Does Greek Orthodox Lebanese Cyrine Abdel Nour look Minoan?

[Olly]

I know she played a Minoan goddess in one of her music videos, but I don't remember which one. What do you think?

http://arabiacdn.style.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/lebanese-celebrity-cyrine-abdelnour-best-fashion-beauty-moments.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WX4P73RlmL0/UEDq8vlC84I/AAAAAAAAO9I/7c7HTXIv2X4/s1600/CYRINE.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Cyrine_AbdelNour_66%C3%A8me_Festival_de_Venise_(Mo stra)_2.jpg

http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/2440392/380full-cyrine-abdelnour.jpg

http://nogomistars.com/wallpaper/cyrine_abdel_nour__30[1]..jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/79/45/89/794589e2c6cc2bcf7535599791d75897.jpg

http://www.dp-news.com/Contents/Picture/Default/2011/06/Cyrine-Abdel-Nour.jpg

[Danaan]

Ι think no.

[Danishmend]

Yes, I think so Sikeliot.

[Ylla]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3GX8Qx5FA

not really she looks levantine

[Voskos]

she looks what she is, levantine. but she can pass in crete.

[Shepherd]

She looks south European

especially here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Cyrine_AbdelNour_66ème_Festival_de_Venise_(Mostra) _2.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Yes, I think so Sikeliot.

Check the fucking IP address or shut your mouth.

[Danishmend]

Check the fucking IP address or shut your mouth.

Relax, I was just kidding. ;)

[Maguzanci]

OWD.

[Sikeliot]

Anyway no, she does not look Minoan but she can pass in Crete. She also could be Sicilian too.

[Profileid]

"Maronite" is not an ethnicity

[wvwvw]

Anyway no, she does not look Minoan but she can pass in Crete. She also could be Sicilian too.

You know what Ancient Minoans looked like? :D

[MinervaItalica]

Agree on the Goddess part. Hard to say how Minoans looked like. Probably typical Med people.

Minoan Peasant Girl - Last of the Minoans (BBC TV drama)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/e1/03/6de1038a6d730e4ab58e7383d4102687.jpg

[Mens-Sarda]

I think she's too dark skinned, if we look at the Minoan paintings of Akrotiri, women were milky white skinned and black haired

http://www.santorini-art.com/images/santorini_wall_paintings_13.jpg

http://www.santorini-art.com/images/santorini_wall_paintings_12.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~porphyra/krokos.jpg

[catgeorge]

Close but would stand out a little

Cretan artist
http://www.cretanart.gr/images/model-egency/woman/XaraM/Cover/cover-cretan-models-women.jpg

Cretan sisters

http://www.koolnews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/olga-570.jpg

Old Cretan women

http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/citi/images/standard/WebLarge/WebImg_000184/84005_2028917.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Close but would stand out a little

Cretan artist
http://www.cretanart.gr/images/model-egency/woman/XaraM/Cover/cover-cretan-models-women.jpg

Cretan sisters

http://www.koolnews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/olga-570.jpg

Old Cretan women

http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/citi/images/standard/WebLarge/WebImg_000184/84005_2028917.jpg



All of these people pass in Sicily just fine.

[catgeorge]

All of these people pass in Sicily just fine.

All of these people would pass in the rest of Greece just fine

[Sikeliot]

All of these people would pass in the rest of Greece just fine

Peloponnese I can see (they are really just northern-shifted Cretans), but not Epirus,Thrace etc.

[catgeorge]

Peloponnese I can see (they are really just northern-shifted Cretans), but not Epirus,Thrace etc.

You are on your own tangent.

[Sikeliot]

You are on your own tangent.

Do you have examples of Epirotes who look like them?

[catgeorge]

Do you have examples of Epirotes who look like them?

Mediteranean? You have got to be shitting me, right?

[Sikeliot]

Mediteranean? You have got to be shitting me, right?

They're Armenoid influenced.

[nightrider+]

http://i.imgur.com/RzJB03l.jpg?1

"Armenoid"

Sikeliot, take a 2 day break from posting, for your own good. Give yourself a ban.

[catgeorge]

They're Armenoid influenced.

Perhaps....but they look very Aegean Med to me and this is Greek majority

[Sikeliot]

Perhaps....but they look very Aegean Med to me and this is Greek majority

They look like Sicilian or southern Italian more so to me than any of the people in Epirus that I have seen, or Thrace.

[Sikeliot]

http://i.imgur.com/RzJB03l.jpg?1

"Armenoid"

Sikeliot, take a 2 day break from posting, for your own good. Give yourself a ban.

If this woman is one of those in that picture, she looks different.

[Profileid]

What account is lyllo using now?

[UkrainianGirl]

Gosh dang it. I am in love with her silver dress. I must go shopping now to buy one lol

[wvwvw]

Why Minoan specifically? (there were no such people that called themselves Minoans) Anyway she wouldn't stand out in Crete

[Queen B]

Peloponnese I can see (they are really just northern-shifted Cretans), but not Epirus,Thrace etc.
You have absolutely NO idea how people look like in Greece.
You have to realize that some day. You haven't even stepped a foot here :picard2:

[Profileid]

Gosh dang it. I am in love with her silver dress. I must go shopping now to buy one lol

You are too Ukrainian.

[wvwvw]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_f4VyuGJXWZQ/TCpZ2OYpWRI/AAAAAAAAAc8/nH_Ah49HEmo/s1600/min7.gif

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54d21e3be4b01b6e1f51da29/56d49697a3360c50fb694c74/56d4969727d4bd7c5cfb861e/1482757797910/Akrotiri-fisherman.jpg?format=500w

There is evidence that Minoans established colonies many of them along the coast of Lebanon and Palestine (where the town later known as GAZA was founded with the name MINOA), and later intermarried with late Mycenean immigrants during the "Sea Peoples" period. These hybrid immigrants became known in the OT as the Philistines.

We have plenty of Archeological evidence of Minoan settlements in Italy, Cyprus, Palestine, Iberia and even Germany. There 're some excavations in Germany that seem to reveal contact of the Minoans with Frisia. http://www.allempires.com/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27250

[UkrainianGirl]

You are too Ukrainian.
:cheer_icoon::dancing:

[Scholarios]

I think absolutely, but our resident nordicists will probably say 'no' because of some half-baked reason or another. In any case, she's identical to pictures on Minoan frescoes.

[Ylla]

In some pictures she even passes as Albanian but overall she looks Levantine. Very beautiful btw.

[nightrider+]

I don't see what's Minoan about her. By that logic, every dark haired woman looks Minoan. She even lacks the most characteristic feature in Minoan representations, the long, high-bridged, upturned nose. This is probably what Minoans looked like:

http://i.imgur.com/d5jUBln.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dUgUvbW.jpg

[wvwvw]

https://arsartisticadventureofmankind.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/153.jpg?w=863&h=449

[Newsboy]

I would say no. Looks Levantine.

[MysteriousWays]

Looks more Levantine imo.

[Sikeliot]

I think absolutely, but our resident nordicists will probably say 'no' because of some half-baked reason or another. In any case, she's identical to pictures on Minoan frescoes.

She passes in Crete today, but she doesn't look like Minoan frescoes to me.

[Voskos]

no idea if she looks minoan but she can definitely pass in Crete, especially in the south.

[Freeroostah]

Maybe yeah but she looks very Levantine while Minoans were Aegean Med

[crazyladybutterfly]

she looks what she is but i am sure she passes in southern europe

[Scholarios]

She passes in Crete today, but she doesn't look like Minoan frescoes to me.

Minoan frescoes are cartoons, they can approximate lots of looks. Mediterranean Alpine must have been common there, and if her name was Nourakis, everyone would agree.

[nightrider+]

Minoan frescoes are cartoons, they can approximate lots of looks. Mediterranean Alpine must have been common there, and if her name was Nourakis, everyone would agree.
Not really, according to Coon at least, they were uniformely Mediterranean with a mean CI of 72 and a brachy minority (not more than 1/6 in later years).

[Scholarios]

Not really, according to Coon at least, they were uniformely Mediterranean with a mean CI of 72 and a brachy minority (not more than 1/6 in later years).

Well, I mean, Coon was kind of insane thinking that entire populations were just one type, and even he admits that 1/6 of Minoan Cretans were Alpine. (and not even including the rest of Minoan civilization in the Cyclades).

[nightrider+]

Well, I mean, Coon was kind of insane thinking that entire populations were just one type, and even he admits that 1/6 of Minoan Cretans were Alpine. (and not even including the rest of Minoan civilization in the Cyclades).
What makes him insane? He just went by the data available.
72 is really low, even for modern Sardinians or Iberians, let alone any other European population. It's indication that they were predominantely Mediterranean dolichocephals.

[Percivalle]

Not really, according to Coon at least, they were uniformely Mediterranean with a mean CI of 72 and a brachy minority (not more than 1/6 in later years).

But Minoan frescoes are still not realistic.

[nightrider+]

But Minoan frescoes are still not realistic.
Maybe, but this doesn't mean you can't find people looking like that. For example, you'd be surprised by how common the type of nose I mentioned earlier is among Cretans, while almost non-existent in mainland Greece. But that's my personal observation.

[Percivalle]

Maybe, but this doesn't mean you can't find people looking like that.

Of course you're right.


For example, you'd be surprised by how common the type of nose I mentioned earlier is among Cretans, while almost non-existent in mainland Greece. But that's my personal observation.

Some examples?

[Lek]

She could be south euro in some pics

[DarknessWin]

No

['owight Gavnah]

She's not orthodox she's Muslim...

[nightrider+]

Some examples?

http://i.imgur.com/KjXAyOB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IEp3Gkr.jpg

[Morena]

yes she does.


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[catgeorge]

Some Cretans - Minoan, Dorian, Mycenean or other... and if other - then what is it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOzw21eZ2RE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLuwq55KS5w

[Avicenna]

Just found out she's half Greek, her mother is of Greek origin

[aherne]

The doesn't look Greek at all. Just Alpine in Levantine version... Beautiful also!

[Avicenna]

The doesn't look Greek at all. Just Alpine in Levantine version... Beautiful also!

She can pass in Greece , don't know why people are denying that . She can easily pass as Sardinian . She's half Greek half lebanese Christian btw

[GoalPoacher]

Just found out she's half Greek, her mother is of Greek origin

In Levant "Greek" means someone who belongs to Greek Orthodox church. So chances are her mother is not actually Greek but just a Levantine Christian who happens to be Greek Orthodox

[Avicenna]

Dp

[Avicenna]

In Levant "Greek" means someone who belongs to Greek Orthodox church. So chances are her mother is not actually Greek but just a Levantine Christian who happens to be Greek Orthodox

No she's of literal Greek origin . No one In Lebanon calls themselves "Greek" based on their stance of faith .

"Abdelnour was born in Abadiyeh to a Lebanese tailor father named Elias, and a nurse mother of Greek descent named Sylvie Cattouf[5] who is also a follower of the Greek Orthodox faith."

https://www.lahamag.com/article/176362-%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%86-%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D9%88%D8%B1-%D8%AA%D9%83%D8%B4%D9%81-%D8%B9%D9%86-%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%87%D8%A7-%D8%A8%D8%A5%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A9-%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D9%84%D9%81%D8%A9-%D9%88%D9%81%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A3%D9%86%D9%8A%D9%82

Greek orthodox constitutes 8% of Lebanons total population and the second largest denomination of Christians after Maronites . Nancy Ajram.also belongs to Greek orthodox but I don't think anyone has claimed she's of Greek origin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Greek_Orthodox_Christians

[Renekton]

Med

[wvwvw]

In Levant "Greek" means someone who belongs to Greek Orthodox church. So chances are her mother is not actually Greek but just a Levantine Christian who happens to be Greek Orthodox

No, only Lebanese of Greek descend ”happen” to be GREEK Orthodox, or those who are married into Greek.

Greeks have been inhabiting Lebanon since forever. They are literally native there, even if most nowadays are just Lebanese. And there are whole villages in Syria that are Greek.

[wvwvw]

Nancy Ajram.also belongs to Greek orthodox but I don't think anyone has claimed she's of Greek origin. [/url]

Her ancestors did marry a Greek or were Greek themselves at some point.

[aherne]

She can pass in Greece , don't know why people are denying that

I've been in Greece multiple times. Greeks are probably the darkest Europeans, but they don't look blatantly Levantine like this girl. She would be super atypical even as Turk (let alone Greek)

[Mejgusu]

She would be super atypical even as Turk

What? She looks super typical for a Turk.

[Avicenna]

I've been in Greece multiple times. Greeks are probably the darkest Europeans, but they don't look blatantly Levantine like this girl. She would be super atypical even as Turk (let alone Greek)

That is utter nonsense my friend . People wouldn't give a second look if she walked the streets of Rome let alone Ankara .

[placebo]

What? She looks super typical for a Turk.

I wouldn't say super typical but she can pass for sure.