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Deneb
11-04-2016, 09:57 PM
It's time to be honest.

Atheism in Europe
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/shZ6f9.png (https://imageshack.com/i/pmshZ6f9p)

GDP per capita
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/921/RSZdqM.png (https://imageshack.com/i/plRSZdqMp)

IQ
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/08uXtx.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/po08uXtxj)

Deneb
11-04-2016, 10:02 PM
The link works: the more IQ and wealth, the more atheist is a society. I suppose to any rule there has to be an exception and this one is Ireland, but the rule works in general. The poorest countries in Europe are Albania, Moldova, Romania, Turkey..., those countries have the lower IQ too, and without surprises, they are the most religious.

Deneb
11-04-2016, 10:14 PM
The same goes for the US. The more poor and less educated (black people in particular) the more religious they are.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/sYKsso.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnsYKssoj)

Poise n Pen
11-04-2016, 10:16 PM
Atheism, weasling and lying, ill gotten wealth all linked together. Film at 11.

Deneb
11-04-2016, 10:24 PM
And now, 2 interesting charts linking low religiosity and higher education.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/921/F5JOu5.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/plF5JOu5j)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/921/kmoktG.png (https://imageshack.com/i/plkmoktGp)

Bell Beaker
11-04-2016, 10:34 PM
Lel.......

Ireland and Poland are very religious for European standards and are among the healthiest European economies.

Deneb
11-04-2016, 10:36 PM
Of course there aren't atheists in the world poorest countries: Sudan, Congo, Papua New Guinea, Haiti, Bangla Desh... So we see one more time the link between religiosity and poverty/low education.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/NQvZAX.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmNQvZAXj)

Bagot
11-04-2016, 10:37 PM
To be honest there are other maps

IQ map (Lynn 2012)

https://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/europe-iq-1200-lynn20121.png

GDP per capita (2013)

http://i.imgur.com/rdiGWCC.png

Irreligion map

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Irreligion_map.png

map of individualism

https://hbdchick.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/individualism-map-2-hajnal-line.jpg

Poise n Pen
11-04-2016, 10:38 PM
Lel.......

Ireland and Poland are very religious for European standards and are among the healthiest European economies.

Not to mention economy means nothing. Boosting economy with a bunch of nigrants makes you smart lol

Insuperable
11-04-2016, 10:39 PM
Artabro stronk, Artabro high IQ.

Bell Beaker
11-04-2016, 10:41 PM
Of course there aren't atheists in the world poorest countries: Sudan, Congo, Papua New Guinea, Haiti, Bangla Desh... So we see one more time the link between religiosity and poverty/low education.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/NQvZAX.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmNQvZAXj)

Do people know what is Atheism in Bangladesh or Sudan?

Brįs Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-04-2016, 10:42 PM
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3925e04f500071749fba03deb1c46fa6?convert_to_webp=t rue

Deneb
11-04-2016, 10:43 PM
Artabro stronk, Artabro high IQ.

Hahaha, I'm not talking about me, but only a cynical could deny those links.

Insuperable
11-04-2016, 10:44 PM
Hahaha, I'm not talking about me.

I know. I just couldn't help myself.:ner-ner0:

Poise n Pen
11-04-2016, 10:45 PM
But what's your IQ?

It is easy to speak in generalities but in USA generally the dumb underclass and invasive 'elite' are ones who suscribe to all the same 'progess've' ideologies. The actual americans do not, but on average whites are much smarter than anyone else except some asian countries so...fuck off.

Brįs Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-04-2016, 10:49 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/8c/1a/f1/8c1af111e6e22230a6d70a5a36488b14.jpg

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/230/260/9ce.jpg

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/jesus-lag-meme.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/427998798338875392/is9RoYcD.jpeg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e5/5e/20/e55e204113dacaa0c71ffd8f7c6b6679.jpg

Wadaad
11-04-2016, 10:49 PM
So pathetic a link to hilight or even be proud of...and wrong since there are more atheists in China than all of the west and the Chinese still earn way less than their western (or wahabi counterparts...yes, exporting OIL contributes to GDP

Bell Beaker
11-04-2016, 10:50 PM
Once again you are going to stereotypes. People with higher IQ's and higher education generally have more hours of work and have more responsibilities and not much time to go to Church or to care about that.

Probably, 80% of the gross of those High-IQ and low religious populations never read a Hawkins book or a Bible.

Bobby3
11-04-2016, 10:58 PM
http://i.imgur.com/YVKIa5Q.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vxlM8k1.png

:picard1::picard1::picard1::picard1::picard1:


Al-bananyya is strong!

Bell Beaker
11-04-2016, 11:00 PM
So pathetic a link to hilight or even be proud of...and wrong since there are more atheists in China than all of the west and the Chinese still earn way less than their western (or wahabi counterparts...yes, exporting OIL contributes to GDP

Or Russians are vastly non-religious. But Russia is not at level of Western Europe. But not as poor as the general Chinese population.

Also
11-04-2016, 11:02 PM
That poor countries or areas tend to have more religious individuals is explained by the fact spirituality helps them go through their daily struggles, having to go through challenges and hard times increases one's spirituality. That die hard atheist guy would likely at least attempt a prayer if half of his family was terminally ill and in pain.

To my knowledge, no one has ever stablished a causal connection between intelligence and theistic beliefs.

Deneb
11-04-2016, 11:06 PM
So pathetic a link to hilight or even be proud of...and wrong since there are more atheists in China than all of the west and the Chinese still earn way less than their western (or wahabi counterparts...yes, exporting OIL contributes to GDP

Nobody doubts China will become an economic superpower in the next years, in fact it is yet. What about those religious countries as Somalia or Sudan??? They will be as poor as they are nowadays. Religion is incompatible with human development.

Wadaad
11-04-2016, 11:07 PM
Or Russians are vastly non-religious. But Russia is not at level of Western Europe. But not as poor as the general Chinese population.

And the most important point...religion itself claims to provide solace to the weak and poor. So its more the churches seeking out these poor and low IQ people, or having the patience to aid them, or the desire to proselatyze/convert them, then 'low intelligence = more religion"

Bell Beaker
11-04-2016, 11:09 PM
Nobody doubts China will become an economic superpower in the next years, in fact it is yet. What about those religious countries as Somalia or Sudan??? They will be as poor as they are nowadays. Religion is incompatible with human development.

:picard2:

Deneb
11-04-2016, 11:11 PM
Most religious countries in the world

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/0akGvJ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pn0akGvJj)

The most of those countries are dying in poverty, illness and corruption.

Danaan
11-04-2016, 11:12 PM
Nobody doubts China will become an economic superpower in the next years, in fact it is yet. What about those religious countries as Somalia or Sudan??? They will be as poor as they are nowadays. Religion is incompatible with human development.

China's GDP per capita is comparable to North African countries. Saudi Arabia and UAE can be compared only with USA and Norway.

Deneb
11-04-2016, 11:14 PM
China's GDP per capita is comparable to North African countries. Saudi Arabia and UAE can be compared only with USA and Norway.

It's logical, because they are 1300 million . Even so, China is by far more prosperous than North Africa.

Wadaad
11-04-2016, 11:16 PM
Most religious countries in the world

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/0akGvJ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pn0akGvJj)

The most of those countries are dying in poverty, illness and corruption.

I cant take a stat that claims a country is 100% consisted of religious people, sorry.

But let these stats be your quran...idc

Raikaswinžs
11-04-2016, 11:19 PM
That Artabro guy surely puts a lot of faith in those graphics and maps for an atheist

barkoo
11-04-2016, 11:21 PM
Nobody doubts China will become an economic superpower in the next years, in fact it is yet. What about those religious countries as Somalia or Sudan??? They will be as poor as they are nowadays. Religion is incompatible with human development.

Yeah sure the communism liberal economic is a kinda dictature laughable as hell and in some ways even worst than any religious state so please.
belif is inherent to each individual it can have a political/theological orientation in its serious form as revelant as any straight political views.
your way of thinking is really Manichean.

Insuperable
11-04-2016, 11:21 PM
What about 120 years ago? (https://books.google.ba/books?id=FhYpDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=atheism+europe+1900+map&source=bl&ots=Z7B3p9kRJ9&sig=eO6MrPK1oRgVs7wo02gEM7XzqwA&hl=hr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-xPzpnZDQAhXBPxQKHS6QD_8Q6AEIXzAM#v=onepage&q=atheism%20europe%201900%20map&f=false) Are you telling me Western European countries were backward back then compared to the world and present times and that we have to thank atheism their current success?

Deneb
11-04-2016, 11:24 PM
I cant take a stat that claims a country is 100% consisted of religious people, sorry.

But let these stats be your quran...idc


You are a religious man, don't you? So you have to be incel, because your religion don't let sex before marriage, and you are single, right? or are you the usual hypocrite?

Deneb
11-04-2016, 11:28 PM
Now, the less religious countries.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/FfjPLU.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poFfjPLUj)

Deneb
11-04-2016, 11:31 PM
That Artabro guy surely puts a lot of faith in those graphics and maps for an atheist

Yeah, I enjoy them. I like this one, haha.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/I8mQMx.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnI8mQMxj)

Bobby3
11-04-2016, 11:34 PM
Or Russians are vastly non-religious. But Russia is not at level of Western Europe. But not as poor as the general Chinese population.

Russia is just another country of degenerates,just like U.S .Most geniuses they had were erased during the soviet period in all the soviet countries.

Many thousands of these intellectuals died at the hands of the soviets,the rest were silenced by money or by fear,the rest were deported,exiled or left by their own.



Religion was supressed and many christians died in Russia and Ukraine,millions more exactly.

Bell Beaker
11-04-2016, 11:35 PM
Now, the less religious countries.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/FfjPLU.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poFfjPLUj)

Lol at Vietnam and Belarus......

Deneb
11-04-2016, 11:37 PM
And this one too: extremely low IQ (below 80) implies high religiosity

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/921/JR6c2m.png (https://imageshack.com/i/plJR6c2mp)

barkoo
11-04-2016, 11:38 PM
Yeah, I enjoy them. I like this one, haha.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/I8mQMx.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnI8mQMxj)

Does it prove in any ways that religion/thelogical values are less revelant than any political views, no.
It just mean that these ppl are cleverness but not that they are right about to be atheist, stupid.

Deneb
11-04-2016, 11:40 PM
Lol at Vietnam and Belarus......


Lol at Sweden, Japan, Hong Kong, Luxembourg, UK, Denmark. Even so, Vietnam and Belarus are not so poor as Sudan, Zaire, Somalia, Ethiopia, Bangla Desh... those extremely poor countries, you know.

Deneb
11-04-2016, 11:48 PM
But my favourite chart is this one:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/gEPCjB.png (https://imageshack.com/i/pngEPCjBp)


Illiterates and retards tend to be religious. OTH bachelor degrees and people with high IQ tend to be atheists. Wheter you like or not, that is true.

Good night, believers.

Deneb
11-04-2016, 11:49 PM
Does it prove in any ways that religion/thelogical values are less revelant than any political views, no.
It just mean that these ppl are cleverness but not that they are right about to be atheist, stupid.

Are you angry, hahaha. Probably because your IQ is extremely low you can not argue, so you have to insult.

Profileid
11-05-2016, 12:01 AM
The United States is the most religious developed country in the world.
Also the most powerful...

Come at me.

barkoo
11-05-2016, 12:03 AM
Are you angry, hahaha. Probably because your IQ is extremely low you can not argue, so you have to insult.

I'm not a believer at all, total opposite actually but all of your charts don't prove anything stricto sensu about the itself religious thing.
You seems to have a very low IQ yourself that you don't get this elementary fact.
Don't try to persuade yourself (and others) your are more clever in showing these charts, you're just a stupid atheist.

Deneb
11-05-2016, 12:04 AM
I'm not a believer at all, total opposite actually but all of your charts don't prove anything stricto sensu about the itself religious thing.
You seems to have a very low IQ yourself that you don't get this elementary fact.
Don't try to persuade yourself (and others) your are more clever in showing these charts, you're just a stupid atheist.

I see a dog barking. Take a sleeping pill tonight.

Gold-Shekel
11-05-2016, 12:07 AM
Yeah you just have to look back at all those great atheist antique civilisations oh wait there weren't any, all believed in some sort of higher power.

Colonel Frank Grimes
11-05-2016, 12:28 AM
The United States is the most religious developed country in the world.
Also the most powerful...

Come at me.

The Bible Belt isn't where America's wealth stems from. It's the poorest part of America (except Texas).

http://thesaltcollective.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Bible-belt-2.jpg

Tietar
11-05-2016, 12:28 AM
the existence of God is an absolute mystery that science can never solve. therefore atheism as a belief is respectable as believing in God, but as an categorical afirmacion is ridiculous because you can not prove, it shows no particular intelligence. There are many brainless idiots who are atheists because that is the doctrine they have been taught

Colonel Frank Grimes
11-05-2016, 12:41 AM
the existence of God is an absolute mystery that science can never solve. therefore atheism as a belief is respectable as believing in God, but as an categorical afirmacion is ridiculous because you can not prove, it shows no particular intelligence. There are many brainless idiots who are atheists because that is the doctrine they have been taught

Do you believe in a Reptilian race living in subterranean caverns deep within the Earth? No? But you can't prove such creatures don't exist. So clearly it's a possibility despite the lack of tangible evidence. You can't prove they don't exist!

Do you see now the absurdity of your argument?

Bell Beaker
11-05-2016, 12:42 AM
The Bible Belt isn't where America's wealth stems from. It's the poorest part of America (except Texas).

http://thesaltcollective.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Bible-belt-2.jpg

except..... except.... except....

Colonel Frank Grimes
11-05-2016, 12:43 AM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2d/c7/9b/2dc79bc88eb032e04a5fe32e99b1be4c.jpg

That's wild.

Poise n Pen
11-05-2016, 12:53 AM
https://iaincarstairs.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/chart.jpg

AQ score means autism level.

Poise n Pen
11-05-2016, 12:54 AM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2d/c7/9b/2dc79bc88eb032e04a5fe32e99b1be4c.jpg

That's wild.

That's only because baptists used to own half-monkeys and your graph incorrectly identifies them as fully human.

Gold-Shekel
11-05-2016, 09:59 AM
You just have to see Atheists react in general to realize that they are retarded. A lot of them focus so much in their life on something they don't believe in (religion). You must be really stupid to spend your entire life trying to prove that god doesn't exist.

Marusya
11-05-2016, 10:20 AM
I doubt the validity of this study. The man in the video was an Oxford Don and a Christian. His book, "Mere Christianity" is a masterpiece of great intellectual thought. Any stupid person can be an atheist. It's the easiest of life's roads to travel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHxs3gdtV8A

Böri
11-05-2016, 10:40 AM
The link works: the more IQ and wealth, the more atheist is a society. I suppose to any rule there has to be an exception and this one is Ireland, but the rule works in general. The poorest countries in Europe are Albania, Moldova, Romania, Turkey..., those countries have the lower IQ too, and without surprises, they are the most religious.

Turkey is not Europe firstly you mongrel, born from females series banged for 800 years by African Moor occupiers. and Türks have higher IQ than all South Euros. Kurds decrease Turkey average. Turkish economy didnt sink like Iberian in the past 10 years, Arabized Euro Al-Espaniard. Plus in the Arab world there are also many atheist Arabs like you . These discussions are now outdate. Self declared Atheist and Progressive USSR fell behind Christians and blast. Their contribution to East Euro people was to prepare them to work as escorting, sex seller people

Deneb
11-05-2016, 12:45 PM
A lot of people are getting butthurt in this thread. Intelligent people only "believe" in god because death frighten them. They are usually a bunch of cowards. OTH people with a low IQ believe in all kind of fairy tales: god, fortune-tellers, ufos, horoscope...

Tietar
11-05-2016, 02:16 PM
Do you believe in a Reptilian race living in subterranean caverns deep within the Earth? No? But you can't prove such creatures don't exist. So clearly it's a possibility despite the lack of tangible evidence. You can't prove they don't exist!

Do you see now the absurdity of your argument?

no, because the existence of a creator theoretically it is probable, just as probable are other theories like living in a computer simulation,
a mathematical accident, or be the result of an alien experiment, or entities outside this universe.

Reptilian race is also theoretically probable, but it is stupid and irrelevant.

Do you see the consistency of my argument?

Also
11-05-2016, 05:46 PM
To posit the existence of this reptilian race is not as reasonable as positing the existence of a God creator because it has no explanatory power over any observed phenomenon. On the other hand like Von Neumann once said "a lot of things would be easier to explain if God existed".

In mathematical terms, the a posteriori probability of a hypothesis is proportional to its prior probability (ignoring any observation) and to how likely the observations would be under the hypothesis. So, for example, explaining an orderly, seemingly logical, universe containing complex structures is a lot easier if there was an intelligent creator than if there was not, that's why people came to believe in God in the first place, while the existence of an underground reptilian race doesn't help to explain anything.

LoLeL
12-15-2016, 09:58 AM
HA HA HA... :evil angry religious people... :devil:

Melki
01-11-2017, 08:13 PM
It's time to be honest.

Atheism in Europe
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/shZ6f9.png (https://imageshack.com/i/pmshZ6f9p)

GDP per capita
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/921/RSZdqM.png (https://imageshack.com/i/plRSZdqMp)

IQ
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/08uXtx.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/po08uXtxj)

Artabro is the living proof demonstrating why I hate leftists almost as much as right-wing nationalists.

Yes, he's from Galicia, the most underdeveloped and dumbest place of Spain

Mingle
01-11-2017, 08:37 PM
So pathetic a link to hilight or even be proud of...and wrong since there are more atheists in China than all of the west and the Chinese still earn way less than their western (or wahabi counterparts...yes, exporting OIL contributes to GDP

Being an atheist country doesn't necessary mean the country will become prosperous, however having a prosperous country almost always leads to a rise in atheism/irreligiousity.

KMack
01-11-2017, 09:02 PM
The link works: the more IQ and wealth, the more atheist is a society. I suppose to any rule there has to be an exception and this one is Ireland, but the rule works in general. The poorest countries in Europe are Albania, Moldova, Romania, Turkey..., those countries have the lower IQ too, and without surprises, they are the most religious.

But I don't any data comparing average wealth of an atheist vs. a non atheist (and it should be adjusted to include the same level of education). Just because atheists cluster in high income urban areas does not mean they are making the most or saving the most $$.

The religion of millionaires
A new study found that more than two-thirds of the world's millionaires are affiliated with a religion, with more than half identified as Christians.

The study, from the nonpartisan wealth research firm New World Wealth, found that of the 13.1 million millionaires in the world, 7.4 million, or 56.2 percent, identify themselves as Christian when asked about their religion. Fully 6.5 percent of millionaires identified themselves as Muslim, 3.9 percent identified themselves as Hindu and 1.7 percent identified themselves as Jewish.

Fully 31.7 percent of millionaires identified themselves as "other," which includes other religions and "no religion."

Bill Gates, the richest man in the world, recently revealed that his family goes to Catholic Church while also admitting his doubts about God.

“The moral systems of religion, I think, are superimportant. We've raised our kids in a religious way; they've gone to the Catholic church that Melinda goes to and I participate in,” Gates said in an interview with Rolling Stone for the March 27 issue. “I’ve been very lucky, and therefore I owe it to try and reduce the inequity in the world. And that's kind of a religious belief. I mean, it’s at least a moral belief.”

When asked if he believed in God, the 58-year-old billionaire said, “I think it makes sense to believe in God, but exactly what decision in your life you make differently because of it, I don’t know.”
http://www.charismanews.com/us/43155-billionaire-bill-gates-it-makes-sense-to-believe-in-god
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/14/the-religion-of-millionaires-.html

Mingle
01-12-2017, 12:52 AM
But I don't any data comparing average wealth of an atheist vs. a non atheist (and it should be adjusted to include the same level of education). Just because atheists cluster in high income urban areas does not mean they are making the most or saving the most $$.

The religion of millionaires
A new study found that more than two-thirds of the world's millionaires are affiliated with a religion, with more than half identified as Christians.

The study, from the nonpartisan wealth research firm New World Wealth, found that of the 13.1 million millionaires in the world, 7.4 million, or 56.2 percent, identify themselves as Christian when asked about their religion. Fully 6.5 percent of millionaires identified themselves as Muslim, 3.9 percent identified themselves as Hindu and 1.7 percent identified themselves as Jewish.

Fully 31.7 percent of millionaires identified themselves as "other," which includes other religions and "no religion."

Bill Gates, the richest man in the world, recently revealed that his family goes to Catholic Church while also admitting his doubts about God.

“The moral systems of religion, I think, are superimportant. We've raised our kids in a religious way; they've gone to the Catholic church that Melinda goes to and I participate in,” Gates said in an interview with Rolling Stone for the March 27 issue. “I’ve been very lucky, and therefore I owe it to try and reduce the inequity in the world. And that's kind of a religious belief. I mean, it’s at least a moral belief.”

When asked if he believed in God, the 58-year-old billionaire said, “I think it makes sense to believe in God, but exactly what decision in your life you make differently because of it, I don’t know.”
http://www.charismanews.com/us/43155-billionaire-bill-gates-it-makes-sense-to-believe-in-god
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/14/the-religion-of-millionaires-.html

You forgot to factor in that atheists are around only 10% or so of the world's population. Since atheists are such a small minority but are 1/3 of the world's millionaires, that means they are overrepresented in wealth even in your example.

Oneeye
01-12-2017, 01:34 AM
Maybe wealth is a factor of religiosity rather than religion affecting wealth.

Profileid
01-12-2017, 01:40 AM
Maybe wealth is a factor of religiosity rather than religion affecting wealth.

It's a chicken and egg argument if I've ever seen one. This smug troll seems to forget the US is one of the most religious developed countries in the world and well, we're sorta the best.

Oneeye
01-12-2017, 01:46 AM
It's a chicken and egg argument if I've ever seen one. This smug troll seems to forget the US is one of the most religious developed countries in the world and well, we're sorta the best.

http://i.imgur.com/7nA3MBK.gif

Profileid
01-12-2017, 01:49 AM
http://i.imgur.com/7nA3MBK.gif

dude.
I didn't even realize how fortunate I was to be an American until I started talking to all of these people.

Colonel Frank Grimes
01-12-2017, 02:07 AM
It's a chicken and egg argument if I've ever seen one. This smug troll seems to forget the US is one of the most religious developed countries in the world and well, we're sorta the best.

But the poorest areas of the US is in the Bible Belt.

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/26/b7/8c/26b78ca89dbcfeb091c506fb416b3a1e.jpg

Loki
01-12-2017, 02:09 AM
dude.
I didn't even realize how fortunate I was to be an American until I started talking to all of these people.

After Donald Trump won the election, I wished I was American :)

Colonel Frank Grimes
01-12-2017, 02:09 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m_WmabrAvZk/UCFPIwgd6aI/AAAAAAAAAyg/nbpv_Rtg5W8/s1600/bible%2Bbelt.png

Profileid
01-12-2017, 02:24 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m_WmabrAvZk/UCFPIwgd6aI/AAAAAAAAAyg/nbpv_Rtg5W8/s1600/bible%2Bbelt.png

California is suffering from drought and routine huge forest fires worse than anything in the south.
So no.

Colonel Frank Grimes
01-12-2017, 02:33 AM
California is suffering from drought and routine huge forest fires worse than anything in the south.
So no.

California is certainly not God's country. Clearly God is most satisfied with the good people of the north eastern part of the US. Today the weather was pleasant. A reward for our most recent human sacrifices.

Lek
01-16-2017, 12:52 AM
The link works: the more IQ and wealth, the more atheist is a society. I suppose to any rule there has to be an exception and this one is Ireland, but the rule works in general. The poorest countries in Europe are Albania, Moldova, Romania, Turkey..., those countries have the lower IQ too, and without surprises, they are the most religious.

They are not the most religious. They are the poorest countries though. Little investment made and therefor lower education system which leads to lower iqs and more religiousity to cope with poverty maybe. Or atleast a belief in a higher being which doesnt mean being religious.

From my experience, the poorest people were also the ones that had the strongest belief in God even if they werent religious. Its a typical cope mechanism.

I think low IQ is more related to poverty. Religion is more related to brainwashing, ignorance and coping.


In a 2013 meta-analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, of 63 scientific studies about IQ and religiosity, a negative relation between intelligence and religiosity was found in 53, and a positive relation in the remaining ten. Controlling for other factors, they can only confidently show strong negative correlation between intelligence and religiosity among American Protestants.[1] The meta-analysis discussed three possible explanations:

First, intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma.
Second, intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style, which has been shown to undermine religious beliefs.
Third, Intelligent people may have less need for religious beliefs and practices, as some of the functions of religiosity can be given by intelligence instead. Such functions include the presentation of a sense that the world is orderly and predictable, a sense of personal control and self-regulation and a sense of enhancing self esteem and belongingness. Researcher Helmuth Nyborg and Richard Lynn, emeritus professor of psychology at the University of Ulster, compared belief in God and IQs.[3] Using data from a U.S. study of 6,825 adolescents, the authors found that the average IQ of atheists was 6 points higher than the average IQ of non-atheists.

The relationship between countries' belief in a god and average Intelligence Quotient, measured by Lynn, Harvey & Nyborg[3]
The authors also investigated the link between belief in a god and average national IQs 137 countries. (For the purposes of this article, it should be noted that 'belief in a god' does not correlate with 'religiosity'. Some nations have high proportions of people who do not believe in a god, but who may nevertheless be highly religious, following non-theistic belief systems such as Buddhism or Taoism.) The authors reported a correlation of 0.60 between atheism rates and level of intelligence, which was determined to be "highly statistically significant".[3] Of the twelve countries with atheism over 40%, all except two are in the average IQ range of 94 to 100, with only one higher than that range (Japan) and one lower (Cuba). Cuba and Vietnam, (former) communist countries, are anomalies, having a lower average intelligence but a high number of disbelievers, which may be attributed to the communist anti-religious stance. The United States are also an anomaly, with a higher average intelligence but a low number of atheists.

The Lynn et al. study has been criticized by Artificial Intelligence researcher Randy Olson who has noted that the correlation between national religiosity and intelligence is weak. The correlation between wealth and intelligence is stronger and more suited. He notes that many of the countries with lower intelligence scores are less developed and that countries with 20% atheists or more flat line rather than increase in intelligence.[5] When looking at Kanazawa's paper on individual religiosity, or atheism, and intelligence, Olson noted that both the most religious and atheists were all within the bounds of "average intelligence" (90–109) and from a practical point, none are distinguishable from the other.[5]

The Lynn et al. paper has also been criticized by Professor Gordon Lynch, director of the Centre for Religion and Contemporary Society from London's Birkbeck College, who expressed concern that the study failed to take into account a complex range of social, economic and historical factors, each of which has been shown to interact with religion and IQ in different ways.[4]

Gallup surveys, for example, have found that the world's poorest countries are consistently the most religious, perhaps because religion plays a more functional role (helping people cope) in poorer nations.[6]

Even at the scale of the individual, IQ may not directly cause more disbelief in gods. Dr. David Hardman of London Metropolitan University says: "It is very difficult to conduct true experiments that would explicate a causal relationship between IQ and religious belief." He adds that other studies do nevertheless correlate IQ with being willing or able to question beliefs.[4]

Researcher Gregory S. Paul's findings suggest that economic development has a closer relationship with religiosity.[13] He argues that once any "nation's population becomes prosperous and secure, for example through economic security and universal health care, much of the population loses interest in seeking the aid and protection of supernatural entities." Other studies have shown that increased wealth is correlated with a decline in religious beliefs.[14][15] Indeed, the majority of the nations that showed a strong relationship between low religiosity and high IQ in the 2008 study were developed nations.[3]

Ziveth
07-03-2017, 12:56 AM
The link works: the more IQ and wealth, the more atheist is a society. I suppose to any rule there has to be an exception and this one is Ireland, but the rule works in general. The poorest countries in Europe are Albania, Moldova, Romania, Turkey..., those countries have the lower IQ too, and without surprises, they are the most religious.

Yeah, i noticed that too. Also, more wealth = more study a person can do, and more study a person does, more things he/she know (for example about science), the less he believe (not always, but usually yes).

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
07-03-2017, 01:04 AM
no, because the existence of a creator theoretically it is probable, just as probable are other theories like living in a computer simulation,
a mathematical accident, or be the result of an alien experiment, or entities outside this universe.

Reptilian race is also theoretically probable, but it is stupid and irrelevant.

Do you see the consistency of my argument?

A reptillian race is more probable then god. Reptiles at least exist. No diety exist.
And the concept of god is not constistant with its own ideas

Profileid
07-03-2017, 02:10 AM
Whose sock was this anyway?
This guy was one obnoxious fag.

Sekarotuinen
07-03-2017, 08:55 AM
>ITT low IQ non-Finnic untermenschen

Defiance
07-03-2017, 09:23 AM
So it requires a high IQ to believe that all existence began when nothing spontaneously exploded?

Pigling
07-03-2017, 09:24 AM
It's rather that Abrahamic religions are linked to low IQ and being poor. :)

Loki
07-03-2017, 04:59 PM
Believing that superstition is the truth would certainly be hampered by an excess of brain cells.

Tolstoy
03-19-2021, 01:02 PM
I think an atheist is someone that are not satisfied with things that are stated and makes no sense. Then, I'd say that with this kind of mind he/she will be a person who will succeed more in life than others.

Benyzero
03-19-2021, 01:15 PM
There is a lot more poor people who are religious than wealthy ones, thats fact, countries with better economics are usually less religious. Its simple, religion is a conscience of a better life in the afterlife, wealthy people don't really give a shit about that because they are fine in this life.. IQ speaks for itself, high IQ people tend to see the logical side of things.