Most likely haplogroup of Abraham?

[oblivion]

Most likely haplogroup of Abraham? If let's say we knew for sure he existed and came from present day Ur, Iraq, what haplogroup would he likely have belonged to? We know that Arabians and Jews mostly fall in the J1.147 snp haplogroup so I would imagine Abraham was likely j1c3 (J1-p58)... or maybe even J1.147

[Ülev]

R1etheloids, b type


https://youtu.be/g6AIc0eYUS8






(jk)

[Rethel]

Obviously J1. There is no more accurate candidate.

Surely not E.

[Rethel]

https://youtu.be/g6AIc0eYUS8


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[Oneeye]

R1/b/tards

[Rethel]

R1/b/tards

Isaaks = Saxes = Dick claims they are I1 :laugh:

As one polish I1 once have been said: Vikings from Hayfa :laugh:

[oblivion]

Guys please be serious..what snp of J1?

[Kamal900]

Hey oblivion, it's really been a while. While the existence of Abraham and other historical figures from the bible most likely are mythological, he would most likely belong to the J1e haplogroup or the E haplogroup that is commonly found among the Egyptians, East Africans, the people of the red sea and etc.

[oblivion]

Hey oblivion, it's really been a while. While the existence of Abraham and other historical figures from the bible most likely are mythological, he would most likely belong to the J1e haplogroup or the E haplogroup that is commonly found among the Egyptians, East Africans, the people of the red sea and etc.

Do you think he would be j1-p58 or j1.147 like the modern day jews and arabs>?

[LoLeL]

Fairy tale characters do not have haplogroup. Don't waste your time.

[Kamal900]

Do you think he would be j1-p58 or j1.147 like the modern day jews and arabs>?

Abraham is considered to be the father of Jews and Arabs in biblical and Quranic traditions, so it's very likely that he belongs to the J1-P58, yes.

[LoLeL]

:lol00002: Just lol :lol00002:

[oblivion]

Fairy tale characters do not have haplogroup. Don't waste your time.

It is a hypothetical question..plus you cannot prove he did not exist..

[Rethel]

Fairy tale characters do not have haplogroup. Don't waste your time.

And how can you be sure, that it is a fairy tale's character?
Did you have some revelation, or you know all bediuns who
lived 4000 +/- 300 years ago? Where did you get that news?

[oblivion]

I am asking because my father's line is the grandfather of all arabs and jews so that is why im thinking that if Abraham did exist..it's very possible that we share the same paternal line.

[Karlangas]

J1

[Poise n Pen]

prob G or I2 if he existed since he was sumerian

[Karlangas]

I1 I think

[Rethel]

prob G or I2 if he existed since he was sumerian

:picard2:


I1 I think

:picard2:

[meisje]

Haplotardism ,LEL

[LoLeL]

It is a hypothetical question..plus you cannot prove he did not exist..

And how can you be sure, that it is a fairy tale's character?
Did you have some revelation, or you know all bediuns who
lived 2000 +/- 300 years ago? Where did you get that news?

OK mates. If Abraham and his haplogroup xD is really interesting for you, then I don't derail this read. I just read your posts. :thumb001:

[oblivion]

bump

[Governor]

For me he is J1 but what about J2, is there any possibility for J2?

[Rethel]

For me he is J1 but what about J2, is there any possibility for J2?

No, becasue he was closer related to Mesopotamians and Arabs, plus CMH is definitly J1.

[YashiroNanakase]

prob G or I2 if he existed since he was sumerian

:picard2:

[oblivion]

What about E1b1b1c?

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Abraham was E M123

[Kamal900]

What about E1b1b1c?

Copts are genetically the closest to Arabians(Northern Arabians), Southern Levantines(Palestinians and Jordanians) and middle easterners in general than to Berbers and other North Africans, so there is a possibility that he may have belonged to such haplogroup.

[Rethel]

What about E1b1b1c?

He cant be, becasue:

1. E was a hg of Ham, but Abraham was a relative to Shemites, so obviously, he cant me E.
2. He was a chaldean from Sumeria (which has today 81% of J1)
3. he was eventually from northern Mesopotamia - present day turkey.

[Rethel]

Copts are genetically the closest to Arabians(Northern Arabians), Southern Levantines(Palestinians and Jordanians) and middle easterners in general than to Berbers and other North Africans, so there is a possibility that he may have belonged to such haplogroup.

Hwen you will be Mulatto and you merry a
black african woman, it will make you and
your children close to Nigerians, but it has
nothing to do with real ancestry.

[Petalpusher]

R1a

[Rethel]

R1a

Do you belive in British israelism? http://emotikona.pl/emotikony/pic/035.gif

[Petalpusher]

Do you belive in British israelism? http://emotikona.pl/emotikony/pic/035.gif

He could be anything, but i guess realistically at this time, E or J.

[Root]

J2.

[Rethel]

He could be anything, but i guess realistically at this time, E or J.

He has his pedigree.
He cannot be anything.

Fictional one - of course can be abything.

The normal one - not.

He definitly cannot be E and R, and any african of far asian hg.

But especially E and R, becasue his pedigree excluded these two precisly.

[Petalpusher]

He has his pedigree.
He cannot be anything.

Fictional one - of course can be abything.

The normal one - not.

He definitly cannot be E and R, and any african of far asian hg.

But especially E and R, becasue his pedigree excluded these two precisly.

There s plenty of E and R in what is today mesopotamia, majority is J though.

[Rethel]

There s plenty of E and R in what is today mesopotamia, majority is J though.

Ok, but the Abraham which is known to us,
was a Shemite, so he cannot be E or R,
becasue the same text exclude them both
verbaly and directly. Can you understand
such simple fact? Only a fictional Abraham,
if you imagine him, can be E or R, but we
are talking about concretic Abraham, which
is known to us from the same source which
exclude these two guys hidden ynder letters
E and R. It is so hard to you to get it?

[Petalpusher]

Ok, but the Abraham which is known to us,
was a Shemite, so he cannot be E or R,
becasue the same text exclude them both
verbaly and directly. Can you understand
such simple fact? Only a fictional Abraham,
if you imagine him, can be E or R, but we
are talking about concretic Abraham, which
is known to us from the same source which
exclude these two guys hidden ynder letters
E and R. It is so hard to you to get it?

Oh yea i forgot, 2000 BC people were filtered at the club entrance, based on their Y-DNA report.

[Rethel]

Oh yea i forgot, 2000 BC people were filtered at the club entrance, based on their Y-DNA report.

2000BC people were not rootless barbarians like you, but they knew their provenance.
Even people in illiterate Africa or Polinesia better know their past than you.

Is it really so hard to read one page in the Book, insteed of talking a bullshit?

[Petalpusher]

2000BC people were not rootless barbarians like you, but they knew their provenance.
Even people in illiterate Africa or Polinesia better know their past than you.

Is it really so hard to read one page in the Book, insteed of talking a bullshit?

2000 BC, right in the Bronze age, all haplo lines had already heavily mixed together, and long way before that anyway, which means you couldn't tell more who was E, J or R (not that it would have been easy before), just like today there s no way anyone can tell say a Syrian is J, E or R. Stick that into in the pinhead that serves you as a brain.

[Rethel]

2000 BC, right in the Bronze age, all haplo lines had already heavily mixed together, and long way before that anyway, which means you couldn't tell more who was E, J or R (not that it would have been easy before), just like today there s no way anyone can tell say a Syrian is J, E or R. Stick that into in the pinhead that serves you as a brain.

I see, talking to you reseaonably is poitless as always.

You are talking about things which you have no idea,
and you even do not what be familier with, but you
allready know, that you know better.

:picard2:

Why all people from nowhere are the same?
It is some kid of psychical disorder?

[Ülev]

R1a

yep, this haplogroup is still in captivity, when others enjoy life, R1a have what they have

[Petalpusher]

I see, talking to you reseaonably is poitless as always.

You are talking about things which you have no idea,
and you even do not what be familier with, but you
allready know, that you know better.

:picard2:

Why all people from nowhere are the same?
It is some kid of psychical disorder?

Everyone knows where he is from, no one needs you stupid hg tribe delirium you fucking imbecile.

[Rethel]

Everyone knows where he is from,

Obviously you don;t. If you would, you would
write like sovietic bastard from orfanage.

But Abraham didn't know according to you,
you know better than he where he was from,
even not reading his story and being familiar
with genealogies which are in the same book.

If this is not imbecilic delirium, then what is?


no one needs you stupid hg tribe delirium you fucking imbecile.

And where I wrote something about
hg in that quote which you made?

Are you relly so illiterate, that you cannot
understand, that it is not about hg per se?

[Svipdag]

Is there a haplogroup for mythological beings ?

[Böri]

j2

[Profileid]

Copts aren't an ethnic group

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

If he were real he could be other haplogroups outside of j1. No one is going to know. This is just a guessing game

However this could be fake too

[Numidia]

E-M(123) probably - one of the proto-semite haplogroup

[Governor]

Possibly, J1, J2, G2a, T, i don't give any chance to other hgs.

[Norka]

Desert wizard. Damn religious people are autistic.

[MINARDOWICZ]

Obviously J1. There is no more accurate candidate.

Surely not E.

I've seen Samaritans with E, so don't count it out.

[MINARDOWICZ]

And what?
Samaritians are mostly non-Israelites at all. :picard2:
They are from Iraq and Syria plus some Kanaanites.

And they are totaly not representative even for
ancient Samaritians, becasue they were something
200 peare 100 years ago, when in I century there
were millions of them.

LOL you are a hilarious person. Have you seen their results? They plot between Palestinians and Syrian Jews. NOT JOKING. Go look into it.