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user_
09-20-2016, 05:55 PM
I want t show you some pictures from red head day in Tbilisi with ginger Georgians :)

http://s12.radikal.ru/i185/1609/64/3ffe5ec65b6a.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/e0tgu8lvgd4fn)

http://s018.radikal.ru/i521/1609/cf/cc79de02f706.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/0y3h5o39yxpv6)

http://s017.radikal.ru/i413/1609/83/134a121614e4.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/qeiv3wav8e5az)

http://s020.radikal.ru/i711/1609/51/99fdd96356bd.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/y06xivupn3f4w)

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http://s019.radikal.ru/i620/1609/a8/1b8142b21fbc.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/5b1tokiy6n4xe)

http://s020.radikal.ru/i720/1609/e0/81936d959c84.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/sw155vufcwzgq)

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http://s018.radikal.ru/i526/1609/3a/cf11d1d4203d.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/n18kqtwwiavns)

http://s019.radikal.ru/i606/1609/74/0ab544483e1f.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/lz09ztckcck4b)

Styrian Mujo
09-20-2016, 05:58 PM
That is racist.

Ülev
09-20-2016, 06:00 PM
We will rise again


https://youtu.be/ky9Ox9kKmLg

user_
09-20-2016, 06:04 PM
Another one...
I guess ginger maps are very ignorant about Georgians, georgians score high percent of red hair, probably higher than many other northern people.

http://s014.radikal.ru/i327/1609/a0/05733abb5483.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/vezujeo6q0q9y)
http://s008.radikal.ru/i304/1609/b1/846bf448a1ba.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/qzebj86f1xq9r)

http://s016.radikal.ru/i334/1609/29/d58266abe044.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/9a9g11jmvh6z7)

http://s56.radikal.ru/i154/1609/c8/a2b375fc8568.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/0l9ytl3geau4j)

http://s017.radikal.ru/i403/1609/6f/db5e3989efa9.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/rpql33yi352jz)

http://s020.radikal.ru/i704/1609/2d/8f6a65c2de47.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/mv16j9tcx6n5n)

http://s017.radikal.ru/i405/1609/09/a7bbf57635ee.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/usi5opfli9vr0)

http://s008.radikal.ru/i306/1609/9b/e27313560f2c.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/vviwrbgecq0xh)

http://s020.radikal.ru/i722/1609/e9/e6cfcc688656.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/2la7a535l0i1l)

http://s020.radikal.ru/i701/1609/a2/b2bef4492889.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/4iunawyh6cju1)

http://s017.radikal.ru/i424/1609/a1/026b5d5b8df6.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/mw54qlw3lmn3l)

cosmoo
09-20-2016, 06:07 PM
Here comes this guy again, trying to make out of Georgians something they are not xD
No anthropology study ever recorded increased rufosity in Georgia, here is what your average countrymen look like
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-04/09/xin_5820406100927843150093.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44977000/jpg/_44977228_hands_afp.jpg

Strong OWD detected.
Also, red hair outside Europe often is caused by completely different genes, just like blonde hair in Australian Aborigines and Melanesians:
True carroty hair, however, must be held to be a phenomenon which (like Albinism) may be found in any race (Rutilism, Erythrism). (Hans F.K. Gunther, The Racial Elements of European History, chapter II, part One)

user_
09-20-2016, 06:08 PM
That is racist.

what exactly??

http://s018.radikal.ru/i502/1609/76/fea31dabc371.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/cylvkf46wtw0l)

http://s017.radikal.ru/i428/1609/7f/72fa65ce7de5.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/psqbo3xpxycjn)

http://s019.radikal.ru/i622/1609/6d/a03f3c77f919.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/tp3n4ut50u8w3)

http://s018.radikal.ru/i507/1609/67/b195db6f8056.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/g2jngv3u0t8in)

http://s42.radikal.ru/i096/1609/ac/8eae80cd80aa.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/qbf2vz85b7lal)

http://s012.radikal.ru/i319/1609/1b/fa22fac9a489.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/ods05f0hqemw5)

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http://s020.radikal.ru/i714/1609/48/d19b334410db.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/qg1k9ah3es9z6)

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http://s020.radikal.ru/i720/1609/fe/5960a17900ce.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/0by1dtoiiymxh)

Dandelion
09-20-2016, 06:12 PM
Are red-haired people common in Georgia? I wouldn't have expected that, if yes.

Yggdrasil
09-20-2016, 06:15 PM
Are red-haired people common in Georgia? I wouldn't have expected that, if yes.

Me neither. Are they all Georgian?

user_
09-20-2016, 06:18 PM
Are red-haired people common in Georgia? I wouldn't have expected that, if yes.

Yes! it's common.
I'm also ginger, but with caucasoid facial features, like many other redhead georgians :)

why you would not expect? Lot of Georgians lived in cloudy mountainous regions.

user_
09-20-2016, 06:21 PM
Me neither. Are they all Georgian?

They are all Georgian :))

Dandelion
09-20-2016, 06:21 PM
Yes! it's common.
I'm also ginger, but with caucasoid facial features, like many other redhead georgians :)

why you would not expect? Lot of Georgians lived in cloudy mountainous regions.

Awesome.

Mikula
09-20-2016, 06:25 PM
Yes! it's common.
I'm also ginger, but with caucasoid facial features, like many other redhead georgians :)

why you would not expect? Lot of Georgians lived in cloudy mountainous regions.

It is very poor knowledge about Georgians in Europe, generally. Most of people know only one Georgian:
http://nashaplaneta.su/_bl/137/12163328.gif

cosmoo
09-20-2016, 06:28 PM
Yes! it's common.
I'm also ginger, but with caucasoid facial features, like many other redhead georgians :)

why you would not expect? Lot of Georgians lived in cloudy mountainous regions.

Your reasoning makes no sense at all, look at my reply above. There is not a single anthropological study which shows Georgians have significant degree of rufosity.

Lack of sunshine doesn't have anything to do with hair at all, because hair is made up of dead cells, and different pigmentation of hair contributes to absolutely nothing (especially not vitamin D production). Heck, this should be common knowledge by now.

Any country in Europe, northern Africa and (maybe) Middle East can make ginger festival and summon enough redheads for it, it ain't rocket science to do, but it doesn't mean that particular country has high occurrence of rufosity, lol.

Wrong
09-20-2016, 06:38 PM
Are they Gurians?

user_
09-20-2016, 06:45 PM
Your reasoning makes no sense at all, look at my reply above. There is not a single anthropological study which shows Georgians have significant degree of rufosity.

Lack of sunshine doesn't have anything to do with hair at all, because hair is made up of dead cells, and different pigmentation of hair contributes to absolutely nothing (especially not vitamin D production). Heck, this should be common knowledge by now.

Any country in Europe, northern Africa and (maybe) Middle East can make ginger festival and summon enough redheads for it, it ain't rocket science to do, but it doesn't mean that particular country has high occurrence of rufosity, lol.

less sun-more gingers

you should expect gingers in a country (i mean Georgia), where 40% of territory is still forested, where some regions get as much sun, as Great Britain :)
Don't tell me stupid things, people, who lives in cool Caucasus mountains, can not have same pigmentation, as people of North Africa.
This is stupid.

user_
09-20-2016, 06:46 PM
Are they Gurians?

From different regions, Imeretians are probably the most red headed people among Georgians.

Wrong
09-20-2016, 06:48 PM
From different regions, Imeretians are probably the most red headed people among Georgians.
I heard that Gurians are the lightest people on earth.

revealman
09-20-2016, 06:50 PM
pigment disorder..

Wrong
09-20-2016, 06:50 PM
pigment disorder..
your vegan brain disorder.

revealman
09-20-2016, 06:55 PM
vegan brain disorder.
In the case of red hair color, due to the malfunction of the MC1R gene, the pheomelanin in the hair follicles, builds up and is not converted into eumelanin. The stable and reddish nature of the pheomelanin molecules cause the resultant red hair color. The inheritance of red hair color depends on the hair color of the parents. If both parents are red-haired, then the progeny also has red hair. However, in cases where one parent has a different hair color, the non-mutated gene copy from that parent may correct or compensate for the mutated gene copy from the other parent, resulting in progeny that may or may not have red hair.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/red-hair-blue-eyes-and-other-genetic-mutations-in-humans.html

this is called science uneducated neanderthal..

Wrong
09-20-2016, 06:57 PM
In the case of red hair color, due to the malfunction of the MC1R gene, the pheomelanin in the hair follicles, builds up and is not converted into eumelanin. The stable and reddish nature of the pheomelanin molecules cause the resultant red hair color. The inheritance of red hair color depends on the hair color of the parents. If both parents are red-haired, then the progeny also has red hair. However, in cases where one parent has a different hair color, the non-mutated gene copy from that parent may correct or compensate for the mutated gene copy from the other parent, resulting in progeny that may or may not have red hair.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/red-hair-blue-eyes-and-other-genetic-mutations-in-humans.html

this is called science uneducated neanderthal..

you have a vegan brain disorder from lacking in complete amino acid profile intake.
you have a lack of D-vitamin and Zinc aswell.

Yggdrasil
09-20-2016, 06:57 PM
It is very poor knowledge about Georgians in Europe, generall,. Most of peple knows only one Georgian:
http://nashaplaneta.su/_bl/137/12163328.gif

And he was an evil son of a bitch.

revealman
09-20-2016, 07:00 PM
you have a vegan brain disorder from lacking in complete amino acid profile intake.

you cannot change scientific facts by posting bullshit comments.. :wave:

you do not even know what amino acid means, choban..

cosmoo
09-20-2016, 07:00 PM
less sun-more gingers

you should expect gingers in a country (i mean Georgia), where 40% of territory is still forested, where some regions get as much sun, as Great Britain :)
Don't tell me stupid things, people, who lives in cool Caucasus mountains, can not have same pigmentation, as people of North Africa.
This is stupid.

Sunshine doesn't mean shit. It can't cause red-pigmented hair to arise. Different pigmented hair has no evolutionary advantage at all, it's just non-functional trait. Eastern parts of Northern Europe don't get much light, and they still don't have lots of red hair, while western parts of Northern Europe do. It's genetics. Rufosity appears everywhere where Upper Palaeolithic European types appear. According to your logic, Inuits would be the most red-haired people in world, lol.
I'm not telling you Georgia has same pigmentation as North Africa, just that everyone from that area can summon enough gingers to make ginger-parade as well, making your festival doesn't mean shit. Show me anthropological evidence which shows Georgians are rufous or GTFO.
Your Caucasus buddy just downthumbed. In one of threads you wrote how Georgians are "more European culturally than Balkans", LOL. Keep lying to yourself, your people are not redheaded, they are not light, they are not European. Bye bye.

P.S:
Black skin and a black eye, then, may be variables which are advantageous under hot, bright, equatorial light conditions. A partially depigmented skin and fundus condition can perhaps survive without disadvantage only in a climate where the light is weak. Blond hair, however, cannot be assigned any survival value of either a negative or a positive character.
(C.S. Coon, The Races of Europe, Chapter VIII, section 5)

Same is for red hair or any other hair, pigmentation of hair doesn't confer any advantage at all in adapting to climate.

Wrong
09-20-2016, 07:01 PM
you cannot change scientific facts by posting bullshit comments.. :wave:

you do not even know what amino acid means, choban..
you can't even spell it for shit, potatofaced retard.

meat eating is life.

Yggdrasil
09-20-2016, 07:04 PM
Odin of Ossetia, may you please explain why i am wrong thinking that Stalin was an evil peace of shit? :coffee:

revealman
09-20-2016, 07:05 PM
you can't even spell it for shit, potatofaced retard.

meat eating is life.
lol of course thats why your arteries are clogged so you get not enough blood to the neocortex...

revealman
09-20-2016, 07:06 PM
you have a vegan brain disorder from lacking in complete amino acid profile intake.
you have a lack of D-vitamin and Zinc aswell.
dumb uneducated shepherd from tirana. vitamin-d is not present in meat you idiot.. it is only found in small amounts in fish

it is mainly produced by sun exposure

red hair is a disroder, a malfunction of the MC1R gene, deal with it! science does not lie..

user_
09-20-2016, 07:12 PM
Sunshine doesn't mean shit. It can't cause red-pigmented hair to arise. Different pigmented hair has no evolutionary advantage at all, it's just non-functional trait. Eastern parts of Northern Europe don't get much light, and they still don't have lots of red hair, while western parts of Northern Europe do. It's genetics. Rufosity appears everywhere where Upper Palaeolithic European types appear. According to your logic, Inuits would be the most red-haired people in world, lol.
I'm not telling you Georgia has same pigmentation as North Africa, just that everyone from that area can summon enough gingers to make ginger-parade as well, making your festival doesn't mean shit. Show me anthropological evidence which shows Georgians are rufous or GTFO.
Your Caucasus buddy just downthumbed. In one of threads you wrote how Georgians are "more European culturally than Balkans", LOL. Keep lying to yourself, your people are not redheaded, they are not light, they are not European. Bye bye.

P.S:
Black skin and a black eye, then, may be variables which are advantageous under hot, bright, equatorial light conditions. A partially depigmented skin and fundus condition can perhaps survive without disadvantage only in a climate where the light is weak. Blond hair, however, cannot be assigned any survival value of either a negative or a positive character.
(C.S. Coon, The Races of Europe, Chapter VIII, section 5)

Same is for red hair or any other hair, pigmentation of hair doesn't confer any advantage at all in adapting to climate.

Great Britain has more gingers than other parts of Europe, and Great Britan has lesser sun than other parts of Europe :) Coincidence?

And show me where i posted that Georgians are more European than Balkans?!?!
I posted Georgian folklore is less influenced by middle east, than some parts of Balkan, and thats true.
We dont have turkish like beats in Georgian folklore, while many Balkan nations have.

Ülev
09-20-2016, 07:14 PM
cosmo has his pms, that's all

user_
09-20-2016, 07:14 PM
Great Britain has more gingers than other parts of Europe, and Great Britan has lesser sun than other parts of Europe :) Coincidence?
http://a.pix.ge/o/bfhh3.jpg (http://pix.ge/)
And show me where i posted that Georgians are more European than Balkans?!?!
I posted Georgian folklore is less influenced by middle east, than some parts of Balkan, and thats true.
We dont have turkish like beats in Georgian folklore, while many Balkan nations have.

cosmoo
09-20-2016, 07:23 PM
Great Britain has more gingers than other parts of Europe, and Great Britan has lesser sun than other parts of Europe :) Coincidence?
Ireland has high concentration of Upper Palaeolithic (CM) phenotypes, and that's why they have so much red hair. Other Brits got it from their influence, plus from Anglo-Saxons which had significant concentration of CM types and rufosity. Finland also gets low amount of sunshine, but doesn't have many redheads, while other, more southern European countries do. Why? Because of UP European phenotypes. I already posted evidence from renowned anthropologist that hair of various pigmentation confers no evolutionary advantages. Heck, this is extremely logical, since hair cells are dead. By your logic Eskimos would be most red-haired on world, and yet they aren't.
Now show me anthropological study that examined Georgians and that proved that they have large levels of rufosity, and I will believe you. If you can't find proof, then simply admit you're wrong.

cosmo has his pms, that's all
Says man (or maybe a woman?) changing his profile info 24/7, afraid to even tell his real origins, let alone anything else...

Ülev
09-20-2016, 07:23 PM
Turks with red hair, maybe they are from northern Turkey?


https://youtu.be/B5SMn_hQx6w

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-20-2016, 07:24 PM
they'll all be destroyed

user_
09-20-2016, 07:45 PM
Ireland has high concentration of Upper Palaeolithic (CM) phenotypes, and that's why they have so much red hair. Other Brits got it from their influence, plus from Anglo-Saxons which had significant concentration of CM types and rufosity. Finland also gets low amount of sunshine, but doesn't have many redheads, while other, more southern European countries do. Why? Because of UP European phenotypes. I already posted evidence from renowned anthropologist that hair of various pigmentation confers no evolutionary advantages. Heck, this is extremely logical, since hair cells are dead. By your logic Eskimos would be most red-haired on world, and yet they aren't.
Now show me anthropological study that examined Georgians and that proved that they have large levels of rufosity, and I will believe you. If you can't find proof, then simply admit you're wrong.

Says man (or maybe a woman?) changing his profile info 24/7, afraid to even tell his real origins, let alone anything else...

I cant believe that red pigment in Britain and low sun irradiation is just coincidence.
If you look to the map, you'll see that Britain has extremely few sun, fewer than Scandinavia.
And if you look to the map again, you'll see that western part pf Georgia has as low sun irradiation, as Britain, and coincidentally most ginger Georgians are from this regions.

Escimos and other northern people need dark pigment to protect their eyes from snow blindness.

Aggressive norhtern climate produce escimos and chukcha like people, with dark hair and eyes.
Mild and rainy climate like in Britain produce red hair people :))

http://a.pix.ge/l/62tjf.jpg (http://pix.ge/)

Mikula
09-20-2016, 07:50 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQ2e54VCMAMmhJS.jpg

cosmoo
09-20-2016, 07:51 PM
I cant believe that red pigment in Britain and low sun irradiation is just coincidence.
If you look to the map, you'll see that Britain has extremely few sun, fewer than Scandinavia.
And if you look to the map again, you'll see that western part pf Georgia has as low sun irradiation, as Britain, and coincidentally most ginger Georgians are from this regions.

Escimos and other northern people need dark pigment to protect their eyes from snow blindness.

Aggressive norhtern climate produce escimos and chukcha like people, with dark hair and eyes.
Mild and rainy climate like in Britain produce red hair people :))

We are not talking about eyes here ("to protect them from snow blindness") , we are talking about HAIR. It is fact that rufosity appears everywhere in Europe where there is high concentration of CM phenotypes, and that it is completely unrelated to climate. For example, people from Finland, which is country with really low amounts of sunshine, have lower incidence of red hair than many European countries which have much more sunshine.
And your map even contradicts yourself, since Georgia on whole doesn't have low sun irradiation (that small blue speck is just laughable). Now show me anthropological study which shows Georgians as rufous or GTFO.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQ2e54VCMAMmhJS.jpg
Completely nonsensical map, without any source at all. "Boredpanda.com" doesn't sound like valid anthropological source to me, rofl.

Ülev
09-20-2016, 07:58 PM
Says man (or maybe a woman?) changing his profile info 24/7, afraid to even tell his real origins, let alone anything else...

watch out, soon I will be Montenegrin

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-20-2016, 08:00 PM
watch out, soon I will be Montenegrin

im british

Pahli
09-20-2016, 08:03 PM
Once again CHG master race

user_
09-20-2016, 08:03 PM
We are not talking about eyes here ("to protect them from snow blindness") , we are talking about HAIR. It is fact that rufosity appears everywhere in Europe where there is high concentration of CM phenotypes, and that it is completely unrelated to climate. For example, people from Finland, which is country with really low amounts of sunshine, have lower incidence of red hair than many European countries which have much more sunshine.
And your map even contradicts yourself, since Georgia on whole doesn't have low sun irradiation (that small blue speck is just laughable). Now show me anthropological study which shows Georgians as rufous or GTFO.


Completely nonsensical map, without any source at all. "Boredpanda.com" doesn't sound like valid anthropological source to me, rofl.

Okay, than trust anthropological study and map above your post, where Montenegro have less red head people, than Iraq does ;)

Ülev
09-20-2016, 08:05 PM
im british

kiitos, minä olen Suomalainen

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-20-2016, 08:07 PM
kiitos, minä olen Suomalainen

hehehe

thanks google translate!!

well, im actually finnic (not finnish) too! i only say im briitish because i am culturally. but genetically, i am finnic/celtic hybrid.

Ülev
09-20-2016, 08:13 PM
hehehe

thanks google translate!!

well, im actually finnic (not finnish) too! i only say im briitish because i am culturally. but genetically, i am finnic/celtic hybrid.

nah, actually I speak Finnish a little bit, I was living there for a short moment

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
09-20-2016, 08:15 PM
nah, actually I speak Finnish a little bit, I was living there for a short moment

wow

i like to travel

though i dont travel, i like the thought of it

i wanna live in another country some day

Ülev
09-20-2016, 08:15 PM
but to the topic, Gingers do have soul!!!


https://youtu.be/EY39fkmqKBM

Mikula
09-20-2016, 08:22 PM
We are not talking about eyes here ("to protect them from snow blindness") , we are talking about HAIR. It is fact that rufosity appears everywhere in Europe where there is high concentration of CM phenotypes, and that it is completely unrelated to climate. For example, people from Finland, which is country with really low amounts of sunshine, have lower incidence of red hair than many European countries which have much more sunshine.
And your map even contradicts yourself, since Georgia on whole doesn't have low sun irradiation (that small blue speck is just laughable). Now show me anthropological study which shows Georgians as rufous or GTFO.


Completely nonsensical map, without any source at all. "Boredpanda.com" doesn't sound like valid anthropological source to me, rofl.

The Guardian - Mapping redheads: which country has the most? (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/25/mapping-redheads-which-country-has-the-most)

cosmoo
09-20-2016, 08:24 PM
Okay, than trust anthropological study and map above your post, where Montenegro have less red head people, than Iraq does ;)

I didn't even claim that we were rufous, but now that you asked, you shall get it:

The rufosity of the Montenegrins, and their tendency to golden blondism , [B]is not only extreme, but is particularly unusual for this part of Europe. It will be recalled that the Serbians, traditionally close relatives of the Montenegrins, are much darker haired, and that the Slavs in general, when blond, favor the ash-blond side of the scale, being almost entirely deficient in rufosity.
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The Montenegrins are prevailingly dark brown in head hair color; in Old Montenegro some 45 per cent of adult males belong to this class, while 20 per cent are medium brown, and 26 per cent auburn, or brown with a perceptible reddish tinge. [...] The beards are much lighter than the head hair; among Old Montenegrins 43 per cent are reddish brown, and 8 per cent contain a pure red element...
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The Montenegrin of distinctive type, concentrated in Old Montenegro, is a very tall, large-bodied man, with a large, full-vaulted head abbreviated at the rear; his face is very broad, his jaw heavy, his brows overhanging, and his nose large and thick-tipped. It is this type which bears the rufosity in hair color, the freckling, and a tendency to light-mixed eye color.
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About 25 per cent show some freckling, as is to be expected in association with rufosity.

(source: Carleton Stevens Coon, The Races of Europe, 1939, chapter XII, section 12, link: http://theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII12.htm)

And as you can clearly see again, it's not connected to climate, but to European Upper Palaeolithic types.
Now, show me some study for Georgians xD
You thought that some random map from internet is anthropological study, lmao.


The Guardian - Mapping redheads: which country has the most? (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/25/mapping-redheads-which-country-has-the-most)
On the link you posted it says:
Figure 1.
Image: James McInerney, Source: no idea
Any kid with a computer can download Paint.NET and make maps.

user_
09-20-2016, 08:42 PM
I didn't even claim that we were rufous, but now that you asked, you shall get it:

The rufosity of the Montenegrins, and their tendency to golden blondism , [B]is not only extreme, but is particularly unusual for this part of Europe. It will be recalled that the Serbians, traditionally close relatives of the Montenegrins, are much darker haired, and that the Slavs in general, when blond, favor the ash-blond side of the scale, being almost entirely deficient in rufosity.
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The Montenegrins are prevailingly dark brown in head hair color; in Old Montenegro some 45 per cent of adult males belong to this class, while 20 per cent are medium brown, and 26 per cent auburn, or brown with a perceptible reddish tinge. [...] The beards are much lighter than the head hair; among Old Montenegrins 43 per cent are reddish brown, and 8 per cent contain a pure red element...
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The Montenegrin of distinctive type, concentrated in Old Montenegro, is a very tall, large-bodied man, with a large, full-vaulted head abbreviated at the rear; his face is very broad, his jaw heavy, his brows overhanging, and his nose large and thick-tipped. It is this type which bears the rufosity in hair color, the freckling, and a tendency to light-mixed eye color.

(source: Carleton Stevens Coon, The Races of Europe, 1939, chapter XII, section 12, link: http://theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII12.htm)

And as you can clearly see again, it's not connected to climate, but to European Upper Palaeolithic types.
Now, show me some study for Georgians xD
You thought that some random map from internet is anthropological study, lmao.

On the link you posted it says:
Figure 1.
Image: James McInerney, Source: no idea
Any kid with a computer can download Paint.NET and make maps.

Show me redhead Montenegrins, like i showed group of red head georgians.
Just interesting, how they look.
I had Montenegrin friend Mirko in University, and he looked so much Georgian, except his nose )))

Pahli
09-20-2016, 08:43 PM
Why are people jealous at CHG master race people? Fucking incels.

Rolnik szuka zony
09-20-2016, 08:48 PM
Ok folks. Here it is study for Georgian. From Abduselisvili (http://zenon.dainst.org/Search/Results?type=AllFields&filter%5B%5D=topic_facet%3A%22Europ%C3%A4ische+GUS-Staaten+(mit+Baltischen-+und+Kaukasus-Staaten)%22&filter%5B%5D=authorStr%3A%22Abduselisvili%2C+Malch az+Grigor%27evic%22) M., Antropologiâ drevnego i sovremennogo naseleniâ Gruzii, 1964. Study made in '50 on ethnic Georgians from many regions.

Indeed Imeretians have 4% red hair. For this region is quite elevated. The rest Georgian regional groups are with lower or non-existent rufosity percentage.
http://i66.tinypic.com/20h242p.jpg

09-20-2016, 09:51 PM
thanks for these pictures.))

Shepherd
09-20-2016, 11:02 PM
Here comes this guy again, trying to make out of Georgians something they are not xD
No anthropology study ever recorded increased rufosity in Georgia, here is what your average countrymen look like


Strong OWD detected.
Also, red hair outside Europe often is caused by completely different genes, just like blonde hair in Australian Aborigines and Melanesians:
True carroty hair, however, must be held to be a phenomenon which (like Albinism) may be found in any race (Rutilism, Erythrism). (Hans F.K. Gunther, The Racial Elements of European History, chapter II, part One)
strong butthurt detected

but maybe he's just shocked because living in monte negro he's never seen a redheaded person

Shepherd
09-20-2016, 11:05 PM
Your reasoning makes no sense at all, look at my reply above. There is not a single anthropological study which shows Georgians have significant degree of rufosity.

Lack of sunshine doesn't have anything to do with hair at all, because hair is made up of dead cells, and different pigmentation of hair contributes to absolutely nothing (especially not vitamin D production). Heck, this should be common knowledge by now.

Any country in Europe, northern Africa and (maybe) Middle East can make ginger festival and summon enough redheads for it, it ain't rocket science to do, but it doesn't mean that particular country has high occurrence of rufosity, lol.
What anthropological study has been known to focus a lot on Georgia anyway? Most of them study the higher populated countries around it and make assumptions on Georgia based on those countries.

Did Coon personally visit Georgia and count the redheads? :roll eyes:

But anyway, heres your map of Rufosity. Notice the upper half of Georgia
http://i.imgur.com/1NWRsAp.png

Böri
09-21-2016, 06:39 AM
If 1% of Georgia is red head, that makes 40k people actually and it's a lot. More or less same rate as Kurds or Levants though nothing especially different, also considering the Armenian like DNA of Georgians

Rolnik szuka zony
09-21-2016, 07:59 AM
Few posts earlier I posted stats for hair color in Georgia. Now I found rest of the table.
Based on actual survey from '50.
So most of Gergian regional groups have no read hair at all, but the rest have 1-4% of redheads.
Red is treated as shade of other colors not separately (only blond, brown, and dark sume to 100%). So it could be dark auburn in some cases and in others probably lighter. As in the case of 21 group, where blond is 1.2% and red the same. So probably those blond has reddish hue also.

So both statements that Georgia have no red hair at all and Georgia is full of them are wrong. In fact there is rather normal Easterrn European level of rufosity among them...

http://i66.tinypic.com/20h242p.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/bgr447.jpg

Rolnik szuka zony
09-21-2016, 08:08 AM
And the lightest Georgian group (only 77% dark hair) are Kachetians from Kvareli.

cosmoo
09-21-2016, 10:28 PM
So both statements that Georgia have no red hair at all and Georgia is full of them are wrong. In fact there is rather normal Easterrn European level of rufosity among them...

Exactly. And as we know from most of studies, eastern Europe is area of Europe that is extremely deficient in rufosity.


strong butthurt detected

but maybe he's just shocked because living in monte negro he's never seen a redheaded person
We've seen from downthumbing of you and your countrymen who's actually butthurt xD
Anyways, this isn't about us. We can be niggers for that instance, we were talking about Georgians, not us. But it seems that when you guys can't prove something, you immediately start with personal insulting concerning one's country. Another sign of major butthurt going on.
Even then, I have already shown you that according to anthropological studies we do have a lot of rufosity (in fact more than any other eastern Europeans), so bye bye.


What anthropological study has been known to focus a lot on Georgia anyway? Most of them study the higher populated countries around it and make assumptions on Georgia based on those countries.

Did Coon personally visit Georgia and count the redheads? :roll eyes:

But anyway, heres your map of Rufosity. Notice the upper half of Georgia

Coon used data which several other anthropologists collected, and he used data he collected on his own as well. He used a lot of different sources for each country he has written on (he used 5-6 different studies for my tiny country alone).

This map doesn't mean jackshit. Show me source for it, and I'll believe it. In this same one posted earlier it said "boredpanda.com", LOL. Everyone can make a map, and internet is full of shit maps.

I showed you relevant studies, you showed none, this discussion is over.

Shepherd
09-22-2016, 02:41 AM
Exactly. And as we know from most of studies, eastern Europe is area of Europe that is extremely deficient in rufosity.


We've seen from downthumbing of you and your countrymen who's actually butthurt xD
Anyways, this isn't about us. We can be niggers for that instance, we were talking about Georgians, not us. But it seems that when you guys can't prove something, you immediately start with personal insulting concerning one's country. Another sign of major butthurt going on.
Even then, I have already shown you that according to anthropological studies we do have a lot of rufosity (in fact more than any other eastern Europeans), so bye bye.

Youre the one who started with personal insults before I even got here, no one is trying to make it seem like average Georgians look Irish, but thats what you think OP was trying to do for some reason.

Your whole demeanor of bursting into an interesting thread and instantly claiming OWD and shit is quite hostile and insulting.

Myanthropologies
09-22-2016, 03:25 AM
So scary, looks like they're gonna eat my soul. Gingers don't have souls ya know.

Myanthropologies
09-22-2016, 03:29 AM
I think the light hair rate in Georgia is understudied. Lots of light brown and red hair there.

Adolfinus
10-12-2016, 07:20 PM
bullshit

adsız
10-12-2016, 07:24 PM
Yes! it's common.
I'm also ginger, but with caucasoid facial features, like many other redhead georgians :)

why you would not expect? Lot of Georgians lived in cloudy mountainous regions.

No, it is not common.

Böri
12-31-2017, 03:13 PM
No, it is not common.

It’s not like 10% but still present.

Sealin
07-07-2018, 08:56 PM
Oh, interesting. I didn't know that these kind of festivals existed :rolleyes: They look all gorgeous.

interes
09-16-2023, 06:25 PM
What anthropological study has been known to focus a lot on Georgia anyway? Most of them study the higher populated countries around it and make assumptions on Georgia based on those countries.

Did Coon personally visit Georgia and count the redheads? :roll eyes:

But anyway, heres your map of Rufosity. Notice the upper half of Georgia
http://i.imgur.com/1NWRsAp.png

its wrong imeretins or gurians have much morre red head than georgians who living northern ( svans , khevsurians or tushetians havel less ) lol

Abti
09-16-2023, 06:40 PM
The work of being descendants of Anatolians & Aryans and possibly also Galatia Celtic ancestry.

The Middle East broader is not different they too also descended from these peoples.