Classify Albanian actor

[Ushtari]

James Belushi

Im not so into races and stuff, you have any idea?

http://i.imgur.com/hRInTde.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q3aP09K.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/82xM2HF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WNb9M2R.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/n7hueRf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iCp4OUZ.jpg

[Foxy]

I guess alpine, maybe with some dinaric...
He could pass also for Italian.

"According to Jim"...What a mythe !

[Ushtari]

I guess alpine, maybe with some dinaric...
He could pass also for Italian.

"According to Jim"...What a mythe !

Yeah, he look very italian according to many that i have asked.

[Guapo]

Isn't he half Albinoian

[Ushtari]

Isn't he half Albinoian

"Jim Belushi was born in Chicago, Illinois, the son of Agnes (née Samaras, 1922-1989[1]), who was of Albanian descent and worked as a goat farmer,[citation needed] and Adam Belushi (1918-1996[2]), an Albanian immigrant and restaurant operator who left his native village, Qyteza,"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Belushi

[San Galgano]

I think he could fit in many european countries. From Albania to Ireland.

[Neanderthal]

Wow, I thought he was Italian...
Alpine of Carpathid for sure.

[Aviane]

Wow, I thought he was Italian...
Alpine of Carpathid for sure.

Me too I thought almost exactly the same when I first saw him.

Dinarid + Alpinid/Carapathid.

[Agrippa]

Dinaro-Alpinoid for the most part.
His brother was somewhat more Alpinoid and pyknomorphic than him.

[safinator]

Alpinid + Norid

[EvilDave]

Alpinid

[bluesky]

dinarid + alpinid

[Geronimo]

I also thought he is of italian descent, anyway K-9 was a great movie :thumb001:

http://elitegermanshepherds.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/k-9-free-tf_org-1989.12190827_std.jpg

Dinarid-Alpinid

[Toretto]

This guy is very funny :D ... i think he can pass many european country norid alpine

[Twistedmind]

Alpinoid and Dinaric. Nothing Norid in him. Could pass in lot places, but in Ireland, lol.

[Toretto]

Alpinoid and Dinaric. Nothing Norid in him. Could pass in lot places, but in Ireland, lol.

imho the pigmentation is not dinaric or alpine...

[Scholarios]

http://www.flickchart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/John-Belushi-Animal-House-001.jpg

Now classify his brother.

[Ushtari]

http://www.flickchart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/John-Belushi-Animal-House-001.jpg

Now classify his brother.


Dinaro-Alpinoid for the most part.
His brother was somewhat more Alpinoid and pyknomorphic than him.

[Twistedmind]

imho the pigmentation is not dinaric or alpine...
Hm, it is not especially light skin tone, nor light hair, just blue eyes. Besides, Noric =/= Depigmented Dinarid. There are verry light Dinarids. Noric is mixture of Nordic and Dinarid phenotypes.

[iNird]

All i see are alpinoid assimilated turks

:laugh:

[safinator]

When he was young http://www.sentieriselvaggi.it/public/articoli/45679/Gallery/john_belushi_1.jpg

[Kalitas]

He looks more Borreby/Dinarid than Alpinid/Dinarid IMO (though Alpinid/Norid could be also a good approach)

[Drawing-slim]

All i see are alpinoid assimilated turks

:laugh:Anyone knows why iNird was baned!?

[Hayalet]

Anyone knows why iNird was baned!?
It was on his own request.

[Hess]

Alpine with a small Dinaric input

[dralos]

dinaro/borreby with atlantid influences

[Amun]

alpine/dinarid

[Scholarios]

Not to make this an ethnocentric thread, but the Belushi family (who were Orthodox) were almost certainly half Greek (mother's name "Samaras") or Vlach.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQJmN5wDO3o

But actually.. he was just American ;)

[ChocolateFace]

^^^ He wasn't Greek

[ChocolateFace]

Jim is Dinaric/Borreby/North Pontid

[ChocolateFace]

His brother James was Alpinoid/Dinaric

[Scholarios]

^^^ He wasn't Greek

The current brother identifies as Albanian, that's for sure. But I believe the mother (Agnes Demetri Samaras) was Greek. Belushi in school used to tell people he was "half Greek, half Italian".


James Adam "Jim" Belushi

(born June 15, 1954) is an American actor, comedian, singer, and musician. He is the younger brother of late comedic actor John Belushi.

Early life
Belushi was born in Chicago. He is the son of Agnes (née Samaras), who was of Greek- Albanian descent, and Adam Belushi (1918–1996), an Albanian immigrant and restaurant operator who left his native village, Qytezë, in 1934 at the age of sixteen. Jim was raised in a Chicago suburb, along with his three siblings: older brother John, his sister, Marian, and a younger brother, Billy. After graduating from Wheaton Central High School, Jim Belushi attended the College of DuPage and graduated from Southern Illinois University Carbondale with a degree in Speech and Theater Arts.

[ChocolateFace]

The current brother identifies as Albanian, that's for sure. But I believe the mother (Agnes Demetri Samaras) was Greek. Belushi in school used to tell people he was "half Greek, half Italian".

A lot of people identify as other thing's because of the ignorance and lack of knowledge of others. There are some American Gypsy's who identify as Italian for example.

"Entertainer James Belushi, nicknamed Jim, was born on June 15, 1954 in Chicago, but was raised about 25 miles west, in the outlying suburb of Wheaton, Illinois. His father, Adam, is an Albanian immigrant, and his mother, Agnes, is the daughter of Albanian immigrants."

http://www.biography.com/people/james-belushi-20851499

[Scholarios]

A lot of people identify as other thing's because of the ignorance and lack of knowledge of others. There are some American Gypsy's who identify as Italian for example.

"Entertainer James Belushi, nicknamed Jim, was born on June 15, 1954 in Chicago, but was raised about 25 miles west, in the outlying suburb of Wheaton, Illinois. His father, Adam, is an Albanian immigrant, and his mother, Agnes, is the daughter of Albanian immigrants."

http://www.biography.com/people/james-belushi-20851499

Well, the confusion applies both ways. All the surviving Belushi brother knows is that his family is from Albania. His mother's name is almost certainly Greek. There were many Greek immigrants from Albanian in the 20th century to the U.S. At that time in the U.S. it was perfectly natural for an Albanian Orthodox man to marry a Greek Orthodox woman.

We can even search for her father entering U.S. from Albania. U.S. keeps public records of immigrants to U.S. that entered through during 1890-1955 online. We can search it. She was born 1922 but her parents were immigrants from Albania. If we enter birth year 1900- give or take 7 years we can find Thomas Samaras (the only Samaras arriving to U.S. from Albania at this time. the others all came from Greece)

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passRecord.asp?LNM=SAMARAS&PLNM=SAMARAS&CGD=M&bSYR=1893&bEYR=1907&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&TOWN=null&SHIP=null&RF=36&pID=100332020999&MID=05488241030881091136&

We can even do advanced search. There is no ethnic Albanians arriving in USA with the surname Samaras from 1910-1920. Actually, I can't find an ethnic Albanian with that surname there in all of U.S. immigration history. Plenty of Albanians arriving, just not with that surname. So far only Samaras from Albania arriving in U.S. were ethnic Greeks.


The travel manifest lists his home as Sinitsa Albania and his ethnicity as "Greece, Greek". This was in the early 20th Century when the immigration officer usually just listed ethnicity as whatever country you came from. So it seems to me more than likely she was Greek from Albania.

It's almost perfect timing. He arrived in 1920 and she was born in 1922. They were Greeks from Albania (her family, not her husband who was entirely Albanian)

You can search here. All ethnic Greeks from Greece, Albania, or "Turkey"

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?MID=05488241030881091136&LNM=SAMARAS&PLNM=SAMARAS&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&RF=289&kind=exact&offset=75&dwpdone=1

[ChocolateFace]

Well, the confusion applies both ways. All the surviving Belushi brother knows is that his family is from Albania. His mother's name is almost certainly Greek. There were many Greek immigrants from Albanian in the 20th century to the U.S. At that time in the U.S. it was perfectly natural for an Albanian Orthodox man to marry a Greek Orthodox woman.

We can even search for her father entering U.S. from Albania. She was born 1922 but her parents were immigrants from Albania. If we enter birth year 1900- give or take 7 years we can find Thomas Samaras (the only Samaras arriving to U.S. from Albania at this time. the others all came from Greece)

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passRecord.asp?LNM=SAMARAS&PLNM=SAMARAS&CGD=M&bSYR=1893&bEYR=1907&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&TOWN=null&SHIP=null&RF=36&pID=100332020999&MID=05488241030881091136&


The travel manifest lists his home as Sinitsa Albania and his ethnicity as "Greece, Greek". This was in the early 20th Century when the immigration officer usually just listed ethnicity as whatever country you came from. So it seems to me more than likely she was Greek from Albania.

It's almost perfect timing. He arrived in 1920 and she was born in 1922. They were Greeks from Albania (her family, not her husband who was entirely Albanian)

All of this is speculation and if you ask Jim if he was Greek he will probably say no. He also never said he was Greek to the media. If his mother was half Greek I'm sure he would know.

It is said that his mother is the daughter of Albanian immigrants. Not the daughter of Albanian and Greek parents from Albania. If he had "
substantial Greek blood" I wouldn't know and neither would you.

It is more acceptable to say he was not Greek then to say he was part Greek based of what we know.

[Scholarios]

All of this is speculation and if you ask Jim if he was Greek he will probably say no. He also never said he was Greek to the media. If his mother was half Greek I'm sure he would know.

It is said that his mother is the daughter of Albanian immigrants. Not the daughter of Albanian and Greek parents from Albania. If he had "
substantial Greek blood" I wouldn't know and neither would you.

It is more acceptable to say he was not Greek then to say he was part Greek based of what we know.

Since this is a "racial classification thread" in an ethnocentric forum, it's relevant. Jim obviously is a typical 3rd generation American... he knows very little about himself and his been baptized by the Albanian lobby. John was more clever and of course the real talent in the family.

All this proves is Albanians and Greeks 100 years ago didn't care about these lobbies. The brothers are surely a product of Albano-Greek love.

edit: I'm not interested in Hellenzing South Albania or some Vorio Epirus stuff. I think Greek presence there is overstated by nationalists. But Belushis were clearly half-Greek and I think it influenced them.

[ChocolateFace]

Since this is a "racial classification thread" in an ethnocentric forum, it's relevant. Jim obviously is a typical 3rd generation American... he knows very little about himself and his been baptized by the Albanian lobby. John was more clever and of course the real talent in the family.

All this proves is Albanians and Greeks 100 years ago didn't care about these lobbies. The brothers are surely a product of Albano-Greek love.

This doesn't prove anything. It's just your speculation like I said.

Real documentation proves things.

[Scholarios]

This doesn't prove anything. It's just your speculation like I said.

Real documentation proves things.

like Passenger reports from U.S. immigration I posted? It's not speculation. It's more hard-data than wikipedia and imdb links that you post (anyone can edit them). His maternal grandparents were ethnic Greeks from Sinitsa Albania. His father was ethnic Albanian (and he looks it)

Here are all the Demetri Samaras that ever entered USA from Greece, Albania, or Turkey.

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?MID=05488241030881091136&LNM=SAMARAS&PLNM=SAMARAS&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&RF=289&kind=exact&offset=50&dwpdone=1

[ChocolateFace]

like Passenger reports from U.S. immigration I posted? It's not speculation. It's more hard-data than wikipedia and imdb links that you post (anyone can edit them). His maternal grandparents were ethnic Greeks from Sinitsa Albania. His father was ethnic Albanian (and he looks it)

I didn't post any wikipedia link's. I believe you did earlier. Many people used to identify by religion and because of the Orthodox religion he was probably listed as Greek.

[Scholarios]

I didn't post any wikipedia link's. I believe you did earlier. Many people used to identify by religion and because of the Orthodox religion he was probably listed as Greek.

imdb is just a copy-paste from wikipedia. U.S. government didn't follow Ottoman millet nationalities system. They asked where you are from and checked your ship manifest, then you declare your name and nationality, birth year. They didn't ask "are you Catholic of Muslim" something like that in New York City immigration.

Now maybe you can argue that his great great grandparents were Hellenized by Orthodox Church or something...

[ChocolateFace]

imdb is just a copy-paste from wikipedia. U.S. government didn't follow Ottoman millet nationalities system. They asked where you are from and checked your ship manifest, then you declare your name and nationality, birth year. They didn't ask "are you Catholic of Muslim" something like that in New York City immigration.

Now maybe you can argue that his great great grandparents were Hellenized by Orthodox Church or something...

My point was that people were identified by religion.This still occurs today.

The whole nation of Greece is basically a nation based off of the Orthodox religion with many of ethnic groups all unifying under the Greek Orthodox Church.

[Ushtari]

if going by names a not so informed guy would think all kosovo albanians born in 50's where Turks.


Belushi is obviously albanian.

[Scholarios]

if going by names a not so informed guy would think all kosovo albanians born in 50's where Turks.


Belushi is obviously albanian.

except of course, we are not going only by names. But whatever. I guess Greek Arvanites gotta accept their Albanianess from 600 years ago, but we can't settle on the likely possibility that this guys mom was a Greek from Albania. (as all documentation seems to point to)

[ChocolateFace]

except of course, we are not going only by names. But whatever. I guess Greek Arvanites gotta accept their Albanianess from 600 years ago, but we can't settle on the likely possibility that this guys mom was a Greek from Albania. (as all documentation seems to point to)

Its a different ball game. Arvanites know anout their lineage. One of the Belushi brothers could have said they were Greek. Plus not everybody was documentized while entering the u.s. There are people i cant find who i have info of

[Scholarios]

Its a different ball game. Arvanites know anout their lineage. One of the Belushi brothers could have said they were Greek. Plus not everybody was documentized while entering the u.s. There are people i cant find who i have info of

Wow, the internet is amazing these days. Here is her father's naturalization papers: Demetri Georgi Samaras with his children, Anastia (Agnes), Olympia, Ella, George, Thomas,

http://www.sccjis.co.summit.oh.us/naturalization/IMGCD07/IMG43459.pdf

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XGVS8zFAgNk/UbLCXy-w7OI/AAAAAAAAAd0/rOiYZTqveaE/s640/samaras.jpg

So there you have a Greek, from Albania, declaring his country as GREECE to U.S. Naturalization process. This is Belushi's grandfather on his mother's side. (actually, i can't find evidence that they were even Greeks from Albania, but rather Greeks-proper)

and his grandparent's statement of intent to U.S.

http://www.sccjis.co.summit.oh.us/naturalization/IMGCD06/IMG35156.pdf

[Skerdilaid]

Why you dudes are getting all bend backwards regarding dudes mother?

In Balkans only your Paternal lineage matters.

[Scholarios]

Why you dudes are getting all bend backwards regarding dudes mother?

In Balkans only your Paternal lineage matters.

Well, it's a racial classification thread.

And in Balkans, mother matters. In a Trilingual village, the language your mother speaks to you is the primary language.

[Ushtari]

so you are going by name?

if we were discussing history 300years ago such documents would have been relevant. but this is a recent story where they identify as albanians.


kosoalbs who very often have turkish names (40+ people) often said they were from 'yugoslavia'

[Skerdilaid]

Well, it's a racial classification thread.

And in Balkans, mother matters. In a Trilingual village, the language your mother speaks to you is the primary language.

That's not true at all. Look at intermarriages in ex Yugo, in all cases kids do not even speak the language of the mother.

[ChocolateFace]

Wow, the internet is amazing these days. Here is her father's naturalization papers: Demetri Georgi Samaras with his children, Anastia (Agnes), Olympia, Ella, George, Thomas,

http://www.sccjis.co.summit.oh.us/naturalization/IMGCD07/IMG43459.pdf

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XGVS8zFAgNk/UbLCXy-w7OI/AAAAAAAAAd0/rOiYZTqveaE/s640/samaras.jpg

So there you have a Greek, from Albania, declaring his country as GREECE to U.S. Naturalization process. This is Belushi's grandfather on his mother's side. (actually, i can't find evidence that they were even Greeks from Albania, but rather Greeks-proper)

and his grandparent's statement of intent to U.S.

http://www.sccjis.co.summit.oh.us/naturalization/IMGCD06/IMG35156.pdf

These documents just reinforce your previous documents, while I still have the same arguments against the previous documents.

[Scholarios]

That's not true at all. Look at intermarriages in ex Yugo, in all cases kids do not even speak the language of the mother.

That's modern stuff from bizarro land of ex-yugo. If there is a community of Albanians, and they got Hellenized education, it's going to be superficial, at least for a generation or two. Go to work and church and use Greek, come home and speak Albanian. Dad is gone at work and abroad speaking with Greeks, mom is at home using her ancestral tongue. Scolding you in Albanian. When Greek church Hellenized Albanians, the mothers still spoke Albanian to the kids in Himare 200 years ago. Now they speak Greek at home. But men went away on the ships to Corfu and Preveza and came back speaking Greek.

Maternal language is natural, at least when you are living in Southern Albania. Case was same for Arvanites... (but there was more intermixing to justify it)

[Scholarios]

These documents just reinforce your previous documents, while I still have the same arguments against the previous documents.

i.e. you have no argument. you got the guy's signature there saying he was a "subject of Greece". The family were mixed... not uncommon at all.

Another Greco-Albanian son of immigrants who worked in a diner:

http://www.biography.com/people/george-tenet-244622

[ChocolateFace]

i.e. you have no argument. you got the guy's signature there saying he was a "subject of Greece". The family were mixed... not uncommon at all.

Another Greco-Albanian son of immigrants who worked in a diner:

http://www.biography.com/people/george-tenet-244622

I do have an argument with the identification of being "Greek"

Edit: A lot of people would identify as being "Greek" like I said.

And the Belushi's were one of the first Albanians in the U.S, and it is known that many of the first Albanian American immigrants actually came from Greece.

[Pleurat]

James Belushi is albanian 100% And his surname is of ancient northern albanian heritage.


I think this guy is a perfect example of a Alpin/Borreby mix but with a dinarid input.


Nordis look different. They are sometimes just depigmented dinarids or a mix between dinarid and nor did, it depends.

Albanian norids:


http://www.nw-news.de/_em_daten/_nw/2009/07/10/090710_1108_barisha.jpg


http://tmw-foto.tccstatic.com/storage/album/thumb1/a3a4340e8153362b153d157ba421fe6f-99527-1354488127.jpeg



http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/dritte-liga/1001/Bilder/bekim-kastrati-dynamo-541.jpg



http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3d/cb/be/z12503869Q.jpg



http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/0XiX04_D3t4/hqdefault.jpg ( rather Norid/ Nordid)


http://www.gazetaexpress.com/repository/images/large/8e832262576b2589ed3479f13bb5feee_thumb_large.JPG



http://www.knninfo.com/repository/images/07_G_pol-Shala_pranohet_ambasador_ne_Japoni..jpg




http://www.lajmifundit.al/lajme/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/nard-ndoka.jpg

[Scholarios]

ames Belushi is albanian 100%

Proven already that his descent is 50% Greek. But if you want to be like Greeks who deny Arvanites, please be my guest in world of stupidity.

[Scholarios]

I do have an argument with the identification of being "Greek"

Edit: A lot of people would identify as being "Greek" like I said.

And the Belushi's were one of the first Albanians in the U.S, and it is known that many of the first Albanian American immigrants actually came from Greece.

I didn't know that first Albanians came from Greece.. I thought most came from "Vorio Epirus" area. His mother had a Greek surname and his citizenship papers said ethnicity :Greece, Greek. His father was 100% Albanian though and he identifies as Albanian and not Greek. So that's fine. But for truth's sake, like Arvanites, we should be clear about this.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XGVS8zFAgNk/UbLCXy-w7OI/AAAAAAAAAd0/rOiYZTqveaE/s640/samaras.jpg

[Guapo]

Proven already that his descent is 50% Greek. But if you want to be like Greeks who deny Arvanites, please be my guest in world of stupidity.

His brother John Belushi always played a greek in comedy skits

http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/Round-up_-_actors_who_have_died_young/john_belushi_1732450.jpg

[Scholarios]

His brother John Belushi always played a greek in comedy skits

That's correct. He did, but I always take it as circumstantial evidence. His family did own a Greek diner in Chicago though. I do think his dad was Albanian though.

[Guapo]

That's correct. He did, but I always take it as circumstantial evidence. His family did own a Greek diner in Chicago though. I do think his dad was Albanian though.

the best lol


http://youtu.be/gQJmN5wDO3o

[Pleurat]

Please show evidences:



Belushi was born in Chicago. His father was an Albanian immigrant from Qytezë and his mother was the daughter of Albanian immigrants.[2] Jim was raised in a Chicago suburb, along with his three siblings: older brother John, his sister, Marian, and a younger brother, Billy.[3][4][5][6] After graduating from Wheaton Central High School, Jim Belushi attended the College of DuPage and graduated from Southern Illinois University Carbondale with a degree in Speech and Theater Arts.

[Scholarios]

How many evidence you need? I just posted his maternal grandfather's US citizenship papers that list him as a Greek from Greece with Greek surname and taking an oath under information. Meanwhile you quotes only Wikipedia.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XGVS8zFAgNk/UbLCXy-w7OI/AAAAAAAAAd0/rOiYZTqveaE/s640/samaras.jpg

[KrashNick]

I didn't know that first Albanians came from Greece.. I thought most came from "Vorio Epirus" area. His mother had a Greek surname and his citizenship papers said ethnicity :Greece, Greek. His father was 100% Albanian though and he identifies as Albanian and not Greek. So that's fine. But for truth's sake, like Arvanites, we should be clear about this.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XGVS8zFAgNk/UbLCXy-w7OI/AAAAAAAAAd0/rOiYZTqveaE/s640/samaras.jpg

Why do you want to make him Greek when he said that I am Albanian , if he was a Greek he will admit it . The same did even Robert De Niro .

[Pleurat]

Maybe he was 25%, it is acceptable, but his mother wasn't fully greek.

[Pleurat]

The problem is that this man has NEVER mentioned his greek side, not evan in one debate, show, or advertisement.

[Scholarios]

Krash Nick: I have no interest in changing his identity ( Jim says he's Albanian many times)


But for the sake of honesty, he was half- ethnic Greek. It's exactly my stance on Arvanites btw. So I'm just being consistent.

[Scholarios]

Maybe he was 25%, it is acceptable, but his mother wasn't fully greek.


Could be. I have only evidence of his grandfather.

[Ushtari]

If the guy claim he is Albanian i dont see any reason to think otherwise. I mean, he must have known his own parents who in turn must have known their parents.. you dont suddenly change ethnicity lol.

[Scholarios]

Arvanites say they're Greek, so why so many people doubt them?

Purity is not an ideal anyways.

[Ushtari]

Arvanites say they're Greek, so why so many people doubt them?

Purity is not an ideal anyways.
i doubt they do, and if they do i think they do it in the same way Belushi claim he is American.

[Scholarios]

Ushtari- I like you, but doubting the Arvanites national feeling sorta makes you lose credibility on this one.

In fact, other than Skenderbeg's ghost visiting you in a dream and telling you Belushi was half-Greek, I'm not sure much would actually change your mind ( if his grandparent's naturalization forms, signed under no duress declaring him a Greek didnt raise any doubts)

[Ushtari]

if we were talking about his ancestors from 19th century, then such documents would be more valid, but we are talking about his grandparents. We all know our grandparents, they belong to the same epoch as we do so if belushis grandparent(s) were greek they would most likely tell him that and thus his greek side would be known. But thats not the case, iv only heard belushi claim he is Albanian and in recent years he has been aknowledning/emracing his albanian ancestry officially(TV ads, visiting the country etc).



there is a chance he is lying to us ofc or is trying to hide his "real" ancestry or even unfamiliar about it, but i doubt it.

[Scholarios]

if we were talking about his ancestors from 19th century, then such documents would be more valid, but we are talking about his grandparents. We all know our grandparents, they belong to the same epoch as we do so if belushis grandparent(s) were greek they would most likely tell him that and thus his greek side would be known. But thats not the case, iv only heard belushi claim he is Albanian and in recent years he has been aknowledning/emracing his albanian ancestry officially(TV ads, visiting the country etc).



there is a chance he is lying to us ofc or is trying to hide his "real" ancestry or even unfamiliar about it, but i doubt it.

See... what you got here is pure circumstantial evidence. I provided only concrete evidence (which has not really been addressed with success so far). It ignores the dozens of reasons he could not claim his Greek ancestry openly. (though I do think John's SNL skits and commentary are nods to Greek ancestry, but that's also circumstantial).

He could have a. not known about his greek side...doubtful, but possible considering his mom was born in the U.S. this would also be likely if his mom was also half-Albanian and not full Greek. b. He could have grown up around Albanians and not Greeks. c. He could choose to ignore his Greek side and emphasize his Albanian side due to strong upbringing from his father. d. He could just be plain old ignorant- especially if his mother was a Greek from Albania (like Americans often are, sadly). These are all guesses and we can never know exactly for sure, nor can we go and do some ancestry test on the Belushis or whatever. All we have is the information we have. His father was an Orthodox Albanian immigrant with an Albanian surname. His Mother was a 2nd generation midwesterner whose father immigrated from Greece, claimed he was Greek, was Orthodox and had a Greek surname. John had an affinity for Greek culture, Jim claims a strong Albanian identity and never once claimed to be part Greek. It looks to me like he's a proud Albanian American with a Greek background he just doesnt aknowledge . What's so bad with that?

[turish]

Maybe Belushis's mothers has indeed Greek roots but whats more important is that they identify as Albanian.
I think marriages during those times between greek and albanians were not so rare especially among the orthodox faith in the south.

[Scholarios]

Maybe Belushis's mothers has indeed Greek roots but whats more important is that they identify as Albanian.
I think marriages during those times between greek and albanians were not so rare especially among the orthodox faith in the south.

you are correct sir on all counts. off to a good start :thumb001:

[Ianus]

Alpine+Dinarid

[Kalimtari]

he could be half-Greek, why not, but his face has something unmistakably Albanian in it.

[Eliades]

He's in the Tupac movie "Gang Related"! lol, but I classify him as Alpino-Med with Dinarid.

[Midori]

Dinaricised Borreby.

[BalkanianEastMed]

Jimi Belishi's mother was Greek woman from both of her parents she was not Albanian at all. Some mixed people identify with both cultures or feel closer more to one of their parent's culture.
Greeks when they arrived in USA and all these Anglo countries of the New World sadly were not favorited but as Greeks we know that we feel safer and more connected when we connect with each other so it would be imaginary impossible for a Greek immigrant man especially to marry a WASP woman so Jimi's maternal Greek grandfather married a Greek girl from the community he pursued the elder matchmakers, they brought him pics of girls and he chose. Jimi's mother was Greek and his father was an Albanian Eastern Orthodox so obviously he grew up with mostly Albanians cause back then especially his mothers family would have obviously disown her so he was no related to Greeks at all.
Rita Wilson's father was a Bulgarian Muslim and Rita's Orthodox Christian Greek mother was of Pontian, Thracian, Epirots and GREEK Arvanite heritage yet Rita feels more connected with her Greek side. She has mentioned her father's heritage and she has praised his memory multiple times but she just feels more Greek. The famous Hollywood movie The Terminal who's one of my most favorites may be inspired by the real story of a Middle Eastern visitor who stuck in Paris airport and not in JFK New York but the kind character of Viktor Navorski is mostly based on Rita's Bulgarian father and in the movie you can hear Bulgarian too. Rita herself can speak both Bulgarian and Greek. She never denied her Bulgarian side she praises her father equally with her mother wherever she has the chance she just feels more connected with Greeks maybe because later in life she met her maternal grandparents and grew up mostly with her mother's family.


Speaking for nowadays I see Greek women married with both Albanian men and Bulgarian men everywhere I don't think origin is an issue but mostly how they treat to your daughter. As a father of daughters I wouldn't like them to be mistreated I'd have to take drastic actions against the low life freak and no offense Albanian families are not a good option for anyone