Post examples of non-Greeks who look Greek

[Tooting Carmen]

Even though I maintain that Brits and Greeks have scant overlap, I can still think of a couple of examples:

Cheryl Tweedy, singer
http://ste.india.com/sites/default/files/2014/08/08/239710-cheryl318.jpg

Chris Gascoyne, actor
http://images.radiotimes.com/namedimage/Peter_Barlow_to_return__Coronation_Street_boss_hin ts_at_comeback_for_Chris_Gascoyne.jpg?quality=85&mode=crop&width=620&height=374&404=tv&url=/uploads/images/original/85121.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Dominic Cooper (British)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTU2OTk2NDc1Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTUyNzc4Mg@@._ V1_UY317_CR6,0,214,317_AL_.jpg


Stanislav Ianevski (Bulgarian)

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/22300000/Stanislav-Ianevski-harry-potter-22369741-400-314.jpg


Nancy Pelosi (Italian American)

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1467091/images/o-NANCY-PELOSI-OBAMACARE-facebook.jpg

[catgeorge]

In the mediterannean facade sure everyone looks alike.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Dominic Cooper (British)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTU2OTk2NDc1Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTUyNzc4Mg@@._ V1_UY317_CR6,0,214,317_AL_.jpg




Lol he looks like the user Dylan xD

[Sikeliot]

Pau Gasol (Spanish)

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/996.png&w=350&h=254
http://richestcelebrities.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pau-Gasol-Net-Worth.jpg

[Danaan]

Most of them don't look very Greek.

[Sikeliot]

Most of them don't look very Greek.

Let's see your example, then.

[Queen B]

Cheryl looks foreign
Gascoyne looks kind of exotic, too.

[Sikeliot]

Cheryl looks foreign
Gascoyne looks kind of exotic, too.

Which non-Greek individuals do you think look Greek then? You can post your own examples.

[Queen B]

Which non-Greek individuals do you think look Greek then? You can post your own examples.
I can't go on by memory, I can't browse celebrities and think he can- he can't.
I can judge from what I see, less time-wasting :laugh:

[Dick]

Even though I maintain that Brits and Greeks have scant overlap, I can still think of a couple of examples:


Chris Gascoyne, actor
http://images.radiotimes.com/namedimage/Peter_Barlow_to_return__Coronation_Street_boss_hin ts_at_comeback_for_Chris_Gascoyne.jpg?quality=85&mode=crop&width=620&height=374&404=tv&url=/uploads/images/original/85121.jpg

HIS SURNAME IS FRENCH IN ORIGIN

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Gascoigne

[Sakis]

Only Gascoyne looks kind of Greek.

[Sikeliot]

Someone posted this French in another thread, IMO he passes:


https://www.iledefrance.fr/sites/default/files/medias/2013/05/bruno_solo_cjm_turpin.jpg

http://kpitalrisk.free.fr/images/stars/17000/s_17259bruno_solo_fsd_rg.jpg

http://i.f1g.fr/media/eidos/805x453_crop/2016/05/24/XVMe42d938c-11e3-11e6-a35b-1b0c6d41dfda.jpg

[Sakis]

Someone posted this French in another thread, IMO he passes:

Yes he does

[Danaan]

Let's see your example, then.

How about no?

[Danaan]

The French guy doesn't look Greek either.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/ABOLA2015/NNH/ricardorocha1.jpg

http://grandecirculo.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Ricardo-Rocha.png

http://cdn.record.xl.pt/2011-07/img_770x433$2011_07_12_13_38_00_612859.jpg

Former football player Ricardo Rocha

[Bell Beaker]

http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/ABOLA2015/NNH/ricardorocha1.jpg

http://grandecirculo.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Ricardo-Rocha.png

http://cdn.record.xl.pt/2011-07/img_770x433$2011_07_12_13_38_00_612859.jpg

Former football player Ricardo Rocha

You might be right..... Eyes region is very Greek......

[Sikeliot]

How about no?

No need to be a pompous prick.

[Sikeliot]

http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/ABOLA2015/NNH/ricardorocha1.jpg

http://grandecirculo.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Ricardo-Rocha.png

http://cdn.record.xl.pt/2011-07/img_770x433$2011_07_12_13_38_00_612859.jpg

Former football player Ricardo Rocha


He looks very Iberian but could be Greek too.

[Danaan]

No need to be a pompous prick.

That's you.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Dominic Cooper (British)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTU2OTk2NDc1Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTUyNzc4Mg@@._ V1_UY317_CR6,0,214,317_AL_.jpg


Stanislav Ianevski (Bulgarian)

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/22300000/Stanislav-Ianevski-harry-potter-22369741-400-314.jpg


Nancy Pelosi (Italian American)

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1467091/images/o-NANCY-PELOSI-OBAMACARE-facebook.jpg

Not sure about the second, except of his pigmentation

[Sikeliot]

How about this guy? He is British but people on another site said he'd pass. Also he was mentioned in the southern Italian thread.

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/gandy-5-comp.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/30/4f/c1/304fc1d54443cef5646bea567421926a.jpg
http://www.focusclinics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/david-gandy-300x3001-300x300.jpg

[brennus dux gallorum]

He can as many brits, I have a neighbor who could be Sean connery

[Sikeliot]

He can as many brits, I have a neighbor who could be Sean connery

I definitely do think there is an Atlantid/Western element in many Greeks, even though I do not focus on it much in my posts.

[barkoo]

Mariano di Vaio, Italian model, looks Greek and Italian at the same time.

http://thesnobspot.weebly.com/uploads/3/1/3/8/31384611/9703833.jpg?603

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8VdFB9vwB7w/VK8HJ34p__I/AAAAAAAAAE8/o85EbtNgwf4/s1600/5b0735bfeab9a92fdd3f0a01ebdded2d.jpg

[Sikeliot]

What about Holly Madison?

http://az801229.vo.msecnd.net/wetpaint/2015/06/061215-holly-madison.jpg
http://static.celebuzz.com/uploads/2014/03/22/478580855.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Holly+Madison+Holly+Madison+Celebrates+Sprinkles+m L2pXOpqClYx.jpg

[Sebastianus Rex]

Retarded thread.

And LOL at Paul Gasol given as an example.

[Sikeliot]

Retarded thread.

And LOL at Paul Gasol given as an example.

Then who would you give as examples? I am sick of people criticizing but offering no alternatives.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Seriously, in Greece you can find everything, no matters if some types are predominant

[Bari]

Tarkan(Turkish):

http://www.europopmusic.eu/Images/Turkey_images/Tarkan/tarkan_5.jpg

Ofra Haza(Yemenite jew):

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/46/2f/f5/462ff5426e83ed6264c42821a137349c.jpg

Hafez Nazeri(Iran):

http://online.wsj.com/media/HafezNazeri_E_20091114120256.jpg

[nightrider+]

...

0/3

[Sebastianus Rex]

Then who would you give as examples? I am sick of people criticizing but offering no alternatives.


Seriously, in Greece you can find everything, no matters if some types are predominant

^^There you have the response Sikeliot.

Pau Gasol is Spaniard and Baskid, why would he look Greek above all ? Those clichés don't make much sense, most people can look native in many countries.

[Homie]

Romanian Singer, Antonia Iacobescu

http://daily-movement.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/936full-antonia-iacobescu.jpg

Lebanese male model

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/6e/83/ef/6e83ef4b893e4c66feb078a7536330f5.jpg

British actor, Russel Brand:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01734/Russell_Brand_1734761a.jpg

Italian American, Joe Manganiello:

https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/joe-manganiello-435-40.jpg

Egyptian actor, Omar Sharif:

http://www.trbimg.com/img-559fd672/turbine/la-et-omar-sharif-archives-20150710

[Bari]

0/3

Are you ashamed that many of Your countrymen can pass in the middle-east?;)

[nightrider+]

Are you ashamed that many of Your countrymen can pass in the middle-east?;)

I'm losing sleep over it.

[Sikeliot]

Are you ashamed that many of Your countrymen can pass in the middle-east?;)

Of the three, only Tarkan passes.

[Homie]

Spanish fitness model, Sergi Constance looks Greek:

http://www.melvindia.com/wp-content/gallery/sergi-constance/0002-Sergi_Constance_10_2_.jpg
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/44/10/ec/4410ecec0e64bd177718124c6f718386.jpg

[nightrider+]

Spanish fitness model, Sergi Constance looks Greek:


:icon_lol:

[Sikeliot]

Romanian Singer, Antonia Iacobescu

http://daily-movement.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/936full-antonia-iacobescu.jpg

Lebanese male model

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/6e/83/ef/6e83ef4b893e4c66feb078a7536330f5.jpg

British actor, Russel Brand:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01734/Russell_Brand_1734761a.jpg

Italian American, Joe Manganiello:

https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/joe-manganiello-435-40.jpg

Egyptian actor, Omar Sharif:

http://www.trbimg.com/img-559fd672/turbine/la-et-omar-sharif-archives-20150710


Omar Sharif can probably pass (he can pass as southern Italian too) but the Lebanese guy is way too extreme for anywhere in Europe.

[Tooting Carmen]

Basically, this is what I mean by a Greek look. Of course they vary, but these are the distinct and common types:

Peter Polycarpou
http://peterpolycarpou.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Photo-Nov-17-0-39-55-e1434472199509.jpg

Damian Grammaticas
http://static.bbci.co.uk/news/1.160.11019/img/correspondents/damiangrammaticas.png

Alex Dimitriades
http://media.hollywood.com/images/656x1000/7027705.jpg

Then you have darker, but still common ones like these:

Theo Paphitis
https://d1t6gdblzuqy70.cloudfront.net/content/uploads/2015/01/WEB_CoverStory_TheoPaphitis11.jpg

Stelios Haji-Iannou
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1965578.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Sir-Stelios-Haji-Ioannou.jpg

Although individuals may crossover - as the thread itself indeed demonstrates - by and large I really don't think that Greeks have much overlap with Northern/Central Europe at all.

[Tacitus]

Ex Deo (Canada). Guy in the middle is Italian-Canadian, one other member is of Armenian ancestry (I think the one on the left), and the rest are French-Canadian.

http://i.imgur.com/UV1S9Cp.jpg

Canzoniere Grecanico Salentino (Puglia, Italy)

http://i.imgur.com/q9VMpwE.jpg

Francesco Pianeta (Calabria, Italy)

http://i.imgur.com/ronIz1E.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Ex Deo (Canada). Guy in the middle is Italian-Canadian, one other member is of Armenian ancestry (I think the one on the left), and the rest are French-Canadian.

http://i.imgur.com/UV1S9Cp.jpg

Canzoniere Grecanico Salentino (Puglia, Italy)

http://i.imgur.com/q9VMpwE.jpg

Francesco Pianeta (Calabria, Italy)

http://i.imgur.com/ronIz1E.jpg

Imo Pianeta looks more Serb/Bulgarian than Greek, but I suppose he could blend in as one of the more Balkan-shifted types.

[Albobalboa]

Lebanese male model

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/6e/83/ef/6e83ef4b893e4c66feb078a7536330f5.jpg



If that ain't the "Greekest" look ever in the history of mankind...

[Faklon]

Gasol is Dinaro-med Byzantine offshoot, very atypical for an Iberian.

Most of the other examples look multi-racial.

[Sikeliot]

Although individuals may crossover - as the thread itself indeed demonstrates - by and large I really don't think that Greeks have much overlap with Northern/Central Europe at all.


Well neither do southern Italians, Spanish, etc.

[Sikeliot]

Imo Pianeta looks more Serb/Bulgarian than Greek, but I suppose he could blend in as one of the more Balkan-shifted types.

He looks more Greek to me. Serbian, definitely not.

[Sikeliot]

Stelios Haji-Iannou
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1965578.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Sir-Stelios-Haji-Ioannou.jpg


I've seen some Iberians who look like this ^ Generally Berid.

[Tooting Carmen]

Well neither do southern Italians, Spanish, etc.

Not Southern Italians, but Spaniards (less so Portuguese) have some overlap with NW Europe (although it used to be ludicrously overstated in this forum), while Northern Italians often look Central European, or at least like a Southern-Central European mix in the same vain as the Southern French.

[Sikeliot]

Not Southern Italians, but Spaniards (less so Portuguese) have some overlap with NW Europe (although it used to be ludicrously overstated in this forum), while Northern Italians often look Central European, or at least like a Southern-Central European mix in the same vain as the Southern French.

There are 5 northern Italians in my business program. Of them, only 1 looks distinctly southern European. The others look like they could be southern German.

[Faklon]

Basically, this is what I mean by a Greek look. Of course they vary, but these are the distinct and common types:



Polycarpou looks kinda individually Cypriot.

Grammaticas is common all around, Dimitriades(Pontic surname) is quite there too, maybe with a slight Aegean and Asia Minor deviation.

[Tooting Carmen]

There are 5 northern Italians in my business program. Of them, only 1 looks distinctly southern European. The others look like they could be southern German.

Yes, Northern Italians often resemble Austrians and South Germans, while some Spaniards (though not most by any means) can resemble Atlantid types in Britain and France. By contrast, I don't see any notable overlap between Greece and anywhere north of Romania at all. Hence why for a Northern/Central European to look Greek, such as in my OP examples, is pretty unusual.

[nightrider+]

Polycarpou looks kinda individually Cypriot.

Grammaticas is common all around, Dimitriades(Pontic surname) is quite there too, maybe with a slight Aegean and Asia Minor deviation.

Paphitis and Haji-Ioannou are Cypriots too. It's kind of funny how rarely you see mainland Greeks posted on this forum (excluding Sikeliot's cherrypicking threads) even though they're the most numerous Greeks.

[Sikeliot]

Paphitis and Haji-Ioannou are Cypriots too. It's kind of funny how rarely you see mainland Greeks posted on this forum (excluding Sikeliot's cherrypicking threads) even though they're the most numerous Greeks.


I do not cherrypick my photos. I do, however, post islanders more than other Greeks.

[Tooting Carmen]

Paphitis and Haji-Ioannou are Cypriots too. It's kind of funny how rarely you see mainland Greeks posted on this forum (excluding Sikeliot's cherrypicking threads) even though they're the most numerous Greeks.

I know Cypriots and mainland Greeks look different as groups, but surely the phenotypes are largely the same even though the proportions may differ somewhat.

[Albobalboa]

Paphitis and Haji-Ioannou are Cypriots too. It's kind of funny how rarely you see mainland Greeks posted on this forum (excluding Sikeliot's cherrypicking threads) even though they're the most numerous Greeks.

One for all, all for one. Are you ashamed of your ethnic brethren?

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/F2D67T/athens-greece-16th-sep-2015-a-man-shouts-slogans-to-the-crowd-through-F2D67T.jpg Mainlanders

[Sikeliot]

I know Cypriots and mainland Greeks look different as groups, but surely the phenotypes are largely the same even though the proportions may differ somewhat.

The features differ. Cypriots look pure Levantine most of the time. Greeks look nowhere close.

[Tooting Carmen]

Cypriots look pure Levantine most of the time.

So you think they look closer even to Jordanians than to mainland Greeks???

[Sikeliot]

So you think they look closer even to Jordanians than to mainland Greeks???

No, but to Lebanese, Syrians, Armenians, and probably even Iranians than to Greeks, yes.

I would say people in Sicily look intermediate between Greece and Cyprus, and then Cypriots look pure MENA.

[nightrider+]

I know Cypriots and mainland Greeks look different as groups, but surely the phenotypes are largely the same even though the proportions may differ somewhat.

No they're not. Cypriots are genetically about as close to a Thessalian or Peloponnesian as a Hungarian is and there's not that big of a y-dna overlap either. How can they be? Just because they share religion and language?

[Sikeliot]

No they're not. Cypriots are genetically about as close to a Thessalian or Peloponnesian as a Hungarian and there's not that big of a y-dna overlap either. How can they be? Just because they share religion and language?

Also keep in mind he lives in the UK where most "Greeks" are Cypriot.

[Tooting Carmen]

No they're not. Cypriots are genetically about as close to a Thessalian or Peloponnesian as a Hungarian is and there's not that big of a y-dna overlap either. How can they be? Just because they share religion and language?

Genetically they may differ, but I am saying in terms of phenotypes, would most Cypriots look foreign in Greece itself? Those dark Med and even Anatolian/Levantine-influenced types can be found in Greece as well as Cyprus, just not in the same proportions.

[Homie]

No they're not. Cypriots are genetically about as close to a Thessalian or Peloponnesian as a Hungarian is and there's not that big of a y-dna overlap either. How can they be? Just because they share religion and language?

Both Thessalian and Cypriot are outliers. people like Islanders or Anatolian Greeks have less foreign "Slavic" or "Levantine" incluence than either Thessalian Greeks or Cypriot Greeks.

[nightrider+]

Both Thessalian and Cypriot are outliers. people like Islanders or Anatolian Greeks have less foreign "Slavic" or "Levantine" incluence than either Thessalian Greeks or Cypriot Greeks.

Thessalians are not outliers and they're not even the northernmost Greeks. They differ very little from southern mainlanders.

[Tooting Carmen]

Also keep in mind he lives in the UK where most "Greeks" are Cypriot.

I've met a good number of mainland Greeks here too, and I honestly don't think the difference between them and Cypriots is as enormous as you claim. (The same is also true for Northern and Southern Italians btw - I have visited both Sicily and Veneto within the last 18 months, and while there is definitely a difference, Venetians nevertheless still look closer to Sicilians than to any Germanic group, though a large minority can pass further north too).

[brennus dux gallorum]

I've met a good number of mainland Greeks here too, and I honestly don't think the difference between them and Cypriots is as enormous as you claim. (The same is also true for Northern and Southern Italians btw - I have visited both Sicily and Veneto within the last 18 months, and while there is definitely a difference, Venetians nevertheless still look closer to Sicilians than to any Germanic group, though a large minority can pass further north too).

I agree