Classify Norwegian musician/youtuber Varg Vikernes

[Sebastianus Rex]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/16/article-2365720-1AD6AEB4000005DC-735_306x423.jpg

https://didoisux.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/vikernes-arrest.jpg

https://heathenharvest.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/varg-vikernes.png

[Enflamme]

Not sure: Nordid?

Off topic: i don't like his ideas (nordicist and pagan) and his "music".

[Tooting Carmen]

In between KN and fully Nordid (if that makes sense).

[Magnolia]

He is a murderer, isn't he? btw. A good looking murderer.
Skandonordid.

[♥ Lily ♥]

He is a murderer, isn't he? btw. A good looking murderer.
Skandonordid.

Defending your own life is 'murder'? I think it was self-defence, given how many people hated and feared Euronymous, who was provocative.

Btw, would you consider killing other living species on this planet such as insects or bacteria as being murder? (Killing a mouse or a spider isn't murder?) Define murder.

Hail Varg and Burzum! \,,/

[Wanderer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ah8sEG9YGo

Some of Varg's ideas about paganism are interesting. But he's of the "O.R.I.O.N." ("our race is our nation") persuasion, so his ideas about nationalism are not very interesting to me. Plus, I disagree with his anti-agricultural views.

[Sebastianus Rex]

In between KN and fully Nordid (if that makes sense).

Nordid then. A slight nasal convexity is typical also of the Nordid type, if that's what you detected as possible KN element.

[crazyladybutterfly]

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[crazyladybutterfly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RD2ah8sEG9YGo&v=iqMZrMx6mkM he looks like a psychopath i dont believe in anything he said

[DarknessWin]

NORDID

[caviezel]

I wonder what he thinks of Scandinavians with paleo-asian/lapp features like this guy. he said he wasn't fond of Heuromymous also because his look.

http://scandasia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Joel-Tarning-Mahidol.jpg

[RN97]

He is a nordicist that has retarded ideas. He preaches "white nationalism" on his youtube tricking people into following him, while he believes that most of Europe are merely mongrels. Even pale red haired people. From his website:
"We don’t really know when the first individuals with red hair appeared, but we know it is a mutation that occurred when Europeans (with very little melanin) mixed with non-Europeans (with much melanin) a long time ago. " https://thuleanperspective.com/2013/10/23/red-hair/
I wonder what you'd classify his wife(who is French)?? She wouldn't really pass in Norway and I don't see why he didn't chose a Norwegian wife rather.
Video of his wife:
https://youtu.be/SN1feAGd8sk?t=16m

[crazyladybutterfly]

I wonder what he thinks of Scandinavians with paleo-asian/lapp features like this guy. he said he wasn't fond of Heuromymous also because his look.

http://scandasia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Joel-Tarning-Mahidol.jpg

scandinavian nazi or whitenationalists often hate sami people or people with sami ancestry... they see them as if they were roma

anyway i dont see anything "wrong" with heuromymous http://i.imgur.com/ULCjxbp.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4075/4937797580_55cd9081f8_o.jpg

[crazyladybutterfly]

He is a nordicist that has retarded ideas. He preaches "white nationalism" on his youtube tricking people into following him, while he believes that most of Europe are merely mongrels. Even pale red haired people. From his website:
"We don’t really know when the first individuals with red hair appeared, but we know it is a mutation that occurred when Europeans (with very little melanin) mixed with non-Europeans (with much melanin) a long time ago. " https://thuleanperspective.com/2013/10/23/red-hair/
I wonder what you'd classify his wife(who is French)?? She wouldn't really pass in Norway and I don't see why he didn't chose a Norwegian wife rather.
Video of his wife:
https://youtu.be/SN1feAGd8sk?t=16m

he must be lucky to have her, she is average looking and not scandinavian but she is young and who really would have wanted someone like him? the number of whitenationalist women is extremely low it's even lower the number of these women willing to marry and have kids with a psychopath like him

[Enflamme]

he must be lucky to have her, she is average looking and not scandinavian but she is young and who really would have wanted someone like him? the number of whitenationalist women is extremely low it's even lower the number of these women willing to marry and have kids with a psychopath like him

Off topic:

Why psychopath? Because he "killed" a guy? But he wanted to kill him; I am totally opposed to the ideas of this guy, although I admit its great culture including on ancient Nordic religions and other things, but before insult him of "psychopath" we must take the context (and I'm not saying I know more, but I say to from the information that i've hear): a person attacked and tried to kill him; he defended and kill this guy.

I'm not defending anyone, I simply say that we should not simplify things in insult this guy of "psychopath": the guy who tried to kill him is a true psychopath, it could be (I say "it could be") just a self defense situation, nothing more. we know that human mind quickly may skid into this kind of moment: a guy assaulted you, wants to kill you, what are you doing?

I might be wrong, I do not know more, but it is a hypothesis.

[MethCat]

Pretty Nordic/Nordid, no doubt about that. Made some good music back in the day though. Lived pretty close to where Øyvind was murdered as a kid now that I think about, shame he didn't get as fair of a trail as he should have.

Still, he did murder someone lol.

[crazyladybutterfly]

Off topic:

Why psychopath? Because he "killed" a guy? But he wanted to kill him; I am totally opposed to the ideas of this guy, although I admit its great culture including on ancient Nordic religions and other things, but before insult him of "psychopath" we must take the context (and I'm not saying I know more, but I say to from the information that i've hear): a person attacked and tried to kill him; he defended and kill this guy.

I'm not defending anyone, I simply say that we should not simplify things in insult this guy of "psychopath": the guy who tried to kill him is a true psychopath, it could be (I say "it could be") just a self defense situation, nothing more. we know that human mind quickly may skid into this kind of moment: a guy assaulted you, wants to kill you, what are you doing?

I might be wrong, I do not know more, but it is a hypothesis.

if he was arrested there are no proofs of his innocence, quite the opposite.. and i fail to see why he burned down churches (i have heard about the guy that was killed and dead being both animal abusers, not sure if it's true but this would be that they "chose each other" just fine.) . anyway even if he is innocent many would still see him as "dangerous" , would you really trust someone convincted of murder even if he claims to be innocent and have KIDS WITH HIM?

[Pennywise]

Being teenager never expires. They still talking about an ordinary murder/self defence incident that happened 23 years ago as if something too serious thing in the world history. :picard2:

[MethCat]

Its a guy who is partly closing his eyes, nothing ''Mongoloid'' about that. Don't be silly. Having an average 3% Mongoloid admixture does not make your eyes any more Mongoloid. Just silly nonsense perpetuated by you armchair Anthropologists.

A true Saami/Lapp? Yeah but when they were ''pure'', we were talking admixture around 50%, not single digit numbers.

Having a wide face is proof of Mongoloid admixture to Varg because he is an idiot when it comes to that. Having just a wide face does not mean anything obviously.

[Enflamme]

if he was arrested there are no proofs of his innocence, quite the opposite.. and i fail to see why he burned down churches (i have heard about the guy that was killed and dead being both animal abusers, not sure if it's true but this would be that they "chose each other" just fine.) . anyway even if he is innocent many would still see him as "dangerous" , would you really trust someone convincted of murder even if he claims to be innocent and have KIDS WITH HIM?

You sentimentalized too much and you simplified too much. It's more complex than that. I issued the hypothesis of a possible self-defense and if this is the case, then yes, he is innocent in the sense that he has to kill to defend his life, because a guy wanted to kill him.

I'm not saying that what he says is absolutely true, I do not know in because I do not know the whole deal. But I prefer not to swing rumors ("oh, in addition it seems that he did this and that"). Regarding the burned churches: I do not know, is that there is real evidence that this is him? If so, then I want to see the evidence in this case, if he is guilty of having participated to this, i can recognize him culprit, but if there is no concrete evidence to go in this direction, then I will say nothing.

[crazyladybutterfly]

You sentimentalized too much and you simplified too much. It's more complex than that. I issued the hypothesis of a possible self-defense and if this is the case, then yes, he is innocent in the sense that he has to kill to defend his life, because a guy wanted to kill him.

I'm not saying that what he says is absolutely true, I do not know in because I do not know the whole deal. But I prefer not to swing rumors ("oh, in addition it seems that he did this and that"). Regarding the burned churches: I do not know, is that there is real evidence that this is him? If so, then I want to see the evidence in this case, if he is guilty of having participated to this, i can recognize him culprit, but if there is no concrete evidence to go in this direction, then I will say nothing.


In an interview with Michael Moynihan, Vikernes made a statement about the church burnings that hints at a heathen rather than a Satanist motivation:
I am not going to say that I burnt any churches. But let me put it this way: There was one person who started it. I was not found guilty of burning the Fantoft stave church, but anyway, that was what triggered the whole thing. That was the 6th of June and everyone linked it to Satanism ... What everyone overlooked was that on the 6th June, 793, in Lindesfarne in Britain was the site of the first known Viking raid in history, with Vikings from Hordaland, which is my county ... They [the Christians] desecrated our graves, our burial mounds, so it's revenge.

i know it's wikipedia but it suggests a source, at least. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes

[kiko]

Nordid

[Enflamme]

i know it's wikipedia but it suggests a source, at least. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes

Yeah, but he speak about this toward 3:33 >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN1feAGd8sk&feature=youtu.be&t=3m33s

[Enflamme]

But again i do not know about this case. Even Wikipedia indicates that the reason is unknown for the murder ... self defense? willful murder? >>> "It has been speculated that the murder was the result of a power struggle, a financial dispute over Burzum records, or an attempt at "out doing" the stabbing in Lillehammer.[43] Vikernes denies all of these, claiming that he attacked Euronymous in self-defense. He says that Euronymous had plotted to stun him with an electroshock weapon, tie him up and torture him to death while videotaping the event. Vikernes explains: "If he was talking about it to everybody and anybody I wouldn't have taken it seriously. But he just told a select group of friends, and one of them told me".[44] He said Euronymous planned to use a meeting about an unsigned contract to ambush him.[28][44] Blackthorn stood outside smoking while Vikernes climbed the stairs to Euronymous's apartment on the fourth floor.[28] Vikernes said he met Euronymous at the door and handed him the contract, but when he stepped forward and confronted Euronymous, Euronymous "panicked" and kicked him in the chest.[28] The two got into a struggle and Vikernes stabbed Euronymous to death. Vikernes contends that most of Euronymous's cut wounds were caused by broken glass he had fallen on during the struggle.[28] After the slaying, Vikernes and Blackthorn drove back to Bergen. On the way, they stopped at a lake where Vikernes disposed of his bloodstained clothes.[28] The self-defense story is doubted by Emperor drummer Faust[45] and other members of the scene.[who?]"

On Wiki France: "There is much speculation as to the motivation for the murder, but no thesis still appears to be correct: deteriorating friendship between Vikernes and Aarseth (which would have turned to hatred), a payment problem Aarseth share for albums Burzum, jealousy of Vikernes to Aarseth, the then leader of the movement. Vikernes meanwhile said he was initially the victim and that it was a self-defense response to the threat of the gun Euronymous."

So my answer is: i do not know.

[Magnolia]

He was convicted and sentenced to 20 years to life in prison (maximum prison sentence in Norway). If the crime had been committed in self defense, he would have got a lighter sentence. He is a good looking man so its actually harder to believe that he was able to kill someone.

[Taiga Lake]

East Nordid i guess.

[The Blade]

Interesting, my friend. I have a thread about Vikernes (and Adam Darski from Behemoth) also:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?186248-Classify-Adam-Nergal-Darski-amp-Kristian-Varg-Vikernes
Anyway, I've seen some people rating Vikernes as East Nordid but I disagree - Scando-Nordid.
As for what he did - Euronymous wasn't exactly the most decent person also.
Surely he was a bigger threat to society than Vikernes.
I am not saying I approve murder (of course, I don't) but I find Vikernes to be too demonized by some.
It is ironic that Breivik who killed 77 innocent people will probably serve the same time in prison as Varg did.
As for his music - his older stuff was better though from that era of Norwegian black metal I prefer the albums of Emperor, Satyricon and Enslaved, for instance.

[Styrian Mujo]

Scandonordid.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Interesting, my friend. I have a thread about Vikernes (and Adam Darski from Behemoth) also:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?186248-Classify-Adam-Nergal-Darski-amp-Kristian-Varg-Vikernes
Anyway, I've seen some people rating Vikernes as East Nordid but I disagree - Scando-Nordid.
As for what he did - Euronymous wasn't exactly the most decent person also.
Surely he was a bigger threat to society than Vikernes.
I am not saying I approve murder (of course, I don't) but I find Vikernes to be too demonized by some.
It is ironic that Breivik who killed 77 innocent people will probably serve the same time in prison as Varg did.
As for his music - his older stuff was better though from that era of Norwegian black metal I prefer the albums of Emperor, Satyricon and Enslaved, for instance.

Yes, no doubt he is a good example of the Scando-Nordid type in my opinion.

[Timawa]

Nordid

[Slowdive]

What the fuck with Vikernes' haters?

Hail Varg!