European Union vs Usa and Canada. Wich Is better?

[GiCa]

The old World or the New World?

[Profileid]

We'd still win handily without Canada :usa2:

[GiCa]

Human Development Index adjusted with Inequality

VERY HIGH DEVELOPED CREME DE LA CREME
Norway 0.893
Netherlands 0.861
Switzerland 0.861
Denmark 0.856
Germany 0.853
Iceland 0.846
Sweden 0.846
Ireland 0.836
Finland 0.834
Canada 0.832
United Kingdom 0.829
Slovenia 0.829
Czech Republic 0.823
Luxembourg 0.822
Belgium 0.82
Austria 0.816
Francia 0.811

HIGH DEVELOPED
Slovakia 0.791
Estonia 0.782
Spain 0.775
Italy 0.773
Hungary 0.769
Malta 0.767
Poland 0.76
United States 0.76
Greece 0.758
Cyprus 0.758
Lithuania 0.754
Portugal 0.744
Croatia 0.743
Belarus 0.741
Latvia 0.73
Montenegro 0.728
Russia 0.714
Romania 0.711
Argentina 0.711

IN DEVELOPING MEDIUM
Bulgaria 0.699
Kazakhstan 0.694
Serbia 0.693
Ukraine 0.689
Uruguay 0.678
Chile 0.661
Armenia 0.658
Georgia 0.652
Azerbaijian 0.652
Turkey 0.641
Bosnia Herzegovina 0.635
Albania 0.634
Macedonia 0.622
Moldova 0.618

[Bezprym]

Go back to school for fuck sake.

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Brazil

[Kriptc06]

:rolleyes:
http://geradormemes.com/media/created/4p9i0i.jpg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/cde20fc2b5009bf8b18cfdcb8ae5188e/tumblr_noys8mkgT11s0my1wo1_250.gif

[♥ Lily ♥]

Human Development Index adjusted with Inequality

Norway 0.893
Netherlands 0.861
Switzerland 0.861
Denmark 0.856
Germany 0.853
Iceland 0.846
Sweden 0.846
Ireland


Switzerland, Norway, and Iceland aren't in the European Union as they're independent nations who aren't part of the EU governed states. Great Britain will be leaving the EU too after Article 50 has been invoked. The Netherlands, Sweden, and Ireland (they voted no to the Lisbon Treaty) could be next to leave the EU.

[Dandelion]

America is full of morbidly obese people. This is due to the fact America is full of delicious yet fatty food and many can't resist that temptation. We have that problem far less depending on country of course.

For instance, I associate Spaniards with fatties. I remember, me and my cousin (God rest his soul) in Spain and a group of fat Spanish señoritas were interested in us (stopped for us and said 'hola' in a lip-biting way). My cousin in Dutch: "The burgerjoint is that way", while she smiled flirtingly at him.
Happened more than a decade ago though so the memory is vague, but hilarious nonetheless. Was funnier when it happened though. Sadly can't remember more details.

Still. US has a worse problem with fatties than even the worst Euros. This is just how it is.

[GiCa]

Brazil

Brazil Is not interesting for this Club Superior League (XD)

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Brazil Is not interesting for this Club Superior League (XD)

Brazil/India/China is the future ;)

with the chaos/end of Western world

[Kriptc06]

Brazil/India/China is the future ;)

with the chaos/end of Western world

You made a good point my tupi friend, lets see in 50+ years to come ;)

[Chippy]

Brazil/India/China is the future ;)

with the chaos/end of Western world

and Russia (BRIC).

[AphroditeWorshiper]

and Russia (BRIC).

yeah, I forget

[Kriptc06]

and Russia (BRIC).


yeah, I forget

;)
http://i.imgur.com/HL6x5Pr.jpg

115% agree

[GiCa]

I sense butthurt excluded south amwricans

[BeerBaron]

I don't understand the comparison. The EU has freedom of movement, Canada and the US do NOT.

The EU is the failed state of Eurabia, UK pulled more, more are following.

[Poise n Pen]

European union but not for long.

[KMack]

I don't understand the comparison. The EU has freedom of movement, Canada and the US do NOT.

The EU is the failed state of Eurabia, UK pulled more, more are following.

For USA/Cananda all you need is a passport, no big deal.

[Profileid]

Human Development Index adjusted with Inequality

VERY HIGH DEVELOPED CREME DE LA CREME
Norway 0.893
Netherlands 0.861
Switzerland 0.861
Denmark 0.856
Germany 0.853
Iceland 0.846
Sweden 0.846
Ireland 0.836
Finland 0.834
Canada 0.832
United Kingdom 0.829
Slovenia 0.829
Czech Republic 0.823
Luxembourg 0.822
Belgium 0.82
Austria 0.816
Francia 0.811

HIGH DEVELOPED
Slovakia 0.791
Estonia 0.782
Spain 0.775
Italy 0.773
Hungary 0.769
Malta 0.767
Poland 0.76
United States 0.76
Greece 0.758
Cyprus 0.758
Lithuania 0.754
Portugal 0.744
Croatia 0.743
Belarus 0.741
Latvia 0.73
Montenegro 0.728
Russia 0.714
Romania 0.711
Argentina 0.711

IN DEVELOPING MEDIUM
Bulgaria 0.699
Kazakhstan 0.694
Serbia 0.693
Ukraine 0.689
Uruguay 0.678
Chile 0.661
Armenia 0.658
Georgia 0.652
Azerbaijian 0.652
Turkey 0.641
Bosnia Herzegovina 0.635
Albania 0.634
Macedonia 0.622
Moldova 0.618

Adjusted for inequality?
Wtf does that mean. Convenient you use that instead of the real HDI

[zhaoyun]

Human Development Index adjusted with Inequality

VERY HIGH DEVELOPED CREME DE LA CREME
Norway 0.893
Netherlands 0.861
Switzerland 0.861
Denmark 0.856
Germany 0.853
Iceland 0.846
Sweden 0.846
Ireland 0.836
Finland 0.834
Canada 0.832
United Kingdom 0.829
Slovenia 0.829
Czech Republic 0.823
Luxembourg 0.822
Belgium 0.82
Austria 0.816
Francia 0.811

HIGH DEVELOPED
Slovakia 0.791
Estonia 0.782
Spain 0.775
Italy 0.773
Hungary 0.769
Malta 0.767
Poland 0.76
United States 0.76
Greece 0.758
Cyprus 0.758
Lithuania 0.754
Portugal 0.744
Croatia 0.743
Belarus 0.741
Latvia 0.73
Montenegro 0.728
Russia 0.714
Romania 0.711
Argentina 0.711

IN DEVELOPING MEDIUM
Bulgaria 0.699
Kazakhstan 0.694
Serbia 0.693
Ukraine 0.689
Uruguay 0.678
Chile 0.661
Armenia 0.658
Georgia 0.652
Azerbaijian 0.652
Turkey 0.641
Bosnia Herzegovina 0.635
Albania 0.634
Macedonia 0.622
Moldova 0.618

Fuck, we're slipping like a mothafucka.

[Profileid]

Fuck, we're slipping like a mothafucka.

Yeah look at the article for the inequality adjusted one. We went down 12 ranks from 2011-2014.
What the fuck?

[zhaoyun]

Yeah look at the article for the inequality adjusted one. We went down 12 ranks from 2011-2014.
What the fuck?

I have to see how they calculate "adjusted for inequality", sounds fishy to me.

[Profileid]

I have to see how they calculate "adjusted for inequality", sounds fishy to me.

Yeah same. It's pretty vague about how they do it. Even with the US's well known issue of economic inequality and crime,I find it hard to believe we'd drop 20 spots down.

[Ibericus]

America is full of morbidly obese people. This is due to the fact America is full of delicious yet fatty food and many can't resist that temptation. We have that problem far less depending on country of course.

For instance, I associate Spaniards with fatties. I remember, me and my cousin (God rest his soul) in Spain and a group of fat Spanish señoritas were interested in us (stopped for us and said 'hola' in a lip-biting way). My cousin in Dutch: "The burgerjoint is that way", while she smiled flirtingly at him.
Happened more than a decade ago though so the memory is vague, but hilarious nonetheless. Was funnier when it happened though. Sadly can't remember more details.

Still. US has a worse problem with fatties than even the worst Euros. This is just how it is.
I saw more fat people on one day in the USA than my whole previous life ..

[Ibericus]

Edit . double post

[Kamal900]

Canada only.

[Profileid]

America is full of morbidly obese people. This is due to the fact America is full of delicious yet fatty food and many can't resist that temptation. We have that problem far less depending on country of course.

For instance, I associate Spaniards with fatties. I remember, me and my cousin (God rest his soul) in Spain and a group of fat Spanish señoritas were interested in us (stopped for us and said 'hola' in a lip-biting way). My cousin in Dutch: "The burgerjoint is that way", while she smiled flirtingly at him.
Happened more than a decade ago though so the memory is vague, but hilarious nonetheless. Was funnier when it happened though. Sadly can't remember more details.

Still. US has a worse problem with fatties than even the worst Euros. This is just how it is.

The food thing is interesting. It's a combination of the fact the earliest Americans were Germanics who liked heavy food with our lovely entrepreneurial spirit,basically smashing like 3 different foods together just because we can.
Oreo cheesecake brownie milkshakes...
mmm

[MissMischief]

Europe has universal healthcare, less violent crime, more liberal sexual attitudes, more civil liberties, more vacation time, greater life expectancy, sexy accents and better cheese and chocolate ;)

[Amor Vincit Omnia]

if it was USA Vs EU i could chose EU...
however as the thread put togheter USA and Canada it is very hard make a choice

[zhaoyun]

Europe has universal healthcare, less violent crime, more liberal sexual attitudes, more civil liberties, more vacation time, greater life expectancy, sexy accents and better cheese and chocolate ;)

The US has more freedom and opportunities and choices. Plus, we can drive farther than two hours and still be in our country. :p

[Profileid]

Europe has universal healthcare, less violent crime, more liberal sexual attitudes, more civil liberties, more vacation time, greater life expectancy, sexy accents and better cheese and chocolate ;)

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Let me know when you can own guns or say something "racist" without getting thrown in jail. If Europe had better civil liberties, TA wouldn't be hosted in the United States.

[KMack]

I saw more fat people on one day in the USA than my whole previous life ..

What city?

[♥ Lily ♥]

EU = dictatorship and unelected rule. Forced unions always leads to dictatorships and greed.

The US and Canada are two separate nations;- the US did away with being ruled by monarchies after they won their Independence War, while Canada, Australia, and NZ are still ruled by Queen Elizabeth II.

Anyway, I'm voting for the US because Americans have the human right to democratically elect their Presidents, whereas Europeans aren't allowed to democratically vote for the EU Presidents living in foreign nations, who receive a massive salary, and who make the vast majority of the laws for 500 million Europeans in a foreign parliament in Belgium.

The illegal EU is an anti-democratic dictatorship run by bankers and eurocrats and fat pigs like Angela Merkel. Massive austerity riots have happened across Ireland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Cyprus and Greece, as the illegal EU crumbles. Northern Europeans are also upset with bailing-out the bankrupted 'P.I.I.G.S states' of Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain.

Happy Europeans?! I sure don't think so.... not with the harsh austerity cuts imposed on their nations by dictator Merkel.... and especially with the Islamic terrorist attacks that keep happening too. There's a lot of economic and social problems happening resulting in riots. The unelected bureaucrats (eurocrats) and bankers running the EU and their pro-EU puppet governments and pro-EU journalists and media don't care though - as they're all getting large salaries.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apYmAPhPXrA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT-ik0s7okc

Rather than uniting Europeans, the EU has caused northern, southern, eastern and western Europeans to bitch at each other and become more hostile instead, with the Italians and Greeks slagging-off the Germans as being 'dictators' and 'nazis' and branding the EU as 'The Fourth Reich'... and the German media calls the southern Europeans as 'lazy and incompetent people'as the German taxpayers had to bailout bankrupted southern EU states... and the Brits are upset with giving £375 million in taxmoney every single week to help fund the poorer EU states while the NHS in our own nation is being neglected.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbyslvRKcQA

The EU is being Islamified and is rapidly becoming Eurabia and we've seen the effects of muslims moving to wealthy EU states for funding and help.... suicide bombs and all kinds of atrocities have happened.... and continue to happen since the koran orders muslims to kill all non-muslims. I don't see why we should tolerate the intolerant.

'The EU has the worst excesses of the former Communist Soviet Union,' Dimitri Medvedev, former President of the Russian Federation.

The EU(SSR) has had unelected Presidents such as the former unelected EU President Barosso from a Portuguese Communist Party making the laws for each i̶n̶d̶e̶p̶e̶n̶d̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶E̶u̶r̶o̶p̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶n̶t̶r̶y̶ EU state... and former unelected EU President Herman van Rompuy (whose sister is in a Belgian Communist Party) also made the EU laws for over 500 million Europeans who never voted for him to be their foreign President.

The EU dictators removed democratically-elected leaders and governments in both Greece and Italy and replaced them with pro-EU puppet-goverments instead, and they ignored the Irish peoples vote of 'No' to the Lisbon Treaty as the EU dictators forced the Irish people to have a revote - until they changed their vote to yes and the EU got the vote they wanted (whilst the Eurocrats preach and lecture about being 'democratic!') Totally anti-democratic!

The EU is anti-European sovereignty, anti-European democracy, pro bankrupting EU states, pro Islamisation, pro unelected rule and pro dictatorship.

The EU has created an economic prison and forbids Europeans to do more free trade with the global market.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raF0nnQqgtk

In the United States, senators all speak in English during debates which is very practical and everyone can understand each other in their government... but in the EU parliament, millions in European taxmoney is wasted every year translating all the laws and paperwork into loads of different languages, whilst many interpreters are required during the parliamentary debates that are held in so many different languages in Brussels.

I hate the EU flag, the EU national anthem of 'O Sole Mio', the unelected EU presidents, the illegal EU parliament, etc... we don't need a foreign parliament, foreign presidents to govern our nation, an EU nationalist anthem, and a horrible flag of 5-pointed stars in a circle that gets used as toilet rag and the flag is burned by Eurosceptics in Great Britain.... as we have our own flag and an anthem that's sung in our own language and don't want foreign unelected rule of our country. The UK and the Netherlands were both fined once by the EU for flying our own national flags on an EU nationalist day.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViPm0GUxw-M

We never voted for this fat German bitch to decide and make so many of our laws in the UK! :mad: Gosh, how would American people feel if some foreign dictator living in a different country (and someone who nobody in their nation ever voted for to govern them,) suddenly dictated their laws to them?! :eek: I think it's absolutely outrageous to have unelected rule by foreign presidents.

Who is this German woman (who is the most powerful woman in the world) to dictate to the Cornish people and to all Europeans about their fishing laws?! Look at the impact the EU fishing laws are having on the environment.

Nobody in the UK (or anywhere outside of Germany) has voted for Angela Merkel to decide on our immigration laws. The EU has open immigration borders allowing unlimited and mass immigration of millions of gypsies from Romania and Bulgaria and also masses of muslim refugees. Once they get an EU passport, they're free to move anywhere they want in the EU states and can't be deported due to the EU laws.

Health tourists are abusing our NHS and costing British taxpayers £200 million every year.

http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/files/2014/08/RTR3Z73J.jpg

Anyway, don't worry about the votes of a handful of people on a forum;- look at the groups rising up in European nations (such as The Netherlands, France, Sweden, Germany and Eire) of people wanting freedom and democracy and independence from unelected foreign rule of their i̶n̶d̶e̶p̶e̶n̶d̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶n̶t̶r̶i̶e̶s̶ EU-governed states in Brussels;- the Irish are anti-EU as they voted no to the Lisbon Treaty. They should never have been forced to have a revote by Sarkozy, Schulz, Brown, Blair, Van Rompuy, Barosso, Merkel, et al.

At least the Irish people were allowed to have a vote on the signing-away of their nations' sovereignty at the Lisbon Treaty - even though their initial vote was ignored and held with contempt in the foreign EU parliament in Brussels... whereas the former unelected British PM Gordon Brown signed the Lisbon Treaty against the will of the British people who weren't allowed to vote on it, and this caused a lot of anger amongst British people after he signed that treaty... as it meant erasing more of our sovereignty and handing more powers over our nation to the Eurocrats in Brussels as the EU creeps towards a dictatorship - without the use of guns and wars this time - in the silent and gradual complete takeover of Europe ... but through treaty signings that aren't decided by the ordinary European people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_K8CL8HzFo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yzf6zWvg84

[zhaoyun]

What city?

Dothan, AL

[KMack]

LOL
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Let me know when you can own guns or say something "racist" without getting thrown in jail. If Europe had better civil liberties, TA wouldn't be hosted in the United States.

Dam LOL
http://13thdimension.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/37c5804.jpg

[KMack]

Dothan, AL

Unusual place to visit, keep driving south to Destin Santa Rosa, Mirimar lol

[Ibericus]

What city?
nyc

[GiCa]

Adjusted for inequality?
Wtf does that mean. Convenient you use that instead of the real HDI

It means inequality. Arabia Saudita has a Very High Human Develop but it drops very low for adjusted inequality. They have ultra rich people with a lot of privileges and low scum people

[Kriptc06]

EU>>>Canada>>>USA

[MissMischief]

The US has more freedom and opportunities and choices. Plus, we can drive farther than two hours and still be in our country. :p

Many European countries enjoy more personal, civil, and economic freedom than the US. I know that the myth of America being the epitome of freedom and democracy is ingrained into the minds of the American people as religious truth, but the reality is quite different.

Just look up The Human Freedom Index:
https://www.cato.org/blog/human-freedom-index-2016

[Balmung]

Europe has universal healthcare, less violent crime, more liberal sexual attitudes, more civil liberties, more vacation time, greater life expectancy, sexy accents and better cheese and chocolate ;)

I noticed that there is an American in your signature. Case and point.


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Let me know when you can own guns or say something "racist" without getting thrown in jail. If Europe had better civil liberties, TA wouldn't be hosted in the United States.

Exactly.

[MissMischief]

I noticed that there is an American in your signature. Case and point.

I don't dislike America/Americans. I actually would love to visit the country if I had the chance :P

[Dandelion]

Many European countries enjoy more personal, civil, and economic freedom than the US. I know that the myth of America being the epitome of freedom and democracy is ingrained into the minds of the American people as religious truth, but the reality is quite different.

Just look up The Human Freedom Index:
https://www.cato.org/blog/human-freedom-index-2016

True. Americans can deny the Holocaust (not to be advised) and have looser gun control, but if that is supposed to serve as the definition of freedom you have to come with stronger evidence.

[Mingle]

Should have added Aus-NZ as a third option.

[Enflamme]

LOL
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Let me know when you can own guns or say something "racist" without getting thrown in jail. If Europe had better civil liberties, TA wouldn't be hosted in the United States.

True. In France a guy called "Boris le Lay" (a Breton nationalist) said that there is no black Celt and that it never existed >>> he took two years in prison.

In France: an extra-European clandestine (black) sodomize (so rape) 12 times his 12-year-old stepdaughter >>> a few months in prison, but not a year or two years.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Should have added Aus-NZ as a third option.

Why only the Anglosphere nations? What about Japan, China and Russia?

I can't wait for Great Britain to be free from the shackles and chains of the EU dictatorship so we'll be able to elect the politicians who will make our laws, rather than having most of our laws made for us by foreign unelected presidents in the EU parliament.

I envy Americans being democratically allowed to elect the President that will govern them, as Europeans who are living under the EU dictatorship of Angela Merkel and unelected foreign EU Presidents don't have this basic human right to vote for the EU President;- it just works on a rotational basis instead of having democratically-elected presidents that people can vote for to make the laws for 500 million Europeans.

I'm sure American and Canadian citizens would feel annoyed if an unelected Mexican President, who nobody in the US or Canada voted for, made the vast majority of laws for them all.

EU = Eurabia/States of Islam and unelected rule/dictatorship.

Some pro-EU dictatorship European people are living in a pretentious bubble from reality, or in a remote and secluded area of the countryside far from terrorist attacks and bombs in large cities, but when Islamisation totally takes over their c̶o̶u̶n̶t̶r̶y̶ EU state, and terrorist attacks start to harm them too, then they'll wake-up and realise that the EU and Sharia Law and 'honour killings' and the forced Islamisation of their culture is hell.

At least the democratically-elected President Trump will protect Americans against open-borders and mass and uncontrolled immigration of muslim refugees and terrorist attacks and muslims following a koran book ordering for all non-muslims to be slayed and killed.

[Balmung]

I don't dislike America/Americans. I actually would love to visit the country if I had the chance :P

I knew deep down you knew this was a kickass country.


True. Americans can deny the Holocaust (not to be advised) and have looser gun control, but if that is supposed to serve as the definition of freedom you have to come with stronger evidence.

You don't have to do something nearly as edgy. You could make a harmless comment on twitter like....

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297128/matthew-doyle-arrest-muslim-tweet-brussels

Of course people get into trouble in the US for comments on social media, but it's usually for stuff like bomb threats which makes sense. Not cases of simply hurting someone's feelings or being insensitive.


The US has more freedom and opportunities and choices. Plus, we can drive farther than two hours and still be in our country. :p

That's certainly true. More Europeans come here to work than vice versa.

[Mingle]

Why only the Anglosphere nations? What about Japan, China and Russia? I can't wait to leave the EU dictatorship.

I guess South Korea-Japan would work too.

China and Russia are not first world nations so it wouldn't make sense to bring them up.

[KMack]

True. Americans can deny the Holocaust (not to be advised) and have looser gun control, but if that is supposed to serve as the definition of freedom you have to come with stronger evidence.

American soldiers liberated the German death camps. ?????????????

[Profileid]

Many European countries enjoy more personal, civil, and economic freedom than the US. I know that the myth of America being the epitome of freedom and democracy is ingrained into the minds of the American people as religious truth, but the reality is quite different.

Just look up The Human Freedom Index:
https://www.cato.org/blog/human-freedom-index-2016

hahaha so funny you'd use the Cato Institute, an American libertardian thinktank. Included as criteria for judging are "Rule of Law" and "Size of government". Important things perhaps but not tied with the same freedumbs you of all people value. Can you seriously give me an example of some of those personal,civil and economic freedoms though? Like I did with the US.

[Spyy]

VAGABA

[knowledge is king]

Europe should be better in the case, if you know an exact language of a particular country well.

But otherwise it would be awkward, when one can't understand a single word.

For me the decision is simple as 'speak English or GTFO'.

[Dandelion]

Jim Jeffries about American freedom


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjeq3NYUw2M

First of all, I do know people in this thread used actual arguments on to why the US be more free when talking about free speech. However, that's only by the letter and ruling out peer pressuring bullies outside of that law aspect (which the government could even abuse if need be, for corruption is also an American phenomenon).

Jim Jeffries remains spot on in that the US like no other suffers from blind patriotism and that same blind patriotism makes Americans defend anything just because it's Americans. Example: evangelicals blocking off stem cell research. Americans are known to defend anything happening inside their country and by their country if criticised for it by Europeans.

Blind patriotism of patriotardism rather is less common than it used to be though. This was more typical a decade ago when Americans still lived in their own bubble, because the internet was fairly new still and society was still ignorant about the world outside of their nation.

[Antimage]

If I could choose a place to live between usa, canada, australia, europe, i would choose australia. That being said, I'm ok with being where i am now

[Mortimer]

European Union is diverse, there is huge difference between Austria and Bulgaria in terms of income, quality of living etc.

But I would say (Austria/Germany>Canada>USA)

[Sekkmer]

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