about her but it died with the forum crash.

Where would she fit best?

https://abp.bzh/photos/23/23769_1.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/C%C3%A9cile_Corbel_-_St-Yves_2010_%C3%A0_T%C3%B4ky%C3%B4_c.JPG

http://static.agendaculturel.fr/im/art_org/c/cecile-corbel-1tsa.jpg

http://www.ouest-france.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image-640x360/public/2014/10/03/cecile-corbel-ouest-france.jpg?itok=LfW2Ex1L

http://photos.fotoloft.fr/3343/1024/792276.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=667VXGPz8J0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCSJdi5f8WY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swv0kFp-6Zw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inq3XPLA500

[crazyladybutterfly]

she looks very british , fine looking lady

[Ülev]

https://youtu.be/ky9Ox9kKmLg

[Valmont]

she looks very british , fine looking lady

Doesn't she? She'd pass very well in the British isles. She isn't British but Bretonne.

[Era]

Keltid

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Doesn't she? She'd pass very well in the British isles. She isn't British but Bretonne.

She looks very Irish to me, and I am not referring to the hair but the facial structure.

This really solidifies my view that, the Irish, Welsh, Cornish (ancestors of the Bretons) were all one very close people (their specific Y-DNA of these people also points to them all having been one group not long ago). Therefore this look must have came from that group as we can see it is present in all of said groups.

[The Blade]

Brunn + Keltic Nordid.

[crazyladybutterfly]

Doesn't she? She'd pass very well in the British isles. She isn't British but Bretonne.

she looks stereotypically english lol

[Era]

I don't wanna be mean but she isn't even average looking to me

[Aëlwenn]

Keltic Nordid.
I agree she look like the english " cliché".

[crazyladybutterfly]

I don't wanna be mean but she isn't even average looking to me

yeah her nose is a bit off. but i like her overall features, i would kill to have them lol

[barkoo]

she looks stereotypically english lol

She looks more Irish though.

[de Burgh II]

Fine Celtic phenotype! ;)

Keltic nordid.

[Rædwald]

Keltic Nordid pred.

[Valmont]

She looks very Irish to me, and I am not referring to the hair but the facial structure.

This really solidifies my view that, the Irish, Welsh, Cornish (ancestors of the Bretons) were all one very close people (their specific Y-DNA of these people also points to them all having been one group not long ago). Therefore this look must have came from that group as we can see it is present in all of said groups.

What about the Scots? For some reason she looks more Scottish than Irish (and definitely more than English)

The Cornish, Welsh and Breton are closely linked together through language and history if not through genetics. Thanks for your input :)

[Valmont]

yeah her nose is a bit off. but i like her overall features, i would kill to have them lol

Would you really? Or would you want to have her complexion? Because she is quite unique looking (and somewhat tries to resemble a fairy)

[Valmont]

Keltic Nordid.
I agree she look like the english " cliché".

Elle vient de ton coin, si tu habites effectivement près de Brocéliande

[crazyladybutterfly]

Would you really? Or would you want to have her complexion? Because she is quite unique looking (and somewhat tries to resemble a fairy)

yes i would. it isnt only about her colors, i like her overall features too (except the nose on the side )

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

What about the Scots? For some reason she looks more Scottish than Irish (and definitely more than English)

The Cornish, Welsh and Breton are closely linked together through language and history if not through genetics. Thanks for your input :)

Yes the Scots too, forgot to mention them.

All Brits are basically very close, the outlier is the Anglo-Saxons who came later, and mixed with essentially Welsh people to create the English. Also in Ireland there was much Norman/Viking influence in certain parts than there was once thought. Irish actually average out similar to English. Irish and English are both a mix of 'Celtic' (aka Welsh-like) and North Germanic elements (English via Anglo-Saxons and Irish via Normans/Vikings). It is for this reason most Irish closest genetic cousins on the most accurate calculators for Europeans are the English.

More southern Dutch people are also of a similar mix (Celtic + North Germanic). Sometimes Irish could have Dutch as their closest cousins, too.

Her type is 'Keltic-Nordid' which I believe is essentially 'Brunn' (a very Celtic type) mixed with Nordid, a Germanic type. More pure/Welsh-like Irish (mostly located in the far eastern, still gaelic-speaking fringes of Ireland) will look more like pure Brunns. You get a lot of Welsh Brunns, too. Welsh and Irish look pretty similar overall. In the more Viking/Norman mixed parts of Ireland (Normans themselves descendants of Vikings, probably mixed with Franks) the Keltic-Nordid type is more popular, probably because of this mix, Nordid coming from the Vikings/Normans and Brunn coming from the Irish themselves, mixed to create 'Keltid-Nordid'. It's also not uncommon for English to have this look, the Nordid element coming from the Anglo-Saxons and the Brunn coming from the Celts.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

https://multiglom.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/cushing01.jpg

Peter Cushing is good example of an English Keltic-Nordid and IMO passes extremely well as an Irishman, specifically in parts with historically high Viking and Norman influence. You can see he is basically some sort of gracilized/nordicized Brunn (essentially what a Keltic-Nordid is). The lines next to the nose are deeply drawn, there is that sort of slit above the chin (I've heard these are Celtic traits), etc.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Very strange nose shape. Definitely looks foreign. Is she from France?

[Valmont]

Very strange nose shape. Definitely looks foreign. Is she from France?

She is. From Brittany in N-W France.

[Aodhan]

Celtic facade stronk

[Tooting Carmen]

Celtic facade stronk

Yes. Atlanto-Nordid?

[Aëlwenn]

Her nose remind me british actress Katie Dickie:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/605137maxresdefault.jpg (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=605137maxresdefault.jpg)

[Aëlwenn]

Elle vient de ton coin, si tu habites effectivement près de Brocéliande

Je vis dans le Finistère, dans le pays de Morlaix, finistère nord, et originaire de Normandie.
Ma mère elle est bretonne, mais qu'elle vient de Bretagne ne m'étonne pas^^

[LieDetector]

Keltic Nordid

[Aodhan]

Yes. Atlanto-Nordid?

I can agree with that, plus CM?

[Valmont]

Yes. Atlanto-Nordid?


I can agree with that, plus CM?

Everyone else went for Keltic-Nordid which is the usual classification red-heads get. Do you guys make a distinction between atlanto-nordid and north-atlantid?

[XenophobicPrussian]

https://multiglom.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/cushing01.jpg

Peter Cushing is good example of an English Keltic-Nordid and IMO passes extremely well as an Irishman, specifically in parts with historically high Viking and Norman influence. You can see he is basically some sort of gracilized/nordicized Brunn (essentially what a Keltic-Nordid is). The lines next to the nose are deeply drawn, there is that sort of slit above the chin (I've heard these are Celtic traits), etc.
There's really an Irish strain of Keltid-Nordid you won't find anywhere else but Ireland, where as Peter Cushing and other English or German Keltid-Nordids like Prince William look pretty different. There's almost enough differences between the Germanic and Irish strains of Keltid-Nordid that imo they could be considered different phenotypes. Also, I would say a Keltid-Nordid is Nordid+Baskid, not Nordid+Brunn. Given the rarity of the Irish strain in Scandinavia/Germany, I would say it was already in Ireland before Saxon-Viking settlements and also likely before the Celts as well.

Irish strain of Keltid-Nordid:

http://i4.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article9812390.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Mark-OShea-1.jpg

http://tf2chan.net/offtopic/src/129050687267.jpg

https://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/paddy-holohan-ufc-fight-night-76-3.jpg?w=1000

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/DZE9QverD0d5XjJC-zvY4uF1LfM=/0x25:300x225/1310x873/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/imported_assets/1154337/007_Ed_Herman_large_large.jpg

[XenophobicPrussian]

Everyone else went for Keltic-Nordid which is the usual classification red-heads get. Do you guys make a distinction between atlanto-nordid and north-atlantid?
I would say red hair is evenly distributed between North Atlantids, Brunns, Sub-Nordids(the British Isle strain) and Keltid-Nordids. That red haired chick from GoT definitely isn't Keltid-Nordid and there was a red haired dude on this forum once that was classified North Atlantid if I recall correctly.

The girl in the OP looks North Atlantid to me with a Keltid-Nordid nose. Definitely missing a lot of Keltid-Nordid features.

[Valmont]

I would say red hair is evenly distributed between North Atlantids, Brunns, Sub-Nordids(the British Isle strain) and Keltid-Nordids. That red haired chick from GoT definitely isn't Keltid-Nordid and there was a red haired dude on this forum once that was classified North Atlantid if I recall correctly.

The girl in the OP looks North Atlantid to me with a Keltid-Nordid nose. Definitely missing a lot of Keltid-Nordid features.

If you are referring to Sansa Stark in GoT I don't believe she's a natural red-head.

Anyway I agree. Most threads I have posted on here which featured red-haired individuals ended with the "Keltic Nordid" classification when you can find it in other phenotypes. There's this pretty red-haired alpine that I see on the bus every week.

This girl's also a good example.

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/9/42/91/9/@/306911-blandine-bellavoir-950x0-1.jpg

[XenophobicPrussian]

If you are referring to Sansa Stark in GoT I don't believe she's a natural red-head.
Naw, I was referring to Rose Leslie(Ygritte). Not sure if her red hair is fake either though(fucking beautiful either way though :thumbs)

http://img1.ndsstatic.com/game-of-thrones/ygritte-rose-leslie-dans-game-of-thrones_170431_w620.jpg

[Valmont]

Naw, I was referring to Rose Leslie(Ygritte). Not sure if her red hair is fake either though(fucking beautiful either way though :thumbs)

http://img1.ndsstatic.com/game-of-thrones/ygritte-rose-leslie-dans-game-of-thrones_170431_w620.jpg

How could I have forgotten Ygritte? I clearly know nothing

She's actually a very interesting "specimen". She comes from an Aristocratic Scottish Family (clan Leslie). Her ancestry must be fascinating! And her accent's a rare one to hear. You don't meet people who speak received pronounciation everyday.

I've fallen in love with her the second I saw her (even if I had to "agree" to my girlfriend's comments about her being "too skinny") haha