Classify Pashtun Bacha-Bazi boy dancers

[Danishmend]

[I]Bacha bāzī is a slang term in Afghanistan for a wide variety of activities that involve child sexual abuse and pederasty. The perpetrator is commonly called bacha Baz (meaning "pedophile" in Persian). It may include to some extent child pornography, sexual slavery, and child prostitution in which prepubescent and adolescent boys are sold to wealthy or powerful men for entertainment and sexual activities.[1] Bacha bazi has existed throughout history,[2] and is currently reported in various parts of Afghanistan

http://imgs.cb.com.cn/2/2010-09-15/272258608420733041230699499.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/07/07/2FDDA0AF00000578-0-image-a-21_1452152597908.jpg
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[Myanthropologies]

Let's start a petition to have dainshmends mod status taken away. He is acting really immature for a moderator. Who PURPOSELY makes these threads?

[Myanthropologies]

Not that this is highly a thing in Afghanistan, because it's not, and it gets overplayed, but you are really a horrible disgusting person for using child molestation as humor to troll someone.

[Profileid]

Let's start a petition to have dainshmends mod status taken away. He is acting really immature for a moderator. Who PURPOSELY makes these threads?

He wouldn't do it if you didn't allow yourself to get provoked so easily. By letting people know what makes you angry, you let them know everything about you.

[Pahli]

I am sure Danishmend has done similar for Gültekin in their little romance circle :laugh:

[Myanthropologies]

He wouldn't do it if you didn't allow yourself to get provoked so easily. By letting people know what makes you angry, you let them know everything about you.

I'm not the one who's angry, he's just made because I pointed out his insecurities. So he then loses his entire sanity and mocks children who get raped in attempt to provide crude, trolling humor.

This isn't funny at all. I don't understand people who think it's okay to make fun of victims of rape.

[Profileid]

I'm not the one who's angry, he's just made because I pointed out his insecurities. So he then loses his entire sanity and mocks children who get raped in attempt to provide crude, trolling humor.

This isn't funny at all. I don't understand people who think it's okay to make fun of victims of rape.

Good point

[Pahli]

I'm not the one who's angry, he's just made because I pointed out his insecurities. So he then loses his entire sanity and mocks children who get raped in attempt to provide crude, trolling humor.

This isn't funny at all. I don't understand people who think it's okay to make fun of victims of rape.

We all know something is wrong with his head, he always tries to portray himself as some clever fuck but in reality is a curly haired retard judging from his picture

[Ylla]

http://imgs.cb.com.cn/2/2010-09-15/272258608420733041230699499.jpg

^ Lmao that man will become another TA avatar ^^

[Danishmend]

Good to see kıros moan like animals when I hit back.

[Pahli]

Good to see kıros moan like animals when I hit back.

I triggered you several times on several occasions, so don't think you've won by getting our attention subhuman :laugh:

[Registan]

Bacha-bazi is a historically Turkic practice.



The köçek (plural köçekler in Turkish) was typically a very handsome young male rakkas, or dancer, who usually cross-dressed in feminine attire, and was employed as an entertainer.[1]


Dancing Ottoman boy (Köçek)

https://edchow.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/turkish_-_dancing_kocek_-_late_19th_c_-_wiki.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6%C3%A7ek
https://edchow.wordpress.com/2015/05/29/some-hints-on-the-history-of-bacha-bazi-1865-1913/


The Uzbek Amir of Bukhara was a notorious Bacha-baz


As he rode across the mountains south toward Afghanistan, the Emir, in the words of Sir Fitzroy Maclean, dropped “favorite dancing boy after favorite dancing boy” at strategic points, convinced that the Bolsheviks would not be able to resist at least a temporary halt to enjoy the pleasures of each lad.150 The Bolsheviks, however, were less susceptible to the temptations of the young boys than the Emir himself had been, and either ignored or killed them in their pursuit. Finally the evil Emir reached Kabul, Afghanistan, where he died in 1944. He is buried at the Shuadoi Solehin cemetery.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/10/06/the-gay-emir-of-bokhara-and-his-dancing-boys/

[Danishmend]

I triggered you several times on several occasions, so don't think you've won by getting our attention subhuman :laugh:

How dare you call anyone subhuman? It looks funny when you act racist. This is what you are made of, a bunch of inbred Assyroids.

Y-DNA haplogroup: J1 (Assyrian subclade)
Autosomal DNA: 84.2% Assyrian + 15.8% Pathan @1.32 (copy-pasted from your oracle results)
Phenotype: Assyroid

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[Pahli]

How dare you call anyone subhuman? It looks funny when you act racist. This is what you are made of, a bunch inbred Assyroids.

Y-DNA haplogroup: J1 (Assyrian subclade)
Autosomal DNA: 84.2% Assyrian + 15.8% Pathan @1.32 (copy-pasted from your oracle results)
Phenotype: Assyroid

Not quite what people have classified me as :lol:

And I'm not a racist, I just think you along with some of the other retards with deformed faces and lowered IQ are fucking hilarious and retarded as well.

[Danishmend]

These obnoxious kıros (gathered like hyenas) were making fun of an Azerbaijani woman a few hours ago, now they are pretending to be moral guardians. Nice.

[Pahli]

These obnoxious kıros (gathered like hyenas) were making fun of an Azerbaijani woman a few hours ago, now they are pretending to be moral guardians. Nice.

Are you first in line to become the angel of morality? You're one of the worst pieces of shits on this forum and your butt gets hurt more and more for each day that passes :laugh:

[Danishmend]

Let's start a petition to have dainshmends mod status taken away. He is acting really immature for a moderator. Who PURPOSELY makes these threads?

Go on.
https://www.change.org/start-a-petition

[Danishmend]

Bacha-bazi is a historically Turkic practice.


It's 100% Indo-Iranian practice and dates back to Alexander's time. Alexander watching the performance of a Bacha-Bazi boy, obnoxious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8sw-Jge6RA

[Danishmend]

The origin of Bacha-Bazi: Alexander transforms Indo-Iranians into a horde Bacha-Bazi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8sw-Jge6RA

[Pennywise]

Not that this is highly a thing in Afghanistan, because it's not, and it gets overplayed, but you are really a horrible disgusting person for using child molestation as humor to troll someone.

You are missing the point here. It's not the child molestation that is being taken attention to, it's the Afghan cultural degenerancy that penetrated into the every layer of the society.

[Kamal900]

:picard2:

Why is a middle aged man like yourself is picking on a 20 year old? Act more mature.

[Danishmend]

You are missing the point here. It's not the child molestation that is being taken attention to, it's the Afghan cultural degenerancy that penetrated into the every layer of the society.

The tradition even predates Alexander's conquest of Bactria, it's part of their culture.

[Danishmend]

:picard2:

Why is a middle aged man like yourself is picking on a 20 year old? Act more mature.

You are older than me. Too long have I tolerated his provocative posts.

[Pennywise]

The tradition even predates Alexander's conquest of Bactria, it's part of their culture.

Yeah, even the Turkish Köçeks are a thing derived from Iranians or Iranics in general, due to the close proximity unfortunately.

[Halgurd]

Too long have I tolerated his provocative posts.

Awwww so saaaad *cry*

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

[I]Bacha bāzī is a slang term in Afghanistan for a wide variety of activities that involve child sexual abuse and pederasty. The perpetrator is commonly called bacha Baz (meaning "pedophile" in Persian). It may include to some extent child pornography, sexual slavery, and child prostitution in which prepubescent and adolescent boys are sold to wealthy or powerful men for entertainment and sexual activities.[1] Bacha bazi has existed throughout history,[2] and is currently reported in various parts of Afghanistan

http://imgs.cb.com.cn/2/2010-09-15/272258608420733041230699499.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/07/07/2FDDA0AF00000578-0-image-a-21_1452152597908.jpg
http://kilavuzkirpi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/bacha_bazi2.jpg

WELCOME TO THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF ISLAM

[Danishmend]

WELCOME TO THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF ISLAM

The tradition predates Islam though.

Alexander and his Indo-Iranian bacha-bazi dancers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8sw-Jge6RA

[Myanthropologies]

Good to see kıros moan like animals when I hit back.

I don't understand why you make fun of Afghans and their tragedies so much, especially this one. You do realize that bache baze isn't exclusive to Pashtuns, but happens to Afghan Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Turkmens as well? You're indirectly making fun of your "Turkic bretheren."

[Danishmend]

I don't understand why you make fun of Afghans and their tragedies so much, especially this one. You do realize that bache baze isn't exclusive to Pashtuns, but happens to Afghan Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Turkmens as well? You're indirectly making fun of your "Turkic bretheren."

It's 100% Pashtun tradition. Uzbeks and Turkmens don't practice it.

[Myanthropologies]

You are missing the point here. It's not the child molestation that is being taken attention to, it's the Afghan cultural degenerancy that penetrated into the every layer of the society.

It stemmed from your culture anyways.

[Myanthropologies]

It's 100% Pashtun tradition. Uzbeks and Turkmens don't practice it.

Lol no, it actually came from Turkic people. Do your research.

[Zhǎng gōngshǒu]

Stop triggering flashbacks to Myanthropologies Bacha-Bazi boy days.

[Registan]

Lol no, it actually came from Turkic people. Do your research.

It happens in Uzbek and Tajik areas as well, don't mind these trolls. The last Amir of Bukhara (Uzbek) was the most notorious Bacha-baz of the 20th century.

[Myanthropologies]

Yeah, even the Turkish Köçeks are a thing derived from Iranians or Iranics in general, due to the close proximity unfortunately.

It not about who started it. It is that this degenerate of a moderator I making fun of child molestation because he thinks it is a funny troll attempt, but it is not. He is mocking boys that are clearly being hazed and tortured and asking to "classify them" as a joke. He's a fucking sicko. I bet he wants to be on a bache bazi dance so bad, that's why it's on his mind.

[LieDetector]

Gracile

[Myanthropologies]

Stop triggering flashbacks to Myanthropologies Bacha-Bazi boy days.

Says the guy with a fake female internet identity. Your twinky mentally derranged self was probably the bache bazi in American prisons.

[Pennywise]

Lol no, it actually came from Turkic people. Do your research.

Show me a source that proves this tradition was exist among Turkic peoples in mediveal ages. It was exist among Iranians even in Ancient times.

[Danishmend]

Lol no, it actually came from Turkic people. Do your research.

It is 100% Indo-Iranian tradition. Alexander enjoying Indo-Iranian bacha-bazi performance.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8sw-Jge6RA

[Myanthropologies]

Show me a source that proves this tradition was exist among Turkic peoples in mediveal ages. It was exist among Iranians even in Ancient times.

Go look at the one Registan posted on the second page and stop being such a lazy asshole. The source is already there

[Pennywise]

Go look at the one Registan posted on the second page and stop being such a lazy asshole. The source is already there

Those 'sources' are giving only examples from 19th century. We are talking about a thing your people has been doing since the Alexander's time (at least). My question was rhetoric, I knew you won't be able to bring a shit to me.

[Registan]

Mahmud Ghaznavi was a Bacha-baz as well, this is well known.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_of_Ghazni

This kid was his sex-slave and eventually became a general in his army:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Ayaz

Ghaznawids, Uzbeks, and Ottomans all engaged in Bacha-bazi but these Turks are trying to claim it's an exclusively Pashtun practice :picard2:

[Myanthropologies]

Those 'sources' are giving only examples from 19th century. We are talking about a thing your people has been doing since the Alexander's time (at least). My question was rhetoric, I knew you won't be able to bring a shit to me.

That is hilarious coming from a pathological liar such as yourself. Bache bazi was not in afghanistan since Alexander the great times, and there weren't even pashtuns back then, but bactrians, dumbass. You're so bad at lying. Look yourself, it came from Turkic people


Bacha bazi is a form of pederasty which has been prevalent in Central Asia since antiquity. It waned in the big cities after World War I, for reasons that dance historian Anthony Shay describes as "Victorian era prudery and [the] severe disapproval of colonial powers such as the Russians, British, and French, and the post-colonial elites who had absorbed those Western colonial values."[18]


Portrait of Dancing bacha (child). Painting by Vasily Vereshchagin
A number of Western travellers through Central Asia have reported on the phenomenon of the bacchá. Visiting Turkestan in 1872 to 1873, Eugene Schuyler observed that, "here boys and youths specially trained take the place of the dancing-girls of other countries. The moral tone of the society of Central Asia is scarcely improved by the change". His opinion was that the dances "were by no means indecent, though they were often very lascivious." At this date there were already signs of official disapproval of the practice. Wrote Schuyler:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

[user_]

Pedophilia, especially gay pedophilia was not something strange for Ottoman Empire, so be quite plz.

[Danishmend]

Pedophilia, especially gay pedophilia was not something strange for Ottoman Empire, so be quite plz.

You better keep your Georgian armenoid nose out of this thread, the Ottoman harem was full of women, although there are rumors about some sovereigns being bisexuals I've never heard of any pedophilia case. The dynasty's royal culture was mainly based on the remnants of Eastern Roman Empire, what we call Turkish bath is Islamic variant of the Roman bath for instance. There was a huge difference between the Ottoman court and ordinary Turks. All the gay stuff the Ottomans had was mainly Eastern Roman in origin.

[Pennywise]

That is hilarious coming from a pathological liar such as yourself. Bache bazi was not in afghanistan since Alexander the great times, and there weren't even pashtuns back then, but bactrians, dumbass. You're so bad at lying. Look yourself, it came from Turkic people



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

It is not ORIGINALLY a Turkic tradition, which part of this sentence you can't understand you retard? They got it from the local Iranians of Central Asia, it's an Indo-Iranic tradition, barrowed from them, not from the Gokturks or Xiongnus.

[user_]

You better keep your Georgian armenoid nose out of this thread, the Ottoman harem was full of women, although there are rumors about some sovereigns being bisexuals I've never heard of any pedophilia case. The dynasty's royal culture was mainly based on the remnants of Eastern Roman Empire, what we call Turkish bath is Islamic variant of the Roman bath for instance. There was a huge difference between the Ottoman court and ordinary Turks. All the gay stuff the Ottomans had was mainly Eastern Roman in origin.

ottoman harems were full of boys too ;)

Why most turks act here like they are something different, not from this world, while you are as other MENA people :) Just with more Balkanic, Cucasian and Central Asian admixture.
Your culture is very close to Iranian culture.
So look at yourself in the mirror, before you start to insult other people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3mXypZROVI

[Pahli]

ottoman harems were full of boys too ;)

Why most turks act here like they are something different, not from this world, while you are as other MENA people :) Just with more Balkanic, Cucasian and Central Asian admixture.
Your culture is very close to Iranian culture.
So look at yourself in the mirror, before you start to insult other people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3mXypZROVI

Lololol the reality they cannot accept no matter how many times you tell them, they're gonna do a bitch flip on you in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

[Danishmend]

It is not ORIGINALLY a Turkic tradition, which part of this sentence you can't understand you retard? They got it from the local Iranians of Central Asia, it's an Indo-Iranic tradition, barrowed from them, not from the Gokturks or Xiongnus.

According to Ahmad Ibn Fadlan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Fadlan) (10th-century Arab traveler) homosexuality was regarded by the Oghuz as a terrible sin.




History of the Oghuz (https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=2aM1Kp--SXQC&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=punishment+for+homosexuality+was+ibn+fadlan&source=bl&ots=lhSsCMc13w&sig=WDM6gb4I7YsRlTeEoCd9QzyKOgs&hl=tr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjR_Nnx6-LPAhVC6xoKHcRlC4oQ6AEILzAC#v=onepage&q=punishment%20for%20homosexuality%20was%20ibn%20f adlan&f=false)

One of the Oghuz tribesman escorting Ibn-Fadlan asks him apparently joking, "What does the ruler want from us? He is killing us with cold. If we knew what he wants we would give it to him." Ibn Fadlan, "All he wants is that you people should say 'There is no God save Allah'." The Turk laughed, "If we knew that it is so, we should say so."

Fadlan mentions that homosexuality was regarded by the Turks as a terrible sin.

[Danishmend]

ottoman harems were full of boys too ;)
There were no boys in the harem you idiot, only African eunuchs, they were known as "kızlar ağası". Ottoman dynasty =/= ordinary Turks. This is the price of creating an empire that strechted from the Persian Gulf to the walls of Vienna. Degeneration.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/images/content/Aga5.jpg




Why most turks act here like they are something different, not from this world, while you are as other MENA people :) Just with more Balkanic, Cucasian and Central Asian admixture.
You are basically Armenians, minus 10% SW Asian admixture. Why do you act like you are something unique? Why don't your embrace your MENA genome?




Your culture is very close to Iranian culture.
Our culture is as close to Iranian culture as your culture is close to Armenian.




So look at yourself in the mirror, before you start to insult other people.
Georgian nose is probably the biggest nose in the world, I've been to Georgia twice and have seen it myself. This is not an insult but a fact.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3mXypZROVI
These are köçeks that we were talking about in the earlier pages, and they are merely dancers.

[Pennywise]

According to Ahmad Ibn Fadlan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Fadlan) (10th-century Arab traveler) homosexuality was regarded by the Oghuz as a terrible sin.




History of the Oghuz[/URL]

One of the Oghuz tribesman escorting Ibn-Fadlan asks him apparently joking, "What does the ruler want from us? He is killing us with cold. If we knew what he wants we would give it to him." Ibn Fadlan, "All he wants is that you people should say 'There is no God save Allah'." The Turk laughed, "If we knew that it is so, we should say so."

Fadlan mentions that homosexuality was "regarded by the Turks as a terrible sin.

Homosexuality and fornication were considered a huge sin and the punishment was brutal execution among the mediveal Turks. Of course things like Bacha-Bazi wasn't exist among them at that times. It's a rather recent thing among some Central Asian Turkic nations, dates back barely 19th century. Clearly barrowed from the local Iranics.

[Danishmend]

The biggest nose of the world belongs to a Kartvelian-speaker from the Turkish side of the border.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/--2GYpelSSIY/UOijI0F8NZI/AAAAAAAAMYU/R-xztbSm2N8/biggest_nose_01_thumb.jpg?imgmax=800

[user_]

There were no boys in the harem you idiot, only African eunuchs, they were known as "kızlar ağası".



The same goes for you then? You are basically Armenians, minus 10% SW Asian admixture. Why do you act like you are something unique?



Our culture is as close to Iranian culture as your culture is close to Armenian.



Georgian nose is probably the biggest nose in the world, I've been to Georgia twice and have seen it myself. This is not an insult but a fact.



These are köçeks that we were talking about in the earlier pages, and they are merely dancers.



Yes, Georgians are same as Armenians but without SW Asian, and South Asian admixture, it's not big secret :)
And Turks are same as Georgians, but with SW Asian, South Asian and some Central Asian admixture.

Why should i accept, that Armenian culture is same as Georgian? It is you, who have to accept that Turkish, Armenian, Iranian, Kurdish culture is quite similar.
Georgian on the other hand has Caucasian culture.

[Pahli]

Yes, Georgians are same as Armenians but without SW Asian, and South Asian admixture, it's not big secret :)
And Turks are same as Georgians, but with SW Asian, South Asian and some Central Asian admixture.

Why should i accept, that Armenian culture is same as Georgian? It is you, who have to accept that Turkish, Armenian, Iranian, Kurdish culture is quite similar.
Georgian on the other hand has Caucasian culture.

Don't forget that the poor Seljuqs had their asses handed by a little Georgian Kingdom :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian%E2%80%93Seljuk_wars

Not so great Seljuq Empire :laugh:

[Pennywise]

Lololol the reality they cannot accept no matter how many times you tell them, they're gonna do a bitch flip on you in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

Which reality my Kıro friend? Do you feel closer to Turks while they taking this as an insult? You and your Iranic buttbuddies are an insult object for most Turks, what's with this insistence? Have some self respect.

[user_]

The biggest nose of the world belongs to a Kartvelian-speaker from the Turkish side of the border.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/--2GYpelSSIY/UOijI0F8NZI/AAAAAAAAMYU/R-xztbSm2N8/biggest_nose_01_thumb.jpg?imgmax=800

I'm sure this guy with deformed nose is Georgian, cause he does not look nothing like Turk.

[Pahli]

Which reality my Kıro friend? Do you feel closer to Turks while they taking this as an insult? You and your Iranic buttbuddies are an insult object for most Turks, what's with this insistence? Have some self respect.

Well you should see us as your ancestors :laugh: since you exist thanks to us :)

[Pennywise]

Well you see us as your ancestors :laugh: since you exist thanks to us :)

Your ancestors were bunch of goat fuckers in the Zagros mountains for thousands of years, what are you talking about?

[Pahli]

Your ancestors were bunch of goat fuckers in the Zagros mountains for thousands of years, what are you talking about?

Talk for yourself, my ancestors didn't have animal fetish unlike your kind :laugh:

[Danishmend]

Don't forget that the poor Seljuqs had their asses handed by a little Georgian Kingdom :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian%E2%80%93Seljuk_wars

Not so great Seljuq Empire :laugh:

Turks subjugated Georgia in the 11th century, conquered Kars and burned Tbilisi to the ground. The Kingdom of Georgia became a tributary state to the Great Seljuk Empire.

This was soon followed by even larger inroads, led by Yaʿqub and ʿIsā-Böri. On June 24, 1080,[1] the half-nomadic Turks began to arrive en masse in the southern provinces of Georgia, quickly moving deeper into the country and overrunning Asispori, Klarjeti, Shavsheti, Adjara, Samtskhe, Kartli, Argueti, Samokalako, and Chqondidi.[4] The key towns of Kutaisi and Artanuji and the vibrant Christian hermitages of Klarjeti were all burnt down. Those who survived the fighting had to flee to the mountains, where many of them found their death of cold and starvation.[1]

Watching his kingdom being destroyed, George II, in despair, repaired to Isfahan, to Malik Shah, who treated the Georgian monarch with much consideration and promised security from the nomads in exchange of a tribute (kharaj).[5]

Why do you masturbate over wars that took place between two non-Kurdish peoples by the way? Kurds, Georgians, Assyrians (your ancestors), Armenians, Persians, Lurs, Anatolian Greeks, Arabs, Laz etc, all of them were subjects of the Great Seljuk Empire.



And Turks are same as Georgians, but with SW Asian, South Asian and some Central Asian admixture.
That is an OWD way of putting it. Anatolian Turks can be modelled as a mixture between Meditterenean/WestAsian and Central Asian populations, we barely have anything to do with Georgians. We have more Hunter Gatherer (EHG and WHG), more East Eurasian and less EEF and Iran_Neolithic admixture.
http://i.hizliresim.com/yVrEnn.png
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Kadu_album/West_Central_Eurasia.png (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/Kadu_album/media/West_Central_Eurasia.png.html)
http://i.hizliresim.com/WbL064.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/WbL064)



Why should i accept, that Armenian culture is same as Georgian? It is you, who have to accept that Turkish, Armenian, Iranian, Kurdish culture is quite similar.
Georgian on the other hand has Caucasian culture.
All of them are different cultures, although they overlap with each other.

[Wadaad]

Homosexuality and fornication were considered a huge sin and the punishment was brutal execution among the mediveal Turks. Of course things like Bacha-Bazi wasn't exist among them at that times. It's a rather recent thing among some Central Asian Turkic nations, dates back barely 19th century. Clearly barrowed from the local Iranics.

In fact, the act of pederasty in Central Asia was known historically as the 'Persian vice' and was documented in English as early as 200 years ago

http://i.imgur.com/lIGQT1a.jpg

[Danishmend]

I'm sure this guy with deformed nose is Georgian, cause he does not look nothing like Turk.

Exactly, he is 100% Kartvelian.

[user_]

That is an OWD way of putting it. Anatolian Turks can be modelled as a mixture between Meditterenean/WestAsian and Central Asian populations, we barely have anything to do with Georgians. We have more Hunter Gatherer (EHG and WHG), more East Eurasian and less EEF and Iran_Neolithic admixture.

What is OWD? Georgians have highest West Asian or Caucasian admixture in the world, but unlike other West Asians Georgians (and north caucasians) have no south shifted admixtures, or have just a little.
And you posted here georgian guy with biggest nose in the world, and he looks caucasian, but not MENA as many Turks do, unlike Georgians ; )

[Danishmend]

What is OWD? Georgians have highest West Asian or Caucasian admixture in the world, but unlike other West Asians Georgians (and north caucasians) have no south shifted admixtures, or have just a little.
Yes you do, are you blind? Do you think CHG-EEF, Iran_Neolithic, Anatolia_Neolithic and Natufian are northern components? These are the components you are made of. What a wannabe.
http://i.hizliresim.com/yVrEnn.png




And you posted here georgian guy with biggest nose in the world, and he looks caucasian, but not MENA as many Turks do, unlike Georgians ; )

He looks like a depigmented Armenian, as most Georgians do.

[Pennywise]

This Georgian retard with his ignorancy about history and genetics doesn't worth to spend time. Just get the fuck out and mind your own business you Caucasian mountain animal.

[user_]

He looks like a depigmented Armenian, as most Georgians do.

And if he was pigmented and had SW Asian admixture he could look Turkish, like this guy on the left.
http://b.pix.ge/z/08v1p.jpg (http://pix.ge/)

[Danishmend]

And if he was pigmented and had SW Asian admixture he could look Turkish, like this guy on the left.
http://b.pix.ge/z/08v1p.jpg (http://pix.ge/)

How many times do I have to post this chart? You are made of EEF-CHG, Natufian, Anatolian Neolithic and Iran Neolithic, none of these components are "northern" (you wish they were). There is nothing wrong with the ice-cream guy by the way.
http://i.hizliresim.com/yVrEnn.png

Georgians are basically lighter Armenoids.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/--2GYpelSSIY/UOijI0F8NZI/AAAAAAAAMYU/R-xztbSm2N8/biggest_nose_01_thumb.jpg?imgmax=800
http://bashny.net/uploads/images/00/00/13/2013/05/06/b03b076816.jpg
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BXXCHP/georgian-man-with-face-full-of-character-outside-sveti-tskhoveli-cathedral-BXXCHP.jpg

[user_]

How many times do I have to post this chart? You are made of EEF-CHG, Natufian, Anatolian Neolithic and Iran Neolithic, none of these components are "northern" (you wish they were). There is nothing wrong with the ice-cream guy by the way.
http://i.hizliresim.com/yVrEnn.png

Georgians are basically lighter Armenoids.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/--2GYpelSSIY/UOijI0F8NZI/AAAAAAAAMYU/R-xztbSm2N8/biggest_nose_01_thumb.jpg?imgmax=800
http://bashny.net/uploads/images/00/00/13/2013/05/06/b03b076816.jpg
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BXXCHP/georgian-man-with-face-full-of-character-outside-sveti-tskhoveli-cathedral-BXXCHP.jpg

This darkest Georgians you find still look nothing like Arabs, like many Turks do. And it's okay, cause you have borders with Arab countries.

Caucasian admixture is not "northern", but it not gives you dark pigment, it just gives you caucasoid brutal face ; )


I have never seen on this forum such an aggressive members like Turks, they try to insult neighbors and they look like poor mad dog trying to bite everyone.
Dear Turks, you have to realize, that you are not from another planet and you look like your neighbors.

[Danishmend]

This darkest Georgians you find still look nothing like Arabs
That is a random Georgian that google gave me. I've seen Georgians in Georgia with my own eyes by the way, there is nothing to hide. And there is also nothing wrong with that guy. Are you ashamed of your own people?




like many Turks do. And it's okay, cause you have borders with Arab countries.
Yes we do, was that supposed to be an insult?




Caucasian admixture is not "northern", but it not gives you dark pigment, it just gives you caucasoid brutal face ; )
Stop using that gay smiley. ~95% of your autosomal dna is comprised of southern components.



I have never seen on this forum such an aggressive members like Turks, they try to insult neighbors and they look like poor mad dog trying to bite everyone.
We have too many enemies on this forum, which reflects our country's political and historical role in the region. Though that Pashtun kid's obsession with Turks is a whole different case. You are a small insignificant armenoid nation living on the southern slopes of the Caucasus. Why would anyone give a fuck about you? What is your country's role in the region? Our enemies are consisted of a hundred nations and cave tribes such as Kurds, who are your enemies? As if we love shitstorm threads where every kind of kıro descends upon us.

[user_]

That is a random Georgian that google gave me. I've seen Georgians in Georgia with my own eyes by the way, there is nothing to hide. And there is also nothing wrong with that guy. Are you ashamed of your own people?



Yes we do, was that supposed to be an insult?



Stop using that gay smiley. ~95% of your autosomal dna is comprised of southern components.


We have too many enemies on this forum, which reflects our country's political and historical role in the region. Though that Pashtun kid's obsession with Turks is a whole different case. You are a small insignificant armenoid nation living on the southern slopes of the Caucasus. Why would anyone give a fuck about you? What is your country's role in the region? Our enemies are consisted of a hundred nations and cave tribes, who are your enemies? As if we love shitstorm threads where every kind of kıro descends upon us.
Oh, nobody loves you? ;(

Don't play like you are a great empire, you are just a USA puppet (or already Russia's puppet now??) ))
There are just 2 real empires influencing region, USA and Russia.

[Danishmend]

Oh, nobody loves you? ;(

Don't play like you are a great empire
I don't, but we do have too many enemies, a thousand times more than you have. Have you ever checked the list of countries supporting PKK?



you are just a USA puppet (or already Russia's puppet now??) ))
What does that make you then? It was Turkey that rebuilt your country and your army after the Russian anal penetration of Georgia.

[user_]

I don't, but we do have too many enemies, a thousand times more than you have. Have you ever checked the list of countries supporting PKK?


What does that make you then? It was Turkey that rebuilt your country and your army after the Russian anal penetration of Georgia.

Georgians don't have an ambition being an Empire, it's you telling us about Great Turkish Empire, while you are just West's serving boys in the region )))
So come down to Earth and start to live peacefully with neighbors with whom you share many things.

[Danishmend]

Georgians don't have an ambition being an Empire, it's you telling us about Great Turkish Empire, while you are just West's serving boys in the region )))
So come down to Earth and start to live peacefully with neighbors with whom you share many things.

I don't run the country. I also hate neo-Ottomanists.

[zarzian]

In fact, the act of pederasty in Central Asia was known historically as the 'Persian vice' and was documented in English as early as 200 years ago

http://i.imgur.com/lIGQT1a.jpg

Actually this tradition is a turkish one,


The culture of the köçek, which flourished from the 17th to the 19th century, had its origin in the customs in Ottoman palaces, and in particular in the harems. Its genres enriched both the music and the dance of the Ottomans.[1]

The support of the Sultans was a key factor in its development, as the early stages of the art form was confined to palace circles.[4] From there the practice dispersed throughout the Empire by means of independent troupes.[1]

Some Turkish Homesexual Pedephelia
https://s22.postimg.org/sboeh55ht/IMG_0106.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/houlbpxcd/)photo hosting (https://postimage.org/)
https://s16.postimg.org/eufjfgup1/IMG_0107.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ds5cwxbvl/)photo hosting sites (https://postimage.org/)

[Pahli]

I don't, but we do have too many enemies, a thousand times more than you have. Have you ever checked the list of countries supporting PKK?


What does that make you then? It was Turkey that rebuilt your country and your army after the Russian anal penetration of Georgia.

We understood that you have too many enemies ... for what reason? I'd investigate a possible chain of mental retardation among you and the majority of Turkish users in here, even on the internet you behave like monkeys and degenerate jihadis / retarded nationalists. Stop crying over enemies when you behave like some subhuman and expect love and peace :(

[Pahli]

ANDID + ANGRY NEGRITO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/MS0d8b1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MS0d8b1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MS0d8b1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MS0d8b1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MS0d8b1.jpg

[Böri]

This Georgian retard with his ignorancy about history and genetics doesn't worth to spend time. Just get the fuck out and mind your own business you Caucasian mountain animal.

It's more like their Laz brethens from Turkey give them this courage to talk like that with Turks esp. seeing how Erdogan, proudly s•cking Saakashviliy and handing free Georgian passports in Black Sea provinces together with him. They think that Georgians are a class in Turkey like were Kipchaks or later Albanians in Egypt. An elite dominating a lower quality mass. Georgia must be given back to Russia, wanna see Kartvelians enslaved by Russ.


This darkest Georgians you find still look nothing like Arabs, like many Turks do. And it's okay, cause you have borders with Arab countries.

Caucasian admixture is not "northern", but it not gives you dark pigment, it just gives you caucasoid brutal face ; )


I have never seen on this forum such an aggressive members like Turks, they try to insult neighbors and they look like poor mad dog trying to bite everyone.
Dear Turks, you have to realize, that you are not from another planet and you look like your neighbors.

You also have Arab-like neighbours (Armenians) and having same religion as you. Don't put your Georgian nose into Turkish affairs, it's our problem how we identify.

[Myanthropologies]

What is OWD? Georgians have highest West Asian or Caucasian admixture in the world, but unlike other West Asians Georgians (and north caucasians) have no south shifted admixtures, or have just a little.
And you posted here georgian guy with biggest nose in the world, and he looks caucasian, but not MENA as many Turks do, unlike Georgians ; )

He basically admitted that he can be modeled as between Georgians and Central Asians, yet then claims "we have nothing to do with Georgians," loooool.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

^ Lmao that man will become another TA avatar ^^

I'm tempted....

[Registan]

Homosexuality and fornication were considered a huge sin and the punishment was brutal execution among the mediveal Turks. Of course things like Bacha-Bazi wasn't exist among them at that times. It's a rather recent thing among some Central Asian Turkic nations, dates back barely 19th century. Clearly barrowed from the local Iranics.

I already established that it is not recent. Mahmud Ghaznawi, who lived in the 11th century, was a pederast and homo. He was a proud Turk.

He introduced Islam to many Pashtuns. prolly introduced this practice as well

[Danishmend]

Actually this tradition is a turkish one,


The origin of Köçek dates back to the 18-19th century Ottoman Palace, which is definitely part of the Iranian influence on the Ottoman Palace and has nothing to do with the culture of ordinary Turks.

The Turkish word "köçek" is derived from the Persian word kuchak, meaning "little", "small", or "young", which itself is the Persian pronunciation of the Turkish word küçük, "little".



Bacha-bazi on the other hand exists among ordinary Indo-Iranians since the antiquity, it is said that Alexander turned the entire Indo-Iranian world into bacha-bazi dancers when he conquered them.

Bagoas was a eunuch exceptional in beauty and a lover of Darius [1] and later of Alexander the Great.

The Persian bacha-baz Bagoas dancing and trying to impress Alexander, his new master.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8sw-Jge6RA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsiS_F_dcL4



We understood that you have too many enemies ... for what reason? I'd investigate a possible chain of mental retardation among you and the majority of Turkish users in here, even on the internet you behave like monkeys and degenerate jihadis / retarded nationalists. Stop crying over enemies when you behave like some subhuman and expect love and peace :(
It is good to see the bacha-bazi thumbs up gang supporting each other with their fingers.



even on the internet you behave like monkeys

Certainly no one can compete with you when it comes to behaving like monkeys.


Its the same fucking shit you imbecile low IQ gypsy harem whore.

Mr. mongrelized Greek son of a whore, Persians cannot be modelled as Brahui + Syrian

What's up with Georgian in disguise son of a whore, a mongrelized Greek old fat fuck

A brain dead son of a whore has no clue on how much ASI Kurds have

Sons of whores like him will be rolled over by tanks if the people of Afghanistan weren't so deeply religious and more nationalistic.

I will fucking raid your villages you imbecile degenerate subhumans and sell your females on a busy market in Istanbul, got it?


These are just a small part of the garbage you have been posting. It is so obvious that you are trying to mimic Kastrioti1443 (I used to find some his posts hilarious to be honest), but you end up looking like this Kurdish guy from Diyarbakır.
http://i.hizliresim.com/ZYP33a.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/ZYP33a)

[Myanthropologies]

The origin of Köçek dates back to the 18-19th century Ottoman Palace, which is definitely part of the Iranian influence on the Ottoman Palace and has nothing to do with the culture of ordinary Turks.

The Turkish word "köçek" is derived from the Persian word kuchak, meaning "little", "small", or "young", which itself is the Persian pronunciation of the Turkish word küçük, "little".



Bacha-bazi on the other hand exists among ordinary Indo-Iranians since the antiquity, it is said that Alexander turned the entire Indo-Iranian world into bacha-bazi dancers when he conquered them.

Bagoas was a eunuch exceptional in beauty and a lover of Darius [1] and later of Alexander the Great.

The Persian bacha-baz Bagoas dancing and trying to impress Alexander, his new master.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8sw-Jge6RA





It is good to see the bacha-bazi thumbs up gang supporting each other with their fingers.



Certainly no one can compete with you when it comes to behaving like monkeys.









These are just a small part of the garbage you have been posting. It is so obvious that you are trying to mimic Kastrioti1443, but you end up looking like this Kurdish guy from Diyarbakır.
http://i.hizliresim.com/ZYP33a.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/ZYP33a)

You really know way too much about this subject. Way more than a normal person should know.

[Myanthropologies]

Good to see kıros moan like animals when I hit back.

This is you definition of "hitting back"? Lol. Making fun of 10-16 year olds who get hazed and raped (also something that came from your culture to begin with)?

[Pennywise]

Can't believe this Irano-Indian human wastes still trying to project Bacha-Bazi as a Turkic inventention without any proof. LOL. It's just pathetic, it is well known that Iranians have really degenerated cultural aspects for the rest of the world. Just accept it and it'll be all fine.

[Kamal900]

Can't believe this Irano-Indian human wastes still trying to project Bacha-Bazi as a Turkic inventention without any proof. LOL. It's just pathetic, it is well known that Iranians have really degenerated cultural aspects for the rest of the world. Just accept it and it'll be all fine.

A lot of the Iranian people I have met in RL are very OWD since they cling to the whole Aryan business very seriously(they want to be accepted as Europeans). Never heard the Tatars, Uzbeks and other Turkic peoples of Asia and Europe ever committing such barbaric acts either.

[Danishmend]

This is you definition of "hitting back"? Lol. Making fun of 10-16 year olds who get hazed and raped (also something that came from your culture to begin with)?

I'm not making fun of them, bacha-bazi is a part of your culture since the antiquity, the first mention of köçeks on the other hand dates back to the 17th century Ottoman Court, which reflects the degeneration process of the late Ottomans.

[Myanthropologies]

Can't believe this Irano-Indian human wastes still trying to project Bacha-Bazi as a Turkic inventention without any proof. LOL. It's just pathetic, it is well known that Iranians have really degenerated cultural aspects for the rest of the world. Just accept it and it'll be all fine.

You are literally the closest thing to brain dead that there is on this forum. Registan and I have already provided sources that it started in Central Asia. Turkestan.

[Myanthropologies]

A lot of the Iranian people I have met in RL are very OWD since they cling to the whole Aryan business very seriously(they want to be accepted as Europeans). Never heard the Tatars, Uzbeks and other Turkic peoples of Asia and Europe ever committing such barbaric acts either.

Girl, please.

[Ylla]

why thumb down?:picard1:

[Danishmend]

You are literally the closest thing to brain dead that there is on this forum. Registan and I have already provided sources that it started in Central Asia. Turkestan.

It didn't start in Turkistan you idiot, the entire Central Asia (including parts of Afghanistan) was known as "Turkestan" back then. Have you ever heard of bacha-bazi in Turkmenistan or Uzbekistan? It exists in your culture since the antiquity. Even Alexander had Indo-Iranian bacha bazi lovers.

If you are looking for an Afghanistani tradition that was introduced by the Turkic peoples, here is Buzkashi (aka Kökböri "blue wolf" by Turkic speakers). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzkashi
http://apps.npr.org/buzkashi/assets/img/painting.jpg

[Pennywise]

You are literally the closest thing to brain dead that there is on this forum. Registan and I have already provided sources that it started in Central Asia. Turkestan.

My imbecile friend, you provided no shit except for quoting from him. Those sources are from 19th century and the Ghaznavid population was consisted of predominantly Iranians too, and the state heavily effected by the local Iranian/Iranic culture. It is no surprise that he can only give example from a heavily Persainized Turkic state that established in modern day Iran, Afghanistan, Punjab and North India regions. That's no coincidence.

-You can't prove this shit was exist among other Turkic states.

-You can't prove this is first invented by Turkic peoples.

You time waster thick idiot. Stop lying around.

[meisje]

What is OWD? Georgians have highest West Asian or Caucasian admixture in the world, but unlike other West Asians Georgians (and north caucasians) have no south shifted admixtures, or have just a little.
And you posted here georgian guy with biggest nose in the world, and he looks caucasian, but not MENA as many Turks do, unlike Georgians ; )

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Georgians are 20% South Central Asian, It is similar for North Caucasians

[Kamal900]

It didn't start in Turkistan you idiot, have you ever heard of bacha-bazi in Turkmenistan or Uzbekistan? It exists in your culture since the antiquity. Even Alexander had Indo-Iranian bacha bazi lovers.

If you are looking for an Afghanistani tradition that was introduced by the Turkic peoples, here is Buzkashi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzkashi
http://apps.npr.org/buzkashi/assets/img/painting.jpg

I never heard of that so called tradition(bacha bazi or whatever) that is practiced by any Turkic peoples of Asia and Europe. I mean, Uzbeks and Tajiks are the closest neighbors of the Afghans, and yet, I never seen such stories in those countries either.

[Kamal900]

My imbecile friend, you provided no shit except for quoting from him. Those sources are from 19th century and the Ghaznavid population was consisted of predominantly Iranians too, and the state heavily effected by the local Iranian/Iranic culture. It is no surprise that he can only give example from a heavily Persainized Turkic state that established in modern day Iran, Afghanistan, Punjab and North India regions. That's no coincidence.

-You can't prove this shit was exist among other Turkic states.

-You can't prove this is first invented by Turkic peoples.

You time waster thick idiot. Stop lying around.

He wants to associate himself to Iranians, so be easy on him, rofl.

[Pahli]

The origin of Köçek dates back to the 18-19th century Ottoman Palace, which is definitely part of the Iranian influence on the Ottoman Palace and has nothing to do with the culture of ordinary Turks.

The Turkish word "köçek" is derived from the Persian word kuchak, meaning "little", "small", or "young", which itself is the Persian pronunciation of the Turkish word küçük, "little".



Bacha-bazi on the other hand exists among ordinary Indo-Iranians since the antiquity, it is said that Alexander turned the entire Indo-Iranian world into bacha-bazi dancers when he conquered them.

Bagoas was a eunuch exceptional in beauty and a lover of Darius [1] and later of Alexander the Great.

The Persian bacha-baz Bagoas dancing and trying to impress Alexander, his new master.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8sw-Jge6RA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsiS_F_dcL4



It is good to see the bacha-bazi thumbs up gang supporting each other with their fingers.



Certainly no one can compete with you when it comes to behaving like monkeys.









These are just a small part of the garbage you have been posting. It is so obvious that you are trying to mimic Kastrioti1443 (I used to find some his posts hilarious to be honest), but you end up looking like this Kurdish guy from Diyarbakır.
http://i.hizliresim.com/ZYP33a.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/ZYP33a)

Stop crying, I've seen much worse from Turkish users here before I even started insulting, its obviously only our fault and not yours :(

[Nebuchadnezzar]

I never heard of that so called tradition(bacha bazi or whatever) that is practiced by any Turkic peoples of Asia and Europe. I mean, Uzbeks and Tajiks are the closest neighbors of the Afghans, and yet, I never seen such stories in those countries either.

Ohh the Tajiks did it, the tajik group in Afghanistan mostly, aswell as pashtuns who've also exported to Pakistan.

[Pennywise]

Ohh the Tajiks did it, the tajik group in Afghanistan mostly, aswell as pashtuns who've also exported to Pakistan.

Tadjicks are Iranic too. This Iranic blood must be poisonous or something.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MpnpcCLvtM

[Kamal900]

Ohh the Tajiks did it, the tajik group in Afghanistan mostly, aswell as pashtuns who've also exported to Pakistan.

Indian muslims, Indic Pakistanis, Bengalis and etc don't do these acts, so your might be right on the fact that it was exported to Pakistan by these strange nomadic Iranic peoples.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

I'd imagine Hazara boys being novelty items, of the thriving Basha Baza industry of Afghanistan, for their lack of body hair.

[Kamal900]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MpnpcCLvtM

Is that even allowed in Paris? Yuck.

[Myanthropologies]

My imbecile friend, you provided no shit except for quoting from him. Those sources are from 19th century and the Ghaznavid population was consisted of predominantly Iranians too, and the state heavily effected by the local Iranian/Iranic culture. It is no surprise that he can only give example from a heavily Persainized Turkic state that established in modern day Iran, Afghanistan, Punjab and North India regions. That's no coincidence.

-You can't prove this shit was exist among other Turkic states.

-You can't prove this is first invented by Turkic peoples.

You time waster thick idiot. Stop lying around.

Just like you can't prove that it was started by iranics. The earliest piece of evidence that was brought up in this thread showed it stemming front Turks. And on bache baze, the picture on the wiki article takes place in Uzbekistan. Then on top of that, under the history section, it firsts notes Turkestan lol.

[Tyrone Jackson]

It's sad really, Pashtuns are ethnically identical to Indians however culturally they have picked up degenerate Iranic practices. We need to bring pathans back to there Indian roots. Hopefully Turks and Arabs can assist in this endeavour.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Just like you can't prove that it was started by iranics. The earliest piece of evidence that ws brought up in this thread showed it stemming front Turks. And on bache baze, the picture on the wiki article takes place in Uzbekistan. The on top of that, under the history section, it firsts notes Turkestan lol.

Aww man you can't blame the Bacha Bazis on turks, even if we hypothetically agree that the bacha bazi culture was introduced by Turks, isn't it odd that it stuck among the Iranics, specifically afghan Tajiks and pashtuns, more than any Turkic nation. :D

[Danishmend]

Thread closed. Enough of this disgusting Indo-Iranian tradition.