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Poise n Pen
09-24-2016, 07:36 AM
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)00087-7
http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/palaeolithicdna.shtml

I don't see any link here and this is big news to me. Not sure of the deatils though, I1 or something else?

GoneWithTheWind
09-24-2016, 07:42 AM
Your 2nd link says Italy. What's even more interesting ijk haplogrup found in Czech republic. And also a K found. Could IJK seperated in Europe or before entering Europe... Most likely before

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
09-24-2016, 07:43 AM
thats not surprising at all. Its a hunter gatherer mesolithic haplogroup in Europe

Ülev
09-24-2016, 07:48 AM
true Hebrews, just look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253


Haplogroup I-M253 arose from haplogroup I-M170, which appears ancient in Europe. The haplogroup was previously[year needed] thought to have originated 15,000 years ago in Iberia, but as of 2010 it was estimated to have originated between 4,000 - 5,000 years ago, in Chalcolithic Europe.[6] A new study in 2015 estimated the origin as between 3,470 and 5,070 years ago or between 3,180 and 3,760 years ago, using two different techniques.[7] It is suggested that it initially dispersed from the area that is now Denmark.[8] A 2014 study in Hungary uncovered remains of nine individuals from the Linear Pottery culture, one of whom was found to have carried the M253 SNP which defines Haplogroup I1. This culture is thought to have been present between 6,500 and 7,500 years ago.[9]

and read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_calendar


AM 5776 began at sunset on 13 September 2015 and will end at sunset on 2 October 2016.[2]

conclusions are clearly seen

Poise n Pen
09-24-2016, 07:57 AM
Your 2nd link says Italy. What's even more interesting ijk haplogrup found in Czech republic. And also a K found. Could IJK seperated in Europe or before entering Europe... Most likely before

Big surprise if so. I mean I would have thought that originally but it's been so long coming to get this dna I had given up on the idea.

Harkonnen
09-24-2016, 08:42 AM
Pestera cu Oase is actually K2a, or even K2a1(?). It's just that the dyke who runs ancestraljorneys omits certain results. See fex the Royal DNA section on her page.

Poise n Pen
09-24-2016, 08:52 AM
It's unfortunate people are like that. No big surprise for someone who has a site or blog though, unfortunately.