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Myanthropologies
10-05-2016, 06:49 PM
For those of you who are into that, what made you interested?

- were you curious where you came from?
- was it for nationalistic purposes?
- was it to find something special about yourself?
- did you just want to learn more about race?

For me personally, I was curious about my heritage. The origin of Afghan Pashtuns was always never clear, and I was told I had partial greek, russian, persian, bulgarian, etc ancestry, so I wanted to find out for sure. I also like to see how pashtuns compare to the world in terms of shared ancestors, etc. And I was curious about other people in general.

Prutt
10-05-2016, 06:49 PM
I know my ancestry. I don't need this.

Myanthropologies
10-06-2016, 12:45 AM
Bump

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
10-06-2016, 12:47 AM
For me it all started with a Vietnamese-American classmate who talked about his being of Vietnamese descent all the time and how epic that was. Would often ask others about their ancestry. He got me intrigued in mine and now I'm here.

LP0956
10-06-2016, 12:47 AM
Mats Hummels

Wanderer
10-06-2016, 01:11 AM
I don't know, really. It'd be hard to put into words. I see ethnicity sort of in terms of one's baseline for viewing & interacting with the world, if that makes any sense. In other words: an integral part of who you are. For me, my interest began with my own and has grown from there to encompass a more general interest in concepts such as ethnicity. I just find human identity to be a fascinating topic. Racial, ethnic, regional, cultural, civic identity in particular, and how identity differs along these metrics; many different non-mutually exclusive combinations are possible.

Also something that's naturally rewarding, probably because it's so fundamental to humans. I am quite collectivist in my outlook in that I completely appreciate the duality between the individual & the collective. For many people, it's all about my former, but that seems like a empty and deracinated way to live. For me, it's important that any accomplishments I've made (such as educational attainments thus far in my life) be considered credits not just to myself, but to Ukraine in a broader sense. If I came up with some brilliant invention, I'd certainly like the world to know it came from a Ukrainian. Sort of like being part of a team and what side you're on, etc. So I have an intuitive understanding of how I feel this dynamic works for me; naturally, I'm interested in how it works for others, but of course it is not always possible to pigeonhole other people into the same kinds of paradigms that I embrace.

ЛыSSый
10-06-2016, 01:43 AM
this theme is hardly forced in my country for last (25?) years. And year by year our history is rewriting.

Africa
10-06-2016, 01:23 PM
I know what my old family papers say about the origin of my family but I was curious to know what science says

skbu
10-06-2016, 01:37 PM
In many ways, modern life is mundane. You jump the same hurdles, wear the same clothes, do the same 9-5 as everybody else. Genetics can overturn that - from superficial things like eye and hair colour to subtle things like SNPs, genetics and ancestry is a way I can feel like I'm unique and interesting. Even though I know that I, like everybody else, am not ;)

dddcc
10-06-2016, 02:16 PM
What made me interested in all this stuff is basically the need to learn if I was an Arab or a Berber.
I was Arabist since childhood (in fact when still aged something like 6 my parents made me member of an Arabist party and were prideful when at my early age I recited poems about Palestine to the party crowds)
My parents were also leftist (now they are still Arabist but became Islamist and they make prayers and fast Ramadhan) and registred me at the Soviet cultural center (it was still called the Soviet cultural center even when it was the late 90's) where I went on holidays watching beautiful Russian cartoon films and other ballet dances.
For some reason at my early 20's and thanks partly to the internet and especially wikipedia I came to the conclusion that Arabs could not have killed all Berbers and it could be that Tunisians still preserve Berber blood, later I learned about FTDNA and decided to test myself to settle down definitely my identity issue.
To my great surprise it appeared that I'm only half Tunisian, however I realized that my Tunisian half is Berber and not Arab.
Now when people ask about my ethnicity I say that I'am Tunisian and Tunisians are Berber (while still teenager I proudly identified as Arab and was one of the ''leaders'' of the Arabist youth amongst students when still in secondary school, in those days we boycotted lessons and made rallies inside the school protesting Israeli and US raids)
Also I no longer take pride in being from X or Y ethnicity (though I show curiousity and respect to my ancestors' culture and history) and I'm actually studying Berber language as well as German by myself.
Indeed because of my hypthetical Germanic ancestry I decided to learn a Germanic language (besides English) and I picked Deutsch because it's by far the most important Germanic language (it seems I have Celtic ancestry as well however I dont, actually, go as far as learning the nearly moribund Gaelic language)

Greensboro Jock
10-06-2016, 02:29 PM
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Zmey Gorynych
10-06-2016, 02:55 PM
I was always interested in my ancestry. I had a long talk with my paternal grandmother about her and my grandfathers (her husband) ancestors. I didn't have the chance to speak to my maternal grandparents because one of them died before I was born and the other when I was 5 years old. I wasn't aware of genetics as we perceive them here (percentages of baltid, north-atlantid, med and so on) but I knew what I am (ethnically) and I didn't expect any surprises so I guess I took the test out of boredom and because some of the people here took it ... and I thought to myself, shiiiit ... it would be cool to have my own percentages ...

Ylla
10-06-2016, 06:53 PM
An albanian member on forum asked if i was going to do 23andme to compare with others. From there I wasn't just interested in our genetics but how we compared with others too around the world. That's how it works, you can't look at where you stand globally until you learn about populations around the world.:)

It's a curse sometimes because you want to discuss in civil manner with someone but they take things as an offence to their ethnicity

So many sensitive fairies.

Myanthropologies
10-06-2016, 06:56 PM
An albanian member on forum asked if i was going to do 23andme to compare with others. From there I wasn't just interested in our genetics but how we compared with others too around the world. That's how it works, you can't look at where you stand globally until you learn about populations around the world.:)

It's a curse sometimes because you want to discuss in civilized manner with someone but they take things as an offence to their ethnicity

So many sensitive fairies.

Well anthropology and genetics itself is a very controversial subject. A lot of it used to attempt to justify racism.

Ylla
10-06-2016, 06:58 PM
Well anthropology and genetics itself is a very controversial subject. A lot of it used to attempt to justify racism.

True,but these people who get butthurt do it because of OWD

Myanthropologies
10-06-2016, 07:03 PM
True,but these people who get butthurt do it because of OWD

It's not always OWD. Sometimes implications that aren't true are made, and it takes away the seriousness of a subject, and it gets frustrating. There would be no such thing as OWD in the first place if racism never existed. White is nothing more than a phenotype. You either look white or you're not white looking. Genes don't matter when you shut off the forum. OWD people from experience (true OWD people) tend to be darker European posters who dont look typically European and have to prove how European they are. That is something that they shouldn't be blamed for. That is something that their society should be blamed for, for teaching their own people they they have to be pale skinned and light haired, etc to look educated, be attractive, be intelligent, taken seriously in life, etc.

Friends of Oliver Society
10-06-2016, 07:05 PM
Two reasons: 1) I figured I could barrage '5th cousins' with requests for money cuz 'we're family, bro.' That failed miserably. 2) I have a surprising interest in myself.

Ylla
10-06-2016, 07:10 PM
It's not always OWD. Sometimes implications that aren't true are made, and it takes away the seriousness of a subject, and it gets frustrating. There would be no such thing as OWD in the first place if racism never existed. White is nothing more than a phenotype. You either look white or you're not white looking. Genes don't matter when you shut off the forum. OWD people from experience (true OWD people) tend to be darker European posters who dont look typically European and have to prove how European they are. That is something that they shouldn't be blamed for. That is something that their society should be blamed for, for teaching their own people they they have to be pale skinned and light haired, etc to look educated, be attractive, be intelligent, taken seriously in life, etc.

Outside of forums, no one gives a fuck tbh. White is an american thing.
OWD here exists cos those standards are imposed on Europeans when we always had blondes and wogs living together.

Tobi
10-06-2016, 07:10 PM
Because I am a zionist nazi

Petalpusher
10-06-2016, 07:11 PM
For me it all started with a Vietnamese-American classmate who talked about his being of Vietnamese descent all the time and how epic that was. Would often ask others about their ancestry. He got me intrigued in mine and now I'm here.

non-cuckolded Turanism, sure is the way to go FAIRIES !


I wanted to see if i was R1b, cause yes you are an idiot at this in the beginning.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
10-06-2016, 07:13 PM
non-cuckolded Turanism, sure is the way to go FAIRIES !


I wanted to see if i was R1b, cause yes you are an idiot at this in the beginning.

Fairies?

But yeah, non-cuckolded Turanism is the best. Some Turanists here are very liberal and even think of it more as just a linguistic thing and are very socially liberal. Yuck.

Myanthropologies
10-06-2016, 07:14 PM
Outside of forums, no one gives a fuck tbh. White is an american thing.
OWD here exists cos those standards are imposed on Europeans when we always had blondes and wogs living together.

The concept of whiteness and even Europeans is really an OWD anyways. Many people in Europe had to assimilate themselves to that label. And in America, the way this forum treats "OWD" people is the exact same way it treated many Europeans who begged to be "white" upon coming to America. And clearly they do, otherwise why would darker European members who have no interest in the topic unless it concerns themselves be doing here?

It's also funny how many Europeans deny that part of american history happening when the documents are clearly there.

Alessio
10-06-2016, 07:22 PM
To find out more about my own roots.