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11-06-2016, 08:06 PM
according to what she says all known ancestry is yoruk/yoryuk who were not settled outside the country and came back as some other of them did -- so shes legit turkic with a steppe look. im interested in many cultures but dont know much about the yoruks other than basic reading tbh. by the way if there was non turkic root it would be known as people tell it in turkey unless extreme case. plus in her the family is even very traditional and keep their (isolated?) way of speaking turkish -- it says. so dont speculate slavic or circassian ancestry. she doesnt really strike some «south» slavic either to a trained eye. though hungary might be an alternative i could place her.. any ways she is yoruk and identifies as such. thanks for classification.

http://i.hurimg.com/i/hurriyet/90/770x0/56bf02b018c77320dc06a804
http://i.hurimg.com/i/hurriyet/90/770x0/56bf02b018c77320dc06a7fa
http://www.seninle.com.tr/images/roportaj-20150425.jpg
http://i.hurimg.com/i/hurriyet/90/0x0/561580cbf018fb6340d620d6
http://img.gecce.com/2015/03/29/burcu-birici-095546WL.jpg
http://dedikoducu.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/burcu-biricik.jpg
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55dede6de4b0d50447f776cf/56e1541ba3360c1060704b41/56e15433f850822e80bbfc82/1457607738817/ELLE_0316_20343.jpg?format=1000w
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55dede6de4b0d50447f776cf/56e1541ba3360c1060704b41/56e1542fa3360c1060704ba4/1457607748103/ELLE_0316_20216.jpg?format=1000w
http://i.hurimg.com/i/hurriyet/90/770x0/56b7508318c7732488483ef9
http://i.hurimg.com/i/hurriyet/90/770x0/57221f9818c7764108926992
http://dmags.net/reader_files/5448/1.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6tnwqEC5scY/maxresdefault.jpg
http://dugun.ajansred.com/Uploads/Blog/2gzkx5sa0tc1qjifqn3dhso2_IMG_5977-1.jpg

with her husband
http://img.gecce.com/2016/06/10/resimHD-104206CB.jpg
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/935661_365760796878366_488105809_n.jpg?oh=fbb731a5 ba5d61994c3007d588df800a&oe=5890AAD5
http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/8863392/740full-burcu-biricik.jpg
http://www.korayparlak.com/Images/media/works/marie-claire-burcu-biricik-yetkin/koray-parlak-marie-claire-burcu-biricik-yetkin-4.jpg

Turkminator
11-06-2016, 08:14 PM
Subnordid + Turanid.

Yörüks perform an endogames live. You can see clearly her steppes morphology. She looks like a Turkish girl from my hometown.

Proto-Shaman
11-06-2016, 08:17 PM
looks like Brünn/Alpine. But I am not sure.

Incal
11-06-2016, 08:37 PM
Seraglio.

Jinn
11-06-2016, 10:23 PM
very Nordic/Baltid looking

Rethel
11-07-2016, 12:46 AM
Obviously it is Indoeuropeaness-Anatolianess. No doubts. :thumb001:

Shah-Jehan
11-07-2016, 12:46 AM
alpine.

Böri
11-08-2016, 07:06 PM
Features are atypically light for Yörüks but face shape indeed shows Turanid whiffs. Nordid-Alpine mostly

Nilotik
11-08-2016, 07:08 PM
Yörük my ass. I've seen plenty of Euros who look more Yörük than her.

teodor11
11-09-2016, 07:18 PM
look like bosnian/turkic mix

Pahli
11-09-2016, 07:27 PM
East Iranic blood, but more likely to be Balkan Turk I am sure.

Turkminator
11-09-2016, 08:36 PM
East Iranic blood, but more likely to be Balkan Turk I am sure.

Try not to be funny.

Show me a single Indo-Iranian girl with this Turkic look, from this part of the Indo-Iranian region.


Eastern Iranian language is Pashto, with some 50-60 million speakers between the Hindu Kush mountains in Afghanistan and the Indus River in Pakistan.

Pahli
11-09-2016, 09:28 PM
Try not to be funny.

Show me a single Indo-Iranian girl with this Turkic look, from this part of the Indo-Iranian region.

Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan were inhabited by East Iranics and were then assimilated by Oghuz tribes around 1000 years ago.

Look up Tajiks, they can look similar.

Nilotik
11-09-2016, 09:32 PM
Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan were inhabited by East Iranics and were then assimilated by Oghuz tribes around 1000 years ago.

Look up Tajiks, they can look similar.

True but Uzbeks are not Oghuz but Karluks. Just saying.

Turkminator
11-09-2016, 09:36 PM
Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan were inhabited by East Iranics and were then assimilated by Oghuz tribes around 1000 years ago.

Look up Tajiks, they can look similar.

Even the pure forms of Iranian peoples in Pakistan and Afghanistan do not produce such phenotypes. For this I know hundreds, thousands, if not million of Turkic people who have such bright hair and eye color.

So we assimilated all bright Iranians and left the dark Iranians for you?

Pahli
11-09-2016, 10:04 PM
Even the pure forms of Iranian peoples in Pakistan and Afghanistan do not produce such phenotypes. For this I know hundreds, thousands, if not million of Turkic people who have such bright hair and eye color.

So we assimilated all bright Iranians and left the dark Iranians for you?

Sure, there's a few million Turkic people with light traits, specifically those that are assimilated Finno-Ugrics, but you forgot that Azeris are assimilated Turkics too but they aren't the lightest people and quite similar to Kurds.

There's no "pure" form of Iranian people, they are diverse just like Turkic people are in terms of East Eurasian admixture.

Babak
11-09-2016, 10:19 PM
looks turkish. azerbaijani turks look similiar to her

meisje
11-09-2016, 10:38 PM
Sure, there's a few million Turkic people with light traits, specifically those that are assimilated Finno-Ugrics, but you forgot that Azeris are assimilated Turkics too but they aren't the lightest people and quite similar to Kurds.

There's no "pure" form of Iranian people, they are diverse just like Turkic people are in terms of East Eurasian admixture.

You are fake sandnigger compared to the Tajiks and Afghans, You have nothing to do with them, All Turkics and Afghans-Tajiks are much more Northern Shifted than Iranians and Kurds

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l87nGSIYTP-h7m-VKjB-BZcuEoWdz765nU4f_krOdd4/edit#gid=0

NE Euro

Uzbek 14%
Uyghur 12%
Tajik Yunusbayev 17%
Turk Aydın 14%
Turk Istanbul 11%
Turk Behar 9%
Turkmen 10%
Nogai Yunusbayev 19%
Kazakh 14%
Krygyz 11%
Pashtun 11%
Kurd 5%
Iranian Behar 4%

Afghan Pashtun Oracle

Population
Amerindian 1.10%
Ancestral_Altaic 5.13%
South_Central_Asian 35.61%
Arctic 0.13%
South_Indian 15.88%
Australoid -
Austronesian -
Caucasian 20.99%
Archaic_Human 0.06%
East_African 0.72%
East_Siberian 0.43%
European_Early_Farmers 2.30%
Khoisan 0.10%
Melano_Polynesian -
Archaic_African -
Near_East 3.13%
North_African 2.29%
Paleo_Siberian 0.65%
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic 1.67%
European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.82%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pushtun ( ) 1.47
2 Pashtun_Afghani ( ) 6.33
3 Tajik_Pomiri_Ishkashim ( ) 9.58
4 Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) 10.81
5 Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( ) 11.07
6 Uzbek_Afghan ( ) 12.39
7 Pakistani_Pushtun ( ) 12.82
8 Tajik_Afghan ( ) 12.93
9 Parsi ( ) 14.22
10 Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) 17.33
11 Pathan ( ) 17.82
12 Jatt_Pahari ( ) 23.77
13 Burusho ( ) 24.5
14 Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) 24.65
15 Jatt_Haryana ( ) 24.84
16 Mumbai_Jew ( ) 24.99
17 Punjabi_Gujjar ( ) 25.98
18 Iranian ( ) 27.55
19 Cochin_Jew ( ) 27.85
20 Makrani ( ) 28.22

Babak
11-09-2016, 10:39 PM
You are fake sandnigger compared to the Tajiks and Afghans, You have nothing to do with them, All Turkics and Afghans-Tajiks are much more Northern Shifted than Iranians

and Kurds

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l87nGSIYTP-h7m-VKjB-BZcuEoWdz765nU4f_krOdd4/edit#gid=0

NE Euro

Uzbek 14%
Uyghur 12%
Tajik Yunusbayev 17%
Turk Aydın 14%
Turk Istanbul 11%
Turk Behar 9%
Turkmen 10%
Nogai Yunusbayev 19%
Kazakh 14%
Krygyz 11%
Pashtun 11%
Kurd 5%
Iranian Behar 4%

Afghan Pashtun Oracle

Population
Amerindian 1.10%
Ancestral_Altaic 5.13%
South_Central_Asian 35.61%
Arctic 0.13%
South_Indian 15.88%
Australoid -
Austronesian -
Caucasian 20.99%
Archaic_Human 0.06%
East_African 0.72%
East_Siberian 0.43%
European_Early_Farmers 2.30%
Khoisan 0.10%
Melano_Polynesian -
Archaic_African -
Near_East 3.13%
North_African 2.29%
Paleo_Siberian 0.65%
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic 1.67%
European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.82%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pushtun ( ) 1.47
2 Pashtun_Afghani ( ) 6.33
3 Tajik_Pomiri_Ishkashim ( ) 9.58
4 Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) 10.81
5 Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( ) 11.07
6 Uzbek_Afghan ( ) 12.39
7 Pakistani_Pushtun ( ) 12.82
8 Tajik_Afghan ( ) 12.93
9 Parsi ( ) 14.22
10 Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) 17.33
11 Pathan ( ) 17.82
12 Jatt_Pahari ( ) 23.77
13 Burusho ( ) 24.5
14 Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) 24.65
15 Jatt_Haryana ( ) 24.84
16 Mumbai_Jew ( ) 24.99
17 Punjabi_Gujjar ( ) 25.98
18 Iranian ( ) 27.55
19 Cochin_Jew ( ) 27.85
20 Makrani ( ) 28.22

yea dude. iranians are just persianized/kurdified assyrians/mesopotamians

RN97
11-09-2016, 10:42 PM
north pontid + minor turanid.

Hudayar
10-06-2017, 11:01 AM
Yörük my ass. I've seen plenty of Euros who look more Yörük than her.


To be honest she looks like a mix of this Turkmen guy and a light Greek.
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BCTTEG/turkmen-man-in-turkmenabat-or-charjou-turkmenistan-BCTTEG.jpg

Böri
10-06-2017, 11:10 AM
Greeks aren't light or can't produce light people unless they are mixed with Bulgarians (Turko-Slavs) or plain Slavs.
Greeks are a tanned East Mediterranean people.

Hudayar
10-06-2017, 11:11 AM
Greeks aren't light or can't produce light people unless they are mixed with Bulgarians (Turko-Slavs) or plain Slavs.
Greeks are a tanned East Mediterranean people.

hence i said light greek

Gangrel
10-06-2017, 11:12 AM
doesnt look yoruk

Hudayar
10-06-2017, 11:14 AM
doesnt look yoruk

yeah very atypical. she looks finnish in some photos.

Odin
10-06-2017, 03:17 PM
North Pontid.

Crimson Winds
09-03-2018, 09:34 PM
I found her early teenage picture in instagram which displays significant east eurasian characteristics.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BeXo4yQBR-z/

CommonSense
09-03-2018, 09:50 PM
Nordid-Turanid mix. Oh, and Turkmen/Central Asian Turks aren't light at all. None of these steppe-Turkic ethnicities are since they are clearly mixed with Iranic people:

https://iwpr.net/sites/default/files/styles/story_focal_590/public/migrate/turkmen_students.jpg?itok=w9amXXOb

The light skin color of some Turks comes from native Black sea people and Balkan immigrants.

Hadouken
09-03-2018, 09:52 PM
Nordid-Turanid mix. Oh, and Turkmen/Central Asian Turks aren't light at all. None of these steppe-Turkic ethnicities are since they are clearly mixed with Iranic people:

https://iwpr.net/sites/default/files/styles/story_focal_590/public/migrate/turkmen_students.jpg?itok=w9amXXOb

The light skin color of some Turks comes from native Black sea people and Balkan immigrants.

iranic people are dark ? are we really that dark ? nah

CommonSense
09-03-2018, 09:56 PM
iranic people are dark ? are we really that dark ? nah

East-Iranic people, with whom the Turkics got mixed with definitely are. Almost none of them have a pale tone like this actress, but for some reason many Turks like to believe Turkmen are some steppe Aryan gods.

indo-uralopean
09-03-2018, 11:01 PM
I found her early teenage picture in instagram which displays significant east eurasian characteristics.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BeXo4yQBR-z/

She looks chinese there.

indo-uralopean
09-03-2018, 11:06 PM
Nordid-Turanid mix. Oh, and Turkmen/Central Asian Turks aren't light at all. None of these steppe-Turkic ethnicities are since they are clearly mixed with Iranic people:

https://iwpr.net/sites/default/files/styles/story_focal_590/public/migrate/turkmen_students.jpg?itok=w9amXXOb

The light skin color of some Turks comes from native Black sea people and Balkan immigrants.

Turkmen/Uzbeks heavily mixed with Iranians. Not representative of what Oguzzz Turks looked like 1000+ years ago.

indo-uralopean
09-03-2018, 11:07 PM
Double post.

Mingle
09-03-2018, 11:30 PM
East-Iranic people, with whom the Turkics got mixed with definitely are. Almost none of them have a pale tone like this actress, but for some reason many Turks like to believe Turkmen are some steppe Aryan gods.

Why would you think that East Iranics from Transoxiana were dark? The Scythians were East Iranics from Transoxiana and their genetics show them to be much more European shifted than any modern Iranic by a country mile. Obviously, the Bactrians/Khwarezmians/Sogdians were not gonna be as European-shifted as the Scythians, but considering the geography, they should definitely be lighter than modern day Iranics. By the way, the Khanate of Khiva imported about 30k Persian slaves. Considering the population was lower back then, this may have had somewhat of an impact. There were also bound to have been many more Persians and other Iranics that settled in Transoxiana considering that the region was fully colonized by Persians and part of their empires and not to mention that a considerable portion of Persians & Arabs settled in Transoxiana via trade (but of course most of their Iranic blood is East Iranic).

CommonSense
09-03-2018, 11:33 PM
Why would you think that East Iranics from Transoxiana were dark? The Scythians were East Iranics from Transoxiana and their genetics show them to be much more European shifted than any modern Iranic by a country mile. Obviously, the Bactrians/Khwarezmians/Sogdians were not gonna be as European-shifted as the Scythians, but considering the geography, they should definitely be lighter than modern day Iranics. By the way, the Khanate of Khiva imported about 30k Persian slaves. Considering the population was lower back then, this may have had somewhat of an impact. There were also bound to have been many more Persians and other Iranics that settled in Transoxiana considering that the region was fully colonized by Persians and part of their empires and not to mention that a considerable portion of Persians & Arabs settled in Transoxiana via trade (but of course most of their Iranic blood is East Iranic).

I wasn't aware that the East Iranics of antiquity were more European shifted than their present day counterparts. What caused the genetic change among the populations? And if they weren't 'dark', how do you account for the pigmentation of the Turkmen?

Mingle
09-03-2018, 11:45 PM
I wasn't aware that the East Iranics of antiquity were more European shifted than their present day counterparts. What caused the genetic change among the populations? And if they weren't 'dark', how do you account for the pigmentation of the Turkmen?

Keep in mind that Bactrians/Khwarezmians/Sogdians lived further north/west than most modern day East Iranics do. Modern East Iranics have extra South Asian admixture which makes them darker. Pashtunistan (inc. Eastern Afghanistan) was Indian (Gandhari) during the beginning of the AD era.

They could have gotten darker from mixing with Persians, Arabs, and East Iranics. The extinct East Iranic ethnic groups were probably darker than the invading Turks, but not than Persians or Arabs.

Btw, I would say that the original Oghuzes were probably darker than most modern day Anatolian Turks.

CommonSense
09-03-2018, 11:47 PM
Keep in mind that Bactrians/Khwarezmians/Sogdians lived further north/west than most modern day East Iranics do. Modern East Iranics have extra South Asian admixture which makes them darker. Pashtunistan (inc. Eastern Afghanistan) was Indian (Gandhari) during the beginning of the AD era.

They could have gotten darker from mixing with Persians, Arabs, and East Iranics. The extinct East Iranic ethnic groups were probably darker than the invading Turks, but not than Persians or Arabs.

Btw, I would say that the original Oghuzes were darker than modern day Anatolian Turks.

That's the point I was trying to make originally. Some turanists are conviced the Oghuz were ultra-pale, blonde turanid people, while in reality they were already heavily mixed. The Iranid element present in the phenotype of many Turks didn't come from assimilated Kurds, it came from the Oghuz Turkmen.

Marmara
09-03-2018, 11:54 PM
Yörüks aren't pure, they are mixed with Anatolians like rest of Turks, they only retain slightly more Turkic ancestry.

Her look is normal for a Yörük. Yörüks can look very diverse. Light pigmentation is not rare among Yörüks at all, in fact it could be more frequent.

Iranid phenotype is coming from native Anatolians, more spesifically Eastern parts, but it occurs very rarely.

aherne
09-04-2018, 09:18 AM
Aryan (Corded) + Turanid. Could pass as Volga Tatar...

Rgvgjhvv
09-04-2018, 03:54 PM
She has no Turanid at all. Really annoyed when people claim every single person of Turkic descent is Turanid. Ridiculous, use your eyes people.

Jana
09-04-2018, 03:56 PM
NordoCM, looks Western European.

Jana
09-04-2018, 03:57 PM
Turkmen/Uzbeks heavily mixed with Iranians. Not representative of what Oguzzz Turks looked like 1000+ years ago.

Original Iranics Were Lighter than original Turks, that is for sure.

Proto-Shaman
09-06-2018, 12:17 AM
Obviously it is Indoeuropeaness-Anatolianess. No doubts. :thumb001:

lol, no wonder this guy is banned.

İrle
09-06-2018, 12:22 AM
Her phenotype is common among Yörük villages in Muğla province. She is from there too.

archangel
09-07-2018, 08:31 AM
she has this steppe look imho not surprised her being Yörük

aherne
09-07-2018, 08:44 AM
she has this steppe look imho not surprised her being YörükShe definitely could have passed as Scythian, especially one from east where Turanid admixture was not uncommon. Looks something like 80-90% Corded, 10-20% Turanid

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archangel
09-07-2018, 09:50 AM
She definitely could have passed as Scythian, especially one from east where Turanid admixture was not uncommon. Looks something like 80-90% Corded, 10-20% Turanid

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Agreed my friend

Pribislav
09-07-2018, 11:36 AM
Looks like Volga Tatar, Mari or Udmurt.

archangel
03-10-2019, 11:30 AM
can also pass as Crimean Tatar too

leonj
03-10-2019, 11:31 AM
looks Baltic + Mediterranean

Aileron
03-31-2020, 10:10 PM
I came across this thread while being a Yörük myself lol.
I think she is Nordid/Baltid with some Turanid kinda similar to me
She is not typical off course but her type sometimes occurs among us

Demis
04-16-2021, 12:04 PM
(Corded) Nordid and Upper Paleolithic CM (Brunn variety) mix; Trønder, in my opinion.

Hektor12
04-16-2021, 12:13 PM
(Corded) Nordid and Upper Paleolithic CM (Brunn variety) mix; Trønder, in my opinion.

Very nordic, especially eyes.

http://img.gazetevatan.com/vatanmediafile/Haber598x362/2020/11/14/burcu-biricik-ten-carpici-aciklamalar-cok-kufur--4789920.Jpeg

Demis
04-16-2021, 01:03 PM
Very nordic, especially eyes.

http://img.gazetevatan.com/vatanmediafile/Haber598x362/2020/11/14/burcu-biricik-ten-carpici-aciklamalar-cok-kufur--4789920.Jpeg
She is not Turanid influenced if that's what you're trying to say. Small eyes are not just Mongloid traits, and in this case, it is rather a WHG trait. A lot of Nordics have these eyes; it's quite common for them. Whoever thinks she is a depigmented Yoruk is either a Troll or a mental case, lol.

Pater Patota
03-24-2022, 04:56 PM
Balto-Uralic.Could be Slavo-Kipchak/Tatar.