Gypsy Results with pictures

[Mortimer]

I dont have many though,but Id guess it would be interesting. There is such a thread for latinos too. And Rmüller asked me to do it.

I group them from least to most european, in that order

Zac
http://s12.postimg.org/6ewwikmq5/Zac_ACresults.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/8odl269zr/23andmezac2.jpg

Iona
http://s9.postimg.org/jujk55ka7/Iona23andme_AC.jpg
http://s22.postimg.org/t4w7xpc9t/Ionna23andme.jpg

Simina
http://s14.postimg.org/xzqz34e69/Simina23andme_AC.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/adlc5ivu5/Simina23andme.jpg

Angela
http://s17.postimg.org/a9pez40jj/Angela23andme_AC.jpg
http://s21.postimg.org/rwzmp37l3/Angela23andme.jpg

Catalin
http://s21.postimg.org/hb39crfzb/23andme_Catalin_AC.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/d5acm3al9/Catalin23andme.jpg

George
http://s14.postimg.org/ir47nayr5/Gheorge23andme_AC.jpg
http://s16.postimg.org/tts85gjvp/Gheorge23andme.jpg

Natalija
http://s9.postimg.org/7st884hdb/Natalija_ACresults.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/6edh3uqcj/Natalija23andme.jpg

John
http://s17.postimg.org/56cz50k3j/John_AC23andme.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/g3f2xz8dp/John23andme_AC.jpg

Stevan, one outlier, he is half korean half gypsy.
http://s16.postimg.org/7andao5h1/Steven23andme_AC.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/rc7spqshp/Steven23andme.jpg

[Mortimer]

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[RMuller]

Cool thread.:thumb001:

[RMuller]

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How much European did you say you are?

[Mortimer]

How much European did you say you are?

60-70%

[Light]

Cool! Thanks for sharing!

I think you actualy can't call some of them gypsies because they have so little south asian admixture.

[Mortimer]

Cool! Thanks for sharing!

I think you actualy can't call some of them gypsies because they have so little south asian admixture.

which ones?

[Mortimer]

Cool! Thanks for sharing!

I think you actualy can't call some of them gypsies because they have so little south asian admixture.

well some who have fewer southasian have more mideastern, gypsy results here are split into mideastern and southasian. i choose only self-identified gypsies and part gypsies, i didnt choose anyone with a little southasian admixture who didnt claimed to be gypsy.

[Light]

which ones?

John for example. He is 93.6% European and only 4.6% South Asian.

[Mortimer]

John for example. He is 93.6% European and only 4.6% South Asian.

He is a british romanichal. He is a self-identified romani and comes from a romany family with long tradition and history. His surname is commong among british romani. Romanichal are more european then the rest of the gypsies. If you ask him what he is he will tell you that he is a gypsy. not even mixed gypsy, but full gypsy (he is full romanichal)

[Mortimer]

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[used2bwhite]

Interesting thread!

[Iloko]

I'm interested in Gypsy mythologies. I read about something that if you ever steal from a Gypsy woman that she possess the mystical powers to be able to put an evil curse on you lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_Me_to_Hell

But judging from these results posted it appears Gypsies are a mix of South Asian + Middle-Eastern + Balkan types, not necessarily one pure component. Interesting. But I wonder how their 23andme chromosome-painting looks like?

[Mortimer]

I'm interested in Gypsy mythologies. I read about something that if you ever steal from a Gypsy woman that she possess the mystical powers to be able to put an evil curse on you lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_Me_to_Hell

But judging from these results posted it appears Gypsies are a mix of South Asian + Middle-Eastern + Balkan types, not necessarily one pure component. Interesting. But I wonder how their 23andme chromosome-painting looks like?

add me on 23andme and check it out. Im InquiringMind

[Iloko]

add me on 23andme and check it out. Im InquiringMind
Ok I will

[Mikula]

Perhaps it could be off-topic, but genealogy sometimes proves that Roma population of Central Europe sometimes mixed with locals.
Radek Banga (https://www.discogs.com/artist/1556700-Radoslav-Banga)(nick Gipsy.CZ) is a Roma musician from Czech Republic, his ancestors were Roma / Gypsies from Slovakia.
He participated at TV show Tajemství rodu (Czech version of Who dou you think you are).
He said that in his family appeared persons with blue eyes, and he expected that he will find some "gádžo" (non-Roma) person, among his ancestrors.
Actually he got to know that one of his great-grandmothers was a white Slovak girl who married a Gypsy, see the movie: 46:34-46:51 (https://vimeo.com/64867689)

[Kamal900]

Good looking results and people. Love gypsies/Doma/Roma people.

[Mortimer]

Good looking results and people. Love gypsies/Doma/Roma people.

thank you, you are my brother and cool

[Governor]

Which haplogroup usually do Balkan Gypsies have?

[Mortimer]

Which haplogroup usually do Balkan Gypsies have?

the core haplogroup associated with their origins is y-dna H1 but they have others too

[Kamal900]

Zac looks very middle eastern to me.

[Purohit ji]

Zac looks very middle eastern to me.

Zac can also pass in india easily

[Kamal900]

Zac can also pass in india easily

Of course he can. He passes in both worlds quite easily.

[LoLeL]

Interesting thread. Their results match with their ethnogenesis (South Asia -> Middle East -> Europe).

[shahenshah]

Gypsies can call themselves both European,Middle Eastern and South Asian in the same time and thats cool.

[Iloko]

I will read this later: http://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(12)01260-2.pdf ..Their genetics looks interesting.

[aherne]

I will read this later: http://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(12)01260-2.pdf ..Their genetics looks interesting.

This shows their origin is in modern Pakistan (Punjab, Sindh, Kashmir) as escapees from mass islamization. Therefore their genetic results should be matched with Punjabis: based on that map full gypsies are 60-70% Indian, which accords with their looks

[MINARDOWICZ]

I am sharing with the 5th one you posted, "Angela" on 23&me. What a strange coincidence!!

[MINARDOWICZ]

John for example. He is 93.6% European and only 4.6% South Asian.

If you add up the other components like S European and MENA, he is likely about 1/8 genetically like other Romani (romanichal are so mixed).

[Bobby Martnen]

I dont have many though,but Id guess it would be interesting. There is such a thread for latinos too. And Rmüller asked me to do it.

I group them from least to most european, in that order

Zac
http://s12.postimg.org/6ewwikmq5/Zac_ACresults.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/8odl269zr/23andmezac2.jpg

Iona
http://s9.postimg.org/jujk55ka7/Iona23andme_AC.jpg
http://s22.postimg.org/t4w7xpc9t/Ionna23andme.jpg

Simina
http://s14.postimg.org/xzqz34e69/Simina23andme_AC.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/adlc5ivu5/Simina23andme.jpg

Angela
http://s17.postimg.org/a9pez40jj/Angela23andme_AC.jpg
http://s21.postimg.org/rwzmp37l3/Angela23andme.jpg

Catalin
http://s21.postimg.org/hb39crfzb/23andme_Catalin_AC.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/d5acm3al9/Catalin23andme.jpg

George
http://s14.postimg.org/ir47nayr5/Gheorge23andme_AC.jpg
http://s16.postimg.org/tts85gjvp/Gheorge23andme.jpg

Natalija
http://s9.postimg.org/7st884hdb/Natalija_ACresults.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/6edh3uqcj/Natalija23andme.jpg

John
http://s17.postimg.org/56cz50k3j/John_AC23andme.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/g3f2xz8dp/John23andme_AC.jpg

Stevan, one outlier, he is half korean half gypsy.
http://s16.postimg.org/7andao5h1/Steven23andme_AC.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/rc7spqshp/Steven23andme.jpg

Are some of these people only partially Gypsy?

Also, Mortimer what do your 23andme results look like?

[Mortimer]

Are some of these people only partially Gypsy?

Also, Mortimer what do your 23andme results look like?

https://s1.postimg.org/2aqytyfsen/Ancestry_Compositionnewexperience.jpg