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barkoo
10-06-2016, 12:21 PM
Iris Mittenaere, Miss France 2016 born in Lille (Nord, Pas-de-Calais)
Alpinized Atlanto-Med most likely.


http://imworld.aufeminin.com/story/20150928/iris-mittenaere-miss-nord-pas-de-calais-2015-773950_w650.jpg

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/4/17/20/34/@/2064418-iris-mittenaere-miss-france-2016-subl-950x0-2.png

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/cmZNe3hxYCIgfCf1fAAZLQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/fr_FR/News/TeleLoisirs/78244-iris-mittenaere-miss-france-2016-on-me-prete-une-ressemblance-avec-nabilla-l-int.jpeg

http://media.meltycampus.fr/article-2958367-fb-f788718421/miss-france-miss-france-2016-iris-mittenaere.jpg

http://cdn1-public.ladmedia.fr/var/public/storage/images/dossiers/miss-france-2015/toutes-les-news-sur-miss-france/exclu-public-iris-mittenaere-miss-france-2016-mon-petit-ami-est-tres-fier-de-moi-893517/12346929-1-fre-FR/Exclu-Public-Iris-Mittenaere-Miss-France-2016-Mon-petit-ami-est-tres-fier-de-moi_portrait_w674.jpg

http://cdn1-public.ladmedia.fr/var/public/storage/images/dossiers/miss-france-2015/toutes-les-photos-sur-miss-france/photos-miss-france-2016-le-boyfriend-d-iris-mittenaere-se-confie-894535/12357935-1-fre-FR/Photos-Miss-France-2016-le-boyfriend-d-Iris-Mittenaere-se-confie_portrait_w674.jpg


https://youtu.be/ZH3nBZYCQyI?t=21

Trojka
10-06-2016, 12:26 PM
I'd say proper Mediterranean. Wouldn't be surprised if you told me she's a French jew or something.

barkoo
10-06-2016, 12:34 PM
I'd say proper Mediterranean. Wouldn't be surprised if you told me she's a French jew or something.

She's Ethnic French.
Wiki quote:


Fille cadette de Yves Mittenaere, professeur d'histoire-géographie, et de Laurence Druart, professeur des écoles puis guide conférencière au musée de Flandre à Cassel, Iris Mittenaere a un frère, une sœur et une demi-sœur

Both parents surnames are French ones, maybe from Grandparents then, she's Northerner and doesn't look like so, more like a Southern French girl is more accurate.

Selurong
10-06-2016, 12:35 PM
She looks quite med.

MinervaItalica
10-06-2016, 12:43 PM
Judging from those pics seems a normal Med. Other pics shows Atlanto-Med.

barkoo
10-06-2016, 12:44 PM
Judging from those pics seems a normal Med. Other pics shows Atlanto-Med.

Did you watch the video too ?

decordoba
10-06-2016, 01:03 PM
Western Mediterran - Atlantid

Trojka
10-06-2016, 01:05 PM
This Indian woman could be her lookalike


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Priyanka_Chopra_at_the_2011_Big_Star_Entertainment _Awards.jpg
https://scstylecaster.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/priynk-chopra.jpg?w=916&h=515
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/NdrRFZm0r1p_hDM2BwmocLLgoWo/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2016/03/22/945/n/1922398/a718dac4_edit_img_cover_file_40647437_1458599804_P riFB/i/Hot-Pictures-Priyanka-Chopra.jpg

Sebastianus Rex
10-06-2016, 01:07 PM
Trans-Mediterranid (transitional between Gracile and Atlanto-Med) + some paleo-atlantid influence.

The Blade
10-06-2016, 01:10 PM
I don't know about Alpinid in this case but I would say Atlanto-Med/Gracile Med intermediate. Somewhat specific look.

Dandelion
10-06-2016, 01:13 PM
Both parents surnames are French ones, maybe from Grandparents then, she's Northerner and doesn't look like so, more like a Southern French girl is more accurate.

Her surname is Southern Dutch. It's probably a name from French Flanders, in that regard she has a French name of course. ;) Louis XIV was the best monarch for securing that part for France in his wars versus Spain.

Ouistreham
10-06-2016, 01:20 PM
Mediterranean.
Quite surprisingly, since all of her ancestry is from Flanders (and half of it from Belgian Flanders).


http://www.rfgenealogie.com/var/rfge/storage/images/s-informer/infos/celebrites/les-origines-familiales-de-miss-france-2016/2116477-1-fre-FR/les-origines-familiales-de-miss-france-2016_illu-l.jpg

Les origines familiales de Miss France 2016

Née à Lille en 1993, Iris Mittenaere, la nouvelle Miss France est issue d’une famille d’enseignants (père, mère, grand-père).

Les racines de celle qui avait été élue Miss Nord - Pas-de-Calais 2015 surfent donc entre la France et la Belgique : d’abord à Halluin, près de Lille, où les Mittenaere se sont fixés voilà un peu plus d’un siècle et où l’on trouve, par les femmes, des ancêtres établis de toute ancienneté, à commencer par les DROUART.

La lignée patronymique était arrivée à Halluin avec le trisaïeul, ouvrier en tabac et natif de Menin, en Belgique, juste en face d’Halluin, sur l’autre rive de la Lys, qui fait la frontière avec la Belgique et où la famille est connue depuis un certain Jean de Mythenaere, né vers 1699.

Une lignée originaire des Flandres-Occidentales, avec un patronyme flamand, aux variantes en effet nombreuses (Myt(t)enaer, Mijttenaere, de Mythenaere…), attesté plus au Nord, à Rumbecke (entre Lille et Bruges), depuis un ancêtre prénommé Michael, né vers 1650, et bien plus anciennement à Gullegem, avec un Jacob de Mittenare, cité en 1398, dans le Woordenboeck von de Familienamen.
http://www.rfgenealogie.com/s-informer/infos/celebrites/les-origines-familiales-de-miss-france-2016

The Blade
10-06-2016, 01:20 PM
Trans-Mediterranid (transitional between Gracile and Atlanto-Med) + some paleo-atlantid influence.
Turns out we thought similar in this case, my friend.

Dandelion
10-06-2016, 01:22 PM
Mediterranean.
Quite surprisingly, since all of her ancestry is from Flanders (and half of it from Belgian Flanders).

French used to be a prestige language here. She must come from a bourgeois family. Otherwise just West Flemish likely, they're the most fluent in French due to sharing a border with France. I know other provinces share a border with Wallonia except for Antwerp, so there might be other reasons.

barkoo
10-06-2016, 01:23 PM
I don't know about Alpinid in this case but I would say Atlanto-Med/Gracile Med intermediate. Somewhat specific look.

Nose and cheeks are of Alpinization process.
Can't see Gracile over her, maybe influences (eyes, skin color).

Grab the Gauge
10-06-2016, 01:24 PM
Halstatt Nordic.

Grab the Gauge
10-06-2016, 01:25 PM
Nose and cheeks are of Alpinization process.
Can't see Gracile over her, maybe influences (eyes, skin color).

Lol, wrong.

Dandelion
10-06-2016, 01:27 PM
People who look as dark as she does aren't that uncommon in Belgium, by the way. We have phenotypical differences from (especially Northern) Dutch people despite being (or at least having been) part of the same civilization more or less (at least with people from the Southern Netherlands). Probably some Spaniards who left their genetic traces here? :p But it could also be because our lands were more Celtic and less Germanic 2000 years ago and still left some genetic substratum?

Just saying. You see her as med-looking, but there are many people here with no known foreign family looking like her here.

Sebastianus Rex
10-06-2016, 01:28 PM
Nose and cheeks are of Alpinization process.
Can't see Gracile over her, maybe influences (eyes, skin color).

She's quite gracilized, not at all an alpinoid skull.

Trojka
10-06-2016, 01:28 PM
If she was Mexican people would speculate in between Castiza and Mestiza, taxonomy is pseudoscience at it's best.

Ouistreham
10-06-2016, 01:30 PM
She must come from a bourgeois family.
Not at all. Her parents are teachers but her grand-parents were definitely from a working class background. They even were famous union activists in the area, members of Communist movements.


Otherwise just West Flemish likely, they're the most fluent in French due to sharing a border with France.

Yes, exactly. Mainly from Menin / Menen.

barkoo
10-06-2016, 01:31 PM
She's quite gracilized, not at all an alpinoid skull.

I'm talking about the Nose and cheeks, the skull is clearly Atlantid, she's 1m77 btw.

Dandelion
10-06-2016, 01:33 PM
Here, Miss Belgium 1995.

http://deredactie.be/polopoly_fs/1.1420844!image/3965774779.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape670/3965774779.jpg

No known immigrant background.

Yeah I admit, I cherry-picked the photo were she was the most tan and she could have a tanning addiction to boot.

http://static3.hln.be/static/photo/2012/7/11/5/20120926104608/media_xll_5192270.jpg


The most succesful Miss Belgium for Flanders at least, alongside maybe Goedele Liekens. ;)

Sebastianus Rex
10-06-2016, 01:34 PM
I'm talking about the Nose and cheeks, the skull is clearly Atlantid, she's 1m77 btw.

She's too dark and other features such as full lips, rounded nose don't correspond to Atlantid, and her skull is too small for that also, she has a little head visible in the video next to other girls.

Nose and cheeks + eyes/browridge denote some CM (likely Paleo influence)

Grab the Gauge
10-06-2016, 01:38 PM
I'm talking about the Nose and cheeks, the skull is clearly Atlantid, she's 1m77 btw.

You're still wrong.

barkoo
10-06-2016, 01:39 PM
She's too dark and other features suck as full lips, rounded nose don't correspond to Atlantid.

Nose and cheeks + eyes/browridge denote some CM (likely Paleo influence)

Right, that's the Med part of the classification but Alpine Nose is a wave like she might be influenced by it too or maybe Paleo-Atlantid inf, agree.
She got a interesting pheno though.

Dandelion
10-06-2016, 01:39 PM
Classification is like on anthroboards is a pseudoscience, much like phrenology. Phenotypical differences are real of course, but the way people go at it on forums like this one is often bullshit. ;)

Grab the Gauge
10-06-2016, 01:39 PM
She's too dark and other features suck as full lips, rounded nose don't correspond to Atlantid, and her skull is too small for that also, she has a little head visible in the video next to other girls.

Nose and cheeks + eyes/browridge denote some CM (likely Paleo influence)

LOL @ the "Atlantid race"

Grab the Gauge
10-06-2016, 01:41 PM
Classification is like on anthroboards is a pseudoscience, much like phrenology.

Especially considering the extreme visual intelligence deficiency of the average Anthroforum.

Sebastianus Rex
10-06-2016, 01:47 PM
LOL @ the "Atlantid race"

Another type of Atlanto-Med.

RN97
10-06-2016, 01:50 PM
Pan-med. Passes in France, Italy, Greece, Iberia. All over southern Euro.

Ouistreham
10-06-2016, 01:55 PM
LOL @ the "Atlantid race"

"Atlantid" (like once "die westische Rasse") is a Polit-Korrekt excuse for not saying Mediterranean.

Grab the Gauge
10-06-2016, 02:05 PM
Another type of Atlanto-Med.

LOL @ "ATLANTO MED"

LOL @ "ATLANTID"

Petalpusher
10-06-2016, 02:05 PM
I d pay good money to have her tested. She looks basically quadroon.

barkoo
10-06-2016, 02:07 PM
I d pay good money to have her tested. She looks basically quadroon.

No, she looks Med.

Dick
10-06-2016, 02:19 PM
SHE LOOKS FINE YOU FUCKING AUTISTS

JMack
10-06-2016, 02:20 PM
Classification is like on anthroboards is a pseudoscience, much like phrenology. Phenotypical differences are real of course, but the way people go at it on forums like this one is often bullshit. ;)

Yeah, if Catherine Zeta Jones or Orlando Bloom were latin americans people would say they look 'obviously' mixed and stuff like that. I like these classifications more for fun, since these things have no scientific basis.

barkoo
10-06-2016, 02:29 PM
Yeah, if Catherine Zeta Jones or Orlando Bloom were latin americans people would say they look 'obviously' mixed and stuff like that. I like these classifications more for fun, since these things have no scientific basis.

Then you should write Nordic for your classification, it might be funnier actually.

Slud
10-06-2016, 02:34 PM
I d pay good money to have her tested. She looks basically quadroon.

Nothing negroid about her. Looks Atlanto-Med leaning towards Gracile Med.

Kace
10-06-2016, 02:47 PM
Some of you really need to watch the video because she's not exotic looking, at all and some you really need to be around some actual mestizas and quadroons.

Petalpusher
10-06-2016, 02:49 PM
Nothing negroid about her. Looks Atlanto-Med leaning towards Gracile Med.

Dude the whole country thought she was from the DOM TOM (and probably still think she is)

barkoo
10-06-2016, 02:51 PM
Dude the whole country thought she was from the DOM TOM (and probably still think she is)

Tu peux référencer ce que tu dis ?? c'est n'importe quoi, serieux.

Trojka
10-06-2016, 02:53 PM
Dude the whole country thought she was from the DOM TOM (and probably still think she is)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-13Pvce6JRss/UGNh_lLtYSI/AAAAAAAADQ4/rjgT_sYjKd8/s1600/mark-henry-finger.gif

barkoo
10-06-2016, 06:07 PM
bump

Kitkouach
10-06-2016, 09:45 PM
She really disturbs me.

http://cdn1-public.ladmedia.fr/var/public/storage/images/news/iris-mittenaere-miss-france-2016-elle-devoile-son-projet-apres-son-regne-894787/12360225-1-fre-FR/Iris-Mittenaere-Miss-France-2016-Elle-devoile-son-projet-apres-son-regne_portrait_w674.jpg

http://imworld.aufeminin.com/story/20151221/miss-france-2016-833509_w650.jpg

Actually, she seems to be a mix of 2 friends of mine.
The first girl is a Tunisian jew, the second is half danish 1/4 French and 1/4 spanish. This last took the mediteranean taned skin with a kind of tall and robust body.

This miss has obvious med on her. The lips and her tan.
Actually, I think she would be exotic regardless the country : she seems too exotic for Europe, but too European for North Africa or Turquia, for exemple.
So i think she can be a good exemple of real mixing.
And those who say she has no known exotic ancestry... LOL. Nobody knows all the history. Clue : some of her ancestor may have cheated their partner with a med immigrant, or something like that... haa family secrets ;)

Conclusion : I say North Atlanto-Med.

Maguzanci
10-06-2016, 09:47 PM
She looks non-White.

I did not know French can look this exotic.

Maguzanci
10-06-2016, 09:50 PM
Dude the whole country thought she was from the DOM TOM (and probably still think she is)

What is DOM TOM? She looks non-White to me.

Kitkouach
10-06-2016, 10:06 PM
DOM TOM are territories under French control but geographicaly not located into the French metropolis on Europe.
Some exemples of DOM TOM : French Guiana in south America, Martinique and Guadeloupe in the Caribbean... ect.

These regions are mostly mixed-black dominant.

Aëlwenn
10-06-2016, 11:46 PM
I know not at all, the first time I saw her, I thought she was north African ^^

Dandelion
10-06-2016, 11:48 PM
I know not at all, the first time I saw her, I thought she was north African ^^

Yet, she's a Belgian waffle. Who would've known?

Cristiano viejo
10-06-2016, 11:51 PM
People who look as dark as she does aren't that uncommon in Belgium, by the way. We have phenotypical differences from (especially Northern) Dutch people despite being (or at least having been) part of the same civilization more or less (at least with people from the Southern Netherlands). Probably some Spaniards who left their genetic traces here? :p But it could also be because our lands were more Celtic and less Germanic 2000 years ago and still left some genetic substratum?

Just saying. You see her as med-looking, but there are many people here with no known foreign family looking like her here.
:patpat:

decordoba
10-07-2016, 06:20 AM
People who look as dark as she does aren't that uncommon in Belgium, by the way. We have phenotypical differences from (especially Northern) Dutch people despite being (or at least having been) part of the same civilization more or less (at least with people from the Southern Netherlands). Probably some Spaniards who left their genetic traces here? :p But it could also be because our lands were more Celtic and less Germanic 2000 years ago and still left some genetic substratum?

Just saying. You see her as med-looking, but there are many people here with no known foreign family looking like her here.

Right - Belgium was Celtic area 2.000 years ago.

barkoo
10-08-2016, 01:59 PM
bump

Dandelion
10-08-2016, 02:15 PM
Right - Belgium was Celtic area 2.000 years ago.

Well, Celtic with Germanic influence, possible also Germanic altogether (depending on tribe). Already back then the border of both cultures.

barkoo
10-09-2016, 11:45 AM
bump

Registan
10-09-2016, 08:49 PM
MED

guyinsf
01-30-2017, 06:17 AM
Nothing non-white about her, she looks like a southern european girl to me. I'm not saying she doesn't have any non-white DNA in her because I don't know for sure but nothing about her phenotypically suggests that she's not plain white to me, she could be a mix of something who knows. I think most of you are troubled by the origin of her last name and her birthplace being of northern origin. I must admit people in the Lille area with a surname of Belgian/Flemish origin wouldn't be expected to look like her but she's still white looking to me, just southern looking that's all. Her classification is med.

Btw, she just won Miss Universe 2017! Congrats to Iris and France, probably first European winner a while? Very pretty and feminine looking girl and she deserves the title!

Rudel
01-30-2017, 06:33 AM
I'd say proper Mediterranean. Wouldn't be surprised if you told me she's a French jew or something.
She's got a pretty Flemish name. I'm guessing she's been abusing tanning creams.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
01-30-2017, 07:01 AM
she looks med. and I could mistaken her for middle eastern

Dandelion
01-30-2017, 07:03 AM
Miss Universe 2016! Flemish superiority! If we had a Balkan mentality you wouldn't have heard the end of it, but as we don't nothing of the sort. She even descends from Belgian Flemish people.

In our media she's just mentioned as Miss France. "Française wint Miss Universe" and in the article "born in Lille".

Queen B
01-30-2017, 08:06 AM
Wtf, she looks tottaly white.

GiCa
01-31-2017, 03:47 PM
She really disturbs me.

http://cdn1-public.ladmedia.fr/var/public/storage/images/news/iris-mittenaere-miss-france-2016-elle-devoile-son-projet-apres-son-regne-894787/12360225-1-fre-FR/Iris-Mittenaere-Miss-France-2016-Elle-devoile-son-projet-apres-son-regne_portrait_w674.jpg

http://imworld.aufeminin.com/story/20151221/miss-france-2016-833509_w650.jpg

Actually, she seems to be a mix of 2 friends of mine.
The first girl is a Tunisian jew, the second is half danish 1/4 French and 1/4 spanish. This last took the mediteranean taned skin with a kind of tall and robust body.

This miss has obvious med on her. The lips and her tan.
Actually, I think she would be exotic regardless the country : she seems too exotic for Europe, but too European for North Africa or Turquia, for exemple.
So i think she can be a good exemple of real mixing.
And those who say she has no known exotic ancestry... LOL. Nobody knows all the history. Clue : some of her ancestor may have cheated their partner with a med immigrant, or something like that... haa family secrets ;)

Conclusion : I say North Atlanto-Med.

Half of Europe has as standard her colours and pigmentation. nothing exotic at all and nothing at least Dom/Tom as one said. France does have a border with the more southern parts of europe and farnce it s half south europe too. surprisng is the fact that this new Miss Universe is from the north of France where people gets more of fairish pigmentation; but people do Travel. she could be jewish or dom/tom (to get her look id dom/tom she has to be at lest quadroon if mixed with blacks, or something akin to castizos if mixed with asians) but her look is not something foreign for europe.

europe is not at all a fairish land, as half europe has in his standard the pimenttion you would find in what american call white hispanics (castizos and criollos)

she's Atlanto- Med (Grab the Gauge will make an angry face). not exotic at all for europe and standard for the south west part of europe.


Half of Europe has as standard common her pigmentation. you don t need to go outside europe to find people with dark brown hair and not super pale skin

i ve knewn someone similar; a french girl married to one of my friend of whom i attended the wedding this summer; she s similar to this girl, atlanto med with ancestries all from Alsace (and i m sure because our friend told us she has not un-foreign french origins)

Visage pâle
12-21-2019, 11:41 PM
Iris Mittenaere, Miss France 2016 born in Lille (Nord, Pas-de-Calais)
Alpinized Atlanto-Med most likely.


http://imworld.aufeminin.com/story/20150928/iris-mittenaere-miss-nord-pas-de-calais-2015-773950_w650.jpg

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/4/17/20/34/@/2064418-iris-mittenaere-miss-france-2016-subl-950x0-2.png

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/cmZNe3hxYCIgfCf1fAAZLQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/fr_FR/News/TeleLoisirs/78244-iris-mittenaere-miss-france-2016-on-me-prete-une-ressemblance-avec-nabilla-l-int.jpeg

http://media.meltycampus.fr/article-2958367-fb-f788718421/miss-france-miss-france-2016-iris-mittenaere.jpg

http://cdn1-public.ladmedia.fr/var/public/storage/images/dossiers/miss-france-2015/toutes-les-news-sur-miss-france/exclu-public-iris-mittenaere-miss-france-2016-mon-petit-ami-est-tres-fier-de-moi-893517/12346929-1-fre-FR/Exclu-Public-Iris-Mittenaere-Miss-France-2016-Mon-petit-ami-est-tres-fier-de-moi_portrait_w674.jpg

http://cdn1-public.ladmedia.fr/var/public/storage/images/dossiers/miss-france-2015/toutes-les-photos-sur-miss-france/photos-miss-france-2016-le-boyfriend-d-iris-mittenaere-se-confie-894535/12357935-1-fre-FR/Photos-Miss-France-2016-le-boyfriend-d-Iris-Mittenaere-se-confie_portrait_w674.jpg


https://youtu.be/ZH3nBZYCQyI?t=21

She have belgian ancestors according to his genealogy. Like most modern french, she isn't 100 % ethnic french.

aherne
12-22-2019, 04:41 AM
Looks Indian in most pictures:

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/cmZNe3hxYCIgfCf1fAAZLQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/fr_FR/News/TeleLoisirs/78244-iris-mittenaere-miss-france-2016-on-me-prete-une-ressemblance-avec-nabilla-l-int.jpeg

Some Gypsy admixture is a must, otherwise you cannot have a French that looks like a light Punjabi...

MaldenK
12-22-2019, 05:51 AM
I've seen South Germans that look like this.

Celestia
12-22-2019, 05:53 AM
Atlanto-Med. Really pretty

Nurzat
12-22-2019, 05:59 AM
she's gorgeous. people on this forum don't know shit.

The Lawspeaker
12-22-2019, 06:11 AM
She's Ethnic French.
Wiki quote:



Both parents surnames are French ones, maybe from Grandparents then, she's Northerner and doesn't look like so, more like a Southern French girl is more accurate.

Actually Mittenaere sounds more Flemish.

TheOldNorth
12-22-2019, 06:19 AM
At least it’s an actually ethnic french woman

Kyp
12-22-2019, 09:27 AM
I've seen South Germans that look like this.

No you haven't.

Visage pâle
12-22-2019, 09:33 AM
Actually Mittenaere sounds more Flemish.

This, part of his ancestors were from flemish Belgium.

MaldenK
12-22-2019, 09:33 AM
No you haven't.

Lmao, she looks look my colleague. Whatever you want to believe. :)

Dandelion
12-22-2019, 10:24 AM
She's from Picardie, but has a Flemish surname. Roots from Belgium and not French Flanders. Still from the Low Countries with a very simular culture to ours.

Numidia
12-22-2019, 01:48 PM
I know not at all, the first time I saw her, I thought she was north African ^^

She don't look north african she overuse tanning
Light skin miss never win miss universe
I think she may be a little Italian because of the big diaspora everywhere

TrevorXdX
09-26-2020, 01:32 PM
Atlanto Mediterranid

NITE
04-29-2022, 04:31 AM
Alantid