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Rolnik szuka zony
10-19-2016, 07:56 PM
Using pixels of course:) If you have callipers forget it, but most people don't...

https://s16.postimg.org/7fizzlool/image.jpg

Grab the Gauge
10-30-2016, 08:39 PM
LOL, is that you???? You're being far too generous with your inaccurate measurements. Hair does nt contribute to cephalic index, you'll want to narrow that "width" measurement down considerably, my microcephalic, Gypsy friend.

Rolnik szuka zony
11-13-2016, 12:46 PM
WOW:) No it wasn't me but doesn't matter if I will be doli or meso I'll appreciate it:)

The point is I posted it because nobody on this forum except few people maybe, have callipers so pixel estimation is better than nothing. Of course somebody with hair like a mop can't do that:)
And pixel method is certainly better than usual method on this forum - "My face is long so my head probably also".

And it's evident that if your head from the top is round you are brachy.
It's longish = meso.
It's clearly long = doli.

From some anthro book - doli / meso / brachy
https://s11.postimg.org/eaup3tlxf/heads.jpg

BUT I SAY IT AGAIN. IF YOU HAVE CALLIPERS FORGET THIS POST:)
If you don't have you can estimate if you are more roundheaded or more longerheaded with the aid of photo from the top.
That's it. Jesus is for fun only:)

Grab the Gauge
11-20-2016, 11:06 AM
From some anthro book - doli / meso / brachy
https://s11.postimg.org/eaup3tlxf/heads.jpg



LMFAO @ this photo. No son, this is a better photo:

Left- Dolicocephalic
Right - Brachycephalic


http://i.imgur.com/461pW1p.jpg?1

Rolnik szuka zony
11-20-2016, 11:11 AM
Interesing:) But what are trying to show? Do you know what is cephalic index? It's not about size moron, but about shape:)))))))))

Grab the Gauge
11-20-2016, 11:17 AM
Interesing:) But what are trying to show? Do you know what is cephalic index? It's not about size moron, but about shape:)))))))))

Actually, cephalic index and cranial size are causally related. Meaning your ridiculous photo is all the more inaccurate. Brachycephalic heads are much larger than dolicocephalic ones:



http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2006/02/cranial-size-and-shape.html



Cranial size and shape

S. P. Pickering (Correlation of brain and head measurements, and relation of brain shape and size to shape and size of the head, American Journal of Physical Anthropology, Volume 15, Issue 1, Date: October/December 1930, Pages: 1-52):

It is general knowledge that an increase in brain size runs parallel with an increase in head size and with a change from dolichocephaly to brachycephaly as we ascend the scale from the anthropoids to modern man. This appears primarily to be a volume phenomenon.

A. Thomson (quoted in the above paper) notes that:

Given a cavity of oval or ellptical form with elastic walls, the more its contents are increased the greater will be the tendency to assume a spherical shape.

Pickering studied cadavers and their weight and volume directly, rather than relying on estimations from cephalic measurements:

The specimens used in this work gave an average capacity for dolichocephalic skulls of 1402.8 cc.; for mesocephalic, 1474.8 and for brachycephalic, 1520.6 cc.

The same tendency was shown in the size of the brains. The average size of the brains in this series was for the dolichocephalic heads, 1135.4 cc.; for the mesocephalic, 1144.2 cc., and for the brachycephalic, 1180.7 cc.

The figures show a marked increase from the dolichocephalic to the brachycephalic type. Though the number of specimens of the dolichocephalic type is not sufficient to be conclusive proof, the fact that brachycephaly runs parallel with an increase in brain and head size is very evident.

Interestingly, according to K. Beals et al. (Brain size, cranial morphology, climate, and time machines. Current Anthropology, 25, 301-330. ) there is a +0.37 correlation between cranial capacity and the cephalic index, i.e., broader-headed, more brachycephalic populations also have bigger cranial capacities.

Rolnik szuka zony
11-20-2016, 11:22 AM
Are you normal? When in OP is something about size? I don't care about size completely:)
You mess in this thread only.

I don't posted this photo to measure it's actual size because it's impossible moron.

But it's fully possible estimate head shape from dividing pixel breadth and pixel length. Of course it didn't be super accurate but for sure it is possible to tell that this skull is not brachy for example.

Desperado
11-20-2016, 11:24 AM
Dienekes: proudly spreading unfounded BS since 2004.

Grab the Gauge
11-20-2016, 11:28 AM
Are you normal? When in OP is something about size? I don't care about size completely:)
You mess in this thread only.

I don't posted this photo to measure it's actual size because it's impossible moron.

But it's fully possible estimate head shape from dividing pixel breadth and pixel length. Of course it didn't be super accurate but for sure it is possible to tell that this skull is not brachy for example.

LOL, the skull's brachycephaly has already been reliably proven. No need for your continued battle against reality.

Grab the Gauge
11-20-2016, 11:30 AM
Dienekes: proudly spreading unfounded BS since 2004.

Dolicocephalic boys: running away from the truth since Mitochondrial Eve stepped out of Africa and got raped like a whore:

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DTF1G4/homo-sapiens-cranium-qafzeh-9-DTF1G4.jpg

Desperado
11-20-2016, 11:34 AM
Dolicocephalic boys: running away from the truth since Mitochondrial Eve stepped out of Africa and got raped like a whore:

My mitochondrial ancestor is the same as yours, genius.


http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DTF1G4/homo-sapiens-cranium-qafzeh-9-DTF1G4.jpg

is this supposed to mean something?

Grab the Gauge
11-20-2016, 11:38 AM
My mitochondrial ancestor is the same as yours, genius.



is this supposed to mean something?

The difference is one of us has a Y-DNA and autosomal DNA deficiency which causes the insufficient dolicocephalic skull shape as illustrated by Qafzeh 9, the 90,000 year old African whore who got gang raped by the Neanderthals.

Linebacker
11-20-2016, 11:40 AM
There is no other accurate way to measure without calipers,get calipers or don't measure because everything will be wrong.

Desperado
11-20-2016, 11:47 AM
The difference is one of us has a Y-DNA and autosomal DNA deficiency which causes the insufficient dolicocephalic skull shape as illustrated by Qafzeh 9, the 90,000 year old African whore who got gang raped by the Neanderthals.

tfw when neanderthal skulls are ridiculously dolicocephalic

http://public.media.smithsonianmag.com/legacy_blog/skulls.jpg

Grab the Gauge
11-20-2016, 11:52 AM
tfw when neanderthal skulls are ridiculously dolicocephalic

http://public.media.smithsonianmag.com/legacy_blog/skulls.jpg

Wrong. They were bracycephalic:


When measured from ophyron, a point on the frontal bone behind the browridges, the crania of these Neanderthals have the following lengths: three males, 193, 186, 187; three females, 185, 183, 186 mm. These are shorter than the French Upper Palaeolithic means, taken from the same point, of 195.6 mm. for males, and 188.6 mm. for females. The cranial indices calculated from these lengths are, in five out of eight Neanderthal cases, above 80.0. Thus there was, in the Neanderthal group as we know it, a brachycranial, or brachycerebral, tendency in brain form. That it may have done so in the case of the French brachycephals, notably Solutré #2, which has a cranial length of 182.5 mm., is by no means more than a suggestion.


http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-II07.htm


Neanderthal:


http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/images/La_chapelle_aux_saints_skull.gif



All three of the best-preserved Middle Paleolithic skulls from Krapina are roundheads, and the most complete specimen from Fontechevade is nearly so (cranial index about 79).

-- Earnest Hooton

Grab the Gauge
11-20-2016, 11:52 AM
http://public.media.smithsonianmag.com/legacy_blog/skulls.jpg

The skulls in this picture are not accurate to scale.

Grab the Gauge
11-20-2016, 11:57 AM
Bird's eye view of a Neanderthal skull. Cranial shape is impressive as fuck. That exotic pentagonoid parietal expansion. :cool:


http://www.dlt.ncssm.edu/tiger/360views/Hominid_Skull-H_Neanderthalensis_LaFerrassie_1_1200x900/top-bottom/Hominid_Skull-Homo_Neanderthalensis_LaFerassie_1_top-900.jpg

Rolnik szuka zony
11-20-2016, 12:03 PM
LOL, the skull's brachycephaly has already been reliably proven. No need for your continued battle against reality.

Prove? By you?:) Where?
Do you use calculator? So divide pixel breadth by pixel length and you have estimated CI for this head:) You must use Photoshop or other graphic program of course to know pixels.

But it's even simpler. If this head is similar in shape to long rectangle (and it is) is much longer than wider, so doli or meso (if rectangle is shorter).
If it's similar in shape to square as probably yours is brachy:)

No need to debate. It's simple dividing or geometry. IF two or three pixels are for short hair, it's not important. It never be brachy.

Of course it's estimation. For those who don't have callipers. But better than retarted CI estimation from frontal facial view...

Small hint for you. This head doesn't have browridges "to cut off":)
https://s16.postimg.org/7fizzlool/image.jpg

Rolnik szuka zony
11-20-2016, 12:16 PM
Cephalic /cranial index

http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/dpjo/v18n3/26f01.jpg

Do you understand now? Or it's too hard?

Grab the Gauge
11-20-2016, 12:17 PM
Prove? By you?:) Where?
Do you use calculator? So divide pixel breadth by pixel length and you have estimated CI for this head:) You must use Photoshop or other graphic program of course to know pixels.

But it's even simpler. If this head is similar in shape to long rectangle (and it is) is much longer than wider, so doli or meso (if rectangle is shorter).
If it's similar in shape to square as probably yours is brachy:)

No need to debate. It's simple dividing or geometry:) IF two or three pixels are for short hair, it's not important. It never be brachy. :)

https://s16.postimg.org/7fizzlool/image.jpg

La Chapelle Neanderthal:


Head breadth: 156.5mm
Head length from ophryon: 186mm

156.5 x 100 / 186 = cephalic index of 84 = just short of hyperbrachycephaly.


You are defeated. The numbers have proven your defective dolicocephalic vision wrong. Turn the computer off now.


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If it is shaped like a pentagon, it is brachy.

Brachy La Ferrassie:

http://www.dlt.ncssm.edu/tiger/360views/Hominid_Skull-H_Neanderthalensis_LaFerrassie_1_1200x900/top-bottom/Hominid_Skull-Homo_Neanderthalensis_LaFerassie_1_top-900.jpg

Grab the Gauge
11-20-2016, 12:21 PM
Small hint for you. This head doesn't have browridges "to cut off":)
https://s16.postimg.org/7fizzlool/image.jpg

Who is this small boy? Does a anybody know? His body looks very dimunitive with his narrow shoulders and his unmuscular, jelly-like body. The skull is very small and insufficiently formed. Does he have an iodine deficiency? Was his mother exposed to radioactive fallout?

HerrHabibi
11-20-2016, 12:27 PM
He must have been a test subject for the US military's gay bomb project.

Rolnik szuka zony
11-20-2016, 12:30 PM
La Chapelle Neanderthal:


Head breadth: 156.5mm
Head length from ophryon: 186mm

156.5 x 100 / 186 = cephalic index of 84 = just short of hyperbrachycephaly.


You are defeated. The numbers have proven your defective dolicocephalic vision wrong. Turn the computer off now.


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If it is shaped like a pentagon, it is brachy.

Brachy La Ferrassie:

http://www.dlt.ncssm.edu/tiger/360views/Hominid_Skull-H_Neanderthalensis_LaFerrassie_1_1200x900/top-bottom/Hominid_Skull-Homo_Neanderthalensis_LaFerassie_1_top-900.jpg

Ahahahaha:) What is that?
You show me some random neanderthal skull? Why? If I measured it? Or ever talked about it?
You are seriously mentally ill. If you don't have any clue you post random things:)

Or I are you trying to prove that pixel width and lenght are incorrect? Try some graphic program and measure it moron.

The last optioon that you think neanderthal skull is similar to modern head is as crazy as it doesn't worth any comment:)

Rolnik szuka zony
11-20-2016, 12:35 PM
Doli / meso / brachy
https://s22.postimg.org/pxgjyw335/piontas.jpg

Head from photo have similar shape to a or b.

For your info, pentagoid skull could be also doli or meso. Only skull which have round contour is always brachy.

I'm boring with your instant trolling and denying simple facts.

Rolnik szuka zony
11-20-2016, 12:37 PM
He must have been a test subject for the US military's gay bomb project.

Sock of Gtg

Rolnik szuka zony
11-20-2016, 12:38 PM
Another similar skull shapes:) Tell which is brachy?

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/Phoenician_Origin_ch12_files/image004.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T7vgq-Xit8w/UZZXwU4aKRI/AAAAAAAAGUo/qTVMWodjBsw/s1600/PSM_V19_D305_Top_view_of_skulls_of_various_races.j pg

Rolnik szuka zony
11-20-2016, 12:39 PM
Pentagoid and doli? Owgh:)