Trump is willing to help the kurdish people

[crazyladybutterfly]

he see them as effective warriors deserving more american aid to fight terrorism

https://twitter.com/mutludc/status/796370775095840768

This is going to turn seriously bad for Isis and AlQaeda.

I can hear them crying :

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[crazyladybutterfly]

bump

[crazyladybutterfly]

Before being elected he already talked about his simpathy for the kurdish people (i wonder if he knows that many of them are muslims?)


“And that would be a possibility,” he added. “I’m a big fan of the Kurdish forces. At the same time, I think we have a potentially – we could have a potentially very successful relations with Turkey. And it would be really wonderful if we could put them somehow both together.”


But it's only because he knows that they're fighting terrorists. He doesn't seem to have a great knowledge about recent history :



Trump also expressed sympathy for the former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein recently, arguing that while he might have been a “bad guy” he at least “killed terrorists.” He also lamented the fact that people “went crazy” when Hussein threw around “a little gas.”

That was a clear reference to Hussein’s use of poison gas during the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980’s and on the Kurds throughout the Anfal campaign of the same decade. During that campaign Hussein’s regime killed at least 180,000 Kurds, which included the infamous killing of 5,000 with chemical bombs in Halabja in 1988.

and this :


In a September 2015 radio interview with Hugh Hewitt Trump confused the Kurds for the Quds Force, the extraterritorial branch of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps, after Hewitt asked him what he thought of that branches leader, Qassem Soleimani.

Not knowing who Soleimani was Trump asked for elaboration and then mistook ‘Quds’ for ‘Kurds’, adding that he sympathized with the Kurds who he said “have been horribly mistreated.”

http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/22072016

I wonder why someone who decided to run for the president of one of the most important country on earth didnt think about learning some history books (and how he didnt know about such events and functions while he is quite old and alive and adult at the time of such events. But anyway it's better than Hillary, I presume, I would have prefered Bernie but it could have been worse lol

[meisje]

These so called Kurdish people(YPG) make ethnic cleansing in Northern Syria and displace Arabs and Turkmens form their Lands

https://www.google.com.tr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiB7P6khZzQAhVnlVQKHcNqDMcQFggkMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voanews.com%2Fa%2Fsyrian-kurds-accused-of-human-rights-abuses-against-arabs%2F3003693.html&usg=AFQjCNE31DzuYAre5VXpv_49alMMSXnq7A

Kurdish forces in northern Syria, one of the few armed groups in the multilayered civil war trusted by the U.S.-led coalition to battle Islamic State extremists, are said to have carried out forced displacement of Arabs and Turkmen and mass house demolitions of villages in territory they have captured.

Amnesty International said the Popular Protection Units, the YPG, an offshoot of Turkey’s outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party, the PKK, razed entire villages captured from Islamic State forces in retaliation either for perceived sympathies with the jihadist group or as punishment for past grievances and old land disputes.

[crazyladybutterfly]

He is at least VERY determined to destroy them and doesn't really fear death


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REiZ5GMyJP0

[Pahli]

These so called Kurdish people(YPG) make ethnic cleansing in Northern Syria and displace Arabs and Turkmens form their Lands

https://www.google.com.tr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiB7P6khZzQAhVnlVQKHcNqDMcQFggkMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voanews.com%2Fa%2Fsyrian-kurds-accused-of-human-rights-abuses-against-arabs%2F3003693.html&usg=AFQjCNE31DzuYAre5VXpv_49alMMSXnq7A

Keep crying, you Turks are the last to talk about ethnic cleansing subhuman, 5 million people over 100 years ago, you shameless cunt, now don't make me laugh harder than I already did :lol:

[crazyladybutterfly]

These so called Kurdish people(YPG) make ethnic cleansing in Northern Syria and displace Arabs and Turkmens form their Lands

https://www.google.com.tr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiB7P6khZzQAhVnlVQKHcNqDMcQFggkMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voanews.com%2Fa%2Fsyrian-kurds-accused-of-human-rights-abuses-against-arabs%2F3003693.html&usg=AFQjCNE31DzuYAre5VXpv_49alMMSXnq7A

Kurdish forces in northern Syria, one of the few armed groups in the multilayered civil war trusted by the U.S.-led coalition to battle Islamic State extremists, are said to have carried out forced displacement of Arabs and Turkmen and mass house demolitions of villages in territory they have captured.

Amnesty International said the Popular Protection Units, the YPG, an offshoot of Turkey’s outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party, the PKK, razed entire villages captured from Islamic State forces in retaliation either for perceived sympathies with the jihadist group or as punishment for past grievances and old land disputes.

and I am NOT claiming they 're saints. What they did is bad? sure. But.. are there any truly "good factions" here? Honestly I don't think so . It's all about choosing the lesser evil.

[meisje]

Keep crying, you Turks are the last to talk about ethnic cleansing subhuman, 5 million people over 100 years ago, you shameless cunt, now don't make me laugh harder than I already did :lol:

This piece of shit Pussy Internet Warrior has a big mouth behind his computer, Do you suck Turkish dicks everyday for your big mouth, You Brown Subhuman

[crazyladybutterfly]

Keep crying, you Turks are the last to talk about ethnic cleansing subhuman, 5 million people over 100 years ago, you shameless cunt, now don't make me laugh harder than I already did :lol:

well this one is recent.... the fault of turks is not recognizing what they grandgrandparents did (well kurds participated in the armenian genocide too but they at least recognized it) it's much less bad than destroying nowadays non-kurdish villages exploiting the current situation.

this said I keep appreciating the kurdish efforts and success in fighting islamic terrorists but they shouldnt do somethings they do (recruiting kids under 15 or making attacks ar turkish politic and military bases)

[Pahli]

This piece of shit Pussy Internet Warrior has a big mouth behind his computer, Do you suck Turkish dicks everyday for your big mouth, You Brown Subhuman

So do you, whats the matter? Are you going to threaten me again you little ugly midget? :laugh:


well this one is recent.

The state of Turkey has killed more people anyway plus I am fairly sure some of those people that were killed were ISIS supporters.

[meisje]

and I am NOT claiming they 're saints. What they did is bad? sure. But.. are there any truly "good factions" here? Honestly I don't think so . It's all about choosing the lesser evil.

Isıs is just an excuse for everyone, Assad-Russia-Shia Militants-Kurds, All of them have their agenda behind walls, Turkey do not let a Kurdish State in his borders

[meisje]

So do you, whats the matter? Are you going to threaten me again you little ugly midget? :laugh:



The state of Turkey has killed more people anyway plus I am fairly sure some of those people that were killed were ISIS supporters.

Write your address and wait for me together with your whore Mom if You have some courage, Pussy Internet Warrior

[Halgurd]

Write your address and wait for me together with your Mom if You have some courage, Pussy Internet Warrior

How about you write your address?

[crazyladybutterfly]

So do you, whats the matter? Are you going to threaten me again you little ugly midget? :laugh:



The state of Turkey has killed more people anyway plus I am fairly sure some of those people that were killed were ISIS supporters.

if Turkey is now a "isis supporter" why did he send troops to fight in mosul/nearby Mosul ? Obviously Erdogan doesnt want kurds to gain more territory BUT if he was allied with is he wouldnt attack them

[Ice]

Trust me, Kurds were better off with Hillary.

[crazyladybutterfly]

Isıs is just an excuse for everyone, Assad-Russia-Shia Militants-Kurds, All of them have their agenda behind walls, Turkey do not let a Kurdish State in his borders

sure, they're all exploiting the current situation, I have already admitted this but this islamic terrorist cancer must be removed as soon as possible

[crazyladybutterfly]

Trust me, Kurds were better off with Hillary.

I wondered this , since Trump will get America closer to Russia .. the outcomes of his presidency in the middle east will be quite interesting

[crazyladybutterfly]

anyway :

http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/091120161

Kurdish officials congratulate Trump, hope for greater engagement with US, hope that he will increase US support for the Kurdish people and Peshmerga fighters.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw0O4NaXcAEnd35.jpg

Safeen Dizayee, spokesman of the Kurdistan Regional Government, tweeted that he looked forward to continued partnership with the United States under Trump.


Falah Mustafa, head of the KRG’s Department of Foreign Relations, also congratulated the man who will become America’s 45th president.

“I congratulate the people of the United States of America on a successful election and President-elect Donald Trump on his victory,” said Mustafa.

[crazyladybutterfly]

Basically anyone is begging for American support :

http://www.albawaba.com/loop/middle-east-leaders-react-trump-902684

It is not clear how American-Turkish relations will be under Trump, given the tensions that emerged between the two countries over Syria, and particularly the role of Kurds in the fighting. Trump has previously said in an interview when asked about the Kurdish question: “Well, it would be ideal if we could get them all together. And that would be a possibility. But I’m a big fan of the Kurdish forces. At the same time, I think we have a potentially — we could have a potentially very successful relationship with Turkey. And it would be really wonderful if we could put them somehow both together.”



Hope that he will somehow help alleviate the tension between kurds and turks, though I dont know how much positive I can be.

[crazyladybutterfly]

https://sputniknews.com/world/201611091047242637-us-syria-pyd-trump/

US Syria Policy Unlikely to Change After Trump Victory - PYD Kurdish Party

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/world/201611091047242637-us-syria-pyd-trump/


Ahead of the election, Trump has said that the United States should stop trying to get rid of Syrian President Bashar Assad and should instead start looking for a diplomatic solution jointly with Russia.


Maybe the kurds would gain a small territory where to create their own small independent state, or maybe nothing. If Trump mantains his promises they would at least receive more weapons etc.

What is obvous is that the Trump presidency doesn't seem good to either the FSA ( which I don't really despise but I think their goal is too risky to achieve) and the Islamic terrorists.

[Halgurd]

https://sputniknews.com/world/201611091047242637-us-syria-pyd-trump/

US Syria Policy Unlikely to Change After Trump Victory - PYD Kurdish Party

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/world/201611091047242637-us-syria-pyd-trump/



Maybe the kurds would gain a small territory where to create their own small independent state, or maybe nothing. If Trump mantains his promises they would at least receive more weapons etc.

What is obvous is that the Trump presidency doesn't seem good to either the FSA ( which I don't really despise but I think their goal is too risky to achieve) and the Islamic terrorists.

An independent state is the only thing Kurds want. Nothing more nothing less.

[crazyladybutterfly]

An independent state is the only thing Kurds want. Nothing more nothing less.

and I think it's their right but , IF the accusations of kicking out other ethnicities from their homes are true, I can't fully agree with them.

[Halgurd]

and I think it's their right but , IF the accusations of kicking out other ethnicities from their homes are true, I can't fully agree with them.

That is just propaganda. If this really happened then why are there thousands of non Kurds in the ranks of YPG? It would mean that the Arabs themselves are kicking Arabs out of their homes. After all Manbij was liberated by a primarily Arab force and the Khabour river was defended by a primarily Assyrian force. If it is true why are there millions of Assyrian and Arab IDPs in the Kurdistan region? They have other options but they specifically choose to go to Kurdistan.

[meisje]

sure, they're all exploiting the current situation, I have already admitted this but this islamic terrorist cancer must be removed as soon as possible

You are right about İsis,Unfortunately Turkey ignored İsis for a long time and it gave advantages to Kurds

[al-Bosni]

America has already been helping them. It's the same old. A coalition of dozens of countries are fighting ISIS for 2+ years now. Just like around 60 countries fought the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and it backfired. What ever happens, fighting Islamic terrorists has been described as a Whac-A-Mole game by the US government. You hit one and two more pop up multiplying.

[crazyladybutterfly]

A coalition of dozens of countries are fighting ISIS for 2+ years now. Just like around 60 countries fought the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and it backfired. What ever happens, fighting Islamic terrorists has been described as a Whac-A-Mole game by the US government. You hit one and two more pop up multiplying.

this comment + signature = cia raiding at your home
joking :D

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Trump's Presidency will be great for those that are sick of the corruption and are anti-war. He is a Populist, Isolationist (at least relatively) candidate.

Typical Conservatives who are angered with the Obama-Clinton doctrine can also expect some great changes in the country, now that there is a R President, R House and R Senate. The last time they had that was 1928. Conservatives can finally make the policies they always wanted to. Trump falls in line with Conservatism very well, I don't know why people say he is more liberal (perhaps personally, but if you look at his SCOTUS and VP picks, and he said Pence will be the most powerful VP in history, judging by that, he is just as socially conservative as anyone).

This is a man that is socially, economically and domestically an all-around Conservative. With regards to foreign affairs he is perhaps more of an Isolationist, but he wants to rebuild the Military so that we can have a strong defense, and he will knock out ISIS (his plan for ISIS is lightyears ahead of Clinton's). He will reverse the disastrous Iran Deal, probably. He will stop making America weaker and our enemies stronger. The Neoconservative part of the GOP was probably the hardest to grab, for him. I think ultimately, those people that just want America to be wherever whenever, probably those kinds of people are going to have the toughest time with a Trump presidency, because like I said, other than on foreign affairs, he falls in line very well with Conservative orthodoxy.

Some also think he is against Free Trade but he is not, he wants Free Trade but he wants FAIR TRADE. Many Republicans feel this way. I do think that Trade and Foreign Affairs were the two issues that separated him the most from Conservative orthodoxy, but ultimately the party base still wanted him. Those Republicans in the establishment will find themselves agreeing with him on most things, anyway. I'm sure he can re-arrange those Trade deals, as well. I really don't doubt it - I think it will all go smoothly and we really will be able to witness all of these policies, that will strengthen America. Obviously I am very concerned about his Socioconservatism, but in the Economic area especially, this is what America needs.

[barkoo]

Before being elected he already talked about his simpathy for the kurdish people (i wonder if he knows that many of them are muslims?)



But it's only because he knows that they're fighting terrorists. He doesn't seem to have a great knowledge about recent history :



and this :



http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/22072016

I wonder why someone who decided to run for the president of one of the most important country on earth didnt think about learning some history books (and how he didnt know about such events and functions while he is quite old and alive and adult at the time of such events. But anyway it's better than Hillary, I presume, I would have prefered Bernie but it could have been worse lol

Right, the main Democrats failure is they didn't take Bernie as their representative imo.
He really got chances to win on the top of that, again Clinton's race for power turned against their own camp and Obamas'.
Btw, he knows very well what Hussein did to Kurds, but Politic isn't black or white but a compromise of a general interest, often called the third way (cf.DeGaulle) and indeed, we saw what happened next in Irak.
The same goes for Hassad and ISIS.

[N1019]

Look, Trump will soon be brought up to speed on the true nature of the situation and I'm sure his off the cuff remarks will be replaced with something more carefully considered.

I shouldn't be expecting anything too amazing in the Middle East. Maybe a Free Kurdistan is on the agenda anyway.