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09-24-2016, 09:23 AM
I was baffled by the fact that some of my closest oracles hypothetise me as 50%North European+25%North African +25% Jew and by my scoring of nearly 10% ashkenazi at FTDNA and Dna Land.
Herein MY CLOSEST ORACLE RESULTS (ONLY ORACLES WITHOUT ANCIENT POPULATIONS INCLUDED AND WITH GENETIC DISTANCE <3 AND WERE KEPT) :
1 Jew_France + Moroccan + CEU + Ukrainian-Center @ 0.927030 MDLP World
1 50% Icelandic +25% Libyan_Jew +25% Tunisian @ 2.518153 MDLP K23b
1 Algerian + BedouinA + British + Norwegian_West @ 2.072077 MDLP K23b
1 50% German-North +25% Jew_Italia +25% Moroccan @ 1.626955 MDLP World-22
1 Ashkenazim_V + Bulgarian + Moroccan + Swedish_V @ 1.338454 MDLP World-22
1 CEU + Morocco_Jews + Swedish + Sahara_OCC @ 1.618438 DODECAD V3
1 Orcadian + Moroccans + Morocco_Jews + Orkney @ 0.786353 DODECAD WORLD 9
1 Egyptans + Irish + Lithuanians + Moroccan @ 1.245447 DODECAD K7B
1 Algerian + British_Isles + Egyptans + Norwegian @ 2.582850 DODECAD K12B
1 morocco-jew + orcadian + saharawi + ukranian @ 1.484872 HARAPPA
1 Scottish_West + Ukrainian + Tunisian + Egyptian @ 1.474127 puntDNAL K10 Ancient
1 50% Dutch_North +25% Egyptian +25% Tunisian @ 1.878823 puntDNAL K12 Modern
1 BedouinA + German_North + Scottish_West + Tunisian @ 1.355784 puntDNAL K12 Modern
1 Belarusian + Austrian + Ashkenazy_Jew + Mozabite_Berber @ 2.520722 puntDNAL K15
1 Maltese + Russian + Spanish + Yemen @ 2.900741 GEDROSIA Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF
1 50% BedouinA +50% Georgian_Jew @ 0.254189 Gedrosia K3
1 50% Armenian +25% Saudi +25% Yemen @ 0.000000 Gedrosia K3
1 French_South + Norwegian + Turkish + Yemen @ 2.734444 Gedrosia K11
To complicate things furthermore n-Monte analysis of my FTDNA raw data performed by Mr.Vadim Verenich gave me these intriguing results:
Now, the most intriguing part (nMonte2 results):
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
Amerindian Ancestor Steppe Indian Arctic
kikk 0.00650000 0.0000000 0.14430000 0.00050000 0.00000000
fitted 0.00505615 0.0019352 0.14238905 0.00361445 0.00249015
dif -0.00144385 0.0019352 -0.00191095 0.00311445 0.00249015
Australian Caucasian EastAfrican NorthEastEuropean
kikk 0.0000000 0.2053000 0.0352000 0.1758000
fitted 0.0026998 0.2033645 0.0331972 0.1736729
dif 0.0026998 -0.0019355 -0.0020028 -0.0021271
NearEast Neolithic NorthAfrican Oceanic Siberian
kikk 0.07530000 0.2207000 0.1137000 0.00630000 0.0000000
fitted 0.07349245 0.2190871 0.1118342 0.00479935 0.0043526
dif -0.00180755 -0.0016129 -0.0018658 -0.00150065 0.0043526
SouthEastAsian Subsaharian
kikk 0.00000000 0.01640000
fitted 0.00280595 0.01524235
dif 0.00280595 -0.00115765
[1] "distance%=0.9204 / distance=0.009204"
kikk
"Orcadian"15.6
"Tunisian_Jewish"12
"Ukrainian_West"11.25
"English_Kent_GBR"7.95
"Spanish_Canarias_IBS"7.1
"Polish_East"6.2
"Burbur_WGA"5.6
"Mozabite"5.2
"Lithuanian"4.05
"Spaniards"3.4
"BedouinB"3.25
"Yemenite_Jew"2.6
"Shaigi_WGA"2.45
"Ethiopian_Jew"2.35
"Italy_Abruzzo"1.65
"Somali"1.4
"Libyan_Jew"1.3
"Spanish_Extremadura_IBS"0.75
"Bulgarians"0.7
"Croatian"0.7
"Italian_Jewish"0.7
"Afar_WGA"0.6
"Macedonians"0.5
"Saharawi"0.5
"Croat-Croatia"0.3
"Icelandic"0.25
"Italian_Bergamo"0.25
"Kurd_WGA"0.2
"Montenegrian"0.2
"Kosovar"0.15
"Swedish"0.15
"SephardiJewTurkey"0.1
"Sorb"0.1
"Spanish_Andalucia_IBS"0.1
"Corsican"0.05
"French"0.05
"Italian_Tuscan"0.05
"Maltese"0.05
"Moroccan_Jew"0.05
"Portuguese"0.05
"Serbian_BH"0.05
"Sicilian"0.05
nMonte2 restricted
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
Amerindian Ancestor Steppe Indian Arctic
kikk 0.0065000 0.0000000 0.1443000 0.00050000 0.00000000
fitted 0.0049708 0.0016113 0.1426526 0.00333625 0.00191365
dif -0.0015292 0.0016113 -0.0016474 0.00283625 0.00191365
Australian Caucasian EastAfrican NorthEastEuropean
kikk 0.0000000 0.20530000 0.03520000 0.1758000
fitted 0.0025513 0.20353755 0.03340935 0.1737569
dif 0.0025513 -0.00176245 -0.00179065 -0.0020431
NearEast Neolithic NorthAfrican Oceanic Siberian
kikk 0.07530000 0.22070000 0.11370000 0.00630000 0.0000000
fitted 0.07343645 0.21906095 0.11188645 0.00522775 0.0044359
dif -0.00186355 -0.00163905 -0.00181355 -0.00107225 0.0044359
SouthEastAsian Subsaharian
kikk 0.00000000 0.01640000
fitted 0.00311585 0.01510245
dif 0.00311585 -0.00129755
[1] "distance%=0.8833 / distance=0.008833"
kikk
"Tunisian_Jewish"19.65
"Ukrainian_West"18.7
"Orcadian"18.35
"Spanish_Canarias_IBS"11.1
"English_Kent_GBR"8.3
"Mozabite"5.8
"Burbur_WGA"4.85
"BedouinB"4.2
"Somali"3
"Lithuanian"2.25
"Ethiopian_Jew"1.4
"Shaigi_WGA"1.15
"Spaniards"0.9
"Yemenite_Jew"0.35
"Italy_Abruzzo"0
"Libyan_Jew"0
"Polish_East"0
Afaik I dont have Jewish ancestors (all I came out with is that some of my northafrican ancestors bear surnames common to both Muslims and Jews such as Kammun and Besbes)
Do you agree with me that the showing up of jews in oracles of a half European half Northafrican mixed person is a hiatus due to calcs biase to perceive the combination of arab+european admixture as Jewish?
Herein MY CLOSEST ORACLE RESULTS (ONLY ORACLES WITHOUT ANCIENT POPULATIONS INCLUDED AND WITH GENETIC DISTANCE <3 AND WERE KEPT) :
1 Jew_France + Moroccan + CEU + Ukrainian-Center @ 0.927030 MDLP World
1 50% Icelandic +25% Libyan_Jew +25% Tunisian @ 2.518153 MDLP K23b
1 Algerian + BedouinA + British + Norwegian_West @ 2.072077 MDLP K23b
1 50% German-North +25% Jew_Italia +25% Moroccan @ 1.626955 MDLP World-22
1 Ashkenazim_V + Bulgarian + Moroccan + Swedish_V @ 1.338454 MDLP World-22
1 CEU + Morocco_Jews + Swedish + Sahara_OCC @ 1.618438 DODECAD V3
1 Orcadian + Moroccans + Morocco_Jews + Orkney @ 0.786353 DODECAD WORLD 9
1 Egyptans + Irish + Lithuanians + Moroccan @ 1.245447 DODECAD K7B
1 Algerian + British_Isles + Egyptans + Norwegian @ 2.582850 DODECAD K12B
1 morocco-jew + orcadian + saharawi + ukranian @ 1.484872 HARAPPA
1 Scottish_West + Ukrainian + Tunisian + Egyptian @ 1.474127 puntDNAL K10 Ancient
1 50% Dutch_North +25% Egyptian +25% Tunisian @ 1.878823 puntDNAL K12 Modern
1 BedouinA + German_North + Scottish_West + Tunisian @ 1.355784 puntDNAL K12 Modern
1 Belarusian + Austrian + Ashkenazy_Jew + Mozabite_Berber @ 2.520722 puntDNAL K15
1 Maltese + Russian + Spanish + Yemen @ 2.900741 GEDROSIA Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF
1 50% BedouinA +50% Georgian_Jew @ 0.254189 Gedrosia K3
1 50% Armenian +25% Saudi +25% Yemen @ 0.000000 Gedrosia K3
1 French_South + Norwegian + Turkish + Yemen @ 2.734444 Gedrosia K11
To complicate things furthermore n-Monte analysis of my FTDNA raw data performed by Mr.Vadim Verenich gave me these intriguing results:
Now, the most intriguing part (nMonte2 results):
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
Amerindian Ancestor Steppe Indian Arctic
kikk 0.00650000 0.0000000 0.14430000 0.00050000 0.00000000
fitted 0.00505615 0.0019352 0.14238905 0.00361445 0.00249015
dif -0.00144385 0.0019352 -0.00191095 0.00311445 0.00249015
Australian Caucasian EastAfrican NorthEastEuropean
kikk 0.0000000 0.2053000 0.0352000 0.1758000
fitted 0.0026998 0.2033645 0.0331972 0.1736729
dif 0.0026998 -0.0019355 -0.0020028 -0.0021271
NearEast Neolithic NorthAfrican Oceanic Siberian
kikk 0.07530000 0.2207000 0.1137000 0.00630000 0.0000000
fitted 0.07349245 0.2190871 0.1118342 0.00479935 0.0043526
dif -0.00180755 -0.0016129 -0.0018658 -0.00150065 0.0043526
SouthEastAsian Subsaharian
kikk 0.00000000 0.01640000
fitted 0.00280595 0.01524235
dif 0.00280595 -0.00115765
[1] "distance%=0.9204 / distance=0.009204"
kikk
"Orcadian"15.6
"Tunisian_Jewish"12
"Ukrainian_West"11.25
"English_Kent_GBR"7.95
"Spanish_Canarias_IBS"7.1
"Polish_East"6.2
"Burbur_WGA"5.6
"Mozabite"5.2
"Lithuanian"4.05
"Spaniards"3.4
"BedouinB"3.25
"Yemenite_Jew"2.6
"Shaigi_WGA"2.45
"Ethiopian_Jew"2.35
"Italy_Abruzzo"1.65
"Somali"1.4
"Libyan_Jew"1.3
"Spanish_Extremadura_IBS"0.75
"Bulgarians"0.7
"Croatian"0.7
"Italian_Jewish"0.7
"Afar_WGA"0.6
"Macedonians"0.5
"Saharawi"0.5
"Croat-Croatia"0.3
"Icelandic"0.25
"Italian_Bergamo"0.25
"Kurd_WGA"0.2
"Montenegrian"0.2
"Kosovar"0.15
"Swedish"0.15
"SephardiJewTurkey"0.1
"Sorb"0.1
"Spanish_Andalucia_IBS"0.1
"Corsican"0.05
"French"0.05
"Italian_Tuscan"0.05
"Maltese"0.05
"Moroccan_Jew"0.05
"Portuguese"0.05
"Serbian_BH"0.05
"Sicilian"0.05
nMonte2 restricted
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
Amerindian Ancestor Steppe Indian Arctic
kikk 0.0065000 0.0000000 0.1443000 0.00050000 0.00000000
fitted 0.0049708 0.0016113 0.1426526 0.00333625 0.00191365
dif -0.0015292 0.0016113 -0.0016474 0.00283625 0.00191365
Australian Caucasian EastAfrican NorthEastEuropean
kikk 0.0000000 0.20530000 0.03520000 0.1758000
fitted 0.0025513 0.20353755 0.03340935 0.1737569
dif 0.0025513 -0.00176245 -0.00179065 -0.0020431
NearEast Neolithic NorthAfrican Oceanic Siberian
kikk 0.07530000 0.22070000 0.11370000 0.00630000 0.0000000
fitted 0.07343645 0.21906095 0.11188645 0.00522775 0.0044359
dif -0.00186355 -0.00163905 -0.00181355 -0.00107225 0.0044359
SouthEastAsian Subsaharian
kikk 0.00000000 0.01640000
fitted 0.00311585 0.01510245
dif 0.00311585 -0.00129755
[1] "distance%=0.8833 / distance=0.008833"
kikk
"Tunisian_Jewish"19.65
"Ukrainian_West"18.7
"Orcadian"18.35
"Spanish_Canarias_IBS"11.1
"English_Kent_GBR"8.3
"Mozabite"5.8
"Burbur_WGA"4.85
"BedouinB"4.2
"Somali"3
"Lithuanian"2.25
"Ethiopian_Jew"1.4
"Shaigi_WGA"1.15
"Spaniards"0.9
"Yemenite_Jew"0.35
"Italy_Abruzzo"0
"Libyan_Jew"0
"Polish_East"0
Afaik I dont have Jewish ancestors (all I came out with is that some of my northafrican ancestors bear surnames common to both Muslims and Jews such as Kammun and Besbes)
Do you agree with me that the showing up of jews in oracles of a half European half Northafrican mixed person is a hiatus due to calcs biase to perceive the combination of arab+european admixture as Jewish?