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curupira
09-29-2016, 12:03 AM
Quite interesting, aren't they? :thumb001:

EUtest Oracle results:


EUtest Oracle results

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1EAST_EURO33.94
2SIBERIAN25.28
3SOUTH_BALTIC14.98
4NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO12.21
5ATLANTIC10.28
6EAST_ASIAN1.67
7WEST_AFRICAN0.98
8EAST_AFRICAN0.66

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Komi14.28
2Udmurt15.12
3Erzya23.99
4East_Finnish24.74
5East_Russian25.09
6North_Russian25.22
7South_Finnish28.56
8West_Russian32.61
9Ukrainian-Russian33.01
10North_Swedish34.51
11EE34.64
12Northwest_Russian34.75
13Belorussian35.06
14UA35.25
15PL35.4
16HU37.49
17LIT37.57
18KZ38.09
19Serbian38.74
20AT39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 62%North_Russian+38%Selkup@6.04
2 74.4%Udmurt+25.6%Selkup@6.17
3 63.4%Erzya+36.6%Selkup@6.42
4 62.6%East_Finnish+37.4%Selkup@6.43
5 62.3%East_Russian+37.7%Selkup@6.79
6 76.1%Komi+23.9%Selkup@6.82
7 86.7%Udmurt+13.3%Nganassan@7.69
8 59.1%South_Finnish+40.9%Selkup@7.92
9 83.6%Udmurt+16.4%Chukchi@8.05
10 84.3%Udmurt+15.7%Koryak@8.05
11 54.1%EE+45.9%Selkup@8.36
12 85%Komi+15%Chukchi@8.46
13 85.7%Komi+14.3%Koryak@8.54
14 88.2%Komi+11.8%Nganassan@8.62
15 55.7%West_Russian+44.3%Selkup@8.89
16 54%Northwest_Russian+46%Selkup@8.97
17 53.8%Belorussian+46.2%Selkup@9.08
18 55.4%Ukrainian-Russian+44.6%Selkup@9.15
19 78.4%North_Russian+21.6%Nganassan@9.71
20 79.4%Erzya+20.6%Nganassan@9.78


EUtest 4-Ancestors Oracle

EUtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1EAST_EURO33.94
2SIBERIAN25.28
3SOUTH_BALTIC14.98
4NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO12.21
5ATLANTIC10.28
6EAST_ASIAN1.67


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Komi @ 13.964991
2 Udmurt @ 14.299222
3 Erzya @ 22.399822
4 East_Russian @ 23.397924
5 North_Russian @ 23.474998
6 East_Finnish @ 23.679682
7 South_Finnish @ 27.800812
8 West_Russian @ 31.053610
9 Ukrainian-Russian @ 31.300018
10 Northwest_Russian @ 33.293659
11 EE @ 33.438686
12 Belorussian @ 33.577019
13 UA @ 33.944675
14 PL @ 34.058773
15 North_Swedish @ 34.381725
16 LIT @ 36.682125
17 Selkup @ 37.156391
18 HU @ 37.282078
19 KZ @ 38.185596
20 Serbian @ 38.936920

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% EE +50% Selkup @ 9.524814


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Komi +25% Selkup +25% Udmurt @ 7.091388


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 East_Finnish + Selkup + Udmurt + Udmurt @ 6.383100
2 East_Finnish + Komi + Selkup + Udmurt @ 6.662943
3 North_Russian + Selkup + Udmurt + Udmurt @ 6.739915
4 Komi + North_Russian + Selkup + Udmurt @ 6.781054
5 Komi + Selkup + Udmurt + Udmurt @ 6.825252
6 Selkup + South_Finnish + Udmurt + Udmurt @ 6.858149
7 Selkup + Udmurt + Udmurt + Udmurt @ 6.903999
8 Komi + Komi + Selkup + Udmurt @ 7.091388
9 Komi + Selkup + South_Finnish + Udmurt @ 7.101744
10 East_Russian + Selkup + Udmurt + Udmurt @ 7.159686
11 Komi + Komi + North_Russian + Selkup @ 7.160079
12 Erzya + Komi + Selkup + Udmurt @ 7.200747
13 Erzya + Selkup + Udmurt + Udmurt @ 7.223562
14 East_Russian + Komi + Selkup + Udmurt @ 7.243420
15 East_Finnish + Komi + Komi + Selkup @ 7.268037
16 Erzya + Komi + Komi + Selkup @ 7.503354
17 East_Russian + Komi + Komi + Selkup @ 7.645380
18 Komi + Komi + Selkup + South_Finnish @ 7.652911
19 East_Finnish + Erzya + Selkup + Udmurt @ 7.654217
20 East_Finnish + North_Russian + Selkup + Udmurt @ 7.660334

Done.

Elapsed time 0.2122 seconds. Dodecad K12b Oracle results:


Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1North_European52.92
2Siberian22.05
3Atlantic_Med10.25
4East_Asian6.28
5Sub_Saharan2.98
6Gedrosia2.65
7South_Asian1.15
8Southeast_Asian1.01
9East_African0.7

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Chuvashs (Behar)11
2Russian (HGDP)22.38
3Mordovians (Yunusbayev)23.77
4FIN30 (1000Genomes)26.22
5Russian (Dodecad)27.17
6Finnish (Dodecad)27.89
7Russian_B (Behar)28.31
8Mixed_Slav (Dodecad)28.75
9Ukranians (Yunusbayev)29.99
10Polish (Dodecad)30.36
11Belorussian (Behar)31.09
12Hungarians (Behar)32.47
13Swedish (Dodecad)32.7
14Lithuanian (Dodecad)32.84
15Norwegian (Dodecad)34.25
16Lithuanians (Behar)34.33
17German (Dodecad)34.38
18Dutch (Dodecad)38.06
19Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)38.18
20CEU30 (1000Genomes)39.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 75.2%FIN30 (1000Genomes)+24.8%Yakut (HGDP)@5.85
2 70.5%FIN30 (1000Genomes)+29.5%Tuva (Rasmussen)@6.36
3 74.1%Finnish (Dodecad)+25.9%Yakut (HGDP)@6.45
4 75.6%FIN30 (1000Genomes)+24.4%Yukagir (Rasmussen)@6.69
5 69.2%Finnish (Dodecad)+30.8%Tuva (Rasmussen)@6.86
6 69.8%Lithuanians (Behar)+30.2%Yakut (HGDP)@6.99
7 76.7%FIN30 (1000Genomes)+23.3%Evenk (Rasmussen)@7.03
8 74.4%Finnish (Dodecad)+25.6%Yukagir (Rasmussen)@7.3
9 73.8%FIN30 (1000Genomes)+26.2%Dolgan (Rasmussen)@7.36
10 70%Lithuanians (Behar)+30%Yukagir (Rasmussen)@7.41
11 67.5%FIN30 (1000Genomes)+32.5%Altai (Rasmussen)@7.57
12 75.6%Finnish (Dodecad)+24.4%Evenk (Rasmussen)@7.71
13 71.3%Lithuanians (Behar)+28.7%Evenk (Rasmussen)@7.72
14 72.2%FIN30 (1000Genomes)+27.8%Buryat (Rasmussen)@7.77
15 66%Finnish (Dodecad)+34%Altai (Rasmussen)@7.89
16 72.6%Finnish (Dodecad)+27.4%Dolgan (Rasmussen)@7.95
17 70.9%Lithuanian (Dodecad)+29.1%Yakut (HGDP)@7.96
18 78.8%Russian (HGDP)+21.2%Yakut (HGDP)@8
19 79%Russian (HGDP)+21%Yukagir (Rasmussen)@8.11
20 71.1%Lithuanian (Dodecad)+28.9%Yukagir (Rasmussen)@8.16


Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1North_European52.92
2Siberian22.05
3Atlantic_Med10.25
4East_Asian6.28
5Sub_Saharan2.98
6Gedrosia2.65
7South_Asian1.15
8Southeast_Asian1.01

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chuvashs @ 11.832398
2 Russian @ 22.493855
3 Mordovians @ 23.906885
4 FIN30 @ 26.798918
5 Russian @ 27.180740
6 Russian_B @ 28.558954
7 Finnish @ 28.634939
8 Mixed_Slav @ 28.673565
9 Ukranians @ 30.055437
10 Polish @ 30.118151
11 Belorussian @ 31.128338
12 Swedish @ 32.663559
13 Hungarians @ 32.822582
14 Lithuanian @ 33.058243
15 Norwegian @ 34.515095
16 German @ 34.609623
17 Lithuanians @ 34.778652
18 Dutch @ 38.720879
19 Mixed_Germanic @ 38.889748
20 CEU30 @ 40.613102

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chuvashs +50% Chuvashs @ 11.832398


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% FIN30 +25% FIN30 +25% Yakut @ 5.519077


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 FIN30 + FIN30 + FIN30 + Yakut @ 5.519077
2 FIN30 + FIN30 + Russian + Yakut @ 5.658966
3 FIN30 + FIN30 + Russian + Yakut @ 5.679262
4 FIN30 + Finnish + Russian + Yakut @ 5.729127
5 FIN30 + FIN30 + Finnish + Yakut @ 5.762564
6 FIN30 + FIN30 + Mordovians + Yakut @ 5.773994
7 FIN30 + Finnish + Russian + Yakut @ 5.780662
8 FIN30 + Finnish + Mordovians + Yakut @ 5.813045
9 Finnish + Finnish + Russian + Yakut @ 5.856310
10 Finnish + Finnish + Mordovians + Yakut @ 5.901878
11 FIN30 + FIN30 + Lithuanian + Yakut @ 5.903740
12 Finnish + Finnish + Russian + Yakut @ 5.934350
13 FIN30 + FIN30 + Lithuanians + Yakut @ 6.006109
14 Chuvashs + Finnish + Finnish + Yukagir @ 6.007059
15 FIN30 + Finnish + Finnish + Yakut @ 6.049306
16 FIN30 + FIN30 + Mixed_Slav + Yakut @ 6.072142
17 Chuvashs + FIN30 + Finnish + Yukagir @ 6.075535
18 FIN30 + Finnish + Mixed_Slav + Yakut @ 6.121606
19 FIN30 + FIN30 + Russian_B + Yakut @ 6.130524
20 Belorussian + FIN30 + FIN30 + Yakut @ 6.136892

Done.

Elapsed time 2.6213 seconds. Eurogenes k13:


Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1Baltic45.29
2Siberian24.88
3North_Atlantic21.47
4Amerindian3.29
5South_Asian1.68
6East_Asian1.53
7Sub-Saharan1.2
8Oceanian0.35
9West_Asian0.3

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Mari9.8
2Chuvash11.05
3Tatar18.09
4East_Finnish19.68
5Erzya20.95
6Kargopol_Russian21
7Finnish22.64
8Estonian25.54
9Southwest_Russian26.27
10Southwest_Finnish26.33
11Estonian_Polish26.84
12Belorussian27.18
13Ukrainian_Belgorod27.48
14Russian_Smolensk27.62
15Lithuanian27.84
16Ukrainian28.12
17Ukrainian_Lviv28.36
18Polish28.8
19South_Polish29.13
20La_Brana-129.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 69.3%East_Finnish+30.7%Selkup@4.82
2 69.4%East_Finnish+30.6%Ket@5.27
3 63.4%Estonian+36.6%Selkup@6.11
4 66.4%Finnish+33.6%Selkup@6.21
5 61.3%Lithuanian+38.7%Selkup@6.61
6 63.4%Estonian+36.6%Ket@6.69
7 66.5%Finnish+33.5%Ket@6.86
8 72.6%Mari+27.4%East_Finnish@6.91
9 75.8%Mari+24.2%Finnish@6.97
10 61.3%Lithuanian+38.7%Ket@6.97
11 77.7%East_Finnish+22.3%Dolgan@7.08
12 80.9%Mari+19.1%La_Brana-1@7.15
13 79.2%Mari+20.8%Southwest_Finnish@7.21
14 79.6%East_Finnish+20.4%Evens@7.28
15 79.2%East_Finnish+20.8%Evenki@7.34
16 79.4%Mari+20.6%Estonian@7.48
17 83.5%Mari+16.5%North_Swedish@7.62
18 77.3%East_Finnish+22.7%Koryak@7.77
19 70.6%Lithuanian+29.4%Dolgan@7.98
20 86.9%Mari+13.1%Swedish@8.08


Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1Baltic45.29
2Siberian24.88
3North_Atlantic21.47
4Amerindian3.29
5South_Asian1.68
6East_Asian1.53
7Sub-Saharan1.20


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mari @ 11.231953
2 Chuvash @ 12.333737
3 Tatar @ 19.802999
4 East_Finnish @ 19.992474
5 Kargopol_Russian @ 21.095182
6 Erzya @ 21.199106
7 Finnish @ 23.199905
8 Estonian @ 25.967056
9 Southwest_Russian @ 26.452557
10 Estonian_Polish @ 26.927103
11 Belorussian @ 27.293833
12 Southwest_Finnish @ 27.434757
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 27.669825
14 Russian_Smolensk @ 27.714188
15 Lithuanian @ 28.007650
16 Ukrainian @ 28.517115
17 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 28.794773
18 Polish @ 29.073448
19 La_Brana-1 @ 29.508001
20 South_Polish @ 29.670759

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Finnish +50% Mari @ 9.082389


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Finnish +25% Mari +25% Selkup @ 6.201004


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 East_Finnish + Estonian + Mari + Selkup @ 6.182723
2 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Mari + Selkup @ 6.201004
3 East_Finnish + Finnish + Mari + Selkup @ 6.204380
4 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Selkup @ 6.230320
5 Chuvash + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Selkup @ 6.294711
6 Estonian + Finnish + Mari + Selkup @ 6.358221
7 Finnish + Finnish + Mari + Selkup @ 6.422235
8 East_Finnish + La_Brana-1 + Mari + Selkup @ 6.466443
9 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Ket + Mari @ 6.500505
10 Chuvash + East_Finnish + Finnish + Selkup @ 6.506565
11 East_Finnish + Estonian + Ket + Mari @ 6.530151
12 East_Finnish + Lithuanian + Mari + Selkup @ 6.539822
13 Estonian + Estonian + Mari + Selkup @ 6.549804
14 Finnish + Lithuanian + Mari + Selkup @ 6.578066
15 East_Finnish + Finnish + Ket + Mari @ 6.594111
16 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Ket @ 6.614462
17 Chuvash + East_Finnish + Estonian + Selkup @ 6.656024
18 Chuvash + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Ket @ 6.663435
19 Estonian + La_Brana-1 + Mari + Selkup @ 6.673038
20 La_Brana-1 + Lithuanian + Mari + Selkup @ 6.687708

Hudayar
11-27-2017, 09:58 AM
Is Sami mongoloid dna really that high?

Leto
11-27-2017, 01:29 PM
Is Sami mongoloid dna really that high?
Most Scandinavian Sami look rather Scandinavian than Eurasian.

Bobby Martnen
03-08-2018, 10:45 PM
So this means Lapps (the proper name for them in English) are about 1/3 Siberian, 2/3 European.

Leto
03-08-2018, 10:48 PM
#PopulationPercent
1North_European52.92
2Siberian22.05
3Atlantic_Med10.25
4East_Asian6.28
5Sub_Saharan2.98
6Gedrosia2.65
7South_Asian1.15
8Southeast_Asian1.01
9East_African0.7
There's no way the results are legit. 3% SSA cannot be noise and of course an effing SAMI cannot be 3% African, lol.

Bobby Martnen
03-08-2018, 10:49 PM
There's no way the results are legit. 3% SSA cannot be noise and of course an effing SAMI cannot be 3% African, lol.

Once this Lapp's great-great-great-grandma went black, she never went back!!!

dperucca
03-08-2018, 10:51 PM
So this means Lapps (the proper name for them in English) are about 1/3 Siberian, 2/3 European.

Some would pass as Native American here http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DR9MF8/laplanders-norway-DR9MF8.jpg
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ol54557be7.jpg

Leto
03-08-2018, 10:52 PM
Once this Lapp's great-great-great-grandma went black, she never went back!!!
Lol. She pro'lly burned the coal long before it was cool, haha :lol:

Bobby Martnen
03-08-2018, 10:54 PM
Lol. She pro'lly burned the coal long before it was cool, haha :lol:

Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened in Scandinavia
http://ethnicelebs.com/fredrik-reinfeldt

Leto
03-08-2018, 10:57 PM
Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened in Scandinavia
http://ethnicelebs.com/fredrik-reinfeldt
Yeah, I remember that shitlib. He was like 'My great-grandfather was African-American, so I cannot oppose mass immigration and therefore Sweden needs open borders' :picard1:

Bobby Martnen
03-08-2018, 10:58 PM
Yeah, I remember that shitlib. He was like 'My great-grandfather was African-American, so I cannot oppose mass immigration and therefore Sweden needs open borders' :picard1:

He's either 3% or 6% black, depending on if his African-American ancestor was mulatto or not. There are conflicting reports. Still probably blacker than Carlito's Way!

MercifulServant
03-08-2018, 10:59 PM
Wow there like 30% Mong I didnt know

Smitty
03-09-2018, 01:45 AM
There's no way the results are legit. 3% SSA cannot be noise and of course an effing SAMI cannot be 3% African, lol.

It's only 1% on Eurogenes. And I've seen a number of Russians, Finns, and even a Swede scoring that much Sub-Saharan African. Doesn't really make sense, though.

Bobby Martnen
03-09-2018, 01:48 AM
It's only 1% on Eurogenes. And I've seen a number of Russians, Finns, and even a Swede scoring that much Sub-Saharan African. Doesn't really make sense, though.

Statistical noise.

Kouros
03-09-2018, 01:52 AM
It's only 1% on Eurogenes. And I've seen a number of Russians, Finns, and even a Swede scoring that much Sub-Saharan African. Doesn't really make sense, though.

I wonder if it shows up in their direct ancestry report? That's weird.

Smitty
03-09-2018, 02:01 AM
Statistical noise.


I wonder if it shows up in their direct ancestry report? That's weird.

I'm not familiar with the direct ancestry report. (I haven't tested myself.) This can't be real, though. It just shows these tests aren't gospel, although they are interesting.

Leto
03-09-2018, 03:19 PM
It's only 1% on Eurogenes. And I've seen a number of Russians, Finns, and even a Swede scoring that much Sub-Saharan African. Doesn't really make sense, though.
No Russian or Finn scores 3% SSA.

Smitty
03-09-2018, 03:48 PM
No Russian or Finn scores 3% SSA.

But a few have scored 1% on Eurogenes, which is all this person got on that test. I can't point you to the results, but the Swedish result was posted on here very recently. It's obviously not real in any case.

ovidiu
03-09-2018, 03:53 PM
Wow there like 30% Mong I didnt know

Is that really that surprising?

MercifulServant
03-09-2018, 05:35 PM
Is that really that surprising?
It is really surprising I thought it would be more like 15. Some of them look like normal Scandinavians even

Aren
03-09-2018, 08:11 PM
It's only 1% on Eurogenes. And I've seen a number of Russians, Finns, and even a Swede scoring that much Sub-Saharan African. Doesn't really make sense, though.

People need to keep reminding themself that all of theese DNA companies are still pretty amateur-ish. Some kits can get damaged, many things can go wrong.

Mingle
03-09-2018, 08:18 PM
It is really surprising I thought it would be more like 15. Some of them look like normal Scandinavians even

Well, just like Lapps can be physically diverse, they can be genetically diverse too. This is just the genetic data for one person.

ovidiu
03-09-2018, 09:51 PM
I was going to say, it is just for one person. Others are probably lower.

Smitty
03-10-2018, 12:06 AM
People need to keep reminding themself that all of theese DNA companies are still pretty amateur-ish. Some kits can get damaged, many things can go wrong.

And the calculators even more so.

Erronkari
01-03-2020, 04:58 AM
Anybody knows if do exist some udmurt gedmatch results to see them pls???

Leto
01-03-2020, 12:22 PM
Anybody knows if do exist some udmurt gedmatch results to see them pls???
I have a few academic samples and one "real" person. Not sure if they are still up after the Verogen controversy.

Erronkari
01-03-2020, 04:05 PM
I have a few academic samples and one "real" person. Not sure if they are still up after the Verogen controversy.

Oh very interesting! Thank you for the data.
Siberian and ural folks are very interesting in that sense to me! :D

Leto
01-03-2020, 04:17 PM
Oh very interesting! Thank you for the data.
Siberian and ural folks are very interesting in that sense to me! :D
I probably will post the results (one Udmurt and one Mari) but trolling won't be tolerated (this is not about you personally).

Erronkari
01-03-2020, 04:21 PM
I probably will post the results (one Udmurt and one Mari) but trolling won't be tolerated (this is not about you personally).

Oh sure my friend!!
In that case any idiocy we can talk inmediately to Loki or Longbowman.
Thank you for your help! :D