American vs. Canadian Ethnic Origin

[Farcebook]

I found this interesting. Taken from Wikipedia:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/nomadct/dev7.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Censusdivisions-ethnic.png

Most common ethnicity in each area.

[Murphy]

I am surprised that the Irish have not be represented on the Canadian map. Whilst it's true many of the emigrants were shipped down to the U.S from Canada after landing, I would have thought a couple stayed behind, not to mention the Protestant Irish who were welcomed in Canada.

[Allenson]

The Canadian map is quite interesting. The region showing Canadian ethnicity is of course Quebec/French Canada but also a fairly big block of eastern Ontario and also Atlantic Canada, the latter of which is a mixture of French, Scots, English & Irish by all accounts. That region is certainly the oldest part of Canada in terms of European colonization.

I have Scottish & Irish roots from Atlantic Canada.....

[Foxy]

Italians stay all in New York and Philadelphia. Indeed my relatives stay in New York, in particular in Staten Island (70% of them have Italian roots).
In Canada the Italians stay for the most in Toronto, all the Italians who have lived in Canada that I know stayed in Toronto. So I agree with the map. :thumb001:

[Aemma]

The Canadian map is quite interesting. The region showing Canadian ethnicity is of course Quebec/French Canada but also a fairly big block of eastern Ontario and also Atlantic Canada, the latter of which is a mixture of French, Scots, English & Irish by all accounts. That region is certainly the oldest part of Canada in terms of European colonization.

I have Scotish & Irish roots from Atlantic Canada.....

Yes, you should all read the map as Allenson presents, otherwise it won't make sense.

[Aemma]

Italians stay all in New York and Philadelphia. Indeed my relatives stay in New York, in particular in Staten Island (70% of them have Italian roots).
In Canada the Italians stay for the most in Toronto, all the Italians who have lived in Canada that I know stayed in Toronto. So I agree with the map. :thumb001:

Yes, quite true of Canada, RQ. Although we have a very nice Italian community in Ottawa too!


Little Italy is a neighbourhood of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, situated in Centretown West and the cultural centre of Ottawa's Italian community. Bounded by Albert Street to the north, Carling Avenue to the south, the O-Train tracks to the west, and approximately Bronson Avenue to the east, Little Italy intersects with Chinatown, whose business district centres on Somerset Street.

Little Italy was initially settled around 1900 by Italian immigrants. Following a fire at a small Murray Street chapel, the 1913 founding of St. Anthony of Padua Church at the corner of Booth Street and Gladstone Avenue cemented the immigrants' connections with the neighbourhood. In the years following World War II a second wave of Italian immigrants was joined by communities of Ukrainian and Polish immigrants in the area. In recent years with the integration of European immigrants the neighbourhood has found itself home to Asian immigrants, primarily from China and Vietnam.

In the 1960s a large section of the poorer neighbourhood was demolished, and replaced with the High School of Commerce, today the Adult High School.

Since 1974, each June the neighbourhood hosts the Italian Week festival, Ottawa's celebration of Italian culture.

Two area streets have been given commemorative Italian street names. Gladstone Avenue is also called Via Marconi, and Preston Street is called Corso Italia.

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Italy,_Ottawa)

It has the best restaurants. :thumb001:

[MagnaLaurentia]

The canadian map suck... for the eastern canada! Quebec, Ontario and the atlantics provinces are all red. This is not really representative.

Quebec: 70-80% French Canadian (Québécois) pure laine

North-East Ontario: French Canadian

North New-Brunswick: French Canadian (Acadiens)
South New-Brunswick: British/Irish Canadian

New-Brunswick is 193,470 French (26.9%); 165,235 English (23.0%); 135,835 Irish (18.9%); 127,635 Scottish (17.7%); 27,490 German (3.8%); 26,220 Acadians (3.6%); 23,815 "North American Indian" (First Nations) (3.3%); 13,355 Dutch (Netherlands) (1.9%); and 7,620 Welsh (1.1%).

Nova Scotia is Scottish (29.3%), followed by English (28.1%), Irish (19.9%), French (16.7%), German (10.0%), Dutch (3.9%), First Nations (3.2%), Welsh (1.4%), Italian (1.3%), and Acadian (1.2%).

Newfoundland and Labrador is English (39.4%), followed by Irish (19.7%), Scottish (6.0%), French (5.5%), and First Nations (3.2%).

[MagnaLaurentia]

Yes, quite true of Canada, RQ. Although we have a very nice Italian community in Ottawa too!



Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Italy,_Ottawa)

It has the best restaurants. :thumb001:

The italian community is more bigger in Montreal!

Oh... and you now what? my mother is italian! haha

[Grumpy Cat]

Oh wait... what's this? Anglos complain about French-Canadians not feeling "Canadian" enough? But wait a minute... aren't all those places that are red have large French-speaking populations?

And oh... do I see a lot of places where they chose ENGLISH over Canadian? :coffee:

[Óttar]

Canadian and American as ethnicities on here. :rolleyes:

What do they do for mixes?

[MagnaLaurentia]

Oh wait... what's this? Anglos complain about French-Canadians not feeling "Canadian" enough? But wait a minute... aren't all those places that are red have large French-speaking populations?

And oh... do I see a lot of places where they chose ENGLISH over Canadian? :coffee:

LOL we don't feel Canadian... but French Canadian (race, ethnic)... Canadian in census means : English, Irish, Scottish and French. It's written, if I'm not mistaken, in the census questionnaire. So it could have an effect on the Quebecois.

Not all Quebecois will choose French because they don't feel they are French of France. (but French from Canada)

Census Québec
Ethnic origin Population Percent
Canadien / Canadian 4,897,475 68.73%
French 2,111,570 29.63%
Irish 291,545 4.09%
Italian 249,205 3.50%
English 218,415 3.07%
Scottish 156,140 2.19%
North American Indian 130,165 1.83%
Québécois 94,940 1.33%
German 88,700 1.24%
Jewish 82,450 1.16%
Haitian 74,465 1.05%
Chinese 63,000 0.88%
Greek 58,645 0.82%
Lebanese 48,990 0.69%
Portuguese 48,765 0.69%
Polish 46,990 0.66%
Spanish 43,115 0.61%
East Indian 34,125 0.48%
Belgian 30,095 0.42%
Vietnamese 28,310 0.40%
American (USA) 25,805 0.36%
Berbers 24,030 0.34%
Russian 22,630 0.32%
Métis 21,755 0.31%
Romanian 19,455 0.27%
Armenian 18,855 0.26%
Dutch (Netherlands) 18,000 0.25%
African (Black) 17,830 0.25%
Moroccan 17,540 0.25%
Acadian 17,420 0.24%
Hungarian (Magyar) 16,490 0.23%
Swiss 15,715 0.22%
Egyptian 15,050 0.21%
Algerian 13,545 0.19%
Inuit 10,745 0.15%
Jamaican 10,635 0.15%
Syrian 10,445 0.15%
Latin/Central/South American 10,400 0.15%
Chilean 10,045 0.14%
Iranian 9,535 0.13%
Cambodian 9,405 0.13%
Black 9,370 0.13%
Salvadoran 8,820 0.12%
Sri Lankan 8,475 0.12%
Ukrainian 8,030 0.11%
Pakistani 7,990 0.11%
Welsh 7,460 0.10%
Austrian 7,310 0.10%
British 7,060 0.10%
Mexican 6,480 0.09%
Turk 5,675 0.08%
Laotian 5,180 0.07%
West Indian 5,140 0.07%
Yugoslav 4,820 0.07%
Colombian 4,750 0.07%
Norwegian 4,610 0.06%
Swedish 4,540 0.06%
Peruvian 4,530 0.06%
Korean 4,475 0.06%
Croatian 4,360 0.06%
Tunisian 4,325 0.06%
Trinidadian/Tobagan 4,135 0.06%
Czech 4,085 0.06%
Lithuanians 4,045 0.06%
Guatemalan 4,025 0.06%
Barbadian 3,950 0.06%
Congolese 3,835 0.05%
Bangladeshi 3,680 0.05%
South Asian 3,640 0.05%
Slovak 3,580 0.05%
Danish 3,335 0.05%
Afghan 3,315 0.05%
Japanese 3,210 0.05%

[MagnaLaurentia]

lZS7sOOpELI

The Frenchman : Pardon, are you Canadians? You have the accent.
Elvis Gratton : Me, I'm a Canadian Quebecois. A French, French Canadian.
The Frenchman : Oh, okay.
Elvis Gratton : An American from the North French. A Francophone, heu... Quebecois Canadian. A Quebecois who speak French Canadian, French. We are American Canadian Francophone from North America. Franco-Quebecois...
Elvis Gratton's wife : We are.. we are... Franco-Canadian from Quebec. Quebecois Canadian.
Elvis Gratton : both, yeah

[Guapo]

Why are Franco-Canadians refereed to as "frogs"? In Yugoslavia, Italians are called "frogs".

[Aemma]

Why are Franco-Canadians refereed to as "frogs"? In Yugoslavia, Italians are called "frogs".

LOL Well I asked the same question in the Stupid Question Thread. :D No offense V. :P :D So go take a peek there! :)

But it's not only Franco-Canadians that are called that. The English across the pond call the French (the 'real' French from France) frogs too. It pretty much stems from there. By the same token, the French call the English "rosbif" (roast beef).

Hmm all this talk of food....LOL

[MagnaLaurentia]

Because we have French origins. Apparently the French eat frogs legs like chicken. But ... this is what the Anglo-Saxon believe.

We call them: tête carrée (square head) and sale bloke (dirty bloke)

[Guapo]

We call the French "snails"

[Aviane]

The canadian map suck... for the eastern canada! Quebec, Ontario and the atlantics provinces are all red. This is not really representative.

Quebec: 70-80% French Canadian (Québécois) pure laine

North-East Ontario: French Canadian

North New-Brunswick: French Canadian (Acadiens)
South New-Brunswick: British/Irish Canadian

New-Brunswick is 193,470 French (26.9%); 165,235 English (23.0%); 135,835 Irish (18.9%); 127,635 Scottish (17.7%); 27,490 German (3.8%); 26,220 Acadians (3.6%); 23,815 "North American Indian" (First Nations) (3.3%); 13,355 Dutch (Netherlands) (1.9%); and 7,620 Welsh (1.1%).

Nova Scotia is Scottish (29.3%), followed by English (28.1%), Irish (19.9%), French (16.7%), German (10.0%), Dutch (3.9%), First Nations (3.2%), Welsh (1.4%), Italian (1.3%), and Acadian (1.2%).

Newfoundland and Labrador is English (39.4%), followed by Irish (19.7%), Scottish (6.0%), French (5.5%), and First Nations (3.2%).

I agree the map is not clear enough it needs more addition since there's alot more French or Irish/Scottish as well as English for example and that goes for the other ethnic groups, but your figures are much better overall.


Oh wait... what's this? Anglos complain about French-Canadians not feeling "Canadian" enough? But wait a minute... aren't all those places that are red have large French-speaking populations?

And oh... do I see a lot of places where they chose ENGLISH over Canadian? :coffee:

Yeah it's a bit of calling the kettle black which this map seems to show favourtism. :(

[Grumpy Cat]

LOL we don't feel Canadian... but French Canadian (race, ethnic).

Yeah but you realize that before WWII, only French-speaking Canadians were referred to as "Canadians" while the Anglophone population referred to themselves as "British North Americans".

That's why the Montreal Canadiens are called the Montreal Canadiens. :cool:

[Electronic God-Man]

Funny, but to be honest, many French people actually sound like frogs to me.

[Aemma]

Funny, but to be honest, many French people actually sound like frogs to me.

*Ribbit* If Ulf were here, he'd say it sounds more like Moon Speak. *Ribbit* :frog:

[MagnaLaurentia]

Yeah but you realize that before WWII, only French-speaking Canadians were referred to as "Canadians" while the Anglophone population referred to themselves as "British North Americans".

That's why the Montreal Canadiens are called the Montreal Canadiens. :cool:

I know all that. In my point of view, I'm the true Canadian... in the New France, Canada is the actual Québec... they took our name.

Anyway, it's typical of my people. We are schizophrenic when it's time to define ourselves... French? no, we're in the new world. Canadian? no, the English have stolen our name. French Canadian? no, we don't want to be in Canada. Quebecois? I have a problem with ... Quebec is a city... and the Province of Quebec is a British invention. The word province is for losers (check in the history books). This refers to the province of Quebec city. So, for me impossible to feel good about this choice.

We should call Laurentian, thank you Chamoine Groulx!

http://oi53.tinypic.com/2d9dwqw.jpg

[Aemma]

I know all that. In my point of view, I'm the true Canadian... in the New France, Canada is the actual Québec... they took our name.

Anyway, it's typical of my people. We are schizophrenic when it's time to define ourselves... French? no, we're in the new world. Canadian? no, the English have stolen our name. French Canadian? no, we don't want to be in Canada. Quebecois? I have a problem with ... Quebec is a city... and the Province of Quebec is a British invention. The word province is for losers (check in the history books). This refers to the province of Quebec city. So, for me impossible to feel good about this choice.

We should call Laurentian, thank you Chamoine Groulx!

http://oi53.tinypic.com/2d9dwqw.jpg

Hein? Speak for yourself! I'm a French Canadian, who comes of pure laine stock up until my paternal grandfather married a lovely English woman. All pure laine on my mother's side. But we're Ontarians (which is in Canada aka Upper Canada to Québec's Lower Canada) as well!! And we have been for quite some time. Québécois are not the only "vrais canadiens"--je m'excuse mais non, les québécois n'ont pas la monopolie sur ce qui est ou n'est pas un véritable canadien! Mes aïeux!!

Ça me fait chier quand vous vous prennez pour les seuls qui compte! :mad:

[MagnaLaurentia]

Je suis d'accord avec tous ce que tu dis mais nous serons irréconciliable sur ce sujet, je le crains.

Je sais d'ailleurs que les Québécois n'ont pas le monopole sur ce qui est vraiment canadien ou non, sinon il n'y aurais pas ce débat.

De plus, que tu aies du sang anglais d'une femme charmante n'est pas la question... J'ai moi-même du sang irlandais et italien. Pourtant, je me considère comme un pur laine.

For others who don't understand French... I considere Quebecois are the real canadian anyway. You just see a summary of the last 50 years of dialogue Quebec nationalism / French from rest of Canada.

Oh and I like French, English people from the rest of Canada, don't worry. Mais, ne nous faites pas obstacle.

My pleasure ;)

[Sahson]

Italians stay all in New York and Philadelphia. Indeed my relatives stay in New York, in particular in Staten Island (70% of them have Italian roots).
In Canada the Italians stay for the most in Toronto, all the Italians who have lived in Canada that I know stayed in Toronto. So I agree with the map. :thumb001:

Though San Francisco was founded by the Spanish, and became a Spanish Fort in Nueva Espana. When the English took over California, the first two major ethnicities to immigrate to San Francisco were Irish, and Italians. :)

[Grumpy Cat]

French Canadian? no, we don't want to be in Canada.

That map proves otherwise. :cool:

Anyways, I didn't mean to start an English vs French flame war or a Quebecois vs hors Quebec flame war I was just pointing out an observation.

Anyways, if we are to argue who is a "true Canadian", I am a direct descendant of the first Europeans in Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitation_at_Port-Royal). :p Of course I don't believe the who is more Canadian than who arguement.

You see, once advantage to being able to speak English without an accent (and also not having a French surname and being from Nova Scotia) is that I get to hear what Anglos say about us behind our backs. Just call me "Ninja Frenchie". :cool:

What I noticed is that 90% of the time, it's a self-projection. The "not feeling Canadian" thing is just one example, which this map disproves as Anglos are more apt to answer "English" while Francos answer "Canadian". This is true for Quebec and also Frencophone areas of Nova Scotia and New Brunswick... the only exception being the Ile-Madame area in Northeastern Nova Scotia, but actually those folks descend from a mixture of Acadians and French settlers in Louisbourg, and while they do speak Acadian French (probably due to assimilation), they probably feel more affinity to France.

The "not Canadian" thing is straight out bullshit. I have family who served this country in both World Wars and the Korean War, and have a few close friends and family members serving in Afghanistan, so such a statement pisses me off to no end.

Another one of my personal favorites: "French-Canadians are anti-English and refuse to speak English." Oh really now??? Can we compare the number of Anglophones who speak French as a second language to Francophones who speak English as a second language? Yeah... that's what I thought. :rolleyes2:

And another thing I noticed on that map is another group that identifies as "Canadian" who are also disrespected by other Canadians: NEWFIES. I mean, they're the butt of jokes from elitist Canadians and you can now, the outcome of Hurricane Igor.

[Kanye West]
Stephen Harper does not care about Atlantic Canadians
[/Kanye West]

[Bloodeagle]

Though San Francisco was founded by the Spanish, and became a Spanish Fort in Nueva Espana. When the English took over California, the first two major ethnicities to immigrate to San Francisco were Irish, and Italians. :)
Many of the early Californian farmers were Italian as well.
The California wine region was founded by Italians. :) (http://www.italiancenter.net/goldcountry/immigration.php)

[MagnaLaurentia]

That map proves otherwise. :cool:

If you love map, I prefere statistics.

Quebec independence referendum, 1995
Yes : 49.42%
No : 50.58%

Oh okay, we lost but ...

"But the end result of the referendum was 50-50 for the NO, despite a 60% majority of francophones, and at most 5% nonfrancophones who voted YES."

http://www.pum.umontreal.ca/apqc/95_96/drouilly/drouilly.htm

Francophone means alot of people and alot of non-Quebecois... why I know that? Because the essential NO come from Montreal... the place then immigrant are. And you know what is the best? Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister during this period, un salaud aussi :)), before the referendum, gave illegally citizenship to many immigrants.

So, ask me what I think about democracy...

Everything is okay... don't worry... mets tes lunettes roses! :thumbs up

[MagnaLaurentia]

I have family who served this country in both World Wars and the Korean War, and have a few close friends and family members serving in Afghanistan, so such a statement pisses me off to no end.

Do you know what is : Rébellion des Patriotes? I'm a descendent of a patriot and I know people who are too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Canada_Rebellion

[Farcebook]

I find it interesting that in general, Eastern Canadians (including French Canadians) are more likely to identify as "Canadian" than Western Canadians. I suspect this has to do with the fact that Western Canada is generally more recently settled than the East. For example, I think most of the "Germans" in the West are descended from Mennonites from Ukraine, who came over here in the 1890's-1940's or so. The ethnic Ukrainians are also from this era.

Similarly, in America Germans seem to be the largest group, but the old-school Americans are mostly from the Isles. I suspect that since the German presence in America is more recent, people with any German ancestry are more likely to mark themselves as German than anything else.

[Electronic God-Man]

Similarly, in America Germans seem to be the largest group, but the old-school Americans are mostly from the Isles. I suspect that since the German presence in America is more recent, people with any German ancestry are more likely to mark themselves as German than anything else.

There were many Germans in colonial America. Most of them were Pennsylvania Dutch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Dutch). There was another huge surge of German immigration around 1848 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/48er#Famous_German_Forty-Eighters_in_the_US).

[Oinakos Growion]

The "American" (i.e. USA) map can never be good as it is based on an, let's say, rather peculiar classification of ethnic groups.
I think this issue has been discussed somewhere else in this forum many times anyway.

[Foxy]

Because we have French origins. Apparently the French eat frogs legs like chicken. But ... this is what the Anglo-Saxon believe.

We call them: tête carrée (square head) and sale bloke (dirty bloke)

In Brescia (Italy) people really eat frogs... It is considered a "specialité" . French and Italians in my opinion are able to eat everything, becouse they are able to make a great dish also with rocks... :D

The difference between a French, British and Americans:

http://comps.fotosearch.com/bigcomps/FSP/FSP538/634010.jpg
http://comps.fotosearch.com/bigcomps/FSP/FSP538/634026.jpg
http://comps.fotosearch.com/bigcomps/FSP/FSP538/634020.jpg




Though San Francisco was founded by the Spanish, and became a Spanish Fort in Nueva Espana. When the English took over California, the first two major ethnicities to immigrate to San Francisco were Irish, and Italians. :)

Mmm, surely Italians are also on the West Coast, but most are in and around New York. Also in Italy when we speak of the US we always think to NY.

[Jack B]

I've noticed Irish ancestry gets wildly exaggerated in North America, these maps look more like the real world, Canada = mainly French/English, USA = mainly German/English.

[Allenson]

North-East Ontario: French Canadian

I was wondering about that one. I've always thought of Ontario as pretty much English but it sounds like the area of Ontario that is shaded in red on the census map is more of French extraction?

[poiuytrewq0987]

I've noticed Irish ancestry gets wildly exaggerated in North America, these maps look more like the real world, Canada = mainly French/English, USA = mainly German/English.

I wonder if Eire can fit all 36 million Irish Americans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Americans). :D

[Jack B]

I wonder if Eire can fit all 36 million Irish Americans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Americans). :D

lol yeah Americans being the key word there, with all those 1/16th, 1/8th, 1/4 and other degrees of muttage, the amount of non Irish blood in Ireland would significantly out-way the native. :shakefist

I do know a man near me who has a daughter living in New York who was born here to 2 Irish parents and is now and American citizen though. Nobody can pronounce her name :D

[MagnaLaurentia]

I was wondering about that one. I've always thought of Ontario as pretty much English but it sounds like the area of Ontario that is shaded in red on the census map is more of French extraction?

Total Population (2010) of Ontario : 13,167,894
1,235,765 (French ethnic origin, 2001)
567,935 (Francophones in Ontario, 2001)

" The majority of Ontarians are of British or other European descent. Slightly less than 5% of the population of Ontario is Franco-Ontarian (Francophone), that is those whose native tongue is French, although those with French ancestry account for 11% of the population. "
link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario#Ethnic_groups)

" Northeastern Ontario and Northwestern Ontario may also be grouped together as Northern Ontario. An important difference between the two sub-regions is that Northeastern Ontario has a sizeable Franco-Ontarian population — approximately 25 per cent of the region's population speaks French as a first language, compared to just 3.2 per cent in the northwest. "
link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_Ontario)

Cities with majority of Franco-Ontarian (NorthEast Ontario)
Sudbury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Sudbury)
Hearst (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearst,_Ontario)
Kapuskasing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapuskasing)
Smooth_Rock_Falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smooth_Rock_Falls,_Ontario)
Embrun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrun,_Ontario)
St.Charles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Charles,_Ontario)
West Nipissing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Nipissing)
Dubreuilville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubreuilville,_Ontario)

[Allenson]

lol yeah Americans being the key word there, with all those 1/16th, 1/8th, 1/4 and other degrees of muttage, the amount of non Irish blood in Ireland would significantly out-way the native. :shakefist


Down in Boston, there are a lot of people of 'pure' Irish extraction. But here in New England in general, you also see a lot of half-Irish/half-Italian and half-Irish/half French-Canadian folks. The commonality of Catholicism went along way in pairings, I reckon. The Papist would approve. ;)

I'm 1/4 or less Irish, the rest Scot & English.

[Graham]

I wonder if Eire can fit all 36 million Irish Americans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Americans). :D
The Irish are more trendy than us to pick . In the 1980 census, there was 10,048,816 americans of Scottish ancestry. That changed to 4,890,581 in 2000. :D

Most of our emmigrants went to Canada and New Zealand.

[Grumpy Cat]

Most of our emmigrants went to Canada and New Zealand.

Yeah, and actually those areas on the Canada map where people answered Scottish (NE Nova Scotia), many people in those areas speak Gaelic.

[mvbeleg]

Americans being the key word there, with all those 1/16th, 1/8th, 1/4 and other degrees of muttage, the amount of non Irish blood in Ireland would significantly out-way the native.

The core of Caucasoid population in the Mid South region of the Southeastern USA seems to be of Ulster-Scots, Irish, or Scottish stock. English descent is prevalent as well, but when it does occur it is typically mixed-in with the others.

This group would fall under the 'American' category according to the above USA ethnicity map.

[Curtis24]

What exactly does "American" mean on the map? Hilbilly?

[poiuytrewq0987]

What exactly does "American" mean on the map? Hilbilly?

It means people said American when they were asked what ethnicity they identified with.

[Curtis24]

Yeah, figures. The rednecks always claim they are the "real" Americans.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Yeah, figures. The rednecks always claim they are the "real" Americans.

You too, apparently. ;)

[Curtis24]

:p

[Electronic God-Man]

Yeah, figures. The rednecks always claim they are the "real" Americans.

We are.

[Graham]

Yeah, and actually those areas on the Canada map where people answered Scottish (NE Nova Scotia), many people in those areas speak Gaelic.

Aye in Cape Breton. Used to be the third most spoken language in Canada 19th century. like Scotland there's only a small amount nowadays though

Don't know if this maps right, it was the areas Gàidhlig was spoken 1901

http://www.mystfx.ca/academic/celtic-studies/images/gaelic-ca-1901.jpg http://www.mystfx.ca/academic/celtic-studies/images/gaelic-em-1901.jpg

[Guapo]

"American" is a valid ethnicity like any other ethnicity

[Aemma]

I was wondering about that one. I've always thought of Ontario as pretty much English but it sounds like the area of Ontario that is shaded in red on the census map is more of French extraction?

Nope the map is quite correct. North Eastern Ontario is very French, but as with most parts of Ontario, there is a huge English/Scottish/Irish influence as well. If you look closely there is also a red marker in the Sarnia area, right near the Michigan border. The area in particular, Welland and the whereabouts, is quite French as well. It all makes sense when you look at the history of that area as well as Detroit's which is a French name afterall. :)


Total Population (2010) of Ontario : 13,167,894
1,235,765 (French ethnic origin, 2001)
567,935 (Francophones in Ontario, 2001)

" The majority of Ontarians are of British or other European descent. Slightly less than 5% of the population of Ontario is Franco-Ontarian (Francophone), that is those whose native tongue is French, although those with French ancestry account for 11% of the population. "
link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario#Ethnic_groups)

" Northeastern Ontario and Northwestern Ontario may also be grouped together as Northern Ontario. An important difference between the two sub-regions is that Northeastern Ontario has a sizeable Franco-Ontarian population — approximately 25 per cent of the region's population speaks French as a first language, compared to just 3.2 per cent in the northwest. "
link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_Ontario)

Cities with majority of Franco-Ontarian (NorthEast Ontario)
Sudbury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Sudbury)
Hearst (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearst,_Ontario)
Kapuskasing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapuskasing)
Smooth_Rock_Falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smooth_Rock_Falls,_Ontario)
Embrun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrun,_Ontario)
St.Charles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Charles,_Ontario)
West Nipissing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Nipissing)
Dubreuilville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubreuilville,_Ontario)

Good list other than Embrun is in Eastern Ontario, here near Ottawa, not Northern Eastern Ontario.

[MagnaLaurentia]

Good list other than Embrun is in Eastern Ontario, here near Ottawa, not Northern Eastern Ontario.

Yep, I made a mistake! :P

[Albion]

Oh wait... what's this? Anglos complain about French-Canadians not feeling "Canadian" enough? But wait a minute... aren't all those places that are red have large French-speaking populations?

And oh... do I see a lot of places where they chose ENGLISH over Canadian? :coffee:

Maybe the other Anglophone Canadians based it on ancestry, since everyone in Canada can call themselves "Canadian". They're just expressing their origins, although most of them won't be "pure" English, but will have some other ancestry mixed in.
Looking at the map also its nice to see "English" Columbia and the Yukon in pink still :thumb001: :D